If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#11
|
|||
|
|||
MS Access, software app or a System?
"David W. Fenton" wrote:
=?Utf-8?B?Sm9keSBKZW5raW5z?= wrote in : In the works of the security officer that thinks that Access is a software app, a System has funding, O&M, hardware/software and specialized personnel hired to maintain it, etc,etc. I'm reading behind the lines that there's a failure to distinguish between: 1. Access the application, installed on a PC. 2. an Access application, which is an MDB/ACCDB that is a program itself that incidentally requires Access to be installed to run it. In the former case, Access is an application, not a system. In the latter, it's a system. I would guess that the parties with vested interests are not going to want to distinguish between Access and the advertising department's Assets Management application, that just so happens to use Access. But if they had any sense, they would make just that distinction. -- David W. Fenton http://www.dfenton.com/ usenet at dfenton dot com http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/ . So, just out of pure curiosity, how would you classify my Fleet Maintenance program that is a small db since we only have 38 trucks and 46 trailers. It has 4 years of maintenance records, about 6000 records, to include all pertinent data on the equipment and the vendors. It assigns and prints Purchase Orders and has about 6 forms and 12 reports. I have split it and put the be on the server. I'm the sole developer and maintainer and it's really only used by myself and one other. It's not "on anyones books" since the cost was minimal; MS Office 2007 Pro, several $50 books and my time at home and work. (I don't think we can count the alcohol consumed out of frustration...LOL) On the other hand, the records produced from this "app/system" proved a tire ring theft and per the DA saved our company $16,000. So....do I have an app or a system?? Cindy |
#12
|
|||
|
|||
MS Access, software app or a System?
=?Utf-8?B?Q2luZHk=?= wrote in
: "David W. Fenton" wrote: =?Utf-8?B?Sm9keSBKZW5raW5z?= wrote in : In the works of the security officer that thinks that Access is a software app, a System has funding, O&M, hardware/software and specialized personnel hired to maintain it, etc,etc. I'm reading behind the lines that there's a failure to distinguish between: 1. Access the application, installed on a PC. 2. an Access application, which is an MDB/ACCDB that is a program itself that incidentally requires Access to be installed to run it. In the former case, Access is an application, not a system. In the latter, it's a system. I would guess that the parties with vested interests are not going to want to distinguish between Access and the advertising department's Assets Management application, that just so happens to use Access. But if they had any sense, they would make just that distinction. So, just out of pure curiosity, how would you classify my Fleet Maintenance program that is a small db since we only have 38 trucks and 46 trailers. It has 4 years of maintenance records, about 6000 records, to include all pertinent data on the equipment and the vendors. It assigns and prints Purchase Orders and has about 6 forms and 12 reports. I have split it and put the be on the server. I'm the sole developer and maintainer and it's really only used by myself and one other. It's not "on anyones books" since the cost was minimal; MS Office 2007 Pro, several $50 books and my time at home and work. (I don't think we can count the alcohol consumed out of frustration...LOL) I'd call it a system. On the other hand, the records produced from this "app/system" proved a tire ring theft and per the DA saved our company $16,000. So....do I have an app or a system?? The key distinction to me seems to me whether they recognize that the application in this case is your fleet management app, not Access. And then the determination of whether it's a system or app should be made based on the characteristics of your fleet management app, rather than on the characteristics of Access. Classifying your app based on evaluating Access would be like classifying a VB app based on evaluating the runtime files needed for it (in old VB -- obviously from VB6 on, you could compile to EXE without need of the runtime files). -- David W. Fenton http://www.dfenton.com/ usenet at dfenton dot com http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/ |
#13
|
|||
|
|||
MS Access, software app or a System?
Security? CNA? What's the acronym, and what's the context?
If you mean, is Access a system that needs to be secured, yes, it's a system. People use the system to handle data and to automate tasks, and the system needs to have security audits and training. If you mean, is Access a system that needs to be administred, no, it's an app, part of MS office. Systems built using Access may need separate admin support, but MSACCESS.EXE should be supported as a small part of your standard desktop. (david) "Jody Jenkins" wrote in message ... There is a debate among our security people. Some say that MS Access is a software app, others considered a system and needs to be CNA`d. I say its a software app. Any thoughts. |
#14
|
|||
|
|||
MS Access, software app or a System?
All of the databases that I have created so far (21 of them) are used solely
by a small group of individuals, between 2-10 users per database. Our IT dept is responsible for MS Office O&M and I am only the DBA. All of the databases are secured. With that being said, I believe that MS Access is a application, not a system. "Jody Jenkins" wrote: There is a debate among our security people. Some say that MS Access is a software app, others considered a system and needs to be CNA`d. I say its a software app. Any thoughts. |
#15
|
|||
|
|||
MS Access, software app or a System?
Jody Jenkins wrote:
There is a debate among our security people. Some say that MS Access is a software app, others considered a system and needs to be CNA`d. I say its a software app. Any thoughts. Somewhere in the middle. Anyone could write a malicious MDB/ACCDB/MDE/ACCDE/etc file which deletes all files on the hard drive or network server. Or worse it encrypts those files with a hidden password. Then the owner of the app can demand a ransom. Or worse it could randomly make changes to every 10,000th byte in a random number of the files on the server. Mind you an Excel spreadsheet, Word document or DOS exe could do the same thing. Tony -- Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP Tony's Main MS Access pages - http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/ For a convenient utility to keep your users FEs and other files updated see http://www.autofeupdater.com/ Granite Fleet Manager http://www.granitefleet.com/ |
|
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|