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  #11  
Old July 6th, 2009, 08:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Ray Cox
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Posts: 3
Default Outlook express generates wbk files in temp folder!

If I waited for a month before cleaning these files out, I would end up
waiting literally minutes any time I needed to see a dialog box which listed
files (Open or Save) or opened Windows Explorer to see a directory listing
(and yes, things speed up immediately when they are deleted). I thought
that the definition of temporary files or a temporary folder was just
that...something a program needed only temporarily and which did not need to
persist. IMO (and I am a programmer) any program worth it's salt should
clean up after itself like any responsible adult if it generates temporary
files and/or directories.

It's obvious that these files aren't critical to have around as the only
advice that is seemingly given is to "just delete them." So why doesn't the
MS program that creates them delete them on closing the program or when they
are no longer needed?

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
[Please don't kill the messenger.]

Run Disk Cleanup once a month then or delete the contents of the folder
manually.

Please note that not all IE8 users are seeing this.

No-charge support for Internet Explorer 8 installation, set-up and usage
(only) is available via the phone based on your locale through 31 December
2009. Customers must be running Windows XP or Windows Vista in a
non-domain environment.
= US & CA Residents: 1-866-234-6020
= Other locales:
https://support.microsoft.com/oas/de...px?&prid=13043


Ray Cox wrote:
Why should I have to run a utility every single day to keep my computer
operating as well as it used to?

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
So? Run Disk Cleanup and delete them.

Ray Cox wrote:
At least when they were placed in the TIF folder, all they slowed down
was
the browser. By placing them in the Users temp area, they slow down
everything!

"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...

Why now? You installed IE8.

With IE6 or IE7, OE (and Windows Live Mail) puts those files in the
Temporary Internet Files (TIF). It isn't readily apparent that the
files
are there since they don't show up with the common ways of looking at
the
TIF. Paste the following into Windows Explorer to see them
%userprofile%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\
Those files stay in the TIF until you manually clear the TIF including
offline content or possibly using some automated TIF clearing
utilities.

With IE8, OE seems unable to use the TIF and so they go in the Windows
temp folder.


--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"Kevin" wrote in message
...
Outlook Express has started leaving loads of wbk files in the XP temp
folder everytime I look at saved emails or new emails that contain
either
pictues, gifs ,jpg or HTML format.
It never used to do it so why now?
Disk cleanup does NOT delete them.




  #12  
Old July 6th, 2009, 10:57 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
PA Bear [MS MVP]
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Posts: 2,690
Default Outlook express generates wbk files in temp folder!

Repost:
No-charge support for Internet Explorer 8 installation, set-up and usage
(only) is available via the phone based on your locale through 31 December
2009. Customers must be running Windows XP or Windows Vista in a
non-domain environment.
= US & CA Residents: 1-866-234-6020
= Other locales:
https://support.microsoft.com/oas/de...px?&prid=13043



Ray Cox wrote:
If I waited for a month before cleaning these files out, I would end up
waiting literally minutes any time I needed to see a dialog box which
listed
files (Open or Save) or opened Windows Explorer to see a directory listing
(and yes, things speed up immediately when they are deleted). I thought
that the definition of temporary files or a temporary folder was just
that...something a program needed only temporarily and which did not need
to
persist. IMO (and I am a programmer) any program worth it's salt should
clean up after itself like any responsible adult if it generates temporary
files and/or directories.

It's obvious that these files aren't critical to have around as the only
advice that is seemingly given is to "just delete them." So why doesn't
the
MS program that creates them delete them on closing the program or when
they
are no longer needed?

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
[Please don't kill the messenger.]

Run Disk Cleanup once a month then or delete the contents of the folder
manually.

Please note that not all IE8 users are seeing this.

No-charge support for Internet Explorer 8 installation, set-up and usage
(only) is available via the phone based on your locale through 31
December
2009. Customers must be running Windows XP or Windows Vista in a
non-domain environment.
= US & CA Residents: 1-866-234-6020
= Other locales:
https://support.microsoft.com/oas/de...px?&prid=13043


Ray Cox wrote:
Why should I have to run a utility every single day to keep my computer
operating as well as it used to?

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
So? Run Disk Cleanup and delete them.

Ray Cox wrote:
At least when they were placed in the TIF folder, all they slowed down
was
the browser. By placing them in the Users temp area, they slow down
everything!

"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...

Why now? You installed IE8.

