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How to find Symbols
I use a lot of symbols in text (Word 2000): I insert them
by using InsertSymbol and then selecting the desired symbol in the grid and then pressing Insert again. Is there a way to find or search these symbols? I find this way of inserting symbols very convenient, however, Symbols inserted this way still show the basic text font (i.e., for eg, Times New Roman), whereas symbols inserted by typing a character and then changing Font to "Symbol" makes it easy to Find these symbols, but I need to know beforehand which chacter represents which symbol, which is not very convenient. Vijay |
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Hi Vijay,
You can copy/paste the symbol into "Find what" (Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V). Word versions before Word2003 have several bugs and problems finding symbols. If you select some symbol or regular Unicode character and run the macro below, it should stop at the next identical character (same code, same font) in any Word version ... but I only tested it in Word2002/2003. To find any symbol (non-Unicode) character, you can use a wildcard search for .Text = "[" & ChrW(&HF021) & "-" & ChrW(&HF0FF) & "]" This works because Word uses codes between U+F021 and U+F0FF for "decorative"/symbol fonts. Word2000 and 2002 have problems if you want to search for the font that was used... Therefore the macro uses the "Insert Symbol" dialog to get the font. You can also google for some macros I posted (SymbolsUnprotect, SymbolsProtect) that turn all protected symbols inserted from the dialog into "regular" unprotected symbols -- showing the symbol font --, and vice versa. Regards, Klaus Dim myFont As String Dim myCharNum As Long With Dialogs(wdDialogInsertSymbol) myFont = .Font myCharNum = .CharNum And &HFFFF& End With ' If regular (Unicode) font: If Left(myFont, 1) = "(" Then myFont = Selection.Font.Name End If Selection.Find.ClearFormatting Selection.Find.Replacement.ClearFormatting With Selection.Find .Text = ChrW(myCharNum) .Forward = True .Wrap = wdFindContinue .Format = False .MatchCase = True .MatchWildcards = False End With While Selection.Find.Execute ' Stop if same symbol font or current style's font Select Case Dialogs(wdDialogInsertSymbol).Font Case myFont Exit Sub Case Else If Left(Dialogs(wdDialogInsertSymbol).Font, 1) = "(" _ And Selection.Font.Name = myFont Then Exit Sub End If End Select Wend "Vijay J." wrote: I use a lot of symbols in text (Word 2000): I insert them by using InsertSymbol and then selecting the desired symbol in the grid and then pressing Insert again. Is there a way to find or search these symbols? I find this way of inserting symbols very convenient, however, Symbols inserted this way still show the basic text font (i.e., for eg, Times New Roman), whereas symbols inserted by typing a character and then changing Font to "Symbol" makes it easy to Find these symbols, but I need to know beforehand which chacter represents which symbol, which is not very convenient. Vijay |
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Hi Vijay,
You can copy/paste the symbol into "Find what" (Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V). Word versions before Word2003 have several bugs and problems finding symbols. If you select some symbol or regular Unicode character and run the macro below, it should stop at the next identical character (same code, same font) in any Word version ... but I only tested it in Word2002/2003. To find any symbol (non-Unicode) character, you can use a wildcard search for .Text = "[" & ChrW(&HF021) & "-" & ChrW(&HF0FF) & "]" This works because Word uses codes between U+F021 and U+F0FF for "decorative"/symbol fonts. Word2000 and 2002 have problems if you want to search for the font that was used... Therefore the macro uses the "Insert Symbol" dialog to get the font. You can also google for some macros I posted (SymbolsUnprotect, SymbolsProtect) that turn all protected symbols inserted from the dialog into "regular" unprotected symbols -- showing the symbol font --, and vice versa. Regards, Klaus Dim myFont As String Dim myCharNum As Long With Dialogs(wdDialogInsertSymbol) myFont = .Font myCharNum = .CharNum And &HFFFF& End With ' If regular (Unicode) font: If Left(myFont, 1) = "(" Then myFont = Selection.Font.Name End If Selection.Find.ClearFormatting Selection.Find.Replacement.ClearFormatting With Selection.Find .Text = ChrW(myCharNum) .Forward = True .Wrap = wdFindContinue .Format = False .MatchCase = True .MatchWildcards = False End With While Selection.Find.Execute ' Stop if same symbol font or current style's font Select Case Dialogs(wdDialogInsertSymbol).Font Case myFont Exit Sub Case Else If Left(Dialogs(wdDialogInsertSymbol).Font, 1) = "(" _ And Selection.Font.Name = myFont Then Exit Sub End If End Select Wend "Vijay J." wrote: I use a lot of symbols in text (Word 2000): I insert them by using InsertSymbol and then selecting the desired symbol in the grid and then pressing Insert again. Is there a way to find or search these symbols? I find this way of inserting symbols very convenient, however, Symbols inserted this way still show the basic text font (i.e., for eg, Times New Roman), whereas symbols inserted by typing a character and then changing Font to "Symbol" makes it easy to Find these symbols, but I need to know beforehand which chacter represents which symbol, which is not very convenient. Vijay |
