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  #21  
Old April 7th, 2007, 09:43 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Stan Brown
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Default Another great example of how Word 2007 "brings commands closer to the surface"

Sat, 7 Apr 2007 11:48:03 -0500 from Beth Melton :
Commands on the QAT have automatic accelerators. Alt+1 accesses the first
command, Alt+2 accesses the next, and so on.


I gotta ask, how do you access the tenth and eleventh? :-)

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
  #22  
Old April 7th, 2007, 10:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Larry
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Default Another great example of how Word 2007 "brings commands closer to the surface"

Beth, since you were involved in feedback during the development process,
can you tell us why they also eliminated the Blue background option? Many
people liked that. I don't use it all the time, but I do like to use it
occasonally. What do they gain by eliminating it? Why not just leave it
there for the minority of people who like it and prefer it, who in many
cases need it because it's easier on the eyes?



"Beth Melton" wrote in message
...
I've been using Office 2007 for over 18 months and at first, like the
majority I hated it. I thought MS made a bad move, it was going to fail,

and
so on. I don't feel that way anymore. (Heh, you should have seen some of

my
"persuasive feedback" - the comments you've made are mild in comparison -
especially when it came to removing the ease in toolbar/menu

customization.
g).

But you know, even though I know how to customize the Ribbon it's really

not
necessary for me to customize it for my every day work. I have come up

with
alternate methods that fit my needs. For example I have several templates
that have a customized QAT with commands for specific tasks and I
load/unload them as global templates according the task at hand. (I still
have a complaint about the inability to float toolbars....)

After using the new interface I can now honestly see how it actually does
improve work flow and I can perform tasks in Word that used to take a half
hour or more in a few simple clicks. And it places capabilities that were
once used exclusively by power users into the hands of everyone. Plus

those
who were familiar with some of the advanced features will likely find them
easier to use. One quick example is AutoText. Previously you had to create

a
style and associate the entries with the style in order to create an
organized AutoText menu. Now it's a matter of creating what is now called

a
Building Blocks and assigning it to a gallery and a specific category

using
a dialog box. And there was difficulty remembering what you called them,

now
they are more visually oriented for insertion (and yes you can still

assign
keyboard shortcuts if you want).

Form development is another example. The ability to easily create bound
forms in Word has been a long standing request and that functionality is

now
available using Content Controls AND they automatically update without the
need to add extra steps or use a macro. Content Controls also resolve
another long standing request, to protect portions of a document for data
entry without losing spell check and other functionality.

Oh, and Styles have been lifted up and are easier for beginners to use.

Even
the basic beginner books are including how to use and modify styles. And
I've noticed many of the beginning Word books are encouraging users to use
formatted space between paragraphs instead of empty paragraphs due to the
new defaults. (Thank goodness!!)

BUT in order to fully see and understand these capabilities one can't be
resistant to change. That was my stumbling block for several months. I
wanted Word (and the other Office apps) to function as I was accustomed to
them functioning for over the last 15 years. To use the new versions
effectively it does require a bit of change, such as change how you may

have
previously accomplished a task but in the end it is faster and more
efficient. The key is if you want to embrace the change or fight the

change.
If you fight it then you'll hate it and find it lacking. If you embrace it
you may just find what I have found, that change can indeed be a "good
thing".

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email can not be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Co-author of Word 2007 Inside Out:
http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/boo...x#AboutTheBook

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/

"Larry" wrote in message
...


Beth,

You've opened my eyes. Now I understand the logic behind Microsoft's
destruction of Word. By the same logic by which the menus were
eliminated,
since the "majority" of users don't create custom toolbars and custom
menus,
MS just did away with them as well. Or at least made it much harder to
create and install them--I haven't figured this all out yet. In any

case,
the former beautiful feature by which you opened the Customize dialog

box
and could effortllessly create a new toolbar and give it a name put on

it
what you wanted seems to be gone.

Hey, folks, the "majority" of users also never create a macro, never

edit
a
macro, and never assign a custom keystroke to a macro or to a built-in
command. So, by MS's logic of only keeping features that "most" users
use,
how come MS didn't eliminate VBA, eliminate macro recording, eliminate
macros, eliminate the Macro dialog box, eliminate the VBA editing
interface,
and eliminate the Customize Keyboard dialog box???

