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Old May 6th, 2005, 06:00 AM
stephanie
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W2K. Outlook 2002 SP3.

I need to be able to sort deleted files by the date that each one was deleted.

I have created a "Deleted" field in my Deleted Files folder. I have
identified it as a "date/time." But I can't figure out how to define it.
"None" is entered in this column for each item.

Many thanks.
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Old May 6th, 2005, 12:46 PM
Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]
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Outlook does not maintain that information automatically. You would have =
to write VBA code to monitor the Deleted Items folder for new items and, =
for each item added, set the value of the Deleted field.

Why do you want to do this anyway? These are deleted items after all. Do =
you sort through your garbage can at home to distinguish yesterday's =
banana peels from today's?=20

--=20
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for=20
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx


"stephanie" wrote in message =
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W2K. Outlook 2002 SP3. =20
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I need to be able to sort deleted files by the date that each one was =

deleted.
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I have created a "Deleted" field in my Deleted Files folder. I have=20
identified it as a "date/time." But I can't figure out how to define =

it. =20
"None" is entered in this column for each item.
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Many thanks.

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Old May 6th, 2005, 03:50 PM
Marilyn
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I have to say that for an MVP your response was extremely rude. In the
future try to refrain from responding in such a manner. We know you guys are
probably tired of the same impossible questions, but that does not mean you
can be curt in your response.

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Outlook does not maintain that information automatically. You would have to write VBA code to monitor the Deleted Items folder for new items and, for each item added, set the value of the Deleted field.

Why do you want to do this anyway? These are deleted items after all. Do you sort through your garbage can at home to distinguish yesterday's banana peels from today's?

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx


"stephanie" wrote in message ...
W2K. Outlook 2002 SP3.

I need to be able to sort deleted files by the date that each one was deleted.

I have created a "Deleted" field in my Deleted Files folder. I have
identified it as a "date/time." But I can't figure out how to define it.
"None" is entered in this column for each item.

Many thanks.


  #4  
Old May 6th, 2005, 06:00 PM
Brian Tillman
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Marilyn wrote:

I have to say that for an MVP your response was extremely rude. In
the future try to refrain from responding in such a manner. We know
you guys are probably tired of the same impossible questions, but
that does not mean you can be curt in your response.


I thought it was a to-the-point answer. Deleted items should be considered,
well, deleted.
--
Brian Tillman

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Old May 6th, 2005, 06:07 PM
Brian Tillman
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stephanie wrote:

W2K. Outlook 2002 SP3.

I need to be able to sort deleted files by the date that each one was
deleted.

I have created a "Deleted" field in my Deleted Files folder. I have
identified it as a "date/time." But I can't figure out how to
define it. "None" is entered in this column for each item.


The closest you can come, in my opinion, is to include the modified date in
that field. Since moving a message to a folder updates the modified date,
that date should be a reasonable measure of when the item was moved (aka
deleted), provided you don't do anything else to update the item.
--
Brian Tillman

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Old May 6th, 2005, 08:00 PM
Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]
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Boy, everybody seems to have really thin skins today. Is it too much =
pollen in the air? Anyway, I guess that's what I get for trying to =
inject a little humor. We see people all the time trying to use Deleted =
Items for something other than what it was designed for, and it =
inevitably causes problems. That's why I hinted that Stephanie might =
want to explain what her real business goal is. If we knew that, it =
might be possible to suggest a practical solution.=20

--=20
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for=20
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx


"Marilyn" wrote in message =
...
I have to say that for an MVP your response was extremely rude. In the =


future try to refrain from responding in such a manner. We know you =

guys are=20
probably tired of the same impossible questions, but that does not =

mean you=20
can be curt in your response. =20
=20
"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:
=20
Outlook does not maintain that information automatically. You would =

have to write VBA code to monitor the Deleted Items folder for new items =
and, for each item added, set the value of the Deleted field.
=20
Why do you want to do this anyway? These are deleted items after all. =

Do you sort through your garbage can at home to distinguish yesterday's =
banana peels from today's?=20
=20
"stephanie" wrote in message =

...
W2K. Outlook 2002 SP3. =20
=20
I need to be able to sort deleted files by the date that each one =

was deleted.
=20
I have created a "Deleted" field in my Deleted Files folder. I have =


identified it as a "date/time." But I can't figure out how to =

define it. =20
"None" is entered in this column for each item.
=20
Many thanks.


  #7  
Old May 8th, 2005, 02:36 AM
stephanie
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Thank you very much Sue. Actually, you have almost grasped the problem.

Because some of the messages I receive are not junk to be discarded
immediately, they may remain in my Inbox for several days while I research,
convene meetings, or otherwise take action prior to deleting them.

Accordingly, when I finally do delete them, they may slip down into the
depths of several days’ worth of banana peels. Which is generally fine with
me.

