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Thank you for your suggestions. Maybe I can be more specific. I have a 6
chapter document. I want each chapter to start on an odd page. On the very first page I enter an odd section break. Enter even/odd page numbers -- then edit header to add the chapter title on the right hand side of the first page, next to the page #. For the next page -- an even page, I click the page numbers and select the even page (in this case I'm using Accent 1 & 2) Edit the header to reflect the even page text -- which remains the same throughout the document. No problem with this. At the beginning of chapter 2 I insert an odd page break, click to edit header and the Link to Connect button lights up. If I click on the header first -- the light goes dim. If I click on the button first, to disconnect, then edit the chapter title, it works. It works for two or three chapters, then when I advance to the next chapter, same process. Insert odd page break - -----now I want to change the chapter title but the link button is still dim. However, on the second page of the chapter it lights up. Here's where I start having problems. If I clink on the disconnect button on the 2nd page -- things start heading south fast. Even if I manually change the headers, it won't hold true when I move back and forth in the document. I understand word is adding a blank page to ensure odd page beginnings -- even when the next page is an odd one -- is this related to why I can't disconnect from the previous chapter to change the title? This is driving me crazy. Should I prepare the complete document then go back and insert the page #'s and headers? I thought I could just keep adding text, changing chapters as I came to them. You can access styleref through InsertQuickParts but I've never used it and word doesn't include it in their help files. -- oakridge "Stefan Blom" wrote: Indeed. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Often Word 2007 Help does point to one of these online topics, but there are no links to "advanced" topics, including most fields. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... One would think that help topics still relevant for Word 2007 (after some minor changes) could easily be added to Word 2007 help, but apparently that is a difficult task. sigh -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... When you can't find something in Help in Word 2007, the best resource is http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/wo...649261033.aspx, which provides access to the generally helpful Word 2003 Help file. But also see http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/StyleRef.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "oakridge" wrote in message news Thank you for your response Pam, I checked the link and not being familiar with styleref field - I did as it suggested and checked help for styleref field. Word 7 says it can't find any such thing. For more information about the STYLEREF field, click the Index tab in Microsoft Word 7.0 Help, type the following text STYLEREF -- oakridge "Pamelia Caswell via OfficeKB.com" wrote: A styleref field can do what you want. See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/141994 Pam oakridge wrote: I'm setting H&F in a long document. I have no problem with the odd/even numbering. However, I want the chapter name to change in the header on each chapter. I've read all the helps and cannot find my error. I think it's in the section breaks but can't figure out where I'm going wrong. It seems to work for a few chapters then it either reverts to the previous one or when I set the last chapter -- the headers all change to that chapter name. I've been workng on this all week with no luck. Would so much appreciate any help!! -- Message posted via OfficeKB.com http://www.officekb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...ayout/201004/1 . . |
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First of all, I assume you don't want a header on the first page of the
chapter (that would be very odd), so you should have "Different First Page" enabled as well as "Different Odd and Even." Now, when dealing with the headers, be aware that you will have a First Page Header (which will always be an odd page since you're using Odd Page section breaks), Even Page Header, and Odd Page Header. If your chapters are very short, it's possible you won't see all three headers in a given section, so be very careful to notice which one you're in. The First Page Header is going to be blank (you may want to put the page number in the First Page Footer). That will be true for every chapter, so you can leave all the First Page Headers linked. Once you've set up the Even Page Header, you shouldn't need to do anything else to it, and all those can stay linked as well. The only headers you should have to unlink are the Odd Page Headers and those only if you really want to make work for yourself by typing the chapter title in manually; as has already been pointed out, you can put a StyleRef field in the Odd Page Header and it will pick up the current chapter title so that you can leave all those headers linked as well. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "oakridge" wrote in message ... Thank you for your suggestions. Maybe I can be more specific. I have a 6 chapter document. I want each chapter to start on an odd page. On the very first page I enter an odd section break. Enter even/odd page numbers -- then edit header to add the chapter title on the right hand side of the first page, next to the page #. For the next page -- an even page, I click the page numbers and select the even page (in this case I'm using Accent 1 & 2) Edit the header to reflect the even page text -- which remains the same throughout the document. No problem with this. At the beginning of chapter 2 I insert an odd page break, click to edit header and the Link to Connect button lights up. If I click on the header first -- the light goes dim. If I click on the button first, to disconnect, then edit the chapter title, it works. It works for two or three chapters, then when I advance to the next chapter, same process. Insert odd page break - -----now I want to change the chapter title but the link button is still dim. However, on the second page of the chapter it lights up. Here's where I start having problems. If I clink on the disconnect button on the 2nd page -- things start heading south fast. Even if I manually change the headers, it won't hold true when I move back and forth in the document. I understand word is adding a blank page to ensure odd page beginnings -- even when the next page is an odd one -- is this related to why I can't disconnect from the previous chapter to change the title? This is driving me crazy. Should I prepare the complete document then go back and insert the page #'s and headers? I thought I could just keep adding text, changing chapters as I came to them. You can access styleref through InsertQuickParts but I've never used it and word doesn't include it in their help files. -- oakridge "Stefan Blom" wrote: Indeed. