Networked Office

I think you have the option upon installing if you want to install Office to
a server, but I am thinking if you have 10 users it is going to slow down
your server badly. Is there a particular reason you dont want to install on
the workstations? You can setup admin install of office to install just like
Outlook installs on SBS client upon connection.


"Sarah Tanembaum" wrote in message
...
Is it possible to run office from a server?

We just purchased 10 brand new PC with Windows XP Pro Pre-installed, an a
server with ample of memory and disk space.

We also purchase a 15-user license of Microsoft Office 2003 Professional.

Instead of installing MS Office 2003 on all the workstation, is there a
way
to run Office from a server?

I know of the terminal services/citrix way but that is out of the question
as it will add cost per client.

Thanks

No, you can either run Office from a TS/Citrix environment or you can
install it locally. You can create an admin installation point on the
server and have the clients load office via a logon script when they first
start Windows. But you cannot run it from a plain server.

--�
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
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After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Sarah Tanembaum
asked:

| Is it possible to run office from a server?
|
| We just purchased 10 brand new PC with Windows XP Pro Pre-installed,
| an a server with ample of memory and disk space.
|
| We also purchase a 15-user license of Microsoft Office 2003
| Professional.
|
| Instead of installing MS Office 2003 on all the workstation, is there
| a way to run Office from a server?
|
| I know of the terminal services/citrix way but that is out of the
| question as it will add cost per client.
|
| Thanks

Is it possible to run office from a server?

We just purchased 10 brand new PC with Windows XP Pro Pre-installed, an a
server with ample of memory and disk space.

We also purchase a 15-user license of Microsoft Office 2003 Professional.

Instead of installing MS Office 2003 on all the workstation, is there a way
to run Office from a server?

I know of the terminal services/citrix way but that is out of the question
as it will add cost per client.

Thanks

I'm trying to use my server as a file server, where I will store all the
Office executable. If MS so willing, then they can tell us what registry
setting on the local machine has to change so each of my workstation can run
office apps, e.g. MS Word, Excel, and other, right from their workstation?

Is it a technology issues that prevent this to happen? What's the big
problem since other OSes can handle multi-user apps?

Imagine if I can do that, everytime the workstation crashed and corrupted
the disk, all I have to do is install the os, mount the directory where
office reside, and voile ... it's back up again. Also, when the office need
upgrade, all I have to do is to upgrade the one on the server and again,
those 10(or for that matter 100K)workstation has their office upgraded!

Any ideas?




"Chris Jones" wrote in message
...
I think you have the option upon installing if you want to install Office
to
a server, but I am thinking if you have 10 users it is going to slow down
your server badly. Is there a particular reason you dont want to install
on
the workstations? You can setup admin install of office to install just
like
Outlook installs on SBS client upon connection.


"Sarah Tanembaum" wrote in message
...
Is it possible to run office from a server?

We just purchased 10 brand new PC with Windows XP Pro Pre-installed, an
a
server with ample of memory and disk space.

We also purchase a 15-user license of Microsoft Office 2003
Professional.

Instead of installing MS Office 2003 on all the workstation, is there a
way
to run Office from a server?

I know of the terminal services/citrix way but that is out of the
question
as it will add cost per client.

Thanks

Why not possible?

Thanks.

"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
wrote in message ...
No, you can either run Office from a TS/Citrix environment or you can
install it locally. You can create an admin installation point on the
server and have the clients load office via a logon script when they first
start Windows. But you cannot run it from a plain server.

--�
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Sarah Tanembaum
asked:

| Is it possible to run office from a server?
|
| We just purchased 10 brand new PC with Windows XP Pro Pre-installed,
| an a server with ample of memory and disk space.
|
| We also purchase a 15-user license of Microsoft Office 2003
| Professional.
|
| Instead of installing MS Office 2003 on all the workstation, is there
| a way to run Office from a server?
|
| I know of the terminal services/citrix way but that is out of the
| question as it will add cost per client.
|
| Thanks

Sarah, what you have described is called 'Windows Terminal Server'. You are
right about the fact that by installing Office on one system, and letting
everyone access it reduces administrative issues. But, SBS2003 does not
allow you to configure Terminal Server on the SBS server itself. You can add
a separate system to act as a terminal server alongside your SBS server. The
temrinal server would house your Office apps, and your SBS server would
handle Exchange/email, Internet access, and file/print services.

