LOCAL FOLDERS DISSAPEARED- Help !!!

a..
b.. Actually there is a complete set of folders and messsages in the
store folder.
c.. There are also three other store folders in the
d.. same folder as the store folder.
e..
f.. Yes there is a folders.dbx in this store folder.
g..
h.. I tried to import from the computer default assigned store directory
i..
j..
k.. there are four store directories.
l.. in the same folder that the default store directory is in.
m..
n.. They seem to have a few different folders in each, and some of those
o.. folders that are the same have different sizes
p..
q.. Is there a way you can get into my computer from your
r.. desk top and see what is going on?
I have go to my pc if that helps

a.. I can tie my son in by conference (3 way)
We can converse by phone at the same time.
b.. He is much more computer savvy than I although
c.. he is the one that messed this up by mistake.
d..
e.. Be glad to pay you for your expertise.
Ken B
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Please follow the thread line so all previous messages are included. Thank
you.

They are not in the store folder. At least not the one you are using. Did
you note the path to /your/ store folder? (Tools | Options | Maintenance |
Store Folder). The folder with your dbx files are in a different folder.
Correct?

Important. Is there a Folders.dbx among the dbx files? If there is, how
did you try to import? Did you select from an OE identity, or OE store
directory?

Also, let me know if there is any messages in your current OE identity
that you absolutely need.
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"BKent1" wrote in message
...
Yes thankyou.
Found all the dbx folders in the store file.
However when I try to import them into my OE a window
comes up telling me that the messages can not be found
or there is another application running the required files.


Ken B. Santa Monica.


"BKent1" wrote in message
...
there is 32 .dbx files found with dates from 12/708 all the way back to
11/04 when I first got this computer.
Most of them are eith 74 kb or 3,292 seems to be most common..

Can I assume the most accurate folder is the one lost about the time my
son
lost the file ?

Ken B
thankyou in advance for your help, I am a techno idioto.
Ken B


"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Write down the path to these dbx files you found doing the search.

Follow that path in Windows Explorer. Do you see them?

Are they all together in one folder?

Look for Folders.dbx. Is that among them? If yes, Open OE and import
them.

File | Import | Messages. Select Microsoft Outlook Express 6 and check:
Import from an OE store Directory. Point to the location of the folder
you found and import.
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA



"BKent1" wrote in message
...
Ohh, sorry, first time I have used newsgroup.
windows xp/sp2 OS

My son tried moving the whole OE local folders file
using IE to a new storage folder created on C drive.

Alot (100+) of files come up searching .dbx

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
So you're just going to ask the same question over and over and
ignore my post? OK. Someone else can handle it for you.
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"BKent1" wrote in message
...
My young son thought he could move the local folders file of
OUTLOOK
EXPRESS 6 (all my folders)
into a new folder he creaed outside of Outlook express.

When he clicked on MOVE TO, instead of all the LOCAL folders showing
up in
the new file,
the LOCAL FOLDERS (and all the 109 subfolders) disspeared .

8 years of business and personal files!!!

WOULD ANYONE KNOW HOW TO RETREIVE THE LOCAL FOLDER FILE???

KEN B in L.A.



"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
1: Is this the machine in question? (XP/SP2).

2: Was he in Windows Explorer at the time and try to move the
Outlook Express message store folder, or the individual dbx files
within the message store?

You can Right Click and Send To, or drag the folder or files and
then select Move, but I am not seeing a Move To option. Please
elaborate so I can give you the best advice.

Enable Hidden Files and Folders:

In WinXP, Win2K & Win2K3, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by
default marked as hidden. To view these files in Windows Explorer,
you must enable Show Hidden Files and Folders under Start | Control
Panel | Folder Options Icon | View, or in Windows Explorer | Tools
| Folder Options | View.

Now do a search for

*.dbx

What do you find?
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"BKent1" wrote in message
...
My young son thought he could move the local folders file of
OUTLOOK EXPRESS 6 (all my folders)
into a new folder he creaed outside of Outlook express.

When he clicked on MOVE TO, instead of all the LOCAL folders
showing up in the new file,
the LOCAL FOLDERS (and all the 109 subfolders) disspeared .

8 years of business and personal files!!!

WOULD ANYONE KNOW HOW TO RETREIVE THE LOCAL FOLDER FILE???

