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Old June 13th, 2005, 06:27 PM
Jerry
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Default installed infopath. Rest of office is 2000. Now OU thinks i'm 2K3

I installed infopath from ent. version with license.
want to keep Office 2000 though. OU thinks i'm office 2K3 now though?
Any thoughts? It installed things that shut down webcasts for one. I had to
disable AUTHDAX.DLL through Int. explorer to get webcasts working again.
don't know if this setup is safe or advisable. Any thoughts?

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Old June 14th, 2005, 03:39 PM
Susan Ramlet
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Hi, Jerry,

Office Update uses the same information that you see in the Windows Control
Panel's Add/Remove Programs applet. If you look in there to see what's
installed, you should see both components from Infopath and Office 2K.
Office Update will supply Office 2K3 updates to InfoPath and Office 2K
updates to Office 2K, as appropriate.

The setup should be just fine. If your Office 2K isn't working properly,
try repairing its installation by re-running setup.

--
Susan Ramlet
MVP - Office

Please reply to the newsgroups where others may benefit.


"Jerry" wrote in message
...
I installed infopath from ent. version with license.
want to keep Office 2000 though. OU thinks i'm office 2K3 now though?
Any thoughts? It installed things that shut down webcasts for one. I had

to
disable AUTHDAX.DLL through Int. explorer to get webcasts working again.
don't know if this setup is safe or advisable. Any thoughts?



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Old June 15th, 2005, 01:25 AM
Jerry
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Hi Susan,
Oddly enough only Office 2003 existed in add remove programs. Infopath did
not have it's own entry. The start menu had microsoft office folder added
with infopath and some tools in it. I wonder, since you can get infopath in a
standalone version, since I installed from Office 2K3 Prof. ent version using
custom install and simply only choosing infopath, if there would have been a
better way? Other problems existed in, for one, Office update. When i used
office update after the infopath install, it wanted to give me updates for
all office 2003 apps....outlook 2003 junk mail filter, word security update
etc. Obviously I did not have those apps. Also, the fact I had to disable
AUTHZAX.DLL to get webcasts working ( i think there was some conflict with
the version of Live Meeting wrapper installed on my PC??) doesn't make me
feel any better about it. I'm not saying your advice is wrong, but I think
since you were not aware that infopath was not in add/remove programs you may
have misunderstood some of it. I'm not sure if there are any other options to
install infopath only from this CD? I do not see any. Perhaps it has it's own
setup executable on the CD...i can't find that either however. Sorry to sound
so woefully inept here. I'm coming out of an old poly forth based system
which i've been pigeonholed in for the last 15 years. Windows is relatively
new to me beyond just using it's shell.
Jerry


"Susan Ramlet" wrote:

Hi, Jerry,

Office Update uses the same information that you see in the Windows Control
Panel's Add/Remove Programs applet. If you look in there to see what's
installed, you should see both components from Infopath and Office 2K.
Office Update will supply Office 2K3 updates to InfoPath and Office 2K
updates to Office 2K, as appropriate.

The setup should be just fine. If your Office 2K isn't working properly,
try repairing its installation by re-running setup.

--
Susan Ramlet
MVP - Office

Please reply to the newsgroups where others may benefit.


"Jerry" wrote in message
...
I installed infopath from ent. version with license.
want to keep Office 2000 though. OU thinks i'm office 2K3 now though?
Any thoughts? It installed things that shut down webcasts for one. I had

to
disable AUTHDAX.DLL through Int. explorer to get webcasts working again.
don't know if this setup is safe or advisable. Any thoughts?




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Old June 15th, 2005, 02:58 PM
Susan Ramlet
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Hi, Jerry,

When you install any Office component from the suite, Office installs a
bunch of shared components also. The updates are probably trying to update
shared Office components that may or may not directly relate to Infopath.
Individual applications installed from the suite are not listed separately
in the Add/Remove Programs application. They do not have their own setup
executables. Office Update is not always the most intuitive or intelligent
feature of the Office family, as you can see from the multitude of postings
in this newsgroup. You can also choose not to install updates you are not
sure of.