With IE6 or IE7, OE (and Windows Live Mail) puts those files in the
Temporary Internet Files (TIF). It isn't readily apparent that the
files
are there since they don't show up with the common ways of looking at
the
TIF. Paste the following into Windows Explorer to see them
%userprofile%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\
Those files stay in the TIF until you manually clear the TIF
including
offline content or possibly using some automated TIF clearing
utilities.

With IE8, OE seems unable to use the TIF and so they go in the
Windows
temp folder.


--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"Kevin" wrote in message
...
Outlook Express has started leaving loads of wbk files in the XP
temp
folder everytime I look at saved emails or new emails that contain
either
pictues, gifs ,jpg or HTML format.
It never used to do it so why now?
Disk cleanup does NOT delete them.


  #13  
Old July 25th, 2009, 10:48 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Daisy Bell
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Posts: 2
Default Outlook express generates wbk files in temp folder!

I have searched all over the Internet for a remedy to this situation. I KNOW
that this problem started after I intalled IE8! I KNOW that it is Outlook
Express that is generating these files because I have BOTH OE and Win Temp
windows open at once and can literally SEE two or three of these files (not
just one!) being created every single time I reply, save, delete, transfer an
e-mail to another folder or send an e-mail! I now just delete them at
regular intervals throughout the day, (a real chore and feel it's just
several more jobs that need to be done in the name of 'Good Housekeeping' on
my PC!) I really cannot see why, as there are so many complaints about this,
Microsoft can't come up with a 'Fix' for it! I have rread recently of a
suggestion that there may be a connection to a file in the Adobe Reader or
Acrobat programs (LogTransport2.exe) but I feel this just complicates the
issue, as I have had Adobe Reader for years and never had a problem before
installing IE8!

"Ray Cox" wrote:

If I waited for a month before cleaning these files out, I would end up
waiting literally minutes any time I needed to see a dialog box which listed
files (Open or Save) or opened Windows Explorer to see a directory listing
(and yes, things speed up immediately when they are deleted). I thought
that the definition of temporary files or a temporary folder was just
that...something a program needed only temporarily and which did not need to
persist. IMO (and I am a programmer) any program worth it's salt should
clean up after itself like any responsible adult if it generates temporary
files and/or directories.

It's obvious that these files aren't critical to have around as the only
advice that is seemingly given is to "just delete them." So why doesn't the
MS program that creates them delete them on closing the program or when they
are no longer needed?

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
[Please don't kill the messenger.]

Run Disk Cleanup once a month then or delete the contents of the folder
manually.

Please note that not all IE8 users are seeing this.

No-charge support for Internet Explorer 8 installation, set-up and usage
(only) is available via the phone based on your locale through 31 December
2009. Customers must be running Windows XP or Windows Vista in a
non-domain environment.
= US & CA Residents: 1-866-234-6020
= Other locales:
https://support.microsoft.com/oas/de...px?&prid=13043


Ray Cox wrote:
Why should I have to run a utility every single day to keep my computer
operating as well as it used to?

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
So? Run Disk Cleanup and delete them.

Ray Cox wrote:
At least when they were placed in the TIF folder, all they slowed down
was
the browser. By placing them in the Users temp area, they slow down
everything!

"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...

Why now? You installed IE8.

With IE6 or IE7, OE (and Windows Live Mail) puts those files in the
Temporary Internet Files (TIF). It isn't readily apparent that the
files
are there since they don't show up with the common ways of looking at
the
TIF. Paste the following into Windows Explorer to see them
%userprofile%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\
Those files stay in the TIF until you manually clear the TIF including
offline content or possibly using some automated TIF clearing
utilities.

With IE8, OE seems unable to use the TIF and so they go in the Windows
temp folder.


--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"Kevin" wrote in message
...
Outlook Express has started leaving loads of wbk files in the XP temp
folder everytime I look at saved emails or new emails that contain
either
pictues, gifs ,jpg or HTML format.
It never used to do it so why now?
Disk cleanup does NOT delete them.





  #14  
Old July 25th, 2009, 11:35 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Ron Sommer
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Posts: 1,059
Default Outlook express generates wbk files in temp folder!

