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Old August 13th, 2009, 04:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring
figbat
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Default British Summer Time is NOT GMT!

In Outlook, during British Summer Time (GMT+1), Calendar appointments still
refer to the scheduled time of a correctly timed meeting or appointment as
"GMT". My PC clock is correct, as is my time zone and daylight savings
setting.

It is the reference to the time made in the meeting request if you
subsequently reply to or request a new time for a meeting. This causes great
confusion amongst my colleagues and I, situated in different time zones, when
they request a new time for a meeting, Outlook tells me the new request is
for xx:xx GMT but it actually means BST. I have to ask the requestor what
time they actually meant!

Google reveals I am not alone in this!
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Old August 13th, 2009, 06:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring
Diane Poremsky [MVP]
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Default British Summer Time is NOT GMT!

Outlook uses the time zone settings in Windows - what do you have set for
your time zone?

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"figbat" wrote in message
...
In Outlook, during British Summer Time (GMT+1), Calendar appointments
still
refer to the scheduled time of a correctly timed meeting or appointment as
"GMT". My PC clock is correct, as is my time zone and daylight savings
setting.

It is the reference to the time made in the meeting request if you
subsequently reply to or request a new time for a meeting. This causes
great
confusion amongst my colleagues and I, situated in different time zones,
when
they request a new time for a meeting, Outlook tells me the new request is
for xx:xx GMT but it actually means BST. I have to ask the requestor what
time they actually meant!

Google reveals I am not alone in this!


  #3  
Old August 13th, 2009, 10:07 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring
figbat
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Default British Summer Time is NOT GMT!

I have the timezone set to "GMT: Dublin, Edinburgh...etc", which is correct
for my location in England, and I have daylight saving update automatically
applied. I work with colleagues in mainland Europe, and when they send a
request for time change for an existing, pre-agreed and correctly timed
meeting, the text in the e-mail that gets sent says the time of the meeting
is xx:xx GMT, when it actually means xx:xx BST (which is GMT+1). All the
times themselves are correct, but the text that describes them is wrong,
leading to the confusion.

"Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote:

Outlook uses the time zone settings in Windows - what do you have set for
your time zone?

--
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Let's Really Fix Outlook 2010
http://forums.slipstick.com/forumdisplay.php?f=34

"figbat" wrote in message
...
In Outlook, during British Summer Time (GMT+1), Calendar appointments
still
refer to the scheduled time of a correctly timed meeting or appointment as
"GMT". My PC clock is correct, as is my time zone and daylight savings
setting.

It is the reference to the time made in the meeting request if you
subsequently reply to or request a new time for a meeting. This causes
great
confusion amongst my colleagues and I, situated in different time zones,
when
they request a new time for a meeting, Outlook tells me the new request is
for xx:xx GMT but it actually means BST. I have to ask the requestor what
time they actually meant!

Google reveals I am not alone in this!



  #4  
Old August 13th, 2009, 10:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring
Diane Poremsky [MVP]
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Default British Summer Time is NOT GMT!

That text is taken from the time zone definitions in the windows registry -
outlook has no control over it. You could edit the entry to say BST...


--
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"figbat" wrote in message
...
I have the timezone set to "GMT: Dublin, Edinburgh...etc", which is
correct
for my location in England, and I have daylight saving update
automatically
applied. I work with colleagues in mainland Europe, and when they send a
request for time change for an existing, pre-agreed and correctly timed
meeting, the text in the e-mail that gets sent says the time of the
meeting
is xx:xx GMT, when it actually means xx:xx BST (which is GMT+1). All the
times themselves are correct, but the text that describes them is wrong,
leading to the confusion.

"Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote:

Outlook uses the time zone settings in Windows - what do you have set for
your time zone?

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com

Outlook Tips by email:


EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:


Let's Really Fix Outlook 2010
http://forums.slipstick.com/forumdisplay.php?f=34

"figbat" wrote in message
...
In Outlook, during British Summer Time (GMT+1), Calendar appointments
still
refer to the scheduled time of a correctly timed meeting or appointment
as
"GMT". My PC clock is correct, as is my time zone and daylight savings
setting.

It is the reference to the time made in the meeting request if you
subsequently reply to or request a new time for a meeting. This causes
great
confusion amongst my colleagues and I, situated in different time
zones,
when
they request a new time for a meeting, Outlook tells me the new request
is
for xx:xx GMT but it actually means BST. I have to ask the requestor
what
time they actually meant!

Google reveals I am not alone in this!



  #5  
Old August 14th, 2009, 09:45 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring
figbat
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Default British Summer Time is NOT GMT!

In that case the fundamental basis of the registry is wrong. Windows should
sort this out, not leave it to countless clients to "edit the entry" to
compensate.

I believe the issue arises because GMT is a fixed timezone. Unlike others
(like CET, EST etc) it doesn't change in the summer. For example, EST is
called EST whether it is summer time or winter time - it just moves an hour
back and forth in between. However GMT is a fixed timezone; it so happens
that in the winter, the UK (and a few other places) are aligned with GMT, so
use GMT as the nominated timezone. However, in the summer the local time
moves forward by an hour, but GMT does not change! The UK now becomes GMT+1,
locally known as British Summer Time (BST). It seems that Outlook/Windows
treats GMT like any other timezone and assumes it moves an hour in the
summer, BUT IT DOESN'T!

The ideal situation would be for those of us who live near the Greenwick
Meridian to actually have a timezone name that isn't called GMT, let's call
it NE Atlantic Time (NEAT). In winter it would equate to GMT but in summer
it wouldn't - that way the same name could be applied all year round.

"Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote:

That text is taken from the time zone definitions in the windows registry -
outlook has no control over it. You could edit the entry to say BST...


--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com

Outlook Tips by email:


EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:


Let's Really Fix Outlook 2010
http://forums.slipstick.com/forumdisplay.php?f=34

"figbat" wrote in message
...
I have the timezone set to "GMT: Dublin, Edinburgh...etc", which is
correct
for my location in England, and I have daylight saving update
automatically
applied. I work with colleagues in mainland Europe, and when they send a
request for time change for an existing, pre-agreed and correctly timed
meeting, the text in the e-mail that gets sent says the time of the
meeting
is xx:xx GMT, when it actually means xx:xx BST (which is GMT+1). All the
times themselves are correct, but the text that describes them is wrong,
leading to the confusion.

"Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote:

Outlook uses the time zone settings in Windows - what do you have set for
your time zone?

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com

Outlook Tips by email:


EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:


Let's Really Fix Outlook 2010
http://forums.slipstick.com/forumdisplay.php?f=34

"figbat" wrote in message
...
In Outlook, during British Summer Time (GMT+1), Calendar appointments
still
refer to the scheduled time of a correctly timed meeting or appointment
as
"GMT". My PC clock is correct, as is my time zone and daylight savings
setting.

It is the reference to the time made in the meeting request if you
subsequently reply to or request a new time for a meeting. This causes
great
confusion amongst my colleagues and I, situated in different time
zones,
when
they request a new time for a meeting, Outlook tells me the new request
is
for xx:xx GMT but it actually means BST. I have to ask the requestor
what
time they actually meant!

Google reveals I am not alone in this!



  #6  
Old August 14th, 2009, 06:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring
Brian Tillman [MVP - Outlook]
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Default British Summer Time is NOT GMT!

"figbat" wrote in message
...

In that case the fundamental basis of the registry is wrong. Windows should
sort this out, not leave it to countless clients to "edit the entry" to
compensate.


Sounds like you should contact Microsoft with your concerns. Posting in this
newsgroup doesn't do that.
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Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]

 




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