Licensing question

Hello!

I think I know the answer to this one (no!), but I would like to confirm it.
At one point in time, I think Microsoft allowed Office to be installed on
two computers (a laptop and a desktop, for example) as long as both were not
in use at the same time. Does this hold true for Office 2003?

I have a user with two computers running and a KVM switch to switch between
the two. Technically, only one computer can be used at a time. Would that
allow installation of Office 2003 on both from one license, or do they need
two licenses?

Gregg Hill

Gregg Hill wrote:
Hello!

I think I know the answer to this one (no!), but I would like to
confirm it. At one point in time, I think Microsoft allowed Office to
be installed on two computers (a laptop and a desktop, for example)
as long as both were not in use at the same time. Does this hold true
for Office 2003?

I have a user with two computers running and a KVM switch to switch
between the two. Technically, only one computer can be used at a
time. Would that allow installation of Office 2003 on both from one
license, or do they need two licenses?

Gregg Hill


The licensing is thus: -

A desktop and a portable (two systems of the same type would require two
licences - /unless/ the licence was for the STE which allows installation on
up to three systems in any combination), providing that

1) They aren't in simultaneous use

and

2) Are for the /exclusive/ use of the licencee.

So, if the laptop was going to be used exclusively by your wife, for
example, she would require her own licence.

--
My great-grandfather was born and raised in Elgin - did he eventually
lose his marbles?

Hey Greg,

Are you really worried about licensing issues? I thought a practical guy like
you would toss the EULA out of the window and apply the rules in a practical,
common sense manner. However, You might want to read this:

http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...lient_eula.pdf

You can find all EULAs he

http://www.microsoft.com/office/eula/en.mspx

Sorry, I can't answer your question directly on this newsgroup but then I am a
lawyer!

--
I use non Microsoft products whenever possible which requires no activation.


Gregg Hill wrote:

Hello!

I think I know the answer to this one (no!), but I would like to confirm it.
At one point in time, I think Microsoft allowed Office to be installed on
two computers (a laptop and a desktop, for example) as long as both were not
in use at the same time. Does this hold true for Office 2003?

I have a user with two computers running and a KVM switch to switch between
the two. Technically, only one computer can be used at a time. Would that
allow installation of Office 2003 on both from one license, or do they need
two licenses?

Gregg Hill

David,

I am not sure, but I think you were trying to insult me. What makes you
think I would choose common sense or practicality over the law? If I were
not concerned with doing it legally, do you think I would have posted the
question in the first place?

Practicality can often be illegal...and the law supersedes common sense, as
you know all too well, being a lawyer.

Thanks for the links.

Gregg Hill



"David" wrote in message
...
Hey Greg,

Are you really worried about licensing issues? I thought a practical guy
like
you would toss the EULA out of the window and apply the rules in a
practical,
common sense manner. However, You might want to read this:


http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...lient_eula.pdf

You can find all EULAs he

http://www.microsoft.com/office/eula/en.mspx

Sorry, I can't answer your question directly on this newsgroup but then I
am a
lawyer!

--
I use non Microsoft products whenever possible which requires no
activation.


Gregg Hill wrote:

Hello!

I think I know the answer to this one (no!), but I would like to confirm
it.
At one point in time, I think Microsoft allowed Office to be installed
on
two computers (a laptop and a desktop, for example) as long as both were
not
in use at the same time. Does this hold true for Office 2003?

I have a user with two computers running and a KVM switch to switch
between
the two. Technically, only one computer can be used at a time. Would
that
allow installation of Office 2003 on both from one license, or do they
need
two licenses?

Gregg Hill

Pardon my ignorance, but what is STE?

Gregg Hill

"Miss Perspicacia Tick" wrote in message
.. .
Gregg Hill wrote:
Hello!

I think I know the answer to this one (no!), but I would like to
confirm it. At one point in time, I think Microsoft allowed Office to
be installed on two computers (a laptop and a desktop, for example)
as long as both were not in use at the same time. Does this hold true
for Office 2003?

I have a user with two computers running and a KVM switch to switch
between the two. Technically, only one computer can be used at a
time. Would that allow installation of Office 2003 on both from one
license, or do they need two licenses?

Gregg Hill


The licensing is thus: -

A desktop and a portable (two systems of the same type would require two
licences - /unless/ the licence was for the STE which allows installation
on
up to three systems in any combination), providing that

1) They aren't in simultaneous use

and

2) Are for the /exclusive/ use of the licencee.

So, if the laptop was going to be used exclusively by your wife, for
example, she would require her own licence.

--
My great-grandfather was born and raised in Elgin - did he eventually
lose his marbles?

STE = Students and Teachers Edition.

--�
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Gregg Hill asked:

| Pardon my ignorance, but what is STE?
|
| Gregg Hill
|
| "Miss Perspicacia Tick" wrote in message
| .. .
|| Gregg Hill wrote:
||| Hello!
|||
||| I think I know the answer to this one (no!), but I would like to
||| confirm it. At one point in time, I think Microsoft allowed Office
||| to be installed on two computers (a laptop and a desktop, for
||| example)
||| as long as both were not in use at the same time. Does this hold
||| true for Office 2003?
|||
||| I have a user with two computers running and a KVM switch to switch
||| between the two. Technically, only one computer can be used at a
||| time. Would that allow installation of Office 2003 on both from one
||| license, or do they need two licenses?
|||
||| Gregg Hill
||
||
|| The licensing is thus: -
||
|| A desktop and a portable (two systems of the same type would require
|| two licences - /unless/ the licence was for the STE which allows
|| installation on up to three systems in any combination), providing
|| that
||
|| 1) They aren't in simultaneous use
||
|| and
||
|| 2) Are for the /exclusive/ use of the licencee.
||
|| So, if the laptop was going to be used exclusively by your wife, for
|| example, she would require her own licence.
||
|| --
|| My great-grandfather was born and raised in Elgin - did he eventually
|| lose his marbles?

