Can I expand a shape to get info on demand, similar to screen tip.

I want to attach additional information to shapes that could be viewed on
demand, e.g., by passing the mouse over the shape. Similar to a screen tip,
but I want more text than the screen tip will show.

On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:43:03 -0800, Lelon
wrote:

I want to attach additional information to shapes that could be viewed on
demand, e.g., by passing the mouse over the shape. Similar to a screen tip,
but I want more text than the screen tip will show.

Have a look at shape Custom Properties (called Shape Data) in Visio
2007, you can define what data you want and in what format. It can't
be displayed by a mouse hover event but in the shape's right-click
menu, and data can be embedded in fields in the shape.


--
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd
http://www.electronic-chip-packages.sandrila.co.uk/

Thanks for taking the time to reply. A good piece of info to know for the
future, but for my purpose it still didn't display a sufficient amount of
text.
I was originally just going to put the text in a comment block, but I want
to attach the comment to the shape so that it moves with it, and I can't
figure out how to do that, if it can be done.
Lelon

"Paul Herber" wrote:

On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:43:03 -0800, Lelon
wrote:

I want to attach additional information to shapes that could be viewed on
demand, e.g., by passing the mouse over the shape. Similar to a screen tip,
but I want more text than the screen tip will show.

Have a look at shape Custom Properties (called Shape Data) in Visio
2007, you can define what data you want and in what format. It can't
be displayed by a mouse hover event but in the shape's right-click
menu, and data can be embedded in fields in the shape.


--
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd
http://www.electronic-chip-packages.sandrila.co.uk/

On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 05:31:01 -0800, Lelon
wrote:

Thanks for taking the time to reply. A good piece of info to know for the
future, but for my purpose it still didn't display a sufficient amount of
text.
I was originally just going to put the text in a comment block, but I want
to attach the comment to the shape so that it moves with it, and I can't
figure out how to do that, if it can be done.

Group your two shapes, then in the menu Format - Behavoir change the
Selection and Group Data, you can now move the two shapes as a group
and edit the text of each individually. Bear in mind though that you
can also arrange the group to get exactly the opposite.



--
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.
Electronics for Visio http://www.electronics.sandrila.co.uk/

Thanks. That still doesn't attach the comment to the shape, though; if I
select a group of shapes and move them, the comment text boxes encompassed
within the selection do not move along with the shapes. I think what I want
to do can't be done. There doesn't seem to be any way to connect a comment
text box to a shape.
In any case, I appreciate your help.

"Paul Herber" wrote:

On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 05:31:01 -0800, Lelon
wrote:

Thanks for taking the time to reply. A good piece of info to know for the
future, but for my purpose it still didn't display a sufficient amount of
text.
I was originally just going to put the text in a comment block, but I want
to attach the comment to the shape so that it moves with it, and I can't
figure out how to do that, if it can be done.

Group your two shapes, then in the menu Format - Behavoir change the
Selection and Group Data, you can now move the two shapes as a group
and edit the text of each individually. Bear in mind though that you
can also arrange the group to get exactly the opposite.



--
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.
Electronics for Visio http://www.electronics.sandrila.co.uk/

The only other element in Visio that can appear on mouse over is Smart Tags.
You can have many Smart Tags on a shape.
I devote a chapter in my book to them....

"Lelon" wrote in message
news
Thanks. That still doesn't attach the comment to the shape, though; if I
select a group of shapes and move them, the comment text boxes encompassed
within the selection do not move along with the shapes. I think what I
want
to do can't be done. There doesn't seem to be any way to connect a
comment
text box to a shape.
In any case, I appreciate your help.

"Paul Herber" wrote:

On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 05:31:01 -0800, Lelon
wrote:

Thanks for taking the time to reply. A good piece of info to know for
the
future, but for my purpose it still didn't display a sufficient amount
of
text.
I was originally just going to put the text in a comment block, but I
want
to attach the comment to the shape so that it moves with it, and I can't
figure out how to do that, if it can be done.

Group your two shapes, then in the menu Format - Behavoir change the
Selection and Group Data, you can now move the two shapes as a group
and edit the text of each individually. Bear in mind though that you
can also arrange the group to get exactly the opposite.



--
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.
Electronics for Visio http://www.electronics.sandrila.co.uk/


--
David Parker
Microsoft MVP (Visio)
http://bvisual.spaces.live.com
http://www.visualizinginformation.com

On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:12:00 -0800, Lelon
wrote:

Thanks. That still doesn't attach the comment to the shape, though; if I
select a group of shapes and move them, the comment text boxes encompassed
within the selection do not move along with the shapes. I think what I want
to do can't be done. There doesn't seem to be any way to connect a comment
text box to a shape.