The great thing about Word was that it had thousands of capabilities,

and
each user, depending on his interests, might only deal with a small part
of
them. So each person could in effect have his own "Word." But now

we've
moved away from such diversity toward a single uniformity. A single
"majority rule" determines what will be in Word. Only what the 90

percent
of users who are mediocre users will determine what is in Word.
Everything
that a more skilled and creative or just idiosyncratic user of Word

might
want to access is to be eliminated. That appears to be the logic.

The only thing that saves the situation from total disaster is that MS

has
not yet been completely consistent in its program of destruction, so it
has
still left some "non-popular" features in place.

Larry




  #23  
Old April 7th, 2007, 10:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Terry Farrell
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Default Another great example of how Word 2007 "brings commands closer to the surface"

I know the answer to that one: far too few users used it and it was actually
removed as a result of major coding issues. In other words, another feature
enhancement was in jeopardy because of the white text on blue background
legacy. So after extensive consultation, the decision was made to kill it
off.

Of course, you can sort of work around it with W2007 by creating a custom
Style Set based on your usual Style Set but with a blue background and fonts
set to white.

Terry

"Larry" wrote in message
...
Beth, since you were involved in feedback during the development process,
can you tell us why they also eliminated the Blue background option? Many
people liked that. I don't use it all the time, but I do like to use it
occasonally. What do they gain by eliminating it? Why not just leave it
there for the minority of people who like it and prefer it, who in many
cases need it because it's easier on the eyes?



"Beth Melton" wrote in message
...
I've been using Office 2007 for over 18 months and at first, like the
majority I hated it. I thought MS made a bad move, it was going to fail,

and
so on. I don't feel that way anymore. (Heh, you should have seen some of

my
"persuasive feedback" - the comments you've made are mild in
comparison -
especially when it came to removing the ease in toolbar/menu

customization.
g).

But you know, even though I know how to customize the Ribbon it's really

not
necessary for me to customize it for my every day work. I have come up

with
alternate methods that fit my needs. For example I have several templates
that have a customized QAT with commands for specific tasks and I
load/unload them as global templates according the task at hand. (I still
have a complaint about the inability to float toolbars....)

After using the new interface I can now honestly see how it actually does
improve work flow and I can perform tasks in Word that used to take a
half
hour or more in a few simple clicks. And it places capabilities that were
once used exclusively by power users into the hands of everyone. Plus

those
who were familiar with some of the advanced features will likely find
them
easier to use. One quick example is AutoText. Previously you had to
create

a
style and associate the entries with the style in order to create an
organized AutoText menu. Now it's a matter of creating what is now called

a
Building Blocks and assigning it to a gallery and a specific category

using
a dialog box. And there was difficulty remembering what you called them,

now
they are more visually oriented for insertion (and yes you can still

assign
keyboard shortcuts if you want).

Form development is another example. The ability to easily create bound
forms in Word has been a long standing request and that functionality is

now
available using Content Controls AND they automatically update without
the
need to add extra steps or use a macro. Content Controls also resolve
another long standing request, to protect portions of a document for data
entry without losing spell check and other functionality.

Oh, and Styles have been lifted up and are easier for beginners to use.

Even
the basic beginner books are including how to use and modify styles. And
I've noticed many of the beginning Word books are encouraging users to
use
formatted space between paragraphs instead of empty paragraphs due to the
new defaults. (Thank goodness!!)

BUT in order to fully see and understand these capabilities one can't be
resistant to change. That was my stumbling block for several months. I
wanted Word (and the other Office apps) to function as I was accustomed
to
them functioning for over the last 15 years. To use the new versions
effectively it does require a bit of change, such as change how you may

have
previously accomplished a task but in the end it is faster and more
efficient. The key is if you want to embrace the change or fight the

change.
If you fight it then you'll hate it and find it lacking. If you embrace
it
you may just find what I have found, that change can indeed be a "good
thing".

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email can not be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Co-author of Word 2007 Inside Out:
http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/boo...x#AboutTheBook

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/

"Larry" wrote in message
...


Beth,

You've opened my eyes. Now I understand the logic behind Microsoft's
destruction of Word. By the same logic by which the menus were
eliminated,
since the "majority" of users don't create custom toolbars and custom
menus,
MS just did away with them as well. Or at least made it much harder to
create and install them--I haven't figured this all out yet. In any

case,
the former beautiful feature by which you opened the Customize dialog

box
and could effortllessly create a new toolbar and give it a name put on

it
what you wanted seems to be gone.

