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  #21  
Old October 27th, 2006, 11:27 AM posted to microsoft.public.access,microsoft.public.access.forms,microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general,microsoft.public.outlook.general,microsoft.public.outlook.installation,microsoft.public.vstudio.development,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
progressive realization
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Default This is absurd

My question to you is: Are one you of the MVP clones with preformatted
brains?...

From YOUR question asking for a question, the conclusion to my question is:
affirmative.


"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote in message
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Fine soap box speech. Now what exactly is your question?






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  #22  
Old October 27th, 2006, 11:29 AM posted to microsoft.public.access,microsoft.public.access.forms,microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general,microsoft.public.outlook.general,microsoft.public.outlook.installation,microsoft.public.vstudio.development,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mark A. Sam
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Default I apologize

I'm sorry for this post. I didn't want to offend, annoy or anger any of you.
I just get tired of constantly fighting with software, and this just pushed
me over the edge. Little quirks take too much of my time, and there are
many of them.




"Mark A. Sam" wrote in message
...
I really, really, really, really, really, really tried hard not to
criticize microsoft, becuase I know some of you worship Bill Gates as your
God, but what just happened is beyond absurd. The world is in heap big
trouble with Microsoft at the helm of the software industry.

A little while ago, I got a notice that an update was ready. I didn't
know why I received it, becuase my system was set to receive Automatic
updates, and the caption on the notification said "Automatic Update".
First what is automatic about an update that asks me? Someone out to
knock Bill Gates on the head and ask, "Is anyone in there?". But that
isn't the problem, just a prelude. I'm really the idiote for saying yes
to the update. It was an Internet Exporer v7 update, or so it said. I
said yes, then it asked me if I accept the license, and of course I did.
The next thing I saw was that Internet Explorer V7 was being installed
( I had it installed over a month ago). Then it said it was uninstalling
a previous version and I thought, Uh Oh!!!!!! And rightfully so. I was
asked to restart my computer and naturally I couldn't ignor that request,
becuase it kept coming back and bugging me. So I said yes, and nothing
happened. So I tried to restart and it wouldn't. Finally after a several
attempts I opened the task manager and dumped a bunch of programs then
was able to restart. After I restated, I opened up IE and went to open a
new tab and there weren't any. HUH, I asked myself? No tabs? I like
tabs, what happened? This is what happened, the update uninstalled
version 7 and installed version 6.

Do I need to say any more? I can't, becuase there is no description
suitable to describe this, except, HUH!!!!!

I think Microsoft need some updating of personnel, starting with Bill
Gates and continuing until the last programmer is booted. Keep the
cleaning crew and the cafeteria staff.



  #23  
Old October 27th, 2006, 12:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.access,microsoft.public.access.forms,microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general,microsoft.public.outlook.general,microsoft.public.outlook.installation,microsoft.public.vstudio.development,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
RHinNC
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Default I apologize

No problem. Big of you to make this post.

At least you took your frustration out on the keyboard instead of taking a
baseball bat and smashing your PC...... :-)


"Mark A. Sam" wrote in message
...
I'm sorry for this post. I didn't want to offend, annoy or anger any of
you. I just get tired of constantly fighting with software, and this just
pushed me over the edge. Little quirks take too much of my time, and
there are many of them.




"Mark A. Sam" wrote in message
...
I really, really, really, really, really, really tried hard not to
criticize microsoft, becuase I know some of you worship Bill Gates as your
God, but what just happened is beyond absurd. The world is in heap big
trouble with Microsoft at the helm of the software industry.

A little while ago, I got a notice that an update was ready. I didn't
know why I received it, becuase my system was set to receive Automatic
updates, and the caption on the notification said "Automatic Update".
First what is automatic about an update that asks me? Someone out to
knock Bill Gates on the head and ask, "Is anyone in there?". But that
isn't the problem, just a prelude. I'm really the idiote for saying yes
to the update. It was an Internet Exporer v7 update, or so it said. I
said yes, then it asked me if I accept the license, and of course I did.
The next thing I saw was that Internet Explorer V7 was being installed
( I had it installed over a month ago). Then it said it was uninstalling
a previous version and I thought, Uh Oh!!!!!! And rightfully so. I was
asked to restart my computer and naturally I couldn't ignor that request,
becuase it kept coming back and bugging me. So I said yes, and nothing
happened. So I tried to restart and it wouldn't. Finally after a
several attempts I opened the task manager and dumped a bunch of programs
then was able to restart. After I restated, I opened up IE and went to
open a new tab and there weren't any. HUH, I asked myself? No tabs? I
like tabs, what happened? This is what happened, the update uninstalled
version 7 and installed version 6.