Are you saying that you have used Adobe Reader for years and have never
updated it? My Reader wants to update every time it is opened.
--
Ron Sommer

"Daisy Bell" wrote in message
news
I have searched all over the Internet for a remedy to this situation. I
KNOW
that this problem started after I intalled IE8! I KNOW that it is Outlook
Express that is generating these files because I have BOTH OE and Win Temp
windows open at once and can literally SEE two or three of these files
(not
just one!) being created every single time I reply, save, delete, transfer
an
e-mail to another folder or send an e-mail! I now just delete them at
regular intervals throughout the day, (a real chore and feel it's just
several more jobs that need to be done in the name of 'Good Housekeeping'
on
my PC!) I really cannot see why, as there are so many complaints about
this,
Microsoft can't come up with a 'Fix' for it! I have rread recently of a
suggestion that there may be a connection to a file in the Adobe Reader or
Acrobat programs (LogTransport2.exe) but I feel this just complicates the
issue, as I have had Adobe Reader for years and never had a problem before
installing IE8!

"Ray Cox" wrote:

If I waited for a month before cleaning these files out, I would end up
waiting literally minutes any time I needed to see a dialog box which
listed
files (Open or Save) or opened Windows Explorer to see a directory
listing
(and yes, things speed up immediately when they are deleted). I thought
that the definition of temporary files or a temporary folder was just
that...something a program needed only temporarily and which did not need
to
persist. IMO (and I am a programmer) any program worth it's salt should
clean up after itself like any responsible adult if it generates
temporary
files and/or directories.

It's obvious that these files aren't critical to have around as the only
advice that is seemingly given is to "just delete them." So why doesn't
the
MS program that creates them delete them on closing the program or when
they
are no longer needed?

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
[Please don't kill the messenger.]

Run Disk Cleanup once a month then or delete the contents of the folder
manually.

Please note that not all IE8 users are seeing this.

No-charge support for Internet Explorer 8 installation, set-up and
usage
(only) is available via the phone based on your locale through 31
December
2009. Customers must be running Windows XP or Windows Vista in a
non-domain environment.
= US & CA Residents: 1-866-234-6020
= Other locales:
https://support.microsoft.com/oas/de...px?&prid=13043


Ray Cox wrote:
Why should I have to run a utility every single day to keep my
computer
operating as well as it used to?

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
So? Run Disk Cleanup and delete them.

Ray Cox wrote:
At least when they were placed in the TIF folder, all they slowed
down
was
the browser. By placing them in the Users temp area, they slow down
everything!

"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...

Why now? You installed IE8.

With IE6 or IE7, OE (and Windows Live Mail) puts those files in the
Temporary Internet Files (TIF). It isn't readily apparent that
the
files
are there since they don't show up with the common ways of looking
at
the
TIF. Paste the following into Windows Explorer to see them
%userprofile%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\
Those files stay in the TIF until you manually clear the TIF
including
offline content or possibly using some automated TIF clearing
utilities.

With IE8, OE seems unable to use the TIF and so they go in the
Windows
temp folder.


--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"Kevin" wrote in message
...
Outlook Express has started leaving loads of wbk files in the XP
temp
folder everytime I look at saved emails or new emails that contain
either
pictues, gifs ,jpg or HTML format.
It never used to do it so why now?
Disk cleanup does NOT delete them.




  #15  
Old July 25th, 2009, 12:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Daisy Bell
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Posts: 2
Default Outlook express generates wbk files in temp folder!

No of course not! I meant I have used this program for years. Of course it's
been updated! It's V.9 now. I meant that I haven't had a problem with Adobe
before, apart from, as you say, it's always trying to update itself! I've
taken its entry out of my startup items now and that does help. However,
most of the time, after I've used the program, I find the entry back in the
startup again! Anyway, no, I don't think it's Adobe at all. I've been
monitoring this carefully all morning now and find that every time I click on
an e-mail to read it, two of these files are created in Win Temp. Also, if I
click on one of my folders in OE, the same thing happens. In fact, I can't
really do much of anything in OE without two files being created in Win Temp!
One thing I have noticed however, is when I close down OE, some of the
latterly created files disappear. There are always some of the earlier ones
from my OE session remaining though. Anyway, at least these files can be
deleted immediately; seemingly without any ill effects!

"Ron Sommer" wrote:

Are you saying that you have used Adobe Reader for years and have never
updated it? My Reader wants to update every time it is opened.
--
Ron Sommer

"Daisy Bell" wrote in message
news
I have searched all over the Internet for a remedy to this situation. I
KNOW
that this problem started after I intalled IE8! I KNOW that it is Outlook
Express that is generating these files because I have BOTH OE and Win Temp
windows open at once and can literally SEE two or three of these files
(not
just one!) being created every single time I reply, save, delete, transfer
an
e-mail to another folder or send an e-mail! I now just delete them at
regular intervals throughout the day, (a real chore and feel it's just
several more jobs that need to be done in the name of 'Good Housekeeping'
on
my PC!) I really cannot see why, as there are so many complaints about
this,
Microsoft can't come up with a 'Fix' for it! I have rread recently of a
suggestion that there may be a connection to a file in the Adobe Reader or
Acrobat programs (LogTransport2.exe) but I feel this just complicates the
issue, as I have had Adobe Reader for years and never had a problem before
installing IE8!

