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Old May 10th, 2010, 03:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.forms
PHisaw
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Default Quote Form With Options - Repost


It seems my original thread of 4/29/10 "Quote Form with Options" has been
forgotten. Tom van Stiphout was helping and gave me the instructions for a
button to ""Create New
Option". It would look at the maximum option used so far (DMax
function) and add 1 to it.
When the button is clicked, you save the JobNumber information and
perhaps some other key information, go to a new record, populate the
JobNumber with the saved value, and set the Option field to whatever
DMax(...)+1 returns."

I have researched and tried several methods of code, but can't seem to get
anything to work other than the option field increasing in number. This is
currently what I have which throws an error message "can't go to specified
record" and highlights the GoToRecord,,acNewRec line. I think it has
something to do with the job number, but can't figure out how to correct it.

Private Sub LblQuoteOptions_Click()

DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSave
DoCmd.GoToRecord , , acNewRec
Me.JobNumber.DefaultValue = """" & Me.JobNumber.Value & """"
Me.Option = Nz(DMax("Option", "tquotemainform"), 0) + 1

End Sub


Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thank in advance,
Pam

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Old May 10th, 2010, 03:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.forms
BruceM via AccessMonster.com
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Default Quote Form With Options - Repost

I don't know what exactly was in the original string, but I see a few things
in the code you posted.

I'm not sure what this line of code is supposed to do:

Me.JobNumber.DefaultValue = """" & Me.JobNumber.Value & """"

For clarity in posting and in reading the code, I suggest naming the text box
differently from the field to which it is bound. For instance, the text box
could be txtJobNumber.

However, that is probably unrelated to the problem with this line. It seems
the Default Value of JobNumber is the value of Job Number, which is circular.
Also, the quotes are not necessary, and may be doing some harm. From your
posting, you are trying to carry JobNumber from the previous record to the
new record. Why is that? Is this code in a subform? If so, and if
JobNumber is the linking field between the main form and subform tables, it
needs to be the Link Child and Link Master properties of the subform control
(the "box" containing the subform).

One problem with the next line may be that Option is a reserved word. For
more about reserved words:
http://www.allenbrowne.com/Ap****ueBadWord.html

Option should not be used as a name, but if it is used it should be in square
brackets, and it probably should be the DefaultValue, or else it will change
whenever the code is run. You can't rely on users not clicking a "dangerous"
button:
Me.txtOption.DefaultValue = Nz(DMax("[Option]", "tquotemainform"), 0) + 1

Is tquotemainform a table?

PHisaw wrote:
It seems my original thread of 4/29/10 "Quote Form with Options" has been
forgotten. Tom van Stiphout was helping and gave me the instructions for a
button to ""Create New
Option". It would look at the maximum option used so far (DMax
function) and add 1 to it.
When the button is clicked, you save the JobNumber information and
perhaps some other key information, go to a new record, populate the
JobNumber with the saved value, and set the Option field to whatever
DMax(...)+1 returns."

I have researched and tried several methods of code, but can't seem to get
anything to work other than the option field increasing in number. This is
currently what I have which throws an error message "can't go to specified
record" and highlights the GoToRecord,,acNewRec line. I think it has
something to do with the job number, but can't figure out how to correct it.

Private Sub LblQuoteOptions_Click()

DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSave
DoCmd.GoToRecord , , acNewRec
Me.JobNumber.DefaultValue = """" & Me.JobNumber.Value & """"
Me.Option = Nz(DMax("Option", "tquotemainform"), 0) + 1

End Sub

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thank in advance,
Pam


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Old May 10th, 2010, 03:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.forms
Al Campagna[_2_]
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Default Quote Form With Options - Repost

PHisaw,
It appears as though you also had a new "re-post" dealing with this
issue
on April 30th @ 3:17PM
"Multiple quotes for same job number using option buttons"
John Vinson replied to that... with no reply from you, as yet.

Please be sure your up to snuff on all your replies... and... if this is
another post dealing with primarily the same issue... please
return to any old ones, and let folks know that you're re-posting.
Thanks...
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Al Campagna
Microsoft Access MVP 2007-2009
http://home.comcast.net/~cccsolutions/index.html

"Find a job that you love... and you'll never work a day in your life."


"PHisaw" wrote in message
...

It seems my original thread of 4/29/10 "Quote Form with Options" has been
forgotten. Tom van Stiphout was helping and gave me the instructions for
a
button to ""Create New
Option". It would look at the maximum option used so far (DMax
function) and add 1 to it.
When the button is clicked, you save the JobNumber information and
perhaps some other key information, go to a new record, populate the
JobNumber with the saved value, and set the Option field to whatever
DMax(...)+1 returns."

I have researched and tried several methods of code, but can't seem to get
anything to work other than the option field increasing in number. This
is
currently what I have which throws an error message "can't go to specified
record" and highlights the GoToRecord,,acNewRec line. I think it has
something to do with the job number, but can't figure out how to correct
it.

