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June 7th, 2006, 02:04 AM
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Anyone else notice Office 2007 is slower starting up?
Interesting, ran an Office diagnostic and it says I got 2 versions of
Outlook. Ah come on! Compatibility Diagnostic - Conflicting versions of Outlook found The Compatibility Diagnostic test identified conflicting versions of Microsoft Office Outlook. To remove the version of Outlook from your computer that you do not want, in Control Panel in Microsoft Windows, double-click Add or Remove Programs. Will try your steps next. Thanks for helping by the way! Patrick Schmid wrote: Remove the data file (use the control panel). Then make a new pst, make it the default one. Open Outlook, open the other pst and copy all folders and stuff over. Don't use import, that function has its problems. It seems that Outlook doesn't like your PST at all. Have you run chkdsk already? There might be an error on your hard drive that crashes Outlook when it tries to access the PST. Patrick Schmid -------------- http://pschmid.net "tomax7" wrote in message oups.com: Spoke too soon. I set up the new profile (Tom) and Outlook loaded ok. Then I set up Tom to use the .PST from the default Outlook profile and it went back to the same loop. Error check, Not Responding. tomax7 wrote: Thanks Patrick. That did it. Patrick Schmid wrote: Try creating a new profile and see if Outlook opens then. Patrick Schmid -------------- http://pschmid.net "tomax7" wrote in message ps.com: Outlook will not work. Goes through the error checking/recovery and then sits with a blank screen/box. Click inside and the familiar "Not Responding" shows in the Title Bar. Close it (Red X) and get an error message, then force close, then send error to MS. As for the previous post about Print Preview not showing to "save on space", what bunk. Don't take the personally, but if that is the reason, forget it. I'm actually loosing space with those "nice big icons" than before. Plus the time spent hunting for the particular grouping of what I want. Don't know what is going through Office production heads, but consider this. Office has been in the same toolbar format for say 12 years and people are accustomed to clicking or finding something fast, now all that has changed. Why? This is speeding things up? This new layout is just as stupid as moving the Windows Explorer shortcut icon from Start/Programs to Start/Programs/Accessories in Windows 2000. Why? To keep trainers employed teaching people where to find things now? Ok, I'll buy that because I'm sure I'll get more work now, was getting tired fixing spyware and Windows patches on computers... Roady [MVP] wrote: It really isn't your lucky day, is it? ;-) 
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June 7th, 2006, 02:25 AM
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Anyone else notice Office 2007 is slower starting up?
Well looks like I lost all my emails. Good thing I got them backed up.
Yep, Repaired Outlook via the Add/Remove in the Control Panel because of the crashing and it makes a new .pst file and overwrites the old one on the computer... I am not a happy camper. Patrick Schmid wrote: Remove the data file (use the control panel). Then make a new pst, make it the default one. Open Outlook, open the other pst and copy all folders and stuff over. Don't use import, that function has its problems. It seems that Outlook doesn't like your PST at all. Have you run chkdsk already? There might be an error on your hard drive that crashes Outlook when it tries to access the PST. Patrick Schmid -------------- http://pschmid.net "tomax7" wrote in message oups.com: Spoke too soon. I set up the new profile (Tom) and Outlook loaded ok. Then I set up Tom to use the .PST from the default Outlook profile and it went back to the same loop. Error check, Not Responding. tomax7 wrote: Thanks Patrick. That did it. Patrick Schmid wrote: Try creating a new profile and see if Outlook opens then. Patrick Schmid -------------- http://pschmid.net "tomax7" wrote in message ps.com: Outlook will not work. Goes through the error checking/recovery and then sits with a blank screen/box. Click inside and the familiar "Not Responding" shows in the Title Bar. Close it (Red X) and get an error message, then force close, then send error to MS. As for the previous post about Print Preview not showing to "save on space", what bunk. Don't take the personally, but if that is the reason, forget it. I'm actually loosing space with those "nice big icons" than before. Plus the time spent hunting for the particular grouping of what I want. Don't know what is going through Office production heads, but consider this. Office has been in the same toolbar format for say 12 years and people are accustomed to clicking or finding something fast, now all that has changed. Why? This is speeding things up? This new layout is just as stupid as moving the Windows Explorer shortcut icon from Start/Programs to Start/Programs/Accessories in Windows 2000. Why? To keep trainers employed teaching people where to find things now? Ok, I'll buy that because I'm sure I'll get more work now, was getting tired fixing spyware and Windows patches on computers... Roady [MVP] wrote: It really isn't your lucky day, is it? ;-)
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#43
June 7th, 2006, 02:25 AM
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Anyone else notice Office 2007 is slower starting up?