"Ray Cox" wrote:

If I waited for a month before cleaning these files out, I would end up
waiting literally minutes any time I needed to see a dialog box which
listed
files (Open or Save) or opened Windows Explorer to see a directory
listing
(and yes, things speed up immediately when they are deleted). I thought
that the definition of temporary files or a temporary folder was just
that...something a program needed only temporarily and which did not need
to
persist. IMO (and I am a programmer) any program worth it's salt should
clean up after itself like any responsible adult if it generates
temporary
files and/or directories.

It's obvious that these files aren't critical to have around as the only
advice that is seemingly given is to "just delete them." So why doesn't
the
MS program that creates them delete them on closing the program or when
they
are no longer needed?

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
[Please don't kill the messenger.]

Run Disk Cleanup once a month then or delete the contents of the folder
manually.

Please note that not all IE8 users are seeing this.

No-charge support for Internet Explorer 8 installation, set-up and
usage
(only) is available via the phone based on your locale through 31
December
2009. Customers must be running Windows XP or Windows Vista in a
non-domain environment.
= US & CA Residents: 1-866-234-6020
= Other locales:
https://support.microsoft.com/oas/de...px?&prid=13043


Ray Cox wrote:
Why should I have to run a utility every single day to keep my
computer
operating as well as it used to?

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
So? Run Disk Cleanup and delete them.

Ray Cox wrote:
At least when they were placed in the TIF folder, all they slowed
down
was
the browser. By placing them in the Users temp area, they slow down
everything!

"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...

Why now? You installed IE8.

With IE6 or IE7, OE (and Windows Live Mail) puts those files in the
Temporary Internet Files (TIF). It isn't readily apparent that
the
files
are there since they don't show up with the common ways of looking
at
the
TIF. Paste the following into Windows Explorer to see them
%userprofile%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\
Those files stay in the TIF until you manually clear the TIF
including
offline content or possibly using some automated TIF clearing
utilities.

With IE8, OE seems unable to use the TIF and so they go in the
Windows
temp folder.


--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"Kevin" wrote in message
...
Outlook Express has started leaving loads of wbk files in the XP
temp
folder everytime I look at saved emails or new emails that contain
either
pictues, gifs ,jpg or HTML format.
It never used to do it so why now?
Disk cleanup does NOT delete them.





  #16  
Old July 25th, 2009, 03:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
PA Bear [MS MVP]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,690
Default Outlook express generates wbk files in temp folder!

When you were running IE7 and earlier, those same files (one for every
message and attachment you opened & every time you opened it) were created
in a hidden subfolder of Temporary Internet Files folder. With IE8
installed, they're now in %windows%\TEMP folder.

When you were running IE7 and earlier, the files were subject to the
Temporary Internet Files limit you chose he IE Tools | Internet Options |
General | Browsing History (or Temporary Internet Files in IE6) | Settings |
Disk space to use. As such, they were deleted on a LIFO-basis when you
exceeded the limit. Or they were deleted when you chose to use the 'Delete
Temporary Internet Files' function.

With IE8 installed, you'll need to delete them manually or via Disk Cleanup
after rebooting.

MS is not going to change this. Why? My guess is that IE8 was developed
primarily with Windows 7 in mind (as IE7 was developed with Vista in mind).
Since Win7 doesn't include any default Mail Client (not OE, not Windows
Mail, not Windows Live Mail) tied to IE8, the files are saved elsewhere.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


Daisy Bell wrote:
I have searched all over the Internet for a remedy to this situation. I
KNOW that this problem started after I intalled IE8! I KNOW that it is
Outlook Express that is generating these files because I have BOTH OE and
Win Temp windows open at once and can literally SEE two or three of these
files (not just one!) being created every single time I reply, save,
delete, transfer an e-mail to another folder or send an e-mail! I now
just
delete them at regular intervals throughout the day, (a real chore and
feel
it's just several more jobs that need to be done in the name of 'Good
Housekeeping' on my PC!) I really cannot see why, as there are so many
complaints about this, Microsoft can't come up with a 'Fix' for it! ...

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