Not knowing exactly what options you selected in the setup program for
Office (to install Infopath), I can't tell you if there was a better way to
install it or not. But what you did certainly doesn't seem wrong, and
though Microsoft doesn't generally support multiple versions of the Office
applications on a single workstation, most folks don't run into major
issues.

Honestly, what I would consider doing is installing all of Office 2003
applications at the same time so you're at the same level across the board.
To upgrade / remove older Office 2000 components, you will need to have the
original installation media for Office 2000 (an unfortunate fact of Office
2000 setup logic that has since been mitigated in later versions of Office).

As for the LiveMeeting issue, that's a new one on me. You might try
re-installing the LiveMeeting components to see if that repairs your
installation.

Since you are new to Office and Windows, are you aware of the free Knowledge
Base? It's a fabulous resource:

http://search.support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1

--
Susan Ramlet
MVP - Office

Please reply to the newsgroups where others may benefit.


"Jerry" wrote in message
...
Hi Susan,
Oddly enough only Office 2003 existed in add remove programs. Infopath did
not have it's own entry. The start menu had microsoft office folder added
with infopath and some tools in it. I wonder, since you can get infopath

in a
standalone version, since I installed from Office 2K3 Prof. ent version

using
custom install and simply only choosing infopath, if there would have been

a
better way? Other problems existed in, for one, Office update. When i used
office update after the infopath install, it wanted to give me updates for
all office 2003 apps....outlook 2003 junk mail filter, word security

update
etc. Obviously I did not have those apps. Also, the fact I had to disable
AUTHZAX.DLL to get webcasts working ( i think there was some conflict with
the version of Live Meeting wrapper installed on my PC??) doesn't make me
feel any better about it. I'm not saying your advice is wrong, but I

think
since you were not aware that infopath was not in add/remove programs you

may
have misunderstood some of it. I'm not sure if there are any other options

to
install infopath only from this CD? I do not see any. Perhaps it has it's

own
setup executable on the CD...i can't find that either however. Sorry to

sound
so woefully inept here. I'm coming out of an old poly forth based system
which i've been pigeonholed in for the last 15 years. Windows is

relatively
new to me beyond just using it's shell.
Jerry


"Susan Ramlet" wrote:

Hi, Jerry,

Office Update uses the same information that you see in the Windows

Control
Panel's Add/Remove Programs applet. If you look in there to see what's
installed, you should see both components from Infopath and Office 2K.
Office Update will supply Office 2K3 updates to InfoPath and Office 2K
updates to Office 2K, as appropriate.

The setup should be just fine. If your Office 2K isn't working

properly,
try repairing its installation by re-running setup.

--
Susan Ramlet
MVP - Office

Please reply to the newsgroups where others may benefit.


"Jerry" wrote in message
...
I installed infopath from ent. version with license.
want to keep Office 2000 though. OU thinks i'm office 2K3 now though?
Any thoughts? It installed things that shut down webcasts for one. I

had
to
disable AUTHDAX.DLL through Int. explorer to get webcasts working

again.
don't know if this setup is safe or advisable. Any thoughts?






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Old June 16th, 2005, 06:30 AM
Jerry
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Hi Susan,
Hope all is well with you......just to recap and finish up I wanted to go
back to my original needs. I do need to keep 2000 for a while for work
projects but wanted to get moving with infoPath. I will install the entire
suite soon enough so I'll wait till then for infopath too. The live meeting
statement was a wild guess on my part. It seemed odd to me that the webcasts
were the only thing I found not working after the install as I view them
often and disabling AUTHZAX.dll got them working again. I only tied it to
Live meeting due to the fact both office 2003 adn live meeting had their own
entries for IE. It was just a guess though.....who knows why disabling that
file allowed webcasts to start working after the office 2K3 infopath install.
Someone I'm sure would know but I certainly don't. Just a guess. What
happened was I would go to an on demand webcast, hit register(funny you have
to follow the same steps as a live webcast), login to passport, enter a name
to be known by(again why? it's on demand ) and then when I clicked the icon
that takes you to the final screen that gives choice of wmp or some generic
viewer, it would give me a message that the webcast requested Could Not Be
Found. No matter what webcast. I tried probably 25. Again disabling the IE
component, whatever AUTHZAX is, did the trick.
Lastly, you mention that Microsoft does not recommend mixing Office
versions, however in this one case, I read specifically that InfoPath was
the one app that could be installed with Office 2000. In fact it is supposed
to work with Access 2000 as a data source just fine for example. The article
also talked about using it with SQL 2000 and some other non office 2003 apps.
It was a Microsoft article in an MSDN Flash that contained that info and
prompted me to install it. So my adventure was based on info right from the
source. Ok, i've now told you way more than you needed to know about my
little experience.
Thanks for all your information. This is kind of unique situation but I did
learn some valuable things and feel more confident about 2003 from things
you've said.
thanks again.
Jerry