Hey, folks, the "majority" of users also never create a macro, never

edit
a
macro, and never assign a custom keystroke to a macro or to a built-in
command. So, by MS's logic of only keeping features that "most" users
use,
how come MS didn't eliminate VBA, eliminate macro recording, eliminate
macros, eliminate the Macro dialog box, eliminate the VBA editing
interface,
and eliminate the Customize Keyboard dialog box???

The great thing about Word was that it had thousands of capabilities,

and
each user, depending on his interests, might only deal with a small
part
of
them. So each person could in effect have his own "Word." But now

we've
moved away from such diversity toward a single uniformity. A single
"majority rule" determines what will be in Word. Only what the 90

percent
of users who are mediocre users will determine what is in Word.
Everything
that a more skilled and creative or just idiosyncratic user of Word

might
want to access is to be eliminated. That appears to be the logic.

The only thing that saves the situation from total disaster is that MS

has
not yet been completely consistent in its program of destruction, so it
has
still left some "non-popular" features in place.

Larry





  #24  
Old April 7th, 2007, 10:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Terry Farrell
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Default Another great example of how Word 2007 "brings commands closer to the surface"

Stan

When the number of commands has reached 9, the next number is 09, 08...
until 01 where the next number becomes 0A, 0B... and so on.

--
Terry Farrell - MS Word MVP

"Stan Brown" wrote in message
t...
Sat, 7 Apr 2007 11:48:03 -0500 from Beth Melton :
Commands on the QAT have automatic accelerators. Alt+1 accesses the first
command, Alt+2 accesses the next, and so on.


I gotta ask, how do you access the tenth and eleventh? :-)

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/


  #25  
Old April 8th, 2007, 01:52 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Beth Melton
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Default Another great example of how Word 2007 "brings commands closer to the surface"

You don't necessarily need to go that far, you can use the Page Color and
the font will automatically change to a white text, provided you are using
theme colors, that is.

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email can not be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Co-author of Word 2007 Inside Out:
http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/boo...x#AboutTheBook

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/

"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...

Of course, you can sort of work around it with W2007 by creating a custom
Style Set based on your usual Style Set but with a blue background and
fonts set to white.

Terry



  #26  
Old April 8th, 2007, 03:41 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Albert Einstein
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Posts: 5
Default Another great example of how Word 2007 "brings commands closerto the surface"

Larry wrote:


Beth,

You've opened my eyes. Now I understand the logic behind Microsoft's
destruction of Word. By the same logic by which the menus were eliminated,
since the "majority" of users don't create custom toolbars and custom menus,
MS just did away with them as well. Or at least made it much harder to
create and install them--I haven't figured this all out yet. In any case,
the former beautiful feature by which you opened the Customize dialog box
and could effortllessly create a new toolbar and give it a name put on it
what you wanted seems to be gone.

Hey, folks, the "majority" of users also never create a macro, never edit a
macro, and never assign a custom keystroke to a macro or to a built-in
command. So, by MS's logic of only keeping features that "most" users use,
how come MS didn't eliminate VBA, eliminate macro recording, eliminate
macros, eliminate the Macro dialog box, eliminate the VBA editing interface,
and eliminate the Customize Keyboard dialog box???

The great thing about Word was that it had thousands of capabilities, and
each user, depending on his interests, might only deal with a small part of
them. So each person could in effect have his own "Word." But now we've
moved away from such diversity toward a single uniformity. A single
"majority rule" determines what will be in Word. Only what the 90 percent
of users who are mediocre users will determine what is in Word. Everything
that a more skilled and creative or just idiosyncratic user of Word might
want to access is to be eliminated. That appears to be the logic.

The only thing that saves the situation from total disaster is that MS has
not yet been completely consistent in its program of destruction, so it has
still left some "non-popular" features in place.



Now that Microsoft has abandoned you, WordPerfect welcomes you with open
arms.

You can customize WordPerfect to the point that not even Corel itself
would recognize it!
  #27  
Old April 8th, 2007, 03:57 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Albert Einstein
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Posts: 5
Default Another great example of how Word 2007 "brings commands closerto the surface"

Larry wrote:

Beth, since you were involved in feedback during the development process,
can you tell us why they also eliminated the Blue background option? Many
people liked that. I don't use it all the time, but I do like to use it
occasonally. What do they gain by eliminating it? Why not just leave it
there for the minority of people who like it and prefer it, who in many
cases need it because it's easier on the eyes?


