4th July Rules!

G'day!

Since the USA is supposed to be on holiday, how about rules for what
the rest of us will do today?

Suggestions to kick off with.

1. Start off with a rousing chorus of God Save the Queen or whatever
National Anthem you prefer as long as it's not Stars and Stripes.
2. All references to Bush and Kerry are banned!! You may however, bore
the pants off everyone else by discussions of your country's politics.
3. All are allowed to bitch about the USA centric nature of MS
products. (Even the MVP password forgets that there are two
hemispheres.)

BTW what is the current rate of tax paid on tea? And do you feel as if
you are adequately represented?

I'm outa here. Fast!

Happy Independence Day USA.

--
Regards
Norman Harker MVP (Excel)
Sydney, Australia

Hi Norman

bit bored are we?
as its bucketting down over here i'ld like to forget that there's two
hemispheres too and have their weather ...
seriously,
my suggestion for today's topics for us from down-under, at least, is "Do we
need an inderpendance day too?" (variation of the monarch vs republic
debate)

Happy 4th July - USA!

Cheers
JulieD


"Norman Harker" wrote in message
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G'day!

Since the USA is supposed to be on holiday, how about rules for what
the rest of us will do today?

Suggestions to kick off with.

1. Start off with a rousing chorus of God Save the Queen or whatever
National Anthem you prefer as long as it's not Stars and Stripes.
2. All references to Bush and Kerry are banned!! You may however, bore
the pants off everyone else by discussions of your country's politics.
3. All are allowed to bitch about the USA centric nature of MS
products. (Even the MVP password forgets that there are two
hemispheres.)

BTW what is the current rate of tax paid on tea? And do you feel as if
you are adequately represented?

I'm outa here. Fast!

Happy Independence Day USA.

--
Regards
Norman Harker MVP (Excel)
Sydney, Australia

Hi JulieD!

I noted that today's (Summer) temperature in London was lower than our
(Winter) temperature in Sydney.

With dual nationality, I'm (British) pro Monarchy and (Australian)
Republican. It goes with the split personality.

Happy Excel-ing
--
Regards
Norman Harker MVP (Excel)
Sydney, Australia

I live in England, am European, anti-monarchy, anti-current politics with
it's presidential style emphasis on the leader, celebrity based as well.

Bob

"Norman Harker" wrote in message
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Hi JulieD!

I noted that today's (Summer) temperature in London was lower than our
(Winter) temperature in Sydney.

With dual nationality, I'm (British) pro Monarchy and (Australian)
Republican. It goes with the split personality.

Happy Excel-ing
--
Regards
Norman Harker MVP (Excel)
Sydney, Australia

If you're not yet bored enough, how 'bout a nice textual comparison of the
US Constitution, with or without amendments, to the proposed EU one.

FTHOI,

http://www.house.gov/Constitution/Constitution.html

and

http://europa.eu.int/futurum/documen...80604_2_en.pdf

Speaking purely from my own peculiar biases, beware of fundamental laws that
require tables of contents.

Hi Harlan!

I much prefer the USA one. But you can keep the second amendment.

But the British Constitution has stood the test of time; there isn't
one!

Not much to complain about with Excel though apart from those date
issues that come through VBA.

Happy Independence Day to you and yours.

--
Regards
Norman Harker MVP (Excel)
Sydney, Australia

Yes but look where it gets us, the most secretive 'democratic' society, and
the most introspective, jingoistic to boot.

Nothing to commend itself here as far as I can see.

Bob

"Norman Harker" wrote in message
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Hi Harlan!

I much prefer the USA one. But you can keep the second amendment.

But the British Constitution has stood the test of time; there isn't
one!

Not much to complain about with Excel though apart from those date
issues that come through VBA.

Happy Independence Day to you and yours.

--
Regards
Norman Harker MVP (Excel)
Sydney, Australia

"Bob Phillips" wrote...
Yes but look where it gets us, the most secretive 'democratic'
society, and the most introspective, jingoistic to boot.

Nothing to commend itself here as far as I can see.
....

The US will always be the most introspective country on the planet. Comes
with the history. As for jingoistic, your country's press obviously doesn't
show much of what's going on outside Washington, D.C. I live on a street
where the 'No War in Iraq' signs are as common as the USMC flags.

Harlan,

I would suggest that the US is more insular, but I have never seen it as an
introspective country. It's brash, overt confidence seems quite the opposite
to me, even if most Americans don't own a passport, that there are
currencies other than the dollar in the world, or know that there is a
world beyond their borders.

Seeing you mention the EU constitution was a revelation, not because it was
you, but because I didn't think that the EU constitution got a mention in
your land. The post from Paul in Georgia confirmed a lot of my suspicions.

I still maintain though that despite efforts to curb your freedoms, you have
more personal freedoms than us, and it is more difficult to suppress things
in your country.

It is good to hear that all shades of opinion are being voiced.

Bob

"Harlan Grove" wrote in message
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"Bob Phillips" wrote...
Yes but look where it gets us, the most secretive 'democratic'
society, and the most introspective, jingoistic to boot.

Nothing to commend itself here as far as I can see.
...

The US will always be the most introspective country on the planet. Comes
with the history. As for jingoistic, your country's press obviously
doesn't
show much of what's going on outside Washington, D.C. I live on a street
where the 'No War in Iraq' signs are as common as the USMC flags.

Norman, hope you are having a great day, sunny and about 89 degrees, F, here
at this time. I know this is not a gun control newsgroup but I had to
comment on your statement
"But you can keep the second amendment"

I for one am thankful we have the second amendment, without it I feel we
could lose a lot more of them, a quick search on gun control in Australia
found this, and a lot more..

Since Australia banned private ownership of most guns in 1996, crime has
risen dramatically, After Australian lawmakers passed widespread gun bans,
owners were forced to surrender about 650,000 weapons, Though lawmakers
responsible for passing the ban promised a safer country, the nation's crime
statistics tell a different story:
Countrywide, homicides are up 3.2 percent; Assaults are up 8.6 percent;
Amazingly, armed robberies have climbed nearly 45 percent;
In the Australian state of Victoria, gun homicides have climbed 300 percent;
In the 25 years before the gun bans, crime in Australia had been dropping
steadily;

And in the US, with Right-to-Carry laws, (RTC) where more states, 38 at
this time, an all time high, are putting laws on the books that respect the
right to self-defense by allowing individual citizens to carry firearms for
protection.

The nation's violent crime rate has decreased every year since 1991 and in
2002 hit a 23-year low. In the same period, 17 states adopted and 13 states
improved RTC laws. RTC states have lower violent crime rates, on average:
24% lower total violent crime, 22% lower murder, 37% lower robbery, and 20%
lower aggravated assault. The five states with the lowest violent crime
rates are RTC states. (Data: FBI)

Thanks for taking the time to posting the vast knowledge of excel that you
have, to help others

Paul B
Nicholson, Georgia USA

"Norman Harker" wrote in message
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Hi Harlan!

I much prefer the USA one. But you can keep the second amendment.

But the British Constitution has stood the test of time; there isn't
one!

Not much to complain about with Excel though apart from those date
issues that come through VBA.

Happy Independence Day to you and yours.

--
Regards
Norman Harker MVP (Excel)
Sydney, Australia