--
Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]
"The days pass by so quickly now, the nights are seldom long"


"Sarah Tanembaum" wrote in message
...
I'm trying to use my server as a file server, where I will store all the
Office executable. If MS so willing, then they can tell us what registry
setting on the local machine has to change so each of my workstation can
run
office apps, e.g. MS Word, Excel, and other, right from their
workstation?

Is it a technology issues that prevent this to happen? What's the big
problem since other OSes can handle multi-user apps?

Imagine if I can do that, everytime the workstation crashed and corrupted
the disk, all I have to do is install the os, mount the directory where
office reside, and voile ... it's back up again. Also, when the office
need
upgrade, all I have to do is to upgrade the one on the server and again,
those 10(or for that matter 100K)workstation has their office upgraded!

Any ideas?




"Chris Jones" wrote in message
...
I think you have the option upon installing if you want to install
Office
to
a server, but I am thinking if you have 10 users it is going to slow
down
your server badly. Is there a particular reason you dont want to install
on
the workstations? You can setup admin install of office to install just
like
Outlook installs on SBS client upon connection.


"Sarah Tanembaum" wrote in message
...
Is it possible to run office from a server?

We just purchased 10 brand new PC with Windows XP Pro Pre-installed,
an
a
server with ample of memory and disk space.

We also purchase a 15-user license of Microsoft Office 2003
Professional.

Instead of installing MS Office 2003 on all the workstation, is there
a
way
to run Office from a server?

I know of the terminal services/citrix way but that is out of the
question
as it will add cost per client.

Thanks

"KevinK" wrote in message
...
Technically it can be installed and run from the server,
and would save the problem of updating all 10 PCs.

How? Does MS supply a setup script for workstation to run office from
network-mounted-disk?


But as Chris mentioned, it would use huge amounts of the network.

This is not an issues for us. We have ample bandwidth to spare.


You can copy the CDs to the server and install to each
workstation from there.

This does not make any sense. Why can I just use them from network
disk(attached to each workstation), and execute the apps from there? This is
time consuming and it just plain old technology.

The only thing I can think of is if MS is collaborating with:
1. Disk vendors -- so we need to buy a lots of disk space
to store the same executable programs
2. Consultant -- more billable time(yeah.)

But seriously, why don't they(MS) make our lives(SysAdmin) a bit easier?

Once installed, don't
forget "Office Update" as opposed to "Windows Update"

-----Original Message-----
Is it possible to run office from a server?

We just purchased 10 brand new PC with Windows XP Pro
Pre-installed, an a
server with ample of memory and disk space.

We also purchase a 15-user license of Microsoft Office
2003 Professional.

Instead of installing MS Office 2003 on all the
workstation, is there a way
to run Office from a server?

I know of the terminal services/citrix way but that is
out of the question
as it will add cost per client.

Thanks


.

Thanks Kevin. Unfortunately the terminal services are out of the question.
We have pretty powerful workstation and server, why would I use my
workstation
as a terminal(Isn't this goes again MS ideology)?

Secondly, why would I pay an additional license for each workstation
to access the terminal server. It is just not economical.

Or perhaps Microsoft is still ironing-out on how to implement this this type
of
technology(networked-multi-user-multi-task-apps)?

Thanks


"Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]" wrote in message
...
Sarah, what you have described is called 'Windows Terminal Server'. You
are
right about the fact that by installing Office on one system, and letting
everyone access it reduces administrative issues. But, SBS2003 does not
allow you to configure Terminal Server on the SBS server itself. You can
add
a separate system to act as a terminal server alongside your SBS server.
The
temrinal server would house your Office apps, and your SBS server would
handle Exchange/email, Internet access, and file/print services.

--
Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]
"The days pass by so quickly now, the nights are seldom long"


"Sarah Tanembaum" wrote in message
...
I'm trying to use my server as a file server, where I will store all the
Office executable. If MS so willing, then they can tell us what registry
setting on the local machine has to change so each of my workstation can
run
office apps, e.g. MS Word, Excel, and other, right from their
workstation?

