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Old April 1st, 2010, 10:13 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.general
Jim S
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On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 16:37:09 -0400, Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook] wrote:

"Jim S" wrote in message
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Ok then please help me.
I now have an IMAP account only.

MY isp uses Google to store its mail so I have a set of personal folders
which include an inbox/outbox/sent items etc.
Q1 do I just collapse them and pretend they are not there or do they serve
a purpose?


Since IMAP cannot support a calendar, contacts, tasks, or a journal (i.e., any
non-mail type of folder), Outlook must have these folders. Moreover, an IMAP
account's folders cannot be specified as the default folders in Outlook's mail
profile settings. Outlook always created the full complement of default
folders in its default folder file, so along with the non-mail folders, you
also get the mail folders, like Inbox, Outbox, Deleted Items, and so on. If
you do not use the non-mail features of Outlook, then, yes, those folders
won't help you. You should consider using a program other than Outlook in
that case. I hear Thunderbird is a good, free mail client that handles IMAP
accounts well.

In my IMAP folders I have a Google Mail folder which has
All-mail/Bin/Drafts/Sent Mail/Spam/Starred
Q2 do I collapse this until I need it?


I usually specify "[Gmail]" as my folder root in the IMAP account settings. I
then right-click the IMAP folder root in the Navigation Pane, choose IMAP
Folders, and subscribe only to the folders I wish to see, selecting the option
to hide all non-subscribed folders. "All Mail", "Spam", and "Starred" are not
among the folders I want to appear. Doing this makes the gmail folders all
appear just under the root like Outlook normally presents folders.

In my IMAP folders, but outside Google Mail I have another Inbox (and all
the folders I dragged from my pop account before I deleted it.
Q3 Are these really the only folders I need?


That's fine. If you have moved all your messags to the server. Since they're
not under the "Gmail" structure, my method of configuring the account won't
work well for you unless you put those folders at the same level as the normal
Inbox (which means you'd probably have to rename the extra Inbox you created
that's "outside".


I understand (most of) what you say except that the Inbox was not created
by me and appears OUTSIDE the Gmail folder.
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Jim S
Tyneside UK
www.jimscott.co.uk
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Old April 5th, 2010, 02:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.general
Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]
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Default IMAP and Outlook 2007

"Jim S" wrote in message
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I understand (most of) what you say except that the Inbox was not created
by me and appears OUTSIDE the Gmail folder.


It's the same Inbox, then. If you wish to try what I suggest, nothing adverse
will happen. See if you like it.
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Old April 5th, 2010, 02:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.general
Jim S
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Default IMAP and Outlook 2007

On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:14:04 -0400, Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook] wrote:

"Jim S" wrote in message
...

I understand (most of) what you say except that the Inbox was not created
by me and appears OUTSIDE the Gmail folder.


It's the same Inbox, then. If you wish to try what I suggest, nothing adverse
will happen. See if you like it.


Nah.
It's the second or third time I have tried IMAP because - well no reason
really. I really don't feel comfortable with it and away from home I can
use webmail. So it's gone.
Thanks anyhow.
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Jim S
Tyneside UK
www.jimscott.co.uk
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Old April 6th, 2010, 09:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.general
Kjell B.[_2_]
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Jim S wrote:
On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:14:04 -0400, Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook] wrote:

"Jim S" wrote in message
...

I understand (most of) what you say except that the Inbox was not created
by me and appears OUTSIDE the Gmail folder.

It's the same Inbox, then. If you wish to try what I suggest, nothing adverse
will happen. See if you like it.


Nah.
It's the second or third time I have tried IMAP because - well no reason
really. I really don't feel comfortable with it and away from home I can
use webmail. So it's gone.
Thanks anyhow.


You can of course only use webmail for email still on the server. Those
downloaded via POP3 are normally not accessible when you're not at home
(i.e. unless you can and do use a "keep on server" option such as at
least Thunderbird has). The need for this depends on your use case
though. I

A benefit with IMAP is that you don't need to arrange for a backup
yourself. That should be taken care of by the mail service provider. In
the case of Google, I assume they could be trusted on that part.

I use IMAP whenever possible both due to that all my mails are available
from wherever I am plus the backup aspect. I think most webmail services
I've came across with ISPs are awkward from a usability point of view.
(If I happen to have the luck to have an Exchange server option, I'd go
for that. Even better if it is Exchange 2007 as the webmail service
provided by it is very good although not as the full Outlook client.)

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Kjell
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Old April 6th, 2010, 11:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.general
Jim S
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Default IMAP and Outlook 2007

On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 22:54:36 +0200, Kjell B. wrote:

Jim S wrote:
On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:14:04 -0400, Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook] wrote:

"Jim S" wrote in message
...

I understand (most of) what you say except that the Inbox was not created
by me and appears OUTSIDE the Gmail folder.
It's the same Inbox, then. If you wish to try what I suggest, nothing adverse
will happen. See if you like it.


Nah.
It's the second or third time I have tried IMAP because - well no reason
really. I really don't feel comfortable with it and away from home I can
use webmail. So it's gone.
Thanks anyhow.


You can of course only use webmail for email still on the server. Those
downloaded via POP3 are normally not accessible when you're not at home
(i.e. unless you can and do use a "keep on server" option such as at
least Thunderbird has). The need for this depends on your use case
though. I

A benefit with IMAP is that you don't need to arrange for a backup
yourself. That should be taken care of by the mail service provider. In
the case of Google, I assume they could be trusted on that part.

I use IMAP whenever possible both due to that all my mails are available
from wherever I am plus the backup aspect. I think most webmail services
I've came across with ISPs are awkward from a usability point of view.
(If I happen to have the luck to have an Exchange server option, I'd go
for that. Even better if it is Exchange 2007 as the webmail service
provided by it is very good although not as the full Outlook client.)


I know, I know but my isp's webmail uses Google so it's all always there.
--
Jim S
Tyneside UK
www.jimscott.co.uk
 




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