Continuing numbering in header when previous level restarts number

I am working on a Ph. D. dissertation, and the following question is crucial
to how I structure and present my work. I am using headers to organize the
dissertation and style involves numbering provided by the "outlined numbered"
option provided under "Bullets and Numbering." *Header #4 consists of a
series of numbered propositions.* Let assume there will be during the course
of a 300 page dissertation a series of 100 propositions. These propositions
should be numbered 1-100, and naturally, I would want the numbering to be
done automatically, so that if I need to rearrange them, the proper
adjustments can be made automatically. What happens now is if I enter a
header #4 under a new header #3, the numbering automatically restarts at "1."
rather than continuing where the previous proposition number had left off.
I should also note that if place the cursor on an instance of my Heading
4 and click on "Bullets and Numbering" there are two radio buttons that
provide the options, "Restart numbering," and "continue previous list."
Surprisingly, these buttons have no effect on the behavior of the numbering
in my list. Irrespective of which one I click, the numbering will start at 1
when it is the first instance under a given subheading.
An example of what happens is as follows:
§1.2
1.2.A.
1.2.B
1.2.B. (Prop. 1)
1.2.B. (Prop. 2)
§ 1.3
1.3.A
1.3.B
1.3.B (Prop. 1)
What I would want is for the last line here to read: 1.3.B (Prop.3).
This may sound trivial, but it really is important for me to be able to
list sequentially all the propositions that fall under Heading 4. Thanks
very much for any thoghts. Bob

Read up on outline numbering in

http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numb...Numbering.html

In the outline numbering format, at level 4, you need to uncheck the
'Restart after level' box. But do follow the rest of the information in
Shauna's article, because if you try to adjust the numbering format in the
wrong way (e.g. from the Format Bullets and Numbering dialog) you are
likely to mess up all your other styles.

In Word, BTW, these styles are "Headings" not "Headers" - Headers are
something quite different (the repeating information at the top of each
page) and if you use the wrong term in the Help or these newsgroups you will
get confusing information.

--
Margaret Aldis - Microsoft Word MVP
Syntagma partnership site: http://www.syntagma.co.uk
Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.word.mvps.org

"Robert McN" wrote in message
...
I am working on a Ph. D. dissertation, and the following question is
crucial
to how I structure and present my work. I am using headers to organize
the
dissertation and style involves numbering provided by the "outlined
numbered"
option provided under "Bullets and Numbering." *Header #4 consists of a
series of numbered propositions.* Let assume there will be during the
course
of a 300 page dissertation a series of 100 propositions. These
propositions
should be numbered 1-100, and naturally, I would want the numbering to be
done automatically, so that if I need to rearrange them, the proper
adjustments can be made automatically. What happens now is if I enter a
header #4 under a new header #3, the numbering automatically restarts at
"1."
rather than continuing where the previous proposition number had left off.
I should also note that if place the cursor on an instance of my
Heading
4 and click on "Bullets and Numbering" there are two radio buttons that
provide the options, "Restart numbering," and "continue previous list."
Surprisingly, these buttons have no effect on the behavior of the
numbering
in my list. Irrespective of which one I click, the numbering will start at
1
when it is the first instance under a given subheading.
An example of what happens is as follows:
§1.2
1.2.A.
1.2.B
1.2.B. (Prop. 1)
1.2.B. (Prop. 2)
§ 1.3
1.3.A
1.3.B
1.3.B (Prop. 1)
What I would want is for the last line here to read: 1.3.B (Prop.3).
This may sound trivial, but it really is important for me to be able to
list sequentially all the propositions that fall under Heading 4. Thanks
very much for any thoghts. Bob

I wonder if it would be easier to use the Caption/Figure features for your
numbered propositions? Are they actually subheadings, or more interspersed
into the text? Or perhaps to use them as well? (it kinda sounds to me as
though your propositions are similar to equations in a math/science
dissertation, but obviously you would know better).

Alternatively, it looks like your headings are working quite well. It might
work to just add the (Prop 3) after the text either with
equation/caption/figure numbering, or by using a SEQ field to get the 3. It
doesn't seem like, structurally, the number of the proposition has anything
to do with the outline number, so perhaps better to keep them entirely
separate.

DM


On 11/17/04 5:55 AM, "Robert McN" wrote:

I am working on a Ph. D. dissertation, and the following question is crucial
to how I structure and present my work. I am using headers to organize the
dissertation and style involves numbering provided by the "outlined numbered"
option provided under "Bullets and Numbering." *Header #4 consists of a
series of numbered propositions.* Let assume there will be during the course
of a 300 page dissertation a series of 100 propositions. These propositions
should be numbered 1-100, and naturally, I would want the numbering to be
done automatically, so that if I need to rearrange them, the proper
adjustments can be made automatically. What happens now is if I enter a
header #4 under a new header #3, the numbering automatically restarts at "1."
rather than continuing where the previous proposition number had left off.
I should also note that if place the cursor on an instance of my Heading
4 and click on "Bullets and Numbering" there are two radio buttons that
provide the options, "Restart numbering," and "continue previous list."
Surprisingly, these buttons have no effect on the behavior of the numbering
in my list. Irrespective of which one I click, the numbering will start at 1
when it is the first instance under a given subheading.
An example of what happens is as follows:
§1.2
1.2.A.
1.2.B
1.2.B. (Prop. 1)
1.2.B. (Prop. 2)
§ 1.3
1.3.A
1.3.B
1.3.B (Prop. 1)
What I would want is for the last line here to read: 1.3.B (Prop.3).
This may sound trivial, but it really is important for me to be able to
list sequentially all the propositions that fall under Heading 4. Thanks
very much for any thoghts. Bob

--
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Word FAQ: http://www.word.mvps.org/
MacWord Tips: http://www.word.mvps.org/MacWordNew/
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I was thinking the same thing--using a SEQ field, but it appears that the
Heading 4 picks up the Level 3 numbering; I wonder if you can include the
Level 3 numbering and set the numbering of the current level as "(none)."

