Why is a French Spellchecker a "required" update for English speak

The latest batch includes a French Spellchecker and Thesaurus as a required
update. Why? What is next? Arabic? Do French installations require English
updates? Is Microsoft getting political?

Sorry. This is a newsgroup dedicated to questions about Access, the
database program in Office Professional. It appears your question may not
be related to these subjects. The Microsoft help system is not all that
clear and may have misdirected you here.

It is best to ask your questions in a newsgroup dedicated to the
subject of your question. You should find people better able to address
your problem there.

Note: It is always best to indicate the name and version of any
program(s) you may be using when asking a question and also indicate the
operating system (like Windows XP or 98) when you ask a question.

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia's Muire duit
"French Spellcheck "Required"?" French Spellcheck
wrote in message
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The latest batch includes a French Spellchecker and Thesaurus as a
required
update. Why? What is next? Arabic? Do French installations require
English
updates? Is Microsoft getting political?

Why?

Es loco.

What is next?

Deutsch.

Arabic?

Nein. Deutsch.

Do French installations require English
updates?

Non.

Is Microsoft getting political?
???.

And you've mistakenly posted your questions in the Microsoft Access (the
database application that's part of MS Office Professional) newsgroup.
Please post your questions in a more appropriate newsgroup.

HTH.

Gunny


"French Spellcheck "Required"?" French Spellcheck
wrote in message
...
The latest batch includes a French Spellchecker and Thesaurus as a
required
update. Why? What is next? Arabic? Do French installations require
English
updates? Is Microsoft getting political?

Since the update you mention is offered by MS OFFICE update I suspect this
is not entirely the wrong group - if you head for update from within Access
you get offered it. I did and after Update tries to foist it upon me it then
refuses to install.

I had one machine that insisted the French grammar checker was installed
first, then everything went normally, I have one machine that accepted all 3
yesterday with no hiccups, but this one won't have all 3 (including a word
security update) in any combinations.

Apparently the people who have replied so far either haven't had the
problem, don't check updates via Access, or don't do updates.

Anyway, best of luck with it, I suspect an error on the update list
somewhere, however I might try installing French just to see if it makes a
difference, otherwise it's bye bye (au revoir?) to Office Update

Charlie



"French Spellcheck "Required"?" French Spellcheck
wrote in message
...
The latest batch includes a French Spellchecker and Thesaurus as a
required
update. Why? What is next? Arabic? Do French installations require
English
updates? Is Microsoft getting political?

Perhaps the people who have replied so far thought that
microsoft.public.officeupdate might be a more appropriate forum for
questions about Office Update?

For those using the web-based interface, the corresponding URL is ...

http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...c.officeupdate

--
Brendan Reynolds (MVP)

"Charlie Tame" wrote in message
...
Since the update you mention is offered by MS OFFICE update I suspect this
is not entirely the wrong group - if you head for update from within
Access you get offered it. I did and after Update tries to foist it upon
me it then refuses to install.

I had one machine that insisted the French grammar checker was installed
first, then everything went normally, I have one machine that accepted all
3 yesterday with no hiccups, but this one won't have all 3 (including a
word security update) in any combinations.

Apparently the people who have replied so far either haven't had the
problem, don't check updates via Access, or don't do updates.

Anyway, best of luck with it, I suspect an error on the update list
somewhere, however I might try installing French just to see if it makes a
difference, otherwise it's bye bye (au revoir?) to Office Update

Charlie



"French Spellcheck "Required"?" French Spellcheck
wrote in message
...
The latest batch includes a French Spellchecker and Thesaurus as a
required
update. Why? What is next? Arabic? Do French installations require
English
updates? Is Microsoft getting political?

"Brendan Reynolds" anonymous at discussions dot microsoft dot com wrote in
message ...
Perhaps the people who have replied so far thought that
microsoft.public.officeupdate might be a more appropriate forum for
questions about Office Update?

Perhaps they did, but if you go there from within Access (IE using the menu
thing that says "Check for updates") you get the same problem as users with
all other office products - and since it has now stopped me from getting an
update for "Word 2003" perhaps the "Word" groups would be a consideration?
no?

I appreciate your informative link, however since this appears to be a
general problem that's going to affect all of us (potentially) I would think
someone here will soon learn the answer, wouldn't you?