Well looks like I lost all my emails. Good thing I got them backed up.
Yep, Repaired Outlook via the Add/Remove in the Control Panel because of the crashing and it makes a new .pst file and overwrites the old one on the computer... I am not a happy camper. Patrick Schmid wrote: Remove the data file (use the control panel). Then make a new pst, make it the default one. Open Outlook, open the other pst and copy all folders and stuff over. Don't use import, that function has its problems. It seems that Outlook doesn't like your PST at all. Have you run chkdsk already? There might be an error on your hard drive that crashes Outlook when it tries to access the PST. Patrick Schmid -------------- http://pschmid.net "tomax7" wrote in message oups.com: Spoke too soon. I set up the new profile (Tom) and Outlook loaded ok. Then I set up Tom to use the .PST from the default Outlook profile and it went back to the same loop. Error check, Not Responding. tomax7 wrote: Thanks Patrick. That did it. Patrick Schmid wrote: Try creating a new profile and see if Outlook opens then. Patrick Schmid -------------- http://pschmid.net "tomax7" wrote in message ps.com: Outlook will not work. Goes through the error checking/recovery and then sits with a blank screen/box. Click inside and the familiar "Not Responding" shows in the Title Bar. Close it (Red X) and get an error message, then force close, then send error to MS. As for the previous post about Print Preview not showing to "save on space", what bunk. Don't take the personally, but if that is the reason, forget it. I'm actually loosing space with those "nice big icons" than before. Plus the time spent hunting for the particular grouping of what I want. Don't know what is going through Office production heads, but consider this. Office has been in the same toolbar format for say 12 years and people are accustomed to clicking or finding something fast, now all that has changed. Why? This is speeding things up? This new layout is just as stupid as moving the Windows Explorer shortcut icon from Start/Programs to Start/Programs/Accessories in Windows 2000. Why? To keep trainers employed teaching people where to find things now? Ok, I'll buy that because I'm sure I'll get more work now, was getting tired fixing spyware and Windows patches on computers... Roady [MVP] wrote: It really isn't your lucky day, is it? ;-)
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#44
June 7th, 2006, 02:39 AM
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Anyone else notice Office 2007 is slower starting up?
Sorry to hear that, but I am glad you have a backup.