KEN B in L.A.

Unfortunately, there is no way I could help as you suggest. I just have one
simple computer that is no better than yours except that everything is
intact. I have no way to access your machine like a tech pro could. From
what you just posted, you have a lot of folders in the wrong places. More
than you should have. And folders in folders that should not be, unless I
misinterpret you.

I do have one, perhaps simple, thing for you to try. The store folders are
the Outlook Express folders in Window Explorer. They all have a path similar
to this:

C:\Documents and Settings\Your User Name\Local Settings\Application
Data\Identities\A long string of numbers and letters\Microsoft\Outlook
Express

At the point where you get to Identities, you see a few, correct? Can you
determine which one contains the dbx files that you are missing?

IOW, Identities\Numbers & Letters\Microsoft\Outlook Express

If you have determined which Outlook Express folder contains the dbx files
you are missing, make note of it.

Now, do you know which Outlook Express folder is the one for your current
OE? It is the one with the same identity, (Numbers and letters), that you
see in Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder in Outlook Express.

***Close OE.*** You MUST do this.

Expand the folder tree in Windows Explorer so that you have your current
OE's Outlook Express folder exposed, but do not open it.

Expand the folder tree so that the Outlook Express folder that has your dbx
files in it is exposed. Click on that OE folder and you should see your 100+
dbx files in the right hand pane.

Right click on one to highlight it and then Ctrl+A will highlight them all.
OK so far?

Right click again and click Properties. Clear the Read Only attribute.

OK out and make sure all the dbx files are still highlighted.

Right click on the highlighted dbx files and drag them to the Outlook
Express folder for the identity you have determined is the one you need the
files in for your current OE identity and have already exposed by expanding
the folder tree.

When you see it turn blue, release the right mouse key and select Copy Here,
not Move here.

You may see a prompt asking if you want to overwrite. Click YES.

Open OE. If you dragged the correct dbx files to the correct Outlook Express
folder, they /should/ be back.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Should all this not correct the problem, I suggest you take the tower to a
local and reputable computer doc. Preferably not something like Bust Buy's
Geek Squad. Perhaps print out this thread for reference.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hopefully you get this resolved. In any case, there are two things you must
do to both prevent this and be able to fix it easy in the future.

1: Back up OE daily to fix a problem like this in minutes.

This freeware tool backs up everything in OE in seconds. Disregard what is
written in red. That is referring to a different program.

Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB):
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx

2: Don't let anyone touch your machine other than you. *Especially* if they
are more computer savvy than you.
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA




"BKent1" wrote in message
...
a..
b.. Actually there is a complete set of folders and messsages in the
store folder.
c.. There are also three other store folders in the
d.. same folder as the store folder.
e..
f.. Yes there is a folders.dbx in this store folder.
g..
h.. I tried to import from the computer default assigned store directory
i..
j..
k.. there are four store directories.
l.. in the same folder that the default store directory is in.
m..
n.. They seem to have a few different folders in each, and some of those
o.. folders that are the same have different sizes
p..
q.. Is there a way you can get into my computer from your
r.. desk top and see what is going on?
I have go to my pc if that helps

a.. I can tie my son in by conference (3 way)
We can converse by phone at the same time.
b.. He is much more computer savvy than I although
c.. he is the one that messed this up by mistake.
d..
e.. Be glad to pay you for your expertise.
Ken B
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Please follow the thread line so all previous messages are included.
Thank you.

They are not in the store folder. At least not the one you are using. Did
you note the path to /your/ store folder? (Tools | Options | Maintenance
| Store Folder). The folder with your dbx files are in a different
folder. Correct?

Important. Is there a Folders.dbx among the dbx files? If there is, how
did you try to import? Did you select from an OE identity, or OE store
directory?

Also, let me know if there is any messages in your current OE identity
that you absolutely need.
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"BKent1" wrote in message
...
Yes thankyou.
Found all the dbx folders in the store file.
However when I try to import them into my OE a window
comes up telling me that the messages can not be found
or there is another application running the required files.


Ken B. Santa Monica.


"BKent1" wrote in message
...
there is 32 .dbx files found with dates from 12/708 all the way back to
11/04 when I first got this computer.
Most of them are eith 74 kb or 3,292 seems to be most common..

