Top Posting Protocol For Microsoft Software

Nonsense...

This is an...

Important...

Ongoing...

Issue...

That is still being worked out by...

Microsoft...and

Consumers.

Therefore...

It deserves...

Serious Discussions...

Not Petulant Dismissal.
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DSH
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"Peter Foldes" wrote in message
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Long time Troll and I did say so when he started posting again in the
beginning of last year

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Peter

"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
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Put the New Material at the TOP.

Saves time and effort for witting, alert, intelligent readers.



So you read a book from the bottom up?

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"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
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There is simply NO reason to force the alert, witting, intelligent reader
to slog through it all again.

That's twice you've used the word "witting". What does that mean?

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D. Spencer Hines wrote:

No...

You miss the point.

You missed the point.

The old material is down there for perusal by those who have not been
following the thread or who have poor memories -- OR who want to refresh
their memories -- OR who want to focus on a particular statement.

Then don't bother quoting the other posts. If you are going to force
the user to go hunting for the context of your reply, you might as well
as force them to go read the post to which you replied.

NO need to put all that baggage up front.

And there's no point in putting all that baggage at the end, either, if
you aren't going to provide context for your reply.

There is simply NO reason to force the alert, witting, intelligent reader to
slog through it all again.

Not everyone visits just one or two newsgroups as do you. Not everyone
merely reads those posts of interests. Not everyone only responds to
only one or two posts per day. Providing context means letting someone
regain the context of something that they aren't going to waste brain
cells to remember.

Microsoft had it right initially...

Since Microsoft did not invent Usenet and since Microsoft doesn't define
the RFCs for Usenet and since Microsoft was so very late an entrant to
Usenet that de facto standards already existed that Microsoft *chose* to
ignore does not make Microsoft right. It just made the spell checking
and prepend code easier to implement.

But CHOICE of Top or Bottom Posting for the dullards and taking it to the UI
rather than through Registry Changes was a reasonable action.

To that I will agree but then YOU must also realize that Microsoft would
have added the registry edits or UI config settings to select which
posting style to use unless Microsoft finally realized that they were
not correct and that they had failed in trying to rewrite the de facto
standards in long practice before Microsoft showed up in Usenet. They
got it wrong and then offered a choice of doing it the old way or doing
it their way.

Of course, you took the safest route to argue your point. You posted in
microsoft.public.* newsgroups where a large number of users of OE are
posting and are lazy by using the default posting style of OE,
uneducated regarding the registry hack, and too lazy to review the
config settings in WLM. Go post in a non-microsoft newsgroup to see how
well you far against the much larger non-Microsoft Usenet community in
your shortsighted arguments. Microsoft is not Usenet. In Usenet,
Microsoft has a small presence. If you want to proselytize your faith
and convictions, you don't preach to the choir. Go seek converts
outside the church. Be prepared for many tribulations on your quest.

Gordon wrote:

D. Spencer Hines wrote ...

Put the New Material at the TOP.

Saves time and effort for witting, alert, intelligent readers.

So you read a book from the bottom up?

Careful. Many that proselytize top-posting do flip to the couple of
pages of the last chapter. They're too lazy to provide context.
They're too lazy to snip. They're too lazy to maintain the same order
in the quoted posts as they use as their own posting style. They're not
just ignorant. They choose to be lazy. The Microsoft-cosm is the
entire realm of their computing and Usenet experience. To them, Unix is
probably a one-horned white horse or a poor bloke missing his balls.

"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
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No...

You miss the point.

The old material is down there for perusal by those who have not been
following the thread or who have poor memories -- OR who want to
refresh their memories -- OR who want to focus on a particular
statement.

NO need to put all that baggage up front.

There is simply NO reason to force the alert, witting, intelligent
reader to

What's a witting?

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Wisdom and experience come with age, they say, but I wish I could
remember the darn question

Sorry for the threadjack.

I am or rather was a long term Outhouse Distress user. I never knew
there were such registry hacks to select top/bottom post and/or signing.
I used OEQuotefix towards the end of that time, which gave me the
capability of bottom posting amongst other things, in particular plain
text formatting, where *text* would produce a bolding of the word text,
and /text/ , italic text. Think there were a couple of others too. Was
this also implemented but not broadcast in OE and WLM?

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remember the darn question

"VanguardLH" wrote in message
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To them, Unix is probably a one-horned white horse or a poor bloke missing
his balls.

ROTFL!


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"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
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I think it's definitely the Right Way To Go.

Put the New Material at the TOP.

Top- or bottom-posting is almost religious. Do you read your books
backward, starting at the last page and continuing to the first? No, you
need prior context to understand what comes after and that's what bottom
posting gives. The biggest flaw in bottom posting is that people don't trim
adequately to maintain a context yet keep the message size reasonable
(unlike me wink). That's an even bigger flaw in top posting: no one ever
trims anything. I install add-ins to both Outlook and my newsreader that
reformat the default top posting into a bottom post. Even were I to not use
these add-ins, I'd take the time to reformat manually to a bottom post.
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Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]