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Old February 25th, 2010, 08:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.tables
Stefan Blom[_3_]
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Default spurious paragraph styles appearing in tables

Good to know that the old macro is still useful...

I do find it disturbing that the char styles get created even though I don't
make use of the "Keep track of formatting" feature.

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"DeanH" wrote in message
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Exactly, the only place where I found them too.
I use the following macro to remove them so they don't show up, even on
the
F&R Styles listing.
http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindy...p.htm#CharStyl

All the best
DeanH


"Pamelia Caswell via OfficeKB.com" wrote:

Yes, I found them there too.

Stefan Blom wrote:
For what it's worth, here is how I discovered char styles in Word 2007:
In
the Find and Replace dialog box, click More, and then click Format,
Style.
Take a look at the style listings in the dialog box. :-(


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Old February 26th, 2010, 02:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.tables
Pamelia Caswell via OfficeKB.com
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Default spurious paragraph styles appearing in tables

The keep track of formatting has nothing to do with the creation of unlinked
styles. It just tells you when any instance of a style has direct formatting.
It a report and doesn't affect the style itself.

Styles break in W2002 and 3 when you apply a style to just part of a in a
different style paragraph or when you paste text in one style into part of a
paragraph of another style. One or both of the styles would have to be
linked. We couldn't tell when a style was linked except for a brief time with
W2003. BTW, MS describes the cause of char styles he
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/902064. But I never thought their hot fix
fixed anything.

I suspect that MS hides the unlinked styles because, though the linked do not
represent a corrupt or damaged document, deleting an unlinked style can
cause minor damage to a document and cause Word to close. (I've done so many
a time, and gladly, just to get rid of the flaky styles behavior.) But to
MS.) So they must think that the best way to keep users from damaging
documents that are perfectly OK (as far as they are concerned) is to hide
things from them. Sigh.

From what I can tell, linked styles don't break in W2007.

Pam


Pam


Stefan Blom wrote:
Good to know that the old macro is still useful...

I do find it disturbing that the char styles get created even though I don't
make use of the "Keep track of formatting" feature.

Exactly, the only place where I found them too.
I use the following macro to remove them so they don't show up, even on

[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
Style.
Take a look at the style listings in the dialog box. :-(


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Old February 26th, 2010, 05:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.tables
Stefan Blom[_3_]
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Default spurious paragraph styles appearing in tables

You are right: I confused two things here. :-(

However, in Word 2007, I never apply a paragraph style to a selection, and I
have also selected "Disable Linked Styles" in the Styles pane, and still (as
discussed earlier in this thread) I obviously get the char styles anyway.

So I'd say that what is causing char styles in Word 2007 remains a mystery.

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"Pamelia Caswell via OfficeKB.com" u43222@uwe wrote in message
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The keep track of formatting has nothing to do with the creation of
unlinked
styles. It just tells you when any instance of a style has direct
formatting.
It a report and doesn't affect the style itself.

Styles break in W2002 and 3 when you apply a style to just part of a in a
different style paragraph or when you paste text in one style into part of
a
paragraph of another style. One or both of the styles would have to be
linked. We couldn't tell when a style was linked except for a brief time
with
W2003. BTW, MS describes the cause of char styles he
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/902064. But I never thought their hot fix
fixed anything.

I suspect that MS hides the unlinked styles because, though the linked do
not
represent a corrupt or damaged document, deleting an unlinked style can
cause minor damage to a document and cause Word to close. (I've done so
many
a time, and gladly, just to get rid of the flaky styles behavior.) But to
MS.) So they must think that the best way to keep users from damaging
documents that are perfectly OK (as far as they are concerned) is to hide
things from them. Sigh.

From what I can tell, linked styles don't break in W2007.

Pam


Pam


Stefan Blom wrote:
Good to know that the old macro is still useful...

I do find it disturbing that the char styles get created even though I
don't
make use of the "Keep track of formatting" feature.

Exactly, the only place where I found them too.
I use the following macro to remove them so they don't show up, even on

[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
Style.
Take a look at the style listings in the dialog box. :-(


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Old February 28th, 2010, 03:08 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.tables
Pamelia Caswell via OfficeKB.com
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Default spurious paragraph styles appearing in tables

Interesting. Early on with W2007, I did everything I could think of to break
a style and couldn't. But because of all the often unannounced changes since
about 2005 and because I work mainly in compatibility mode, I was loath to
say that styles don't break in W2007, but I was pretty sure they didn't. I
do get them in files created in W2003 and when I paste from 2003 docs into
2007. It worries me that you've gotten them.

Pam

Stefan Blom wrote:
You are right: I confused two things here. :-(

However, in Word 2007, I never apply a paragraph style to a selection, and I
have also selected "Disable Linked Styles" in the Styles pane, and still (as
discussed earlier in this thread) I obviously get the char styles anyway.

So I'd say that what is causing char styles in Word 2007 remains a mystery.

The keep track of formatting has nothing to do with the creation of
unlinked

[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
Style.
Take a look at the style listings in the dialog box. :-(


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