Can I assume the most accurate folder is the one lost about the time my
son
lost the file ?

Ken B
thankyou in advance for your help, I am a techno idioto.
Ken B


"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Write down the path to these dbx files you found doing the search.

Follow that path in Windows Explorer. Do you see them?

Are they all together in one folder?

Look for Folders.dbx. Is that among them? If yes, Open OE and import
them.

File | Import | Messages. Select Microsoft Outlook Express 6 and
check: Import from an OE store Directory. Point to the location of the
folder you found and import.
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA



"BKent1" wrote in message
...
Ohh, sorry, first time I have used newsgroup.
windows xp/sp2 OS

My son tried moving the whole OE local folders file
using IE to a new storage folder created on C drive.

Alot (100+) of files come up searching .dbx

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
So you're just going to ask the same question over and over and
ignore my post? OK. Someone else can handle it for you.
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"BKent1" wrote in message
...
My young son thought he could move the local folders file of
OUTLOOK
EXPRESS 6 (all my folders)
into a new folder he creaed outside of Outlook express.

When he clicked on MOVE TO, instead of all the LOCAL folders
showing up in
the new file,
the LOCAL FOLDERS (and all the 109 subfolders) disspeared .

8 years of business and personal files!!!

WOULD ANYONE KNOW HOW TO RETREIVE THE LOCAL FOLDER FILE???

KEN B in L.A.



"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
1: Is this the machine in question? (XP/SP2).

2: Was he in Windows Explorer at the time and try to move the
Outlook Express message store folder, or the individual dbx files
within the message store?

You can Right Click and Send To, or drag the folder or files and
then select Move, but I am not seeing a Move To option. Please
elaborate so I can give you the best advice.

Enable Hidden Files and Folders:

In WinXP, Win2K & Win2K3, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by
default marked as hidden. To view these files in Windows Explorer,
you must enable Show Hidden Files and Folders under Start |
Control Panel | Folder Options Icon | View, or in Windows Explorer
| Tools | Folder Options | View.

Now do a search for

*.dbx

What do you find?
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"BKent1" wrote in message
...
My young son thought he could move the local folders file of
OUTLOOK EXPRESS 6 (all my folders)
into a new folder he creaed outside of Outlook express.

When he clicked on MOVE TO, instead of all the LOCAL folders
showing up in the new file,
the LOCAL FOLDERS (and all the 109 subfolders) disspeared .

8 years of business and personal files!!!

WOULD ANYONE KNOW HOW TO RETREIVE THE LOCAL FOLDER FILE???

KEN B in L.A.

Tip #1: Assuming your 8 years worth of mail is worth $27 to you, purchase
DBXpress (http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx) | Close OE
(IMPORTANT!) | Run DBXpress in "Extract from disk" mode | Recovered messages
(if any) can be dragged into any folder in your new (and empty) identity.

Tip #2: Take your machine to a local, reputable, and independent shop (i.e.,
not BigBoxStore USA or Geek Squad) and ask them to recover your database.

Tip #3: Password-protect your User Account and don't let your son know the
password.

Good luck.

General OE Caveats:

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Frequently perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working
offline". More at http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur, and do not attempt to
close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if Automatic Compacting
is taking place.

- Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
corruption (i.e., loss of messages) and provides no additional protection:

Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


BKent1 wrote:
My young son thought he could move the local folders file of OUTLOOK
EXPRESS 6 (all my folders)
into a new folder he creaed outside of Outlook express.

When he clicked on MOVE TO, instead of all the LOCAL folders showing up in
the new file,
the LOCAL FOLDERS (and all the 109 subfolders) disspeared .

8 years of business and personal files!!!

WOULD ANYONE KNOW HOW TO RETREIVE THE LOCAL FOLDER FILE???

KEN B in L.A.

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...
My young son thought he could move the local folders file of OUTLOOK
EXPRESS 6 (all my folders)
into a new folder he creaed outside of Outlook express.

When he clicked on MOVE TO, instead of all the LOCAL folders showing up in
the new file,
the LOCAL FOLDERS (and all the 109 subfolders) disspeared .

8 years of business and personal files!!!

WOULD ANYONE KNOW HOW TO RETREIVE THE LOCAL FOLDER FILE???

KEN B in L.A.