Do I need to say any more? I can't, becuase there is no description
suitable to describe this, except, HUH!!!!!

I think Microsoft need some updating of personnel, starting with Bill
Gates and continuing until the last programmer is booted. Keep the
cleaning crew and the cafeteria staff.





  #24  
Old October 27th, 2006, 01:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.access,microsoft.public.access.forms,microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general,microsoft.public.outlook.general,microsoft.public.outlook.installation,microsoft.public.vstudio.development,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Edwin vMierlo
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Default Accepted

Apology accepted


  #25  
Old October 27th, 2006, 04:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.access,microsoft.public.access.forms,microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general,microsoft.public.outlook.general,microsoft.public.outlook.installation,microsoft.public.vstudio.development,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
antioch
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Default I apologize


"Mark A. Sam" wrote in message
...
I'm sorry for this post. I didn't want to offend, annoy or anger any of
you. I just get tired of constantly fighting with software, and this just
pushed me over the edge. Little quirks take too much of my time, and

there are many of them.




Hello Mark
It is always nice to see a poster apologise to the world when they think
they have gone a bit too far. Whether I think that is neither here nor
there. Apart from the 'ranting' side of the thread, there was little I
could see that would offend.
I am sure that 'Horace' was thinking of you and others, when he wrote:-
'Anger is a short madness'.

I have read through this thread of yours, though some may think I might have
had better things to do, and I would like to thank you for putting to the
fore what lots of other software users probably feel, rightly or wrongly,
into words.
However, crossposting did seem excessive - just the IE7 group would have
been fine, and I have learned a couple of things.
I have been able to add a couple of 'trolls' to my kill file'
I have seen that my knowledge of downloading is better than others.
I have also seen the dangers of using ones fingers before engaging brains.
I have discovered that there IS something worse one can do to one's computer
that is more dangerous than just downloading betaware. And that is
downloading betaware and not knowing one has done it!
Rgds
Antioch



  #26  
Old October 28th, 2006, 06:38 AM posted to microsoft.public.access,microsoft.public.access.forms,microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general,microsoft.public.outlook.general,microsoft.public.outlook.installation,microsoft.public.vstudio.development,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul Knudsen
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Default This is absurd

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 20:39:44 -0400, "Mark A. Sam"
wrote:

I really, really, really, really, really, really tried hard not to criticize
microsoft, becuase I know some of you worship Bill Gates as your God, but
what just happened is beyond absurd. The world is in heap big trouble with
Microsoft at the helm of the software industry.

A little while ago, I got a notice that an update was ready. I didn't know
why I received it, becuase my system was set to receive Automatic updates,


I've never seen this. But, then again, I don't have Automatic Updates
turned on. Did Gates hold a gun to your head and demand you turn it
on? No? Then whose fault is it?
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http://journals.democraticunderground.com/top10
  #27  
Old October 28th, 2006, 06:45 AM posted to microsoft.public.access,microsoft.public.access.forms,microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general,microsoft.public.outlook.general,microsoft.public.outlook.installation,microsoft.public.vstudio.development,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Charlie Tame
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Default This is absurd


"Paul Knudsen" wrote in message
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On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 20:39:44 -0400, "Mark A. Sam"
wrote:

I really, really, really, really, really, really tried hard not to
criticize
microsoft, becuase I know some of you worship Bill Gates as your God, but
what just happened is beyond absurd. The world is in heap big trouble
with
Microsoft at the helm of the software industry.

A little while ago, I got a notice that an update was ready. I didn't
know
why I received it, becuase my system was set to receive Automatic updates,


I've never seen this. But, then again, I don't have Automatic Updates
turned on. Did Gates hold a gun to your head and demand you turn it
on? No? Then whose fault is it?



The point is that if an "Update" requires a new EULA it cannot be fully
automatic else the user would be deprived of the choice...


  #28  
Old October 28th, 2006, 07:37 AM posted to microsoft.public.access,microsoft.public.access.forms,microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general,microsoft.public.outlook.general,microsoft.public.outlook.installation,microsoft.public.vstudio.development,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
William Stacey [C# MVP]
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Default This is absurd

I think I remember having the same "issue". I think what happened was the
install uninstalled IE7 (*and rolled back last IE) first and asks for a
reboot before continue. When the machine started up, IE7 install had not
happened yet, only the uninstall step. You run setup again to install IE7
and it finished - for me without a reboot IIRC. It was a bit strange, but I
just thought I may have missed a dialog or two with some foggy clicking on
my part. But the sky did not fall down here and I don't think G gets this
close to the install process anymore.