Btw, it shouldn't overwrite the old one. It should make a new file in the same folder with a different name. Patrick Schmid -------------- http://pschmid.net "tomax7" wrote in message oups.com: Well looks like I lost all my emails. Good thing I got them backed up. Yep, Repaired Outlook via the Add/Remove in the Control Panel because of the crashing and it makes a new .pst file and overwrites the old one on the computer... I am not a happy camper. Patrick Schmid wrote: Remove the data file (use the control panel). Then make a new pst, make it the default one. Open Outlook, open the other pst and copy all folders and stuff over. Don't use import, that function has its problems. It seems that Outlook doesn't like your PST at all. Have you run chkdsk already? There might be an error on your hard drive that crashes Outlook when it tries to access the PST. Patrick Schmid -------------- http://pschmid.net "tomax7" wrote in message oups.com: Spoke too soon. I set up the new profile (Tom) and Outlook loaded ok. Then I set up Tom to use the .PST from the default Outlook profile and it went back to the same loop. Error check, Not Responding. tomax7 wrote: Thanks Patrick. That did it. Patrick Schmid wrote: Try creating a new profile and see if Outlook opens then. Patrick Schmid -------------- http://pschmid.net "tomax7" wrote in message ps.com: Outlook will not work. Goes through the error checking/recovery and then sits with a blank screen/box. Click inside and the familiar "Not Responding" shows in the Title Bar. Close it (Red X) and get an error message, then force close, then send error to MS. As for the previous post about Print Preview not showing to "save on space", what bunk. Don't take the personally, but if that is the reason, forget it. I'm actually loosing space with those "nice big icons" than before. Plus the time spent hunting for the particular grouping of what I want. Don't know what is going through Office production heads, but consider this. Office has been in the same toolbar format for say 12 years and people are accustomed to clicking or finding something fast, now all that has changed. Why? This is speeding things up? This new layout is just as stupid as moving the Windows Explorer shortcut icon from Start/Programs to Start/Programs/Accessories in Windows 2000. Why? To keep trainers employed teaching people where to find things now? Ok, I'll buy that because I'm sure I'll get more work now, was getting tired fixing spyware and Windows patches on computers... Roady [MVP] wrote: It really isn't your lucky day, is it? ;-)
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#45
June 7th, 2006, 03:30 AM
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Anyone else notice Office 2007 is slower starting up?
"...it shouldn't" - is a nice IT phrase ;-) but in reality it has
different meaning. Yes it overwrote the original PST file. My archived one is 186MB this new one is 566KB. Had to grab my raw PST 1.3GB file and drag it into the folder, you were right about the IMPORT feature being useless... But still had to do a repair with it... Lesson to be learned...always backup first! Patrick Schmid wrote: Sorry to hear that, but I am glad you have a backup. Btw, it shouldn't overwrite the old one. It should make a new file in the same folder with a different name. Patrick Schmid -------------- http://pschmid.net "tomax7" wrote in message oups.com: Well looks like I lost all my emails. Good thing I got them backed up. Yep, Repaired Outlook via the Add/Remove in the Control Panel because of the crashing and it makes a new .pst file and overwrites the old one on the computer... I am not a happy camper. Patrick Schmid wrote: Remove the data file (use the control panel). Then make a new pst, make it the default one. Open Outlook, open the other pst and copy all folders and stuff over. Don't use import, that function has its problems. It seems that Outlook doesn't like your PST at all. Have you run chkdsk already? There might be an error on your hard drive that crashes Outlook when it tries to access the PST. Patrick Schmid -------------- http://pschmid.net "tomax7" wrote in message oups.com: Spoke too soon. I set up the new profile (Tom) and Outlook loaded ok. Then I set up Tom to use the .PST from the default Outlook profile and it went back to the same loop. Error check, Not Responding. tomax7 wrote: Thanks Patrick. That did it. Patrick Schmid wrote: Try creating a new profile and see if Outlook opens then. Patrick Schmid -------------- http://pschmid.net "tomax7" wrote in message ps.com: Outlook will not work. Goes through the error checking/recovery and then sits with a blank screen/box. Click inside and the familiar "Not Responding" shows in the Title Bar. Close it (Red X) and get an error message, then force close, then send error to MS. As for the previous post about Print Preview not showing to "save on space", what bunk. Don't take the personally, but if that is the reason, forget it. I'm actually loosing space with those "nice big icons" than before. Plus the time spent hunting for the particular grouping of what I want. Don't know what is going through Office production heads, but consider this. Office has been in the same toolbar format for say 12 years and people are accustomed to clicking or finding something fast, now all that has changed. Why? This is speeding things up? This new layout is just as stupid as moving the Windows Explorer shortcut icon from Start/Programs to Start/Programs/Accessories in Windows 2000. Why? To keep trainers employed teaching people where to find things now? Ok, I'll buy that because I'm sure I'll get more work now, was getting tired fixing spyware and Windows patches on computers... Roady [MVP] wrote: It really isn't your lucky day, is it? ;-)
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#46
June 7th, 2006, 06:09 AM
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Anyone else notice Office 2007 is slower starting up?