WordPerfect versions 12 and X3 offer a nice blue background by selecting
"Classic Mode."
  #28  
Old April 8th, 2007, 05:26 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Beth Melton
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Default Another great example of how Word 2007 "brings commands closer to the surface"

I didn't say it took months, I was saying that I've spent over 18 months
using Office 2007 and feel as though I have an "educated" opinion of things.
I was very opinionated about a few things, just as most who have only
scratched the surface, but then I realized I was viewing things as I viewed
my switch from WP 5.0 to Word, or WordBasic to Visual Basic. It was then I
decided to hold off forming an opinion on various matters until I gained
more insight. There are still things I don't like but there were things I
didn't like in the older versions as well.

To be perfectly honest, I think I could type until my fingers are blue, as
opposed to talking until I'm blue in the face (g), and it won't make a bit
of difference. Those who want to view the change with an open mind will,
those who don't, won't. It's like trying to tell convince a hard-core WP
user
of the benefits of Word. ;-)

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email can not be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Co-author of Word 2007 Inside Out:
http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/boo...x#AboutTheBook

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/

"Larry" wrote in message
...

Beth,

What you're saying is that you had to spend months of your life completely
re-learning and re-customizing Word to your needs, with the previous 15
years you had spent learning Word being lost, all for the benefit of some
marginal improvements in the efficiency of some tasks.

Second, the improvements you mention did NOT require the total redesign of
the interface. For example, you write:

Plus those who were familiar with some of the advanced features will

likely find them
easier to use. One quick example is AutoText. Previously you had to create
a
style and associate the entries with the style in order to create an
organized AutoText menu. Now it's a matter of creating what is now called
a
Building Blocks and assigning it to a gallery and a specific category
using
a dialog box.

Well, AutoText could have been changed without, e.g., getting rid of
Toolbars and menus!

Similarly, greater ease of use in learning Styles did not require a
radically revamped Word. It just required that the Styles feature itself
be
changed.

I have nothing against MS adding new features to Word. But to destroy the
basic user interface of Word and basic features and capabilities that
millions of people have invested many years of work in, and replace it
with
another, is just wrong.




"Beth Melton" wrote in message
...
I've been using Office 2007 for over 18 months and at first, like the
majority I hated it. I thought MS made a bad move, it was going to fail,

and
so on. I don't feel that way anymore. (Heh, you should have seen some of

my
"persuasive feedback" - the comments you've made are mild in
comparison -
especially when it came to removing the ease in toolbar/menu

customization.
g).

But you know, even though I know how to customize the Ribbon it's really

not
necessary for me to customize it for my every day work. I have come up

with
alternate methods that fit my needs. For example I have several templates
that have a customized QAT with commands for specific tasks and I
load/unload them as global templates according the task at hand. (I still
have a complaint about the inability to float toolbars....)

After using the new interface I can now honestly see how it actually does
improve work flow and I can perform tasks in Word that used to take a
half
hour or more in a few simple clicks. And it places capabilities that were
once used exclusively by power users into the hands of everyone. Plus

those
who were familiar with some of the advanced features will likely find
them
easier to use. One quick example is AutoText. Previously you had to
create

a
style and associate the entries with the style in order to create an
organized AutoText menu. Now it's a matter of creating what is now called

a
Building Blocks and assigning it to a gallery and a specific category

using
a dialog box. And there was difficulty remembering what you called them,

now
they are more visually oriented for insertion (and yes you can still

assign
keyboard shortcuts if you want).

Form development is another example. The ability to easily create bound
forms in Word has been a long standing request and that functionality is

now
available using Content Controls AND they automatically update without
the
need to add extra steps or use a macro. Content Controls also resolve
another long standing request, to protect portions of a document for data
entry without losing spell check and other functionality.

Oh, and Styles have been lifted up and are easier for beginners to use.

Even
the basic beginner books are including how to use and modify styles. And
I've noticed many of the beginning Word books are encouraging users to
use
formatted space between paragraphs instead of empty paragraphs due to the
new defaults. (Thank goodness!!)

BUT in order to fully see and understand these capabilities one can't be
resistant to change. That was my stumbling block for several months. I
wanted Word (and the other Office apps) to function as I was accustomed
to
them functioning for over the last 15 years. To use the new versions
effectively it does require a bit of change, such as change how you may

have
previously accomplished a task but in the end it is faster and more
efficient. The key is if you want to embrace the change or fight the

change.
If you fight it then you'll hate it and find it lacking. If you embrace
it
you may just find what I have found, that change can indeed be a "good
thing".

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email can not be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Co-author of Word 2007 Inside Out:
http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/boo...x#AboutTheBook

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/

"Larry" wrote in message
...