--
William Stacey [C# MVP]

"Mark A. Sam" wrote in message
...
|I really, really, really, really, really, really tried hard not to
criticize
| microsoft, becuase I know some of you worship Bill Gates as your God, but
| what just happened is beyond absurd. The world is in heap big trouble
with
| Microsoft at the helm of the software industry.
....


  #29  
Old October 28th, 2006, 07:43 AM posted to microsoft.public.access,microsoft.public.access.forms,microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general,microsoft.public.outlook.general,microsoft.public.outlook.installation,microsoft.public.vstudio.development,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
William Stacey [C# MVP]
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Default I apologize

Actually, if you think about it, they may have done us all a big favor. So
many times a beta product does not uninstall all its hooks correctly and
even installing the new version does not fix it. It smells like they did a
very good job of removing the old and getting machine into a known good
state before the new install. It is just a guess, but I have not had any
issues since the new install.

--
William Stacey [C# MVP]

"Mark A. Sam" wrote in message
...
| I'm sorry for this post. I didn't want to offend, annoy or anger any of
you.
| I just get tired of constantly fighting with software, and this just
pushed
| me over the edge. Little quirks take too much of my time, and there are
| many of them.
|
|
|
|
| "Mark A. Sam" wrote in message
| ...
| I really, really, really, really, really, really tried hard not to
| criticize microsoft, becuase I know some of you worship Bill Gates as
your
| God, but what just happened is beyond absurd. The world is in heap big
| trouble with Microsoft at the helm of the software industry.
|
| A little while ago, I got a notice that an update was ready. I didn't
| know why I received it, becuase my system was set to receive Automatic
| updates, and the caption on the notification said "Automatic Update".
| First what is automatic about an update that asks me? Someone out to
| knock Bill Gates on the head and ask, "Is anyone in there?". But that
| isn't the problem, just a prelude. I'm really the idiote for saying
yes
| to the update. It was an Internet Exporer v7 update, or so it said. I
| said yes, then it asked me if I accept the license, and of course I did.
| The next thing I saw was that Internet Explorer V7 was being installed
| ( I had it installed over a month ago). Then it said it was
uninstalling
| a previous version and I thought, Uh Oh!!!!!! And rightfully so. I was
| asked to restart my computer and naturally I couldn't ignor that
request,
| becuase it kept coming back and bugging me. So I said yes, and nothing
| happened. So I tried to restart and it wouldn't. Finally after a
several
| attempts I opened the task manager and dumped a bunch of programs then
| was able to restart. After I restated, I opened up IE and went to open
a
| new tab and there weren't any. HUH, I asked myself? No tabs? I like
| tabs, what happened? This is what happened, the update uninstalled
| version 7 and installed version 6.
|
| Do I need to say any more? I can't, becuase there is no description
| suitable to describe this, except, HUH!!!!!
|
| I think Microsoft need some updating of personnel, starting with Bill
| Gates and continuing until the last programmer is booted. Keep the
| cleaning crew and the cafeteria staff.
|
|
|


  #30  
Old October 30th, 2006, 10:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.access,microsoft.public.access.forms,microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general,microsoft.public.outlook.general,microsoft.public.outlook.installation,microsoft.public.vstudio.development,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Gary G. Little
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Default This is absurd

The question here is whether or not you can install the release version of
IE7 over a beta of IE7. I suspect that you cannot, and hence some of your
problems. From your original post, Mark I get the general feeling that you
did not bother to read the dialog boxes that popped up telling you to exit
any running programs before installing IE7. Lots of things I'll install
without doing that, but a new version of IE I consistently install with as
pristine a runtime as I can.

I down loaded and installed IE7 x64 over an existing IE6 install and thus
far (he says knocking on wood) I have had zero problems; if anything it is a
huge improvement over IE6 x64. Were I you, I'd un-install any instance of
IE7, get IE 6 happy and then upgrade to IE 7 again ... or just keep IE 6.

--
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Gary G. Little


"Mark A. Sam" wrote in message
...
What's a beta? I wasn't informed that version 7 is a beta. I was
available on the Microsoft site as the new version. No beta involved.

"Leythos" wrote in message
.. .
In article ,
says...
I think Microsoft need some updating of personnel, starting with Bill
Gates
and continuing until the last programmer is booted. Keep the cleaning
crew
and the cafeteria staff.


let's get this in perspective:

1) You installed a BETA product
2) You complain when you are using your computer and it alerts you that
it's about to install updates while you are using your computer
3) The update is for a BETA product
4) Your BETA test machine doesn't perform properly

What part of BETA don't you understand - if you are not prepared to deal
with problems then don't run BETA software.

If you are prepared to deal with problems associated with BETA software
you should have posts your statements as "I've tried to install IE7 BETA
update and I'm having problems".

Your first paragraph makes you appear to be trolling.

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