"...it shouldn't" - is a nice IT phrase ;-) but in reality it has
different meaning. Yes it overwrote the original PST file. My archived one is 186MB this new one is 566KB. Had to grab my raw PST 1.3GB file and drag it into the folder, you were right about the IMPORT feature being useless... Do you remember what you exactly did that made Outlook overwrite your file? As it shouldn't happen, I'd like to file a bug so that MS can make sure this is not just a nice IT phrase  But still had to do a repair with it... I hope you didn't have to use the scanpst utility. That one is still broken in B2 and I would not recommend using it. Lesson to be learned...always backup first! Welcome to beta testing  All my email is in an IMAP account, so if Outlook shoots the PST, I can get the email easily again. My contacts, etc are synced via Plaxo to a server on the Internet and to my tablet. And my archive PST gets from time to time backed up via the Internet. Patrick Patrick Schmid wrote: Sorry to hear that, but I am glad you have a backup. Btw, it shouldn't overwrite the old one. It should make a new file in the same folder with a different name. Patrick Schmid -------------- http://pschmid.net "tomax7" wrote in message oups.com: Well looks like I lost all my emails. Good thing I got them backed up. Yep, Repaired Outlook via the Add/Remove in the Control Panel because of the crashing and it makes a new .pst file and overwrites the old one on the computer... I am not a happy camper. Patrick Schmid wrote: Remove the data file (use the control panel). Then make a new pst, make it the default one. Open Outlook, open the other pst and copy all folders and stuff over. Don't use import, that function has its problems. It seems that Outlook doesn't like your PST at all. Have you run chkdsk already? There might be an error on your hard drive that crashes Outlook when it tries to access the PST. Patrick Schmid -------------- http://pschmid.net "tomax7" wrote in message oups.com: Spoke too soon. I set up the new profile (Tom) and Outlook loaded ok. Then I set up Tom to use the .PST from the default Outlook profile and it went back to the same loop. Error check, Not Responding. tomax7 wrote: Thanks Patrick. That did it. Patrick Schmid wrote: Try creating a new profile and see if Outlook opens then. Patrick Schmid -------------- http://pschmid.net "tomax7" wrote in message ps.com: Outlook will not work. Goes through the error checking/recovery and then sits with a blank screen/box. Click inside and the familiar "Not Responding" shows in the Title Bar. Close it (Red X) and get an error message, then force close, then send error to MS. As for the previous post about Print Preview not showing to "save on space", what bunk. Don't take the personally, but if that is the reason, forget it. I'm actually loosing space with those "nice big icons" than before. Plus the time spent hunting for the particular grouping of what I want. Don't know what is going through Office production heads, but consider this. Office has been in the same toolbar format for say 12 years and people are accustomed to clicking or finding something fast, now all that has changed. Why? This is speeding things up? This new layout is just as stupid as moving the Windows Explorer shortcut icon from Start/Programs to Start/Programs/Accessories in Windows 2000. Why? To keep trainers employed teaching people where to find things now? Ok, I'll buy that because I'm sure I'll get more work now, was getting tired fixing spyware and Windows patches on computers... Roady [MVP] wrote: It really isn't your lucky day, is it? ;-)
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#47
June 7th, 2006, 07:31 PM
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Anyone else notice Office 2007 is slower starting up?