Milly,

Since people always tell me that "you learn something new every day", does
that mean that I qualify as a student? Bummer, I didn't think so either!

Thanks for the explanation.

Gregg Hill



"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
wrote in message ...
STE = Students and Teachers Edition.

--�
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Gregg Hill asked:

| Pardon my ignorance, but what is STE?
|
| Gregg Hill
|
| "Miss Perspicacia Tick" wrote in message
| .. .
|| Gregg Hill wrote:
||| Hello!
|||
||| I think I know the answer to this one (no!), but I would like to
||| confirm it. At one point in time, I think Microsoft allowed Office
||| to be installed on two computers (a laptop and a desktop, for
||| example)
||| as long as both were not in use at the same time. Does this hold
||| true for Office 2003?
|||
||| I have a user with two computers running and a KVM switch to switch
||| between the two. Technically, only one computer can be used at a
||| time. Would that allow installation of Office 2003 on both from one
||| license, or do they need two licenses?
|||
||| Gregg Hill
||
||
|| The licensing is thus: -
||
|| A desktop and a portable (two systems of the same type would require
|| two licences - /unless/ the licence was for the STE which allows
|| installation on up to three systems in any combination), providing
|| that
||
|| 1) They aren't in simultaneous use
||
|| and
||
|| 2) Are for the /exclusive/ use of the licencee.
||
|| So, if the laptop was going to be used exclusively by your wife, for
|| example, she would require her own licence.
||
|| --
|| My great-grandfather was born and raised in Elgin - did he eventually
|| lose his marbles?

I being reading the xp general newsgroup. It always has been with
any office version. That can install it on one computer and a
portable computer. It can not to be used at the same time

However, the xp student allows 3 computers. Home computer, School
computer, Laptop.

This was told to the posters by an msft.

Greg R


On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 19:37:53 -0700, "Gregg Hill" wrote:

David,

I am not sure, but I think you were trying to insult me. What makes you
think I would choose common sense or practicality over the law? If I were
not concerned with doing it legally, do you think I would have posted the
question in the first place?

Practicality can often be illegal...and the law supersedes common sense, as
you know all too well, being a lawyer.

Thanks for the links.

Gregg Hill



"David" wrote in message
...
Hey Greg,

Are you really worried about licensing issues? I thought a practical guy
like
you would toss the EULA out of the window and apply the rules in a
practical,
common sense manner. However, You might want to read this:


http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...lient_eula.pdf

You can find all EULAs he

http://www.microsoft.com/office/eula/en.mspx

Sorry, I can't answer your question directly on this newsgroup but then I
am a
lawyer!

--
I use non Microsoft products whenever possible which requires no
activation.


Gregg Hill wrote:

Hello!

I think I know the answer to this one (no!), but I would like to confirm
it.
At one point in time, I think Microsoft allowed Office to be installed
on
two computers (a laptop and a desktop, for example) as long as both were
not
in use at the same time. Does this hold true for Office 2003?

I have a user with two computers running and a KVM switch to switch
between
the two. Technically, only one computer can be used at a time. Would
that
allow installation of Office 2003 on both from one license, or do they
need
two licenses?

Gregg Hill




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Greg R wrote:
I being reading the xp general newsgroup. It always has been with
any office version. That can install it on one computer and a
portable computer. It can not to be used at the same time

However, the xp student allows 3 computers. Home computer, School
computer, Laptop.

This was told to the posters by an msft.

Greg R


Just because someone works for MS, doesn't make their word gospel. This
person should have checked their facts because, if that is what they said
and you haven't just misinterpreted, they're talking out their arse. The STE
version of Office XP is one licence *PER SYSTEM*. As I stated earlier, the
three system rule only applies to the STE of 2003 - *AND NO OTHER VERSION*.
It also doesn't specify how the three installations may be used - all three
computers could be at home - or at school, they could all be desktops or
they could all be laptops - it makes no difference.

It also doesn't apply to "any Office version" - the retail (not STE) may be
installed on one desktop and one laptop, provided the conditions I stated in
my earlier post are met. An OEM licence is tied to the computer it was first
installed on, and cannot be removed and installed on any other.

Don't repeat 'information' you have heard elsewhere without checking it
first - whether the person works for MS or not. Someone who works in the
Windows dept probably doesn't have a clue what the licensing is for Office
and vice versa.

Please don't post unless you are 100% sure of the facts and have double
checked them first. What you have posted is completely false.



--
My great-grandfather was born and raised in Elgin - did he eventually
lose his marbles?

Gregg Hill wrote:
Milly,

Since people always tell me that "you learn something new every day",
does that mean that I qualify as a student? Bummer, I didn't think so
either!

Thanks for the explanation.

Gregg Hill


No it doesn't. I was merely quoting it to make the picture as complete as
possible.



--
My great-grandfather was born and raised in Elgin - did he eventually
lose his marbles?