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Old June 14th, 2005, 08:00 AM
Amedee Van Gasse
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Suzanne S. Barnhill shared this with us in
microsoft.public.word.newusers:

My impression, though, was that most of the incivility here was
coming in by way of Usenet and almost certainly from the orphaned
(and deprecated) microsoft.public.word.general. By "here" I meant "in
this thread," but when I switched to "Show All Messages," I was
surprised to discover that "this thread" was not the one I thought it
was, but the comment still applies: note that none of the
participants are @discussions.com.


Indeed, you ARE correct!
In this case... for every rule there are exceptions.

My personal observation is that in most other cases the incivility
comes from "relatively new" users (more than 1 year but less than 5
years of internet usage), and there is a higher probability for a "new
user" to be on a forum, not on usenet.

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Old June 14th, 2005, 02:43 PM
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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I'm not so sure. The new users who come in via the forums may be ignorant of
Netiquette and totally clueless about how to ask questions, and they are
often very frustrated with Word by the time they arrive here, but for the
most part they are fairly timid and don't become generally abusive (if only
because they have so much trouble finding a specific thread again that they
don't hang around long enough). Where I see the highest level of incivility
is in threads in which the Word NGs are infected by cross-posting to NGs in
other product areas (where the level of civility is evidently not as high)
and especially to actual Usenet NGs (ones not on the msnews server), where a
more rough-and-ready posting style apparently obtains.

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Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"Amedee Van Gasse" wrote in message
...
Suzanne S. Barnhill shared this with us in
microsoft.public.word.newusers:

My impression, though, was that most of the incivility here was
coming in by way of Usenet and almost certainly from the orphaned
(and deprecated) microsoft.public.word.general. By "here" I meant "in
this thread," but when I switched to "Show All Messages," I was
surprised to discover that "this thread" was not the one I thought it
was, but the comment still applies: note that none of the
participants are @discussions.com.


Indeed, you ARE correct!
In this case... for every rule there are exceptions.

My personal observation is that in most other cases the incivility
comes from "relatively new" users (more than 1 year but less than 5
years of internet usage), and there is a higher probability for a "new
user" to be on a forum, not on usenet.

--
Amedee Van Gasse


  #33  
Old June 14th, 2005, 04:14 PM
Amedee Van Gasse
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Suzanne S. Barnhill shared this with us in
microsoft.public.word.newusers:

especially to actual Usenet NGs (ones not on the msnews
server), where a more rough-and-ready posting style apparently
obtains.


You mean a "hit-and-run" posting style.
At home I have my default "don't feed this troll" message, with some
nice ASCII art. ;-)

Anyway your observation may be right in the case of the Microsoft
newsgroups.
Forum users over here may be ignorant and clueless (some, not all) but
don't stick around, because of the specific nature and sheer volume of
messages.

On the other hand, I have seen other forums (like the user forum of my
ISP) where the opposite is true: the newbies do stick around, and the
worst part of the year is when high school and college students have
their exams (=now). One might wonder if they shouldn't study...

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Amedee Van Gasse
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Old June 14th, 2005, 06:17 PM
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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We have had a number of obviously student-type (or student-age) posters in
some of these NGs for a time. Even when they aren't rude, arrogant
know-it-alls, they often "helpfully" post dozens of inaccurate, incomplete,
or just plain wrong answers before they move on. Aside from posting the
correct answer in parallel, about all you can do is hold your breath and
bite your tongue till they move on.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Amedee Van Gasse" wrote in message
...
Suzanne S. Barnhill shared this with us in
microsoft.public.word.newusers:

especially to actual Usenet NGs (ones not on the msnews
server), where a more rough-and-ready posting style apparently
obtains.


You mean a "hit-and-run" posting style.
At home I have my default "don't feed this troll" message, with some
nice ASCII art. ;-)

Anyway your observation may be right in the case of the Microsoft
newsgroups.
Forum users over here may be ignorant and clueless (some, not all) but
don't stick around, because of the specific nature and sheer volume of
messages.

On the other hand, I have seen other forums (like the user forum of my
ISP) where the opposite is true: the newbies do stick around, and the
worst part of the year is when high school and college students have
their exams (=now). One might wonder if they shouldn't study...

--
Amedee Van Gasse


 




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