Hi Patrick
Well Outlook 2007 has been a pain. IN reference to overwriting, my mistake, it makes a new Outlook1.pst file. I just went into Doc&Settings and see the old one there. Still unable to repair that .pst, but thankfully able to restore an archive.pst I did a couple of days ago. Something I've also noticed is the mouse will dissappear once in awhile from typing inside of Outlook. Yes, tried the scanpst and get an error about "procedure entry point DDLUnintInstace@0" Using a new profile as when I try to go back to the default profile, Outlook does a repair and then blank screen then force shutdown, alert MS about the error and shuts it down. I still hate the GROUPS view and Reading Pane, wish one could turn these features off universally and not have to do with every folder I have (26 of them). Plus the Favorite Folders vs Mail Folders. Wish one could shut down Mail Folders or shrink it to a non-existant size, like the Contacts/Calendar, etc. Right now you can only shrink it to a certain size and left with dead space on the left column under it. Patrick Schmid wrote: "...it shouldn't" - is a nice IT phrase ;-) but in reality it has different meaning. Yes it overwrote the original PST file. My archived one is 186MB this new one is 566KB. Had to grab my raw PST 1.3GB file and drag it into the folder, you were right about the IMPORT feature being useless... Do you remember what you exactly did that made Outlook overwrite your file? As it shouldn't happen, I'd like to file a bug so that MS can make sure this is not just a nice IT phrase But still had to do a repair with it... I hope you didn't have to use the scanpst utility. That one is still broken in B2 and I would not recommend using it. Lesson to be learned...always backup first! Welcome to beta testing All my email is in an IMAP account, so if Outlook shoots the PST, I can get the email easily again. My contacts, etc are synced via Plaxo to a server on the Internet and to my tablet. And my archive PST gets from time to time backed up via the Internet. Patrick Patrick Schmid wrote: Sorry to hear that, but I am glad you have a backup. Btw, it shouldn't overwrite the old one. It should make a new file in the same folder with a different name. Patrick Schmid -------------- http://pschmid.net "tomax7" wrote in message oups.com: Well looks like I lost all my emails. Good thing I got them backed up. Yep, Repaired Outlook via the Add/Remove in the Control Panel because of the crashing and it makes a new .pst file and overwrites the old one on the computer... I am not a happy camper. Patrick Schmid wrote: Remove the data file (use the control panel). Then make a new pst, make it the default one. Open Outlook, open the other pst and copy all folders and stuff over. Don't use import, that function has its problems. It seems that Outlook doesn't like your PST at all. Have you run chkdsk already? There might be an error on your hard drive that crashes Outlook when it tries to access the PST. Patrick Schmid -------------- http://pschmid.net "tomax7" wrote in message oups.com: Spoke too soon. I set up the new profile (Tom) and Outlook loaded ok. Then I set up Tom to use the .PST from the default Outlook profile and it went back to the same loop. Error check, Not Responding. tomax7 wrote: Thanks Patrick. That did it. Patrick Schmid wrote: Try creating a new profile and see if Outlook opens then. Patrick Schmid -------------- http://pschmid.net "tomax7" wrote in message ps.com: Outlook will not work. Goes through the error checking/recovery and then sits with a blank screen/box. Click inside and the familiar "Not Responding" shows in the Title Bar. Close it (Red X) and get an error message, then force close, then send error to MS. As for the previous post about Print Preview not showing to "save on space", what bunk. Don't take the personally, but if that is the reason, forget it. I'm actually loosing space with those "nice big icons" than before. Plus the time spent hunting for the particular grouping of what I want. Don't know what is going through Office production heads, but consider this. Office has been in the same toolbar format for say 12 years and people are accustomed to clicking or finding something fast, now all that has changed. Why? This is speeding things up? This new layout is just as stupid as moving the Windows Explorer shortcut icon from Start/Programs to Start/Programs/Accessories in Windows 2000. Why? To keep trainers employed teaching people where to find things now? Ok, I'll buy that because I'm sure I'll get more work now, was getting tired fixing spyware and Windows patches on computers... Roady [MVP] wrote: It really isn't your lucky day, is it? ;-)
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June 7th, 2006, 08:52 PM
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Anyone else notice Office 2007 is slower starting up?