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Hi Klaus
Klaus Linke wrote: [..] You can also google for some macros I posted (SymbolsUnprotect, SymbolsProtect) that turn all protected symbols inserted from the dialog into "regular" unprotected symbols -- showing the symbol font --, and vice versa. Ahh, thanks Klaus -- this might come in handy, so I had to dig that one up. FWIW, the original thread was in German, but that shouldn't bother anybody (well, it doesn't bother *me* ;-)): http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...&output=gplain Greetinx from Switzerland ..bob -- /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | MS \ / | MVP X Against HTML | for / \ in e-mail & news | Word |
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Hi Klaus
Klaus Linke wrote: [..] You can also google for some macros I posted (SymbolsUnprotect, SymbolsProtect) that turn all protected symbols inserted from the dialog into "regular" unprotected symbols -- showing the symbol font --, and vice versa. Ahh, thanks Klaus -- this might come in handy, so I had to dig that one up. FWIW, the original thread was in German, but that shouldn't bother anybody (well, it doesn't bother *me* ;-)): http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...&output=gplain Greetinx from Switzerland ..bob -- /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | MS \ / | MVP X Against HTML | for / \ in e-mail & news | Word |
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Thanks a lot Klaus for your reply. Please find my
feedback inserted in between: -----Original Message----- You can copy/paste the symbol into "Find what" (Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V). This didn't work for me. I tried copying and pasting a symbol Delta (looks like a triangle shape, and which was originally inserted in the text using Insertsymbol). When pasted in the find box, it changes in appearance to letter D, and when I find it, it finds all d and D. To find any symbol (non-Unicode) character, you can use a wildcard search for .Text = "[" & ChrW(&HF021) & "-" & ChrW(&HF0FF) & "]" This works because Word uses codes between U+F021 and U+F0FF for "decorative"/symbol fonts. I pasted this line of text in the Find box, and ticked 'Use Wildcards'. (Sorry if I misunderstood totally what you meant). The search gives no result, saying it can't find the search item. Please advise. If it had worked for me, would have been extremely useful. Dim myFont As String Dim myCharNum As Long With Dialogs(wdDialogInsertSymbol) myFont = .Font myCharNum = .CharNum And &HFFFF& End With ' If regular (Unicode) font: If Left(myFont, 1) = "(" Then myFont = Selection.Font.Name End If Selection.Find.ClearFormatting Selection.Find.Replacement.ClearFormatting With Selection.Find .Text = ChrW(myCharNum) .Forward = True .Wrap = wdFindContinue .Format = False .MatchCase = True .MatchWildcards = False End With While Selection.Find.Execute ' Stop if same symbol font or current style's font Select Case Dialogs(wdDialogInsertSymbol).Font Case myFont Exit Sub Case Else If Left(Dialogs(wdDialogInsertSymbol).Font, 1) = "(" _ And Selection.Font.Name = myFont Then Exit Sub End If End Select Wend This macro works excellently for me, however, it finds only that symbol which was selected before running macro. Nevertheless, it is very useful to me. "Vijay J." wrote: I use a lot of symbols in text (Word 2000): I insert them by using InsertSymbol and then selecting the desired symbol in the grid and then pressing Insert again. Is there a way to find or search these symbols? I find this way of inserting symbols very convenient, however, Symbols inserted this way still show the basic text font (i.e., for eg, Times New Roman), whereas symbols inserted by typing a character and then changing Font to "Symbol" makes it easy to Find these symbols, but I need to know beforehand which chacter represents which symbol, which is not very convenient. Vijay . |
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Hi Vijay,