Private Sub LblQuoteOptions_Click()

DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSave
DoCmd.GoToRecord , , acNewRec
Me.JobNumber.DefaultValue = """" & Me.JobNumber.Value & """"
Me.Option = Nz(DMax("Option", "tquotemainform"), 0) + 1

End Sub


Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thank in advance,
Pam



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Old May 10th, 2010, 04:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.forms
PHisaw
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Posts: 224
Default Quote Form With Options - Repost

Bruce,

Thank you for replying. Per your message,

I'm not sure what this line of code is supposed to do:

Me.JobNumber.DefaultValue = """" & Me.JobNumber.Value & """"


In researching on how to save field info and then repopulate field with
saved info from previous record, this line of code is what I came across, but
obviously it isn't working.
Users have requested the ability to have more than one quote option for the
same job number. Tom's suggestion was to have the main table relate to the
subforms with JobNumber and Option fields - both PK's. Then a button on the
main form that would save the job number from the previous record, insert it
in the new record (new option, same job number) and increase the option by 1
based on last option number.
I have a main quote table, tquotemainform, which supplies frepairquotemain
form. On it are several subforms - labor, parts, and misc parts and all are
related by JobNumber (autonumber and PK) and now by Option (also a PK - I'll
change the name to something other than the reserved word).
John Vinson responded that it may be the jobnumber in the related table. I
asked how I could go about resolving the problem, but received no response.
I just need to know if this is acutally possible as in example below with
both fields being PKs.

JobNumber Option
9549 1
9549 2
9550 1
9551 1
9551 2

Again, thanks for your help.
Pam

"BruceM via AccessMonster.com" wrote:

I don't know what exactly was in the original string, but I see a few things
in the code you posted.

I'm not sure what this line of code is supposed to do:

Me.JobNumber.DefaultValue = """" & Me.JobNumber.Value & """"

For clarity in posting and in reading the code, I suggest naming the text box
differently from the field to which it is bound. For instance, the text box
could be txtJobNumber.

However, that is probably unrelated to the problem with this line. It seems
the Default Value of JobNumber is the value of Job Number, which is circular.
Also, the quotes are not necessary, and may be doing some harm. From your
posting, you are trying to carry JobNumber from the previous record to the
new record. Why is that? Is this code in a subform? If so, and if
JobNumber is the linking field between the main form and subform tables, it
needs to be the Link Child and Link Master properties of the subform control
(the "box" containing the subform).

One problem with the next line may be that Option is a reserved word. For
more about reserved words:
http://www.allenbrowne.com/Ap****ueBadWord.html

Option should not be used as a name, but if it is used it should be in square
brackets, and it probably should be the DefaultValue, or else it will change
whenever the code is run. You can't rely on users not clicking a "dangerous"
button:
Me.txtOption.DefaultValue = Nz(DMax("[Option]", "tquotemainform"), 0) + 1

Is tquotemainform a table?

PHisaw wrote:
It seems my original thread of 4/29/10 "Quote Form with Options" has been
forgotten. Tom van Stiphout was helping and gave me the instructions for a
button to ""Create New
Option". It would look at the maximum option used so far (DMax
function) and add 1 to it.
When the button is clicked, you save the JobNumber information and
perhaps some other key information, go to a new record, populate the
JobNumber with the saved value, and set the Option field to whatever
DMax(...)+1 returns."

I have researched and tried several methods of code, but can't seem to get
anything to work other than the option field increasing in number. This is
currently what I have which throws an error message "can't go to specified
record" and highlights the GoToRecord,,acNewRec line. I think it has
something to do with the job number, but can't figure out how to correct it.

Private Sub LblQuoteOptions_Click()

DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSave
DoCmd.GoToRecord , , acNewRec
Me.JobNumber.DefaultValue = """" & Me.JobNumber.Value & """"
Me.Option = Nz(DMax("Option", "tquotemainform"), 0) + 1

End Sub

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thank in advance,
Pam


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Old May 10th, 2010, 05:57 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.forms
BruceM via AccessMonster.com
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Default Quote Form With Options - Repost

If a job may have several quotes, quote information should be in a related
table:

tblJob
JobID (primary key, or PK; could be the job number)
Customer
etc.

tblQuote
QuoteID (PK)
JobID (related to JobID in tblJob)
other Quote fields as needed

Establish the relationship between tblJob and tblQuote in the Relationships
window. Build a main form based on tblJob, with a subform based on tblQuote.
Set the Link Child and Link Master properties of the subfoirm control to
JobID.

It may seem like semantics, but I doubt Tom would have suggested "to have the
main table relate to the subforms with JobNumber and Option fields". Tables
relate to other tables, so I expect his reference to relationships was about
relating one table to another. The subforms may be based on the related
tables, but we can't see your database, so can only infer how it is
constructed.

Any discussion of this sort needs to start with the table structure, which
depends on the real-world situation behind the database. What is the
database supposed to do?