In any case the original post appeared to have a bit of humor in it,
occasionally people appreciate something on a lighter note.

I sincerely apologize if our idle banter ruffled your pristine feathers,
annoyed you, shocked you or caused you to have a bad hair day, but I assure
you I won't be losing any sleep over it

Charlie

Hi, Charlie.

Since the update you mention is offered by MS OFFICE update I suspect this
is not entirely the wrong group

This is entirely the wrong group to ask how to make configuration changes
for applications other than Microsoft Access, Jet, or MDAC. Office Update
is not a component of Access any more than Word is a component of Access.

I had one machine that insisted the French grammar checker was installed
first, then everything went normally, I have one machine that accepted all
3 yesterday with no hiccups, but this one won't have all 3 (including a
word security update) in any combinations.

This is a case where you should have asked for help from an experienced
system administrator or MS Office professional, not a database expert.

Apparently the people who have replied so far either haven't had the
problem, don't check updates via Access, or don't do updates.

Because I'm a DBA and a former System Administrator, I often do
installations and updates on numerous computers -- usually set up by other
administrators or the users -- and having multiple OS's and versions of MS
Office, so I'm aware of this occasional problem. It's inappropriate to ask
Access database experts for step-by-step instructions to fix something that
many certified Windows system administrators and Microsoft Office
professionals are not qualified to handle unless also experienced in this
arena, too.

Anyway, best of luck with it, I suspect an error on the update list
somewhere, however I might try installing French just to see if it makes a
difference, otherwise it's bye bye (au revoir?) to Office Update

You are guessing at the cause, and your solution will cause additional work
to fix for anyone implementing it. I would not recommend this experiment.

HTH.

Gunny


"Charlie Tame" wrote in message
...
Since the update you mention is offered by MS OFFICE update I suspect this
is not entirely the wrong group - if you head for update from within
Access you get offered it. I did and after Update tries to foist it upon
me it then refuses to install.

I had one machine that insisted the French grammar checker was installed
first, then everything went normally, I have one machine that accepted all
3 yesterday with no hiccups, but this one won't have all 3 (including a
word security update) in any combinations.

Apparently the people who have replied so far either haven't had the
problem, don't check updates via Access, or don't do updates.

Anyway, best of luck with it, I suspect an error on the update list
somewhere, however I might try installing French just to see if it makes a
difference, otherwise it's bye bye (au revoir?) to Office Update

Charlie



"French Spellcheck "Required"?" French Spellcheck
wrote in message
...
The latest batch includes a French Spellchecker and Thesaurus as a
required
update. Why? What is next? Arabic? Do French installations require
English
updates? Is Microsoft getting political?

Oh my! I have only recently subscribed to three newsgroups, access, access
queries and access forms. I hadn't realised that I was having to mix with
people who will shoot you for your first mistake.

After considering the exchange over this item, I asked myself - what is the
name of this group 'Microsoft' 'Public' 'Access'. Not a mention of database
in any of that - in fact an invitation to a public access group related to
Microsoft!

Lighten up people and allow those out there trying to learn some leeway - or
are you all perfect?

JohnM


"'69 Camaro" AM wrote in
message ...
Hi, Charlie.

Since the update you mention is offered by MS OFFICE update I suspect
this
is not entirely the wrong group

This is entirely the wrong group to ask how to make configuration changes
for applications other than Microsoft Access, Jet, or MDAC. Office Update
is not a component of Access any more than Word is a component of Access.

I had one machine that insisted the French grammar checker was installed
first, then everything went normally, I have one machine that accepted
all
3 yesterday with no hiccups, but this one won't have all 3 (including a
word security update) in any combinations.

This is a case where you should have asked for help from an experienced
system administrator or MS Office professional, not a database expert.

Apparently the people who have replied so far either haven't had the
problem, don't check updates via Access, or don't do updates.

Because I'm a DBA and a former System Administrator, I often do
installations and updates on numerous computers -- usually set up by other
administrators or the users -- and having multiple OS's and versions of MS
Office, so I'm aware of this occasional problem. It's inappropriate to
ask
Access database experts for step-by-step instructions to fix something
that
many certified Windows system administrators and Microsoft Office
professionals are not qualified to handle unless also experienced in this
arena, too.