"Susan Ramlet" wrote:

Hi, Jerry,

When you install any Office component from the suite, Office installs a
bunch of shared components also. The updates are probably trying to update
shared Office components that may or may not directly relate to Infopath.
Individual applications installed from the suite are not listed separately
in the Add/Remove Programs application. They do not have their own setup
executables. Office Update is not always the most intuitive or intelligent
feature of the Office family, as you can see from the multitude of postings
in this newsgroup. You can also choose not to install updates you are not
sure of.

Not knowing exactly what options you selected in the setup program for
Office (to install Infopath), I can't tell you if there was a better way to
install it or not. But what you did certainly doesn't seem wrong, and
though Microsoft doesn't generally support multiple versions of the Office
applications on a single workstation, most folks don't run into major
issues.

Honestly, what I would consider doing is installing all of Office 2003
applications at the same time so you're at the same level across the board.
To upgrade / remove older Office 2000 components, you will need to have the
original installation media for Office 2000 (an unfortunate fact of Office
2000 setup logic that has since been mitigated in later versions of Office).

As for the LiveMeeting issue, that's a new one on me. You might try
re-installing the LiveMeeting components to see if that repairs your
installation.

Since you are new to Office and Windows, are you aware of the free Knowledge
Base? It's a fabulous resource:

http://search.support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1

--
Susan Ramlet
MVP - Office

Please reply to the newsgroups where others may benefit.


"Jerry" wrote in message
...
Hi Susan,
Oddly enough only Office 2003 existed in add remove programs. Infopath did
not have it's own entry. The start menu had microsoft office folder added
with infopath and some tools in it. I wonder, since you can get infopath

in a
standalone version, since I installed from Office 2K3 Prof. ent version

using
custom install and simply only choosing infopath, if there would have been

a
better way? Other problems existed in, for one, Office update. When i used
office update after the infopath install, it wanted to give me updates for
all office 2003 apps....outlook 2003 junk mail filter, word security

update
etc. Obviously I did not have those apps. Also, the fact I had to disable
AUTHZAX.DLL to get webcasts working ( i think there was some conflict with
the version of Live Meeting wrapper installed on my PC??) doesn't make me
feel any better about it. I'm not saying your advice is wrong, but I

think
since you were not aware that infopath was not in add/remove programs you

may
have misunderstood some of it. I'm not sure if there are any other options

to
install infopath only from this CD? I do not see any. Perhaps it has it's

own
setup executable on the CD...i can't find that either however. Sorry to

sound
so woefully inept here. I'm coming out of an old poly forth based system
which i've been pigeonholed in for the last 15 years. Windows is

relatively
new to me beyond just using it's shell.
Jerry


"Susan Ramlet" wrote:

Hi, Jerry,

Office Update uses the same information that you see in the Windows

Control
Panel's Add/Remove Programs applet. If you look in there to see what's
installed, you should see both components from Infopath and Office 2K.
Office Update will supply Office 2K3 updates to InfoPath and Office 2K
updates to Office 2K, as appropriate.

The setup should be just fine. If your Office 2K isn't working

properly,
try repairing its installation by re-running setup.

--
Susan Ramlet
MVP - Office

Please reply to the newsgroups where others may benefit.


"Jerry" wrote in message
...
I installed infopath from ent. version with license.
want to keep Office 2000 though. OU thinks i'm office 2K3 now though?
Any thoughts? It installed things that shut down webcasts for one. I

had
to
disable AUTHDAX.DLL through Int. explorer to get webcasts working

again.
don't know if this setup is safe or advisable. Any thoughts?







 




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