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Often Word 2007 Help does point to one of these online topics, but there are no links to "advanced" topics, including most fields. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... One would think that help topics still relevant for Word 2007 (after some minor changes) could easily be added to Word 2007 help, but apparently that is a difficult task. sigh -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... When you can't find something in Help in Word 2007, the best resource is http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/wo...649261033.aspx, which provides access to the generally helpful Word 2003 Help file. But also see http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/StyleRef.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "oakridge" wrote in message news Thank you for your response Pam, I checked the link and not being familiar with styleref field - I did as it suggested and checked help for styleref field. Word 7 says it can't find any such thing. For more information about the STYLEREF field, click the Index tab in Microsoft Word 7.0 Help, type the following text STYLEREF -- oakridge "Pamelia Caswell via OfficeKB.com" wrote: A styleref field can do what you want. See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/141994 Pam oakridge wrote: I'm setting H&F in a long document. I have no problem with the odd/even numbering. However, I want the chapter name to change in the header on each chapter. I've read all the helps and cannot find my error. I think it's in the section breaks but can't figure out where I'm going wrong. It seems to work for a few chapters then it either reverts to the previous one or when I set the last chapter -- the headers all change to that chapter name. I've been workng on this all week with no luck. Would so much appreciate any help!! -- Message posted via OfficeKB.com http://www.officekb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...ayout/201004/1 . . |
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Note that when you add a section break, you should do so at the *end* of the text of your preceding chapter; otherwise you may very well end up with an extra page. Also, avoid excessive paragraph marks (¶) in the text. The rule is: one paragraph, one paragraph mark. (To display paragraph marks as well as other nonprinting marks, click the ¶ button on the Home tab.)
For Word to correctly handle "filler" pages, you need to enable "Different odd and even" or "Mirror margins" in Page Setup. By default, when you create a new section, Link to Previous (called Same as Previous in some versions of Word) is enabled for each header and each footer in the new section. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "oakridge" wrote in message ... Thank you for your suggestions. Maybe I can be more specific. I have a 6 chapter document. I want each chapter to start on an odd page. On the very first page I enter an odd section break. Enter even/odd page numbers -- then edit header to add the chapter title on the right hand side of the first page, next to the page #. For the next page -- an even page, I click the page numbers and select the even page (in this case I'm using Accent 1 & 2) Edit the header to reflect the even page text -- which remains the same throughout the document. No problem with this. At the beginning of chapter 2 I insert an odd page break, click to edit header and the Link to Connect button lights up. If I click on the header first -- the light goes dim. If I click on the button first, to disconnect, then edit the chapter title, it works. It works for two or three chapters, then when I advance to the next chapter, same process. Insert odd page break - -----now I want to change the chapter title but the link button is still dim. However, on the second page of the chapter it lights up. Here's where I start having problems. If I clink on the disconnect button on the 2nd page -- things start heading south fast. Even if I manually change the headers, it won't hold true when I move back and forth in the document. I understand word is adding a blank page to ensure odd page beginnings -- even when the next page is an odd one -- is this related to why I can't disconnect from the previous chapter to change the title? This is driving me crazy. Should I prepare the complete document then go back and insert the page #'s and headers? I thought I could just keep adding text, changing chapters as I came to them. You can access styleref through InsertQuickParts but I've never used it and word doesn't include it in their help files. -- oakridge "Stefan Blom" wrote: Indeed. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Often Word 2007 Help does point to one of these online topics, but there are no links to "advanced" topics, including most fields. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... One would think that help topics still relevant for Word 2007 (after some minor changes) could easily be added to Word 2007 help, but apparently that is a difficult task. sigh -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... When you can't find something in Help in Word 2007, the best resource is http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/wo...649261033.aspx, which provides access to the generally helpful Word 2003 Help file. But also see http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/StyleRef.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "oakridge" wrote in message news Thank you for your response Pam, I checked the link and not being familiar with styleref field - I did as it suggested and checked help for styleref field. Word 7 says it can't find any such thing. For more information about the STYLEREF field, click the Index tab in Microsoft Word 7.0 Help, type the following text STYLEREF -- oakridge "Pamelia Caswell via OfficeKB.com" wrote: A styleref field can do what you want. See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/141994 Pam oakridge wrote: I'm setting H&F in a long document. I have no problem with the odd/even numbering. However, I want the chapter name to change in the header on each chapter. I've read all the helps and cannot find my error. I think it's in the section breaks but can't figure out where I'm going wrong. It seems to work for a few chapters then it either reverts to the previous one or when I set the last chapter -- the headers all change to that chapter name. I've been workng on this all week with no luck. Would so much appreciate any help!! -- Message posted via OfficeKB.com http://www.officekb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...ayout/201004/1 . . |
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See also Suzanne's reply and her article at http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm.
-- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Note that when you add a section break, you should do so at the *end* of the text of your preceding chapter; otherwise you may very well end up with an extra page. Also, avoid excessive paragraph marks (¶) in the text. The rule is: one paragraph, one paragraph mark. (To display paragraph marks as well as other nonprinting marks, click the ¶ button on the Home tab.) For Word to correctly handle "filler" pages, you need to enable "Different odd and even" or "Mirror margins" in Page Setup. By default, when you create a new section, Link to Previous (called Same as Previous in some versions of Word) is enabled for each header and each footer in the new section. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "oakridge" wrote in message ... Thank you for your suggestions. Maybe I can be more specific. I have a 6 chapter document. I want each chapter to start on an odd page. On the very first page I enter an odd section break. Enter even/odd page numbers -- then edit header to add the chapter title on the right hand side of the first page, next to the page #. For the next page -- an even page, I click the page numbers and select the even page (in this case I'm using Accent 1 & 2) Edit the header to reflect the even page text -- which remains the same throughout the document. No problem with this. At the beginning of chapter 2 I insert an odd page break, click to edit header and the Link to Connect button lights up. If I click on the header first -- the light goes dim. If I click on the button first, to disconnect, then edit the chapter title, it works. It works for two or three chapters, then when I advance to the next chapter, same process. Insert odd page break - -----now I want to change the chapter title but the link button is still dim. However, on the second page of the chapter it lights up. Here's where I start having problems. If I clink on the disconnect button on the 2nd page -- things start heading south fast. Even if I manually change the headers, it won't hold true when I move back and forth in the document. I understand word is adding a blank page to ensure odd page beginnings -- even when the next page is an odd one -- is this related to why I can't disconnect from the previous chapter to change the title? This is driving me crazy. Should I prepare the complete document then go back and insert the page #'s and headers? I thought I could just keep adding text, changing chapters as I came to them. You can access styleref through InsertQuickParts but I've never used it and word doesn't include it in their help files. -- oakridge "Stefan Blom" wrote: Indeed. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Often Word 2007 Help does point to one of these online topics, but there are no links to "advanced" topics, including most fields. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... One would think that help topics still relevant for Word 2007 (after some minor changes) could easily be added to Word 2007 help, but apparently that is a difficult task. sigh -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... When you can't find something in Help in Word 2007, the best resource is http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/wo...649261033.aspx, which provides access to the generally helpful Word 2003 Help file. But also see http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/StyleRef.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "oakridge" wrote in message news Thank you for your response Pam, I checked the link and not being familiar with styleref field - I did as it suggested and checked help for styleref field. Word 7 says it can't find any such thing. For more information about the STYLEREF field, click the Index tab in Microsoft Word 7.0 Help, type the following text STYLEREF -- oakridge "Pamelia Caswell via OfficeKB.com" wrote: A styleref field can do what you want. See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/141994 Pam oakridge wrote: I'm setting H&F in a long document. I have no problem with the odd/even numbering. However, I want the chapter name to change in the header on each chapter. I've read all the helps and cannot find my error. I think it's in the section breaks but can't figure out where I'm going wrong. It seems to work for a few chapters then it either reverts to the previous one or when I set the last chapter -- the headers all change to that chapter name. I've been workng on this all week with no luck. Would so much appreciate any help!! -- Message posted via OfficeKB.com http://www.officekb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...ayout/201004/1 . . |
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Drinks are on me! Thank you for hanging in there.