Anyway, best of luck with it, I suspect an error on the update list
somewhere, however I might try installing French just to see if it makes
a
difference, otherwise it's bye bye (au revoir?) to Office Update

You are guessing at the cause, and your solution will cause additional
work
to fix for anyone implementing it. I would not recommend this experiment.

HTH.

Gunny


"Charlie Tame" wrote in message
...
Since the update you mention is offered by MS OFFICE update I suspect
this
is not entirely the wrong group - if you head for update from within
Access you get offered it. I did and after Update tries to foist it upon
me it then refuses to install.

I had one machine that insisted the French grammar checker was installed
first, then everything went normally, I have one machine that accepted
all
3 yesterday with no hiccups, but this one won't have all 3 (including a
word security update) in any combinations.

Apparently the people who have replied so far either haven't had the
problem, don't check updates via Access, or don't do updates.

Anyway, best of luck with it, I suspect an error on the update list
somewhere, however I might try installing French just to see if it makes
a
difference, otherwise it's bye bye (au revoir?) to Office Update

Charlie



"French Spellcheck "Required"?" French Spellcheck
wrote in message
...
The latest batch includes a French Spellchecker and Thesaurus as a
required
update. Why? What is next? Arabic? Do French installations require
English
updates? Is Microsoft getting political?

"'69 Camaro" AM wrote in
message ...
Hi, Charlie.

Since the update you mention is offered by MS OFFICE update I suspect
this is not entirely the wrong group

This is entirely the wrong group to ask how to make configuration changes
for applications other than Microsoft Access, Jet, or MDAC. Office Update
is not a component of Access any more than Word is a component of Access.

I had one machine that insisted the French grammar checker was installed
first, then everything went normally, I have one machine that accepted
all 3 yesterday with no hiccups, but this one won't have all 3 (including
a word security update) in any combinations.

This is a case where you should have asked for help from an experienced
system administrator or MS Office professional, not a database expert.

It wasn't me asking for help, but it's noticeable that where the MVPs in
other groups try to address the question the MVPs here simply address
posting ettiquette. For a start if you read the group name as "Public
Access" it is rather misleading, which I agree is unfortunate but to a
novice it's an understandable error in my view. Remember MS advise people to
seek help in the newsgroups therefore one must expect a certain amount of
new user error.



Apparently the people who have replied so far either haven't had the
problem, don't check updates via Access, or don't do updates.

Because I'm a DBA and a former System Administrator, I often do
installations and updates on numerous computers -- usually set up by other
administrators or the users -- and having multiple OS's and versions of MS
Office, so I'm aware of this occasional problem. It's inappropriate to
ask Access database experts for step-by-step instructions to fix something
that many certified Windows system administrators and Microsoft Office
professionals are not qualified to handle unless also experienced in this
arena, too.


Nobody asked for specific instructions did they? Newsgroups do NOT come with
a list of who's experienced at what, but in any case this particular
question was intended (I thought) to be half humorous, although it is not
impossible that one or two of us could have worked out the answer. Perhaps
the ivory tower syndrome is worse than I thought ?




Anyway, best of luck with it, I suspect an error on the update list
somewhere, however I might try installing French just to see if it makes
a difference, otherwise it's bye bye (au revoir?) to Office Update

You are guessing at the cause, and your solution will cause additional
work to fix for anyone implementing it. I would not recommend this
experiment.

HTH.

Gunny


Which part of "I might try" did you misunderstand? It should be fairly
obvious that this was a rather fragile attempt at fitting in the "French" au
revoir comment.

Hell's teeth it seems like a few here need to take a vacation !

Charlie

"John Mullan" wrote in message
...
Oh my! I have only recently subscribed to three newsgroups, access, access
queries and access forms. I hadn't realised that I was having to mix with
people who will shoot you for your first mistake.

After considering the exchange over this item, I asked myself - what is
the
name of this group 'Microsoft' 'Public' 'Access'. Not a mention of
database
in any of that - in fact an invitation to a public access group related
to
Microsoft!

Thank you John, (Merci Beaucoup?) I hadn't read that before posting my reply
(probably above in the list) but it's exactly the cause of much of the
frustration. Actually "We" probably know where we are, but for a newcomer
the list of groups is staggering, and access comes pretty close to the start
.

Don't take too much notice of me, I'm mainly just teasing, but it is very
disconcerting for beginners.

Anyway, no more from me on the subject, it is way off topic for any of the
groups .

Charlie