Beth,

You've opened my eyes. Now I understand the logic behind Microsoft's
destruction of Word. By the same logic by which the menus were
eliminated,
since the "majority" of users don't create custom toolbars and custom
menus,
MS just did away with them as well. Or at least made it much harder to
create and install them--I haven't figured this all out yet. In any

case,
the former beautiful feature by which you opened the Customize dialog

box
and could effortllessly create a new toolbar and give it a name put on

it
what you wanted seems to be gone.

Hey, folks, the "majority" of users also never create a macro, never

edit
a
macro, and never assign a custom keystroke to a macro or to a built-in
command. So, by MS's logic of only keeping features that "most" users
use,
how come MS didn't eliminate VBA, eliminate macro recording, eliminate
macros, eliminate the Macro dialog box, eliminate the VBA editing
interface,
and eliminate the Customize Keyboard dialog box???

The great thing about Word was that it had thousands of capabilities,

and
each user, depending on his interests, might only deal with a small
part
of
them. So each person could in effect have his own "Word." But now

we've
moved away from such diversity toward a single uniformity. A single
"majority rule" determines what will be in Word. Only what the 90

percent
of users who are mediocre users will determine what is in Word.
Everything
that a more skilled and creative or just idiosyncratic user of Word

might
want to access is to be eliminated. That appears to be the logic.

The only thing that saves the situation from total disaster is that MS

has
not yet been completely consistent in its program of destruction, so it
has
still left some "non-popular" features in place.

Larry







  #29  
Old April 8th, 2007, 07:25 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Beth Melton
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Default Another great example of how Word 2007 "brings commands closer to the surface"

If you remember the old UI navigation those commands are still available if
you want to use them. For example Alt+T+O opens Word Options.

Oh, and the change to the User Templates location, the removal of the view
of the path, was back in Word 2002 - that's not new.

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email can not be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Co-author of Word 2007 Inside Out:
http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/boo...x#AboutTheBook

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/

"Larry" wrote in message
...
Well, that's good news, except that the user would have to remember, which
is the third command on the TAC, which is the fourth, etc. That's not as
easy to use as the regular menu (which MS has taken away) where it's
effortless to remember that Alt+V opens the View menu, Alt+I opens the
Insert menu, and so on.

An additional problem, but just for me, is that I already have Alt+1,
Alt+2,
etc. assigned to important macros that I use constantly to assign styles.

MS says 2007 is more "intuitive." This is the biggest of Big Lies. The
sheer complexity of the Ribbon, its constantly changing, bewildering
appearance, creates an informational overload on the user. The hiding
away
of various dialog boxes—which used to be two instant steps from the Word
surface—in completely illogical, arbitrary locations is the very opposite
of
intuitive or logical or even minimally considerate to the user. For
example, folks, try to find the User Template default path. You can find
it
(though you will probably need Help in order to do so), but once you've
found it, see how much harder it is to get to than it used to be, and how
senseless and arbitrary its location is.

Finally, when you do get there, notice that it will not actually tell you
what the current template default path is. In Word 97, you get a
"compressed" view of the path, but if you click on the Modify button the
complete path is displayed. Nice and simple. One might even call it
intuitive. Not so with Word 2007, the "easier," "more intuitive" version
of
Word! In Word 2007, when you click on Modify, the Template path is NOT
displayed and there's no way to get it. Instead, a folder opens with some
kind of complicated Explorer type view which does not actually display the
default Template path but something else (I couldn't figure it out at
all).
So I had to keep searching and it took me about 10 minutes last night just
to find the Templates folder for Word 2007 in Windows Vista.

What is called a more "intuitive" version of Word is actually a bloated
bureaucratic monstrosity.



  #30  
Old April 8th, 2007, 07:26 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.newusers
Beth Melton
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Default Another great example of how Word 2007 "brings commands closer to the surface"

Also, you'll see the accelerators if you press the Alt key in the KeyTips.

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email can not be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Co-author of Word 2007 Inside Out:
http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/boo...x#AboutTheBook

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/

"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...
Stan

When the number of commands has reached 9, the next number is 09, 08...
until 01 where the next number becomes 0A, 0B... and so on.

--
Terry Farrell - MS Word MVP

"Stan Brown" wrote in message
t...
Sat, 7 Apr 2007 11:48:03 -0500 from Beth Melton :
Commands on the QAT have automatic accelerators. Alt+1 accesses the
first
command, Alt+2 accesses the next, and so on.


I gotta ask, how do you access the tenth and eleventh? :-)

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Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/




 




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