You can copy/paste the symbol into "Find what" (Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V). This didn't work for me. I tried copying and pasting a symbol Delta (looks like a triangle shape, and which was originally inserted in the text using Insertsymbol). When pasted in the find box, it changes in appearance to letter D, and when I find it, it finds all d and D. I think that can happen only in some older versions (Word2000), only before you saved the document, and only if you didn't use "Insert Symbol". You can try if it works after saving (Ctrl+S)? Usually, the character should display as some Wingding in the dialog. To find any symbol (non-Unicode) character, you can use a wildcard search for .Text = "[" & ChrW(&HF021) & "-" & _ ChrW(&HF0FF) & "]" [...] This works because Word uses codes between U+F021 and U+F0FF for "decorative"/symbol fonts. I pasted this line of text in the Find box, and ticked 'Use Wildcards'. (Sorry if I misunderstood totally what you meant). The search gives no result, saying it can't find the search item. Please advise. If it had worked for me, would have been extremely useful. This line was meant to be used in a "Find/Replace" macro, to replace the line starting with ".Text = ". It's very cumbersome to type it in the "Find what:" box in the user dialog, though it can be done: You need "[x-y]" without the quotes in "Find what:", and instead of "x" type "Alt+61473", instead of "y" type "Alt+61695". (hold Alt-key, and type the number on the numeric keypad on the right side of the keyboard) Those two characters should display in Wingdings, as a pencil and as a "Windows flag". One of the macro projects that came with old Word versions (Support.Dot or Macros#.dot, where # is some number) had a macro to find symbols. Since it needs a custom dialog to enter the font and choose the character, I can't paste it here. Regards, Klaus |
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Hi Klaus,
Thanks for the reply. I tried the suggestions, but .....I think I am having a bad time. Please see my comments inserted. -----Original Message----- Hi Vijay, You can copy/paste the symbol into "Find what" (Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V). This didn't work for me. I tried copying and pasting a symbol Delta (looks like a triangle shape, and which was originally inserted in the text using Insertsymbol). When pasted in the find box, it changes in appearance to letter D, and when I find it, it finds all d and D. I think that can happen only in some older versions (Word2000), only before you saved the document, and only if you didn't use "Insert Symbol". You can try if it works after saving (Ctrl+S)? Usually, the character should display as some Wingding in the dialog. I saved the document, and also made sure the symbols are inserted using Insertsymbol. (As a test, I also included some symbols in the text using font 'symbol'). However, the problem still remained, i.e. as the symbols are copied to the Find box, they become normal letters, and the Find finds only the normal letters, not the symbols. Same thing happens with the symbols with font 'symbol' To find any symbol (non-Unicode) character, you can use a wildcard search for .Text = "[" & ChrW(&HF021) & "-" & _ ChrW(&HF0FF) & "]" [...] This works because Word uses codes between U+F021 and U+F0FF for "decorative"/symbol fonts. I pasted this line of text in the Find box, and ticked 'Use Wildcards'. (Sorry if I misunderstood totally what you meant). The search gives no result, saying it can't find the search item. Please advise. If it had worked for me, would have been extremely useful. This line was meant to be used in a "Find/Replace" macro, to replace the line starting with ".Text = ". I tried this in the macro. But it didn't find any symbols. (The cursor doesn't move from its position when I run the macro, though there are symbols present ahead in the text to be found). Just to test that my macro is correct otherwise, I tried replacing the .Text line with some normal text, and it worked fine. It's very cumbersome to type it in the "Find what:" box in the user dialog, though it can be done: You need "[x-y]" without the quotes in "Find what:", and instead of "x" type "Alt+61473", instead of "y" type "Alt+61695". (hold Alt-key, and type the number on the numeric keypad on the right side of the keyboard) Those two characters should display in Wingdings, as a pencil and as a "Windows flag". Yes, the pencil symbol and Flag symbol correctly displayed in the Find box, but the result of Find is the same..., it gives no results. One of the macro projects that came with old Word versions (Support.Dot or Macros#.dot, where # is some number) had a macro to find symbols. Since it needs a custom dialog to enter the font and choose the character, I can't paste it here. Regards, Klaus . |
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Hi Vijay,
Sorry, I'm at a complete loss about your problems! What is the version? The only one I never used for any length of time is Word 97, so that might explain the differences... Regards, Klaus |
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Hi Klaus,
It is W0rd 2000. -----Original Message----- Hi Vijay, Sorry, I'm at a complete loss about your problems! What is the version? The only one I never used for any length of time is Word 97, so that might explain the differences... Regards, Klaus . |
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