Yes, you had it right as to what I was trying to achieve. Making the break at the end of a section made sense to me but I quote: ".. place the cursor at the beginning of the page where you want to start varying the header ----then click section break..." All the instructions I found said the same thing. I knew it had to be in the section breaks Everything else fell into line once I corrected that. Second - before I screw it up again....I have way too many P marks - but not sure how they get in. I tried to delete them in draft mode last night -- but it messed up the image placement. I am moving text and some images by entering or deleting spaces -- is that my problem there? Now I need to go back through the entire document and adjust the text and images. Will my pages align as I delete/add text? Will the page number and headers adjust? Need to find some info on styleref -- how to set the fields etc. I found one tutorial for 2004 and earlier so things are a little different. But I will keep looking. Thanks Again. Jan -- oakridge "Stefan Blom" wrote: See also Suzanne's reply and her article at http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Note that when you add a section break, you should do so at the *end* of the text of your preceding chapter; otherwise you may very well end up with an extra page. Also, avoid excessive paragraph marks (¶) in the text. The rule is: one paragraph, one paragraph mark. (To display paragraph marks as well as other nonprinting marks, click the ¶ button on the Home tab.) For Word to correctly handle "filler" pages, you need to enable "Different odd and even" or "Mirror margins" in Page Setup. By default, when you create a new section, Link to Previous (called Same as Previous in some versions of Word) is enabled for each header and each footer in the new section. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "oakridge" wrote in message ... Thank you for your suggestions. Maybe I can be more specific. I have a 6 chapter document. I want each chapter to start on an odd page. On the very first page I enter an odd section break. Enter even/odd page numbers -- then edit header to add the chapter title on the right hand side of the first page, next to the page #. For the next page -- an even page, I click the page numbers and select the even page (in this case I'm using Accent 1 & 2) Edit the header to reflect the even page text -- which remains the same throughout the document. No problem with this. At the beginning of chapter 2 I insert an odd page break, click to edit header and the Link to Connect button lights up. If I click on the header first -- the light goes dim. If I click on the button first, to disconnect, then edit the chapter title, it works. It works for two or three chapters, then when I advance to the next chapter, same process. Insert odd page break - -----now I want to change the chapter title but the link button is still dim. However, on the second page of the chapter it lights up. Here's where I start having problems. If I clink on the disconnect button on the 2nd page -- things start heading south fast. Even if I manually change the headers, it won't hold true when I move back and forth in the document. I understand word is adding a blank page to ensure odd page beginnings -- even when the next page is an odd one -- is this related to why I can't disconnect from the previous chapter to change the title? This is driving me crazy. Should I prepare the complete document then go back and insert the page #'s and headers? I thought I could just keep adding text, changing chapters as I came to them. You can access styleref through InsertQuickParts but I've never used it and word doesn't include it in their help files. -- oakridge "Stefan Blom" wrote: Indeed. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Often Word 2007 Help does point to one of these online topics, but there are no links to "advanced" topics, including most fields. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... One would think that help topics still relevant for Word 2007 (after some minor changes) could easily be added to Word 2007 help, but apparently that is a difficult task. sigh -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... When you can't find something in Help in Word 2007, the best resource is http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/wo...649261033.aspx, which provides access to the generally helpful Word 2003 Help file. But also see http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/StyleRef.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "oakridge" wrote in message news Thank you for your response Pam, I checked the link and not being familiar with styleref field - I did as it suggested and checked help for styleref field. Word 7 says it can't find any such thing. For more information about the STYLEREF field, click the Index tab in Microsoft Word 7.0 Help, type the following text STYLEREF -- oakridge "Pamelia Caswell via OfficeKB.com" wrote: A styleref field can do what you want. See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/141994 Pam oakridge wrote: I'm setting H&F in a long document. I have no problem with the odd/even numbering. However, I want the chapter name to change in the header on each chapter. I've read all the helps and cannot find my error. I think it's in the section breaks but can't figure out where I'm going wrong. It seems to work for a few chapters then it either reverts to the previous one or when I set the last chapter -- the headers all change to that chapter name. I've been workng on this all week with no luck. Would so much appreciate any help!! -- Message posted via OfficeKB.com http://www.officekb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...ayout/201004/1 . . . |
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Find the basic Help article on StyleRef fields at
