"Popping" Hotmail

Anyone else having issues getting Outlook Express to retrieve messages from
the Hotmail HTTP protocol servers out there on the Internet?

I use a couple of different "hotmail" accounts, but the one that I use most
frequently, and the one that I access directly from the MS Hotmail website,
does not seem to be "pushing" any new emails to my OE client.

Temporary or permanent, I am wondering.

On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:49:23 -0500, ng_reader wrote:

Anyone else having issues getting Outlook Express to retrieve messages from
the Hotmail HTTP protocol servers out there on the Internet?

I use a couple of different "hotmail" accounts, but the one that I use most
frequently, and the one that I access directly from the MS Hotmail website,
does not seem to be "pushing" any new emails to my OE client.

Temporary or permanent, I am wondering.

It is not possible to "push" email to a client, such as MS Outlook Express.
Such clients "pull" email from a server, depending upon the protocol. There
are three common protocols used to "pull" email: POP3, IMAP4, HTTPMail. Of
these, only Windows Live (formerly MSN) Hotmail and Lycos, UK (that I know
of) use HTTPMail.

With MS Outlook Express, HTTPMail uses something called, "WebDAV" for
synchronizing the account. The user must have set up a free Hotmail account
prior to Sept. 26, 2004, and used it with MSOE prior to that date to have
HTTPMail access. Otherwise the user must have a fee-based Hotmail Plus
account.

Some time last year, Windows Live had announced the end of WebDAV, which was
replaced by "DeltaSync" for the HTTPMail protocol. Then they relented, and
announced that it would continue for some unspecified period into this year.
I just tried sending an email, using the one free Hotmail account that still
works with MSOE.

Two observations:

1.) Windows Live will probably pull the plug on WebDAV at some point. This
will break MSOE access to Hotmail accounts.

2.) Hotmail has always been flaky about client access. I've had days where I
was unable to access my Hotmail account with MSOE for hours at a time. I
don't rely on my Hotmail accounts for anything; client access has never been
reliable.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

A1. Nope.

A2. Have you ever been able to access this particular account in OE?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

ng_reader wrote:
Anyone else having issues getting Outlook Express to retrieve messages
from
the Hotmail HTTP protocol servers out there on the Internet?

I use a couple of different "hotmail" accounts, but the one that I use
most
frequently, and the one that I access directly from the MS Hotmail
website,
does not seem to be "pushing" any new emails to my OE client.

Temporary or permanent, I am wondering.

This may turn up a second time, but yes, it has worked and is working again.

I made the "cutt-off"date on several accounts, and the multiple in-boxes
*has* to be what throws off OE.

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
A1. Nope.

A2. Have you ever been able to access this particular account in OE?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

ng_reader wrote:
Anyone else having issues getting Outlook Express to retrieve messages
from
the Hotmail HTTP protocol servers out there on the Internet?

I use a couple of different "hotmail" accounts, but the one that I use
most
frequently, and the one that I access directly from the MS Hotmail
website,
does not seem to be "pushing" any new emails to my OE client.

Temporary or permanent, I am wondering.

On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 10:01:59 -0500, ng_reader wrote:

I made the "cutt-off"date on several accounts, and the multiple in-boxes
*has* to be what throws off OE.

If you have multiple Hotmail Inboxes in a single MSOE Identity, you are
asking for trouble. In my experience, synchronization gets fouled up as MSOE
seems to mix up which account is connected to which Inbox. I have found, for
MSOE, that one Hotmail account per Identity works best.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

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ng_reader wrote:
This may turn up a second time, but yes, it has worked and is working
again.

I made the "cutt-off"date on several accounts, and the multiple in-boxes
*has* to be what throws off OE.

A1. Nope.

A2. Have you ever been able to access this particular account in OE?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

ng_reader wrote:
Anyone else having issues getting Outlook Express to retrieve messages
from
the Hotmail HTTP protocol servers out there on the Internet?

I use a couple of different "hotmail" accounts, but the one that I use
most
frequently, and the one that I access directly from the MS Hotmail
website,
does not seem to be "pushing" any new emails to my OE client.

Temporary or permanent, I am wondering.

"ng_reader" , haber iletisinde þunlarý
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Anyone else having issues getting Outlook Express to retrieve messages
from the Hotmail HTTP protocol servers out there on the Internet?

I use a couple of different "hotmail" accounts, but the one that I use
most frequently, and the one that I access directly from the MS Hotmail
website, does not seem to be "pushing" any new emails to my OE client.

Temporary or permanent, I am wondering.

OK. Done and done.

HTH? Me too.

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
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ng_reader wrote:
This may turn up a second time, but yes, it has worked and is working
again.

I made the "cutt-off"date on several accounts, and the multiple in-boxes
*has* to be what throws off OE.

A1. Nope.

A2. Have you ever been able to access this particular account in OE?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

ng_reader wrote:
Anyone else having issues getting Outlook Express to retrieve messages
from
the Hotmail HTTP protocol servers out there on the Internet?

I use a couple of different "hotmail" accounts, but the one that I use
most
frequently, and the one that I access directly from the MS Hotmail
website,
does not seem to be "pushing" any new emails to my OE client.

Temporary or permanent, I am wondering.

OK, Right now Outlook Express is downloading over 8000 messages from my
Comcast account into my "in-box".

Going to the comcast web-mail client, it's really less than 10.

That's never happened before......

Not complaining, just stating.


"ng_reader" wrote in message
...
OK. Done and done.

HTH? Me too.

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
IE Tools | Internet Options | Privacy | Sites: type...

live.com

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--
~PA Bear

ng_reader wrote:
This may turn up a second time, but yes, it has worked and is working
again.

I made the "cutt-off"date on several accounts, and the multiple in-boxes
*has* to be what throws off OE.

A1. Nope.

A2. Have you ever been able to access this particular account in OE?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

ng_reader wrote:
Anyone else having issues getting Outlook Express to retrieve messages
from
the Hotmail HTTP protocol servers out there on the Internet?

I use a couple of different "hotmail" accounts, but the one that I use
most
frequently, and the one that I access directly from the MS Hotmail
website,
does not seem to be "pushing" any new emails to my OE client.

Temporary or permanent, I am wondering.

How is what's downloading from from Comcast's mailserver related to the
problems you'd encountered accessing your free Hotmail account via HTTP
(WebDAV) in OE?

ng_reader wrote:
OK, Right now Outlook Express is downloading over 8000 messages from my
Comcast account into my "in-box".

Going to the comcast web-mail client, it's really less than 10.

That's never happened before......

Not complaining, just stating.


"ng_reader" wrote in message
...
OK. Done and done.

HTH? Me too.

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
IE Tools | Internet Options | Privacy | Sites: type...

live.com

...and Allow cookies for the domain.
--
~PA Bear

ng_reader wrote:
This may turn up a second time, but yes, it has worked and is working
again.

I made the "cutt-off"date on several accounts, and the multiple
in-boxes
*has* to be what throws off OE.

A1. Nope.

A2. Have you ever been able to access this particular account in OE?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

ng_reader wrote:
Anyone else having issues getting Outlook Express to retrieve
messages
from
the Hotmail HTTP protocol servers out there on the Internet?

I use a couple of different "hotmail" accounts, but the one that I
use
most
frequently, and the one that I access directly from the MS Hotmail
website,
does not seem to be "pushing" any new emails to my OE client.

Temporary or permanent, I am wondering.