When you say, comment test box, which shape do you mean, what shape
name from which stencil? Or are you using the text box from the
toolbar?
Look in the Callouts stencil. These are comments that are designed to
connect to shapes.



--
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.
SSADM for Visio http://www.saadm.sandrila.co.uk/

By Comment Text Box, I mean the Comment box you get from the Insert Menu.
The problem with all of the callout text shapes (or other text shapes) for
my purpose is that they don't collapse the way a Comment box does (or at
least I haven't been able to find one that does). I was hoping to find a
shape that would expand and collapse on a mouse click so you can view the
information then hide it, the way you can with a Comment. The Comment does
what I want in this case EXCEPT that you can't select it as part of a group
of shapes so that it moves with them.

"Paul Herber" wrote:

On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:12:00 -0800, Lelon
wrote:

Thanks. That still doesn't attach the comment to the shape, though; if I
select a group of shapes and move them, the comment text boxes encompassed
within the selection do not move along with the shapes. I think what I want
to do can't be done. There doesn't seem to be any way to connect a comment
text box to a shape.

When you say, comment test box, which shape do you mean, what shape
name from which stencil? Or are you using the text box from the
toolbar?
Look in the Callouts stencil. These are comments that are designed to
connect to shapes.



--
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.
SSADM for Visio http://www.saadm.sandrila.co.uk/

It sounds like this is what I needed but I don't even have a Process
Engineering menu on my menu bar and can't find a reference to one, although
according to the help menu, that's where I would go to set Smart Tags up.

"David Parker" wrote:

The only other element in Visio that can appear on mouse over is Smart Tags.
You can have many Smart Tags on a shape.
I devote a chapter in my book to them....

"Lelon" wrote in message
news
Thanks. That still doesn't attach the comment to the shape, though; if I
select a group of shapes and move them, the comment text boxes encompassed
within the selection do not move along with the shapes. I think what I
want
to do can't be done. There doesn't seem to be any way to connect a
comment
text box to a shape.
In any case, I appreciate your help.

"Paul Herber" wrote:

On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 05:31:01 -0800, Lelon
wrote:

Thanks for taking the time to reply. A good piece of info to know for
the
future, but for my purpose it still didn't display a sufficient amount
of
text.
I was originally just going to put the text in a comment block, but I
want
to attach the comment to the shape so that it moves with it, and I can't
figure out how to do that, if it can be done.

Group your two shapes, then in the menu Format - Behavoir change the
Selection and Group Data, you can now move the two shapes as a group
and edit the text of each individually. Bear in mind though that you
can also arrange the group to get exactly the opposite.



--
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.
Electronics for Visio http://www.electronics.sandrila.co.uk/


--
David Parker
Microsoft MVP (Visio)
http://bvisual.spaces.live.com
http://www.visualizinginformation.com

Not true - Visio SmartTags are present in all Visio editions/versions since
Visio 2002 (I think).
Check the help again. SmartTags can be added into the ShapeSheet.

"Lelon" wrote in message
...
It sounds like this is what I needed but I don't even have a Process
Engineering menu on my menu bar and can't find a reference to one,
although
according to the help menu, that's where I would go to set Smart Tags up.

"David Parker" wrote:

The only other element in Visio that can appear on mouse over is Smart
Tags.
You can have many Smart Tags on a shape.
I devote a chapter in my book to them....

"Lelon" wrote in message
news
Thanks. That still doesn't attach the comment to the shape, though; if
I
select a group of shapes and move them, the comment text boxes
encompassed
within the selection do not move along with the shapes. I think what I
want
to do can't be done. There doesn't seem to be any way to connect a
comment
text box to a shape.
In any case, I appreciate your help.

"Paul Herber" wrote:

On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 05:31:01 -0800, Lelon
wrote:

Thanks for taking the time to reply. A good piece of info to know
for
the
future, but for my purpose it still didn't display a sufficient
amount
of
text.
I was originally just going to put the text in a comment block, but I
want
to attach the comment to the shape so that it moves with it, and I
can't
figure out how to do that, if it can be done.

Group your two shapes, then in the menu Format - Behavoir change the
Selection and Group Data, you can now move the two shapes as a group
and edit the text of each individually. Bear in mind though that you
can also arrange the group to get exactly the opposite.



--
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.
Electronics for Visio http://www.electronics.sandrila.co.uk/


--
David Parker
Microsoft MVP (Visio)
http://bvisual.spaces.live.com
http://www.visualizinginformation.com



--
David Parker
Microsoft MVP (Visio)
http://bvisual.spaces.live.com
http://www.visualizinginformation.com