PHisaw wrote:
Bruce,

Thank you for replying. Per your message,

I'm not sure what this line of code is supposed to do:

Me.JobNumber.DefaultValue = """" & Me.JobNumber.Value & """"


In researching on how to save field info and then repopulate field with
saved info from previous record, this line of code is what I came across, but
obviously it isn't working.
Users have requested the ability to have more than one quote option for the
same job number. Tom's suggestion was to have the main table relate to the
subforms with JobNumber and Option fields - both PK's. Then a button on the
main form that would save the job number from the previous record, insert it
in the new record (new option, same job number) and increase the option by 1
based on last option number.
I have a main quote table, tquotemainform, which supplies frepairquotemain
form. On it are several subforms - labor, parts, and misc parts and all are
related by JobNumber (autonumber and PK) and now by Option (also a PK - I'll
change the name to something other than the reserved word).
John Vinson responded that it may be the jobnumber in the related table. I
asked how I could go about resolving the problem, but received no response.
I just need to know if this is acutally possible as in example below with
both fields being PKs.

JobNumber Option
9549 1
9549 2
9550 1
9551 1
9551 2

Again, thanks for your help.
Pam

I don't know what exactly was in the original string, but I see a few things
in the code you posted.

[quoted text clipped - 56 lines]
Thank in advance,
Pam


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Old May 10th, 2010, 07:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.forms
PHisaw
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Posts: 224
Default Quote Form With Options - Repost

Bruce,

I already have a main table that holds all job info, tgeninfo, and is
related to the main quote table, tmainquoteform, in the relationship window.
I have a form for all the general information based on tgeninfo and a button
when clicked takes user to the main form for quotes, frepairquotemainform,
which includes the subforms for labor, parts and misc parts. These subforms
are backed by tables for each that are related in a 1:M relationship in the
relationship window also. I really don't want a subform of the main quote
that contains other subforms on the main form for the general information.
The subforms are linked with Master and Child fields to the main quote form
by JobNumber and Option. In my previous message, it was an error on my part
when I stated Tom suggested relating the main table to the subforms. I meant
the main form to the subforms. Here is his original suggestion which I hope
will shed more light on what I wish to accomplish.

"In the database design you have tables like
LaborItemsForQuote(LaborItemID, QuoteID, ...), PartsForQuote (PartID,
QuoteID, Qty, ...), etc. They are currently related 1:M (shorthand for
one-to-many) to the main Quotes table via the QuoteID field or some
such. Since we have changed the main table to have a 2-field primary
key, that will have to change: QuoteID + Option will be the foreign
key in each of those related tables, and you need to update the
Relationships window. Don't forget to check the box to Enforce the
relationships."

I've set my tables as such, but I cannot figure the code needed as he
suggested to save the field info from the previous record, apply it to the
same field for the new record and increase the option number based on the
last one used.

Does any of this help explain what I want db to do? If not, I may have to
move on to creating basically duplicate forms, queries and tables and
limiting users to only 1, maybe 2, additional options which would seem
redundant and more bloat to the db.

Thanks,
Pam

"BruceM via AccessMonster.com" wrote:

If a job may have several quotes, quote information should be in a related
table:

tblJob
JobID (primary key, or PK; could be the job number)
Customer
etc.

tblQuote
QuoteID (PK)
JobID (related to JobID in tblJob)
other Quote fields as needed

Establish the relationship between tblJob and tblQuote in the Relationships
window. Build a main form based on tblJob, with a subform based on tblQuote.
Set the Link Child and Link Master properties of the subfoirm control to
JobID.

It may seem like semantics, but I doubt Tom would have suggested "to have the
main table relate to the subforms with JobNumber and Option fields". Tables
relate to other tables, so I expect his reference to relationships was about
relating one table to another. The subforms may be based on the related
tables, but we can't see your database, so can only infer how it is
constructed.

Any discussion of this sort needs to start with the table structure, which
depends on the real-world situation behind the database. What is the
database supposed to do?

PHisaw wrote:
Bruce,

Thank you for replying. Per your message,

I'm not sure what this line of code is supposed to do:

Me.JobNumber.DefaultValue = """" & Me.JobNumber.Value & """"


In researching on how to save field info and then repopulate field with
saved info from previous record, this line of code is what I came across, but
obviously it isn't working.
Users have requested the ability to have more than one quote option for the
same job number. Tom's suggestion was to have the main table relate to the
subforms with JobNumber and Option fields - both PK's. Then a button on the
main form that would save the job number from the previous record, insert it
in the new record (new option, same job number) and increase the option by 1
based on last option number.
I have a main quote table, tquotemainform, which supplies frepairquotemain
form. On it are several subforms - labor, parts, and misc parts and all are
related by JobNumber (autonumber and PK) and now by Option (also a PK - I'll
change the name to something other than the reserved word).
John Vinson responded that it may be the jobnumber in the related table. I
asked how I could go about resolving the problem, but received no response.
I just need to know if this is acutally possible as in example below with
both fields being PKs.

JobNumber Option
9549 1
9549 2
9550 1
9551 1
9551 2

Again, thanks for your help.
Pam

I don't know what exactly was in the original string, but I see a few things
in the code you posted.

[quoted text clipped - 56 lines]
Thank in advance,
Pam


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