You have to load Outlook with the /cleanviews switch and then via define
Views modify the generic one that is used for all folders. I am glad it kept your old file! Patrick Schmid -------------- http://pschmid.net "tomax7" wrote in message oups.com: Hi Patrick Well Outlook 2007 has been a pain. IN reference to overwriting, my mistake, it makes a new Outlook1.pst file. I just went into Doc&Settings and see the old one there. Still unable to repair that .pst, but thankfully able to restore an archive.pst I did a couple of days ago. Something I've also noticed is the mouse will dissappear once in awhile from typing inside of Outlook. Yes, tried the scanpst and get an error about "procedure entry point DDLUnintInstace@0" Using a new profile as when I try to go back to the default profile, Outlook does a repair and then blank screen then force shutdown, alert MS about the error and shuts it down. I still hate the GROUPS view and Reading Pane, wish one could turn these features off universally and not have to do with every folder I have (26 of them). Plus the Favorite Folders vs Mail Folders. Wish one could shut down Mail Folders or shrink it to a non-existant size, like the Contacts/Calendar, etc. Right now you can only shrink it to a certain size and left with dead space on the left column under it. Patrick Schmid wrote: "...it shouldn't" - is a nice IT phrase ;-) but in reality it has different meaning. Yes it overwrote the original PST file. My archived one is 186MB this new one is 566KB. Had to grab my raw PST 1.3GB file and drag it into the folder, you were right about the IMPORT feature being useless... Do you remember what you exactly did that made Outlook overwrite your file? As it shouldn't happen, I'd like to file a bug so that MS can make sure this is not just a nice IT phrase But still had to do a repair with it... I hope you didn't have to use the scanpst utility. That one is still broken in B2 and I would not recommend using it. Lesson to be learned...always backup first! Welcome to beta testing All my email is in an IMAP account, so if Outlook shoots the PST, I can get the email easily again. My contacts, etc are synced via Plaxo to a server on the Internet and to my tablet. And my archive PST gets from time to time backed up via the Internet. Patrick Patrick Schmid wrote: Sorry to hear that, but I am glad you have a backup. Btw, it shouldn't overwrite the old one. It should make a new file in the same folder with a different name. Patrick Schmid -------------- http://pschmid.net "tomax7" wrote in message oups.com: Well looks like I lost all my emails. Good thing I got them backed up. Yep, Repaired Outlook via the Add/Remove in the Control Panel because of the crashing and it makes a new .pst file and overwrites the old one on the computer... I am not a happy camper. Patrick Schmid wrote: Remove the data file (use the control panel). Then make a new pst, make it the default one. Open Outlook, open the other pst and copy all folders and stuff over. Don't use import, that function has its problems. It seems that Outlook doesn't like your PST at all. Have you run chkdsk already? There might be an error on your hard drive that crashes Outlook when it tries to access the PST. Patrick Schmid -------------- http://pschmid.net "tomax7" wrote in message oups.com: Spoke too soon. I set up the new profile (Tom) and Outlook loaded ok. Then I set up Tom to use the .PST from the default Outlook profile and it went back to the same loop. Error check, Not Responding. tomax7 wrote: Thanks Patrick. That did it. Patrick Schmid wrote: Try creating a new profile and see if Outlook opens then. Patrick Schmid -------------- http://pschmid.net "tomax7" wrote in message ps.com: Outlook will not work. Goes through the error checking/recovery and then sits with a blank screen/box. Click inside and the familiar "Not Responding" shows in the Title Bar. Close it (Red X) and get an error message, then force close, then send error to MS. As for the previous post about Print Preview not showing to "save on space", what bunk. Don't take the personally, but if that is the reason, forget it. I'm actually loosing space with those "nice big icons" than before. Plus the time spent hunting for the particular grouping of what I want. Don't know what is going through Office production heads, but consider this. Office has been in the same toolbar format for say 12 years and people are accustomed to clicking or finding something fast, now all that has changed. Why? This is speeding things up? This new layout is just as stupid as moving the Windows Explorer shortcut icon from Start/Programs to Start/Programs/Accessories in Windows 2000. Why? To keep trainers employed teaching people where to find things now? Ok, I'll buy that because I'm sure I'll get more work now, was getting tired fixing spyware and Windows patches on computers... Roady [MVP] wrote: It really isn't your lucky day, is it? ;-)
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