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/wo...861931033.aspx and some additional information at http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/StyleRef.htm. Assuming you have used a specific style (such as Heading 1) for your chapter titles and nothing else, the StyleRef field will do what you need. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "oakridge" wrote in message ... Drinks are on me! Thank you for hanging in there. Yes, you had it right as to what I was trying to achieve. Making the break at the end of a section made sense to me but I quote: ".. place the cursor at the beginning of the page where you want to start varying the header ----then click section break..." All the instructions I found said the same thing. I knew it had to be in the section breaks Everything else fell into line once I corrected that. Second - before I screw it up again....I have way too many P marks - but not sure how they get in. I tried to delete them in draft mode last night -- but it messed up the image placement. I am moving text and some images by entering or deleting spaces -- is that my problem there? Now I need to go back through the entire document and adjust the text and images. Will my pages align as I delete/add text? Will the page number and headers adjust? Need to find some info on styleref -- how to set the fields etc. I found one tutorial for 2004 and earlier so things are a little different. But I will keep looking. Thanks Again. Jan -- oakridge "Stefan Blom" wrote: See also Suzanne's reply and her article at http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Note that when you add a section break, you should do so at the *end* of the text of your preceding chapter; otherwise you may very well end up with an extra page. Also, avoid excessive paragraph marks (¶) in the text. The rule is: one paragraph, one paragraph mark. (To display paragraph marks as well as other nonprinting marks, click the ¶ button on the Home tab.) For Word to correctly handle "filler" pages, you need to enable "Different odd and even" or "Mirror margins" in Page Setup. By default, when you create a new section, Link to Previous (called Same as Previous in some versions of Word) is enabled for each header and each footer in the new section. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "oakridge" wrote in message ... Thank you for your suggestions. Maybe I can be more specific. I have a 6 chapter document. I want each chapter to start on an odd page. On the very first page I enter an odd section break. Enter even/odd page numbers -- then edit header to add the chapter title on the right hand side of the first page, next to the page #. For the next page -- an even page, I click the page numbers and select the even page (in this case I'm using Accent 1 & 2) Edit the header to reflect the even page text -- which remains the same throughout the document. No problem with this. At the beginning of chapter 2 I insert an odd page break, click to edit header and the Link to Connect button lights up. If I click on the header first -- the light goes dim. If I click on the button first, to disconnect, then edit the chapter title, it works. It works for two or three chapters, then when I advance to the next chapter, same process. Insert odd page break - -----now I want to change the chapter title but the link button is still dim. However, on the second page of the chapter it lights up. Here's where I start having problems. If I clink on the disconnect button on the 2nd page -- things start heading south fast. Even if I manually change the headers, it won't hold true when I move back and forth in the document. I understand word is adding a blank page to ensure odd page beginnings -- even when the next page is an odd one -- is this related to why I can't disconnect from the previous chapter to change the title? This is driving me crazy. Should I prepare the complete document then go back and insert the page #'s and headers? I thought I could just keep adding text, changing chapters as I came to them. You can access styleref through InsertQuickParts but I've never used it and word doesn't include it in their help files. -- oakridge "Stefan Blom" wrote: Indeed. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Often Word 2007 Help does point to one of these online topics, but there are no links to "advanced" topics, including most fields. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... One would think that help topics still relevant for Word 2007 (after some minor changes) could easily be added to Word 2007 help, but apparently that is a difficult task. sigh -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... When you can't find something in Help in Word 2007, the best resource is http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/wo...649261033.aspx, which provides access to the generally helpful Word 2003 Help file. But also see http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/StyleRef.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "oakridge" wrote in message news Thank you for your response Pam, I checked the link and not being familiar with styleref field - I did as it suggested and checked help for styleref field. Word 7 says it can't find any such thing. For more information about the STYLEREF field, click the Index tab in Microsoft Word 7.0 Help, type the following text STYLEREF -- oakridge "Pamelia Caswell via OfficeKB.com" wrote: A styleref field can do what you want. See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/141994 Pam oakridge wrote: I'm setting H&F in a long document. I have no problem with the odd/even numbering. However, I want the chapter name to change in the header on each chapter. I've read all the helps and cannot find my error. I think it's in the section breaks but can't figure out where I'm going wrong. It seems to work for a few chapters then it either reverts to the previous one or when I set the last chapter -- the headers all change to that chapter name. I've been workng on this all week with no luck. Would so much appreciate any help!! -- Message posted via OfficeKB.com http://www.officekb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...ayout/201004/1 . . . |
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I'm glad you got it sorted (sort of).