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
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"Daiya Mitchell" wrote in message
...
I wonder if it would be easier to use the Caption/Figure features for your
numbered propositions? Are they actually subheadings, or more
interspersed
into the text? Or perhaps to use them as well? (it kinda sounds to me as
though your propositions are similar to equations in a math/science
dissertation, but obviously you would know better).

Alternatively, it looks like your headings are working quite well. It
might
work to just add the (Prop 3) after the text either with
equation/caption/figure numbering, or by using a SEQ field to get the 3.
It
doesn't seem like, structurally, the number of the proposition has
anything
to do with the outline number, so perhaps better to keep them entirely
separate.

DM


On 11/17/04 5:55 AM, "Robert McN" wrote:

I am working on a Ph. D. dissertation, and the following question is
crucial
to how I structure and present my work. I am using headers to organize
the
dissertation and style involves numbering provided by the "outlined
numbered"
option provided under "Bullets and Numbering." *Header #4 consists of a
series of numbered propositions.* Let assume there will be during the
course
of a 300 page dissertation a series of 100 propositions. These
propositions
should be numbered 1-100, and naturally, I would want the numbering to
be
done automatically, so that if I need to rearrange them, the proper
adjustments can be made automatically. What happens now is if I enter a
header #4 under a new header #3, the numbering automatically restarts at
"1."
rather than continuing where the previous proposition number had left
off.
I should also note that if place the cursor on an instance of my
Heading
4 and click on "Bullets and Numbering" there are two radio buttons that
provide the options, "Restart numbering," and "continue previous list."
Surprisingly, these buttons have no effect on the behavior of the
numbering
in my list. Irrespective of which one I click, the numbering will start
at 1
when it is the first instance under a given subheading.
An example of what happens is as follows:
§1.2
1.2.A.
1.2.B
1.2.B. (Prop. 1)
1.2.B. (Prop. 2)
§ 1.3
1.3.A
1.3.B
1.3.B (Prop. 1)
What I would want is for the last line here to read: 1.3.B (Prop.3).
This may sound trivial, but it really is important for me to be able
to
list sequentially all the propositions that fall under Heading 4.
Thanks
very much for any thoghts. Bob

--
Daiya Mitchell, MVP Mac/Word
Word FAQ: http://www.word.mvps.org/
MacWord Tips: http://www.word.mvps.org/MacWordNew/
What's an MVP? A volunteer! Read the FAQ:
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/

Just wanted to say thank you for your reply. I'll try to experiment with
what you have recommended and also try the suggestions offered by the others,
Daiya and Suzanne.

I find the numbering in the Headings, quite exasperating, especially when
there are Roman numerals. The program seems to always function in weird and
unpredictable ways and I waste a lot of time trying to get things formatted.
However, the numbering conventions are quite important in helping to organize
my ideas (for my sake and the sake of my readers.)
Thanks again.

"Margaret Aldis" wrote:

Read up on outline numbering in

http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numb...Numbering.html

In the outline numbering format, at level 4, you need to uncheck the
'Restart after level' box. But do follow the rest of the information in
Shauna's article, because if you try to adjust the numbering format in the
wrong way (e.g. from the Format Bullets and Numbering dialog) you are
likely to mess up all your other styles.

In Word, BTW, these styles are "Headings" not "Headers" - Headers are
something quite different (the repeating information at the top of each
page) and if you use the wrong term in the Help or these newsgroups you will
get confusing information.

--
Margaret Aldis - Microsoft Word MVP
Syntagma partnership site: http://www.syntagma.co.uk
Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.word.mvps.org

"Robert McN" wrote in message
...
I am working on a Ph. D. dissertation, and the following question is
crucial
to how I structure and present my work. I am using headers to organize
the
dissertation and style involves numbering provided by the "outlined
numbered"
option provided under "Bullets and Numbering." *Header #4 consists of a
series of numbered propositions.* Let assume there will be during the
course
of a 300 page dissertation a series of 100 propositions. These
propositions
should be numbered 1-100, and naturally, I would want the numbering to be
done automatically, so that if I need to rearrange them, the proper
adjustments can be made automatically. What happens now is if I enter a
header #4 under a new header #3, the numbering automatically restarts at
"1."
rather than continuing where the previous proposition number had left off.
I should also note that if place the cursor on an instance of my
Heading
4 and click on "Bullets and Numbering" there are two radio buttons that
provide the options, "Restart numbering," and "continue previous list."
Surprisingly, these buttons have no effect on the behavior of the
numbering
in my list. Irrespective of which one I click, the numbering will start at
1
when it is the first instance under a given subheading.
An example of what happens is as follows:
§1.2
1.2.A.
1.2.B
1.2.B. (Prop. 1)
1.2.B. (Prop. 2)
§ 1.3
1.3.A
1.3.B
1.3.B (Prop. 1)
What I would want is for the last line here to read: 1.3.B (Prop.3).
This may sound trivial, but it really is important for me to be able to
list sequentially all the propositions that fall under Heading 4. Thanks
very much for any thoghts. Bob