But occasionally I determine that a deleted item must be recovered. And OL
2002 makes a very nice provision for that exigency. And this provision works
perfectly if one deletes items in the same order in which they were received.
But, as you by now have probably figured out, my responsibilities do not
always allow for that.

I had hoped that by sorting them by deletion date, that I could get some
notion of how deep to plunge in after a deleted item.

SO. Thank you for advising me that only someone of greater expertise than
myself can accomplish this. That is good information.

Stephanie

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Outlook does not maintain that information automatically. You would have to write VBA code to monitor the Deleted Items folder for new items and, for each item added, set the value of the Deleted field.

Why do you want to do this anyway? These are deleted items after all. Do you sort through your garbage can at home to distinguish yesterday's banana peels from today's?

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx


"stephanie" wrote in message ...
W2K. Outlook 2002 SP3.

I need to be able to sort deleted files by the date that each one was deleted.

I have created a "Deleted" field in my Deleted Files folder. I have
identified it as a "date/time." But I can't figure out how to define it.
"None" is entered in this column for each item.

Many thanks.


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Old May 8th, 2005, 02:36 AM
stephanie
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Thank you very much, Marilyn.

In my experience, MVP’s get their jollies belittling those of us who have
less experience in a specific field than they do. They are more interested
in self-aggrandizement than helping.

Their ridicule is the price we pay to get the information we need -
generally not from them, but from a more generous soul in the community.

At least she was not as cruel as some I have encountered.

Stephanie

"Marilyn" wrote:

I have to say that for an MVP your response was extremely rude. In the
future try to refrain from responding in such a manner. We know you guys are
probably tired of the same impossible questions, but that does not mean you
can be curt in your response.

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Outlook does not maintain that information automatically. You would have to write VBA code to monitor the Deleted Items folder for new items and, for each item added, set the value of the Deleted field.

Why do you want to do this anyway? These are deleted items after all. Do you sort through your garbage can at home to distinguish yesterday's banana peels from today's?

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx


"stephanie" wrote in message ...
W2K. Outlook 2002 SP3.

I need to be able to sort deleted files by the date that each one was deleted.

I have created a "Deleted" field in my Deleted Files folder. I have
identified it as a "date/time." But I can't figure out how to define it.
"None" is entered in this column for each item.

Many thanks.


  #9  
Old May 8th, 2005, 02:37 AM
stephanie
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Hi, Brian.

I don’t necessarily delete items in the same order they were received. And
once in a while, I need to recover something I have deleted. Unless it is
something I just received, I have no idea where to look for it in the deleted
folder. I keep things in the trash for a few days, just in case of this
situation.

It is a good device, but there must be a better way for me to use it. Got
any ideas?

thanks,

Stephanie
Marilyn wrote:

I have to say that for an MVP your response was extremely rude. In
the future try to refrain from responding in such a manner. We know
you guys are probably tired of the same impossible questions, but
that does not mean you can be curt in your response.


I thought it was a to-the-point answer. Deleted items should be considered,
well, deleted.
--
Brian Tillman


  #10  
Old May 8th, 2005, 02:41 AM
stephanie
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Humor amuses the audience. Humor elicits laughter.
Ridicule for someone less advanced than oneself elicits contempt.

I shall accept your belittlement as flattery, that you consider me to be
your equal.
But, I must confess, it was hurtful, since I do consider you my better, and,
given your position as an MVP, had expected a more generous spirit. And at
least some modicum effort to actually help.

In written communications, we do not have voice intonation or face or body
language to work with, so must use humor with discretion.

And in all cases, we must be mindful that humor is in “the eye of the
beholder.”


"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Boy, everybody seems to have really thin skins today. Is it too much pollen in the air? Anyway, I guess that's what I get for trying to inject a little humor. We see people all the time trying to use Deleted Items for something other than what it was designed for, and it inevitably causes problems. That's why I hinted that Stephanie might want to explain what her real business goal is. If we knew that, it might be possible to suggest a practical solution.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx


"Marilyn" wrote in message ...
I have to say that for an MVP your response was extremely rude. In the
future try to refrain from responding in such a manner. We know you guys are
probably tired of the same impossible questions, but that does not mean you
can be curt in your response.

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Outlook does not maintain that information automatically. You would have to write VBA code to monitor the Deleted Items folder for new items and, for each item added, set the value of the Deleted field.

Why do you want to do this anyway? These are deleted items after all. Do you sort through your garbage can at home to distinguish yesterday's banana peels from today's?

"stephanie" wrote in message ...
W2K. Outlook 2002 SP3.

I need to be able to sort deleted files by the date that each one was deleted.

I have created a "Deleted" field in my Deleted Files folder. I have
identified it as a "date/time." But I can't figure out how to define it.
"None" is entered in this column for each item.

Many thanks.


 




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