When it comes to paragraph marks (pilcrows), such a nonprinting mark is added each time you press Enter. Deleting them can be done with Find and Replace, but if you have many objects/figures in the drawing layer, you may not want to do that, because each object is anchored to a paragraph, and deleting an anchor deletes the object as well. I'd leave the marks the way they are, for now--and for this document. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "oakridge" wrote in message ... Drinks are on me! Thank you for hanging in there. Yes, you had it right as to what I was trying to achieve. Making the break at the end of a section made sense to me but I quote: ".. place the cursor at the beginning of the page where you want to start varying the header ----then click section break..." All the instructions I found said the same thing. I knew it had to be in the section breaks Everything else fell into line once I corrected that. Second - before I screw it up again....I have way too many P marks - but not sure how they get in. I tried to delete them in draft mode last night -- but it messed up the image placement. I am moving text and some images by entering or deleting spaces -- is that my problem there? Now I need to go back through the entire document and adjust the text and images. Will my pages align as I delete/add text? Will the page number and headers adjust? Need to find some info on styleref -- how to set the fields etc. I found one tutorial for 2004 and earlier so things are a little different. But I will keep looking. Thanks Again. Jan -- oakridge "Stefan Blom" wrote: See also Suzanne's reply and her article at http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Note that when you add a section break, you should do so at the *end* of the text of your preceding chapter; otherwise you may very well end up with an extra page. Also, avoid excessive paragraph marks (¶) in the text. The rule is: one paragraph, one paragraph mark. (To display paragraph marks as well as other nonprinting marks, click the ¶ button on the Home tab.) For Word to correctly handle "filler" pages, you need to enable "Different odd and even" or "Mirror margins" in Page Setup. By default, when you create a new section, Link to Previous (called Same as Previous in some versions of Word) is enabled for each header and each footer in the new section. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "oakridge" wrote in message ... Thank you for your suggestions. Maybe I can be more specific. I have a 6 chapter document. I want each chapter to start on an odd page. On the very first page I enter an odd section break. Enter even/odd page numbers -- then edit header to add the chapter title on the right hand side of the first page, next to the page #. For the next page -- an even page, I click the page numbers and select the even page (in this case I'm using Accent 1 & 2) Edit the header to reflect the even page text -- which remains the same throughout the document. No problem with this. At the beginning of chapter 2 I insert an odd page break, click to edit header and the Link to Connect button lights up. If I click on the header first -- the light goes dim. If I click on the button first, to disconnect, then edit the chapter title, it works. It works for two or three chapters, then when I advance to the next chapter, same process. Insert odd page break - -----now I want to change the chapter title but the link button is still dim. However, on the second page of the chapter it lights up. Here's where I start having problems. If I clink on the disconnect button on the 2nd page -- things start heading south fast. Even if I manually change the headers, it won't hold true when I move back and forth in the document. I understand word is adding a blank page to ensure odd page beginnings -- even when the next page is an odd one -- is this related to why I can't disconnect from the previous chapter to change the title? This is driving me crazy. Should I prepare the complete document then go back and insert the page #'s and headers? I thought I could just keep adding text, changing chapters as I came to them. You can access styleref through InsertQuickParts but I've never used it and word doesn't include it in their help files. -- oakridge "Stefan Blom" wrote: Indeed. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... Often Word 2007 Help does point to one of these online topics, but there are no links to "advanced" topics, including most fields. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... One would think that help topics still relevant for Word 2007 (after some minor changes) could easily be added to Word 2007 help, but apparently that is a difficult task. sigh -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... When you can't find something in Help in Word 2007, the best resource is http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/wo...649261033.aspx, which provides access to the generally helpful Word 2003 Help file. But also see http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/StyleRef.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "oakridge" wrote in message news Thank you for your response Pam, I checked the link and not being familiar with styleref field - I did as it suggested and checked help for styleref field. Word 7 says it can't find any such thing. For more information about the STYLEREF field, click the Index tab in Microsoft Word 7.0 Help, type the following text STYLEREF -- oakridge "Pamelia Caswell via OfficeKB.com" wrote: A styleref field can do what you want. See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/141994 Pam oakridge wrote: I'm setting H&F in a long document. I have no problem with the odd/even numbering. However, I want the chapter name to change in the header on each chapter. I've read all the helps and cannot find my error. I think it's in the section breaks but can't figure out where I'm going wrong. It seems to work for a few chapters then it either reverts to the previous one or when I set the last chapter -- the headers all change to that chapter name. I've been workng on this all week with no luck. Would so much appreciate any help!! -- Message posted via OfficeKB.com http://www.officekb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...ayout/201004/1 . . . |
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