Is it a technology issues that prevent this to happen? What's the big
problem since other OSes can handle multi-user apps?

Imagine if I can do that, everytime the workstation crashed and
corrupted
the disk, all I have to do is install the os, mount the directory where
office reside, and voile ... it's back up again. Also, when the office
need
upgrade, all I have to do is to upgrade the one on the server and again,
those 10(or for that matter 100K)workstation has their office upgraded!

Any ideas?




"Chris Jones" wrote in message
...
I think you have the option upon installing if you want to install
Office
to
a server, but I am thinking if you have 10 users it is going to slow
down
your server badly. Is there a particular reason you dont want to
install
on
the workstations? You can setup admin install of office to install
just
like
Outlook installs on SBS client upon connection.


"Sarah Tanembaum" wrote in message
...
Is it possible to run office from a server?

We just purchased 10 brand new PC with Windows XP Pro Pre-installed,
an
a
server with ample of memory and disk space.

We also purchase a 15-user license of Microsoft Office 2003
Professional.

Instead of installing MS Office 2003 on all the workstation, is
there
a
way
to run Office from a server?

I know of the terminal services/citrix way but that is out of the
question
as it will add cost per client.

Thanks

Sarah,

There's different solutions available to fit different needs. By your post
it appears that you bought your solution before determining your needs. If
your need and desire is to administer a single installation of Office for
all of your users, then Terminal Services is a valid solution.

Is this against MS idealogy? Not in my mind, since there are many, many
companies, both large and small, that have installed Terminal Services as a
solution. As with all needs/solutions, you weight the benefits, the pros and
cons, and make the best choice possible.

You say it's not economical. But compared to what? It appears that you
consider the time and cost of administrative overhead in maintaining,
upgrading, and patching standard PC's with individual copies of Windows and
Office installed on each PC to be a high priority issue. So, if you can
reduce the overhead and hassle of administering such a network, then you've
answered your own question: yes, it's economical.

Don't know what you mean by claiming that Microsoft is still ironing out how
to implement such a solution. I previously managed the IT dept for a large
health care facility that has over 200 users operating on Microsoft Windows
Terminal Server. You want to talk about economical? You want to talk about
redundancy? You want to talk about ease of administering such network? You
want to talk about implementing new security policies?

No, a TS environment is not for all ... but don't just knock it ... it is a
valid solution for those with the need of such a solution.

--
Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]
"The days pass by so quickly now, the nights are seldom long"


"Sarah Tanembaum" wrote in message
...
Thanks Kevin. Unfortunately the terminal services are out of the question.
We have pretty powerful workstation and server, why would I use my
workstation
as a terminal(Isn't this goes again MS ideology)?

Secondly, why would I pay an additional license for each workstation
to access the terminal server. It is just not economical.

Or perhaps Microsoft is still ironing-out on how to implement this this
type
of
technology(networked-multi-user-multi-task-apps)?

Thanks


"Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]" wrote in message
...
Sarah, what you have described is called 'Windows Terminal Server'. You
are
right about the fact that by installing Office on one system, and
letting
everyone access it reduces administrative issues. But, SBS2003 does not
allow you to configure Terminal Server on the SBS server itself. You can
add
a separate system to act as a terminal server alongside your SBS server.
The
temrinal server would house your Office apps, and your SBS server would
handle Exchange/email, Internet access, and file/print services.

--
Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]
"The days pass by so quickly now, the nights are seldom long"


"Sarah Tanembaum" wrote in message
...
I'm trying to use my server as a file server, where I will store all
the
Office executable. If MS so willing, then they can tell us what
registry
setting on the local machine has to change so each of my workstation
can
run
office apps, e.g. MS Word, Excel, and other, right from their
workstation?

Is it a technology issues that prevent this to happen? What's the big
problem since other OSes can handle multi-user apps?

Imagine if I can do that, everytime the workstation crashed and
corrupted
the disk, all I have to do is install the os, mount the directory
where
office reside, and voile ... it's back up again. Also, when the office
need
upgrade, all I have to do is to upgrade the one on the server and
again,
those 10(or for that matter 100K)workstation has their office
upgraded!

Any ideas?




"Chris Jones" wrote in message
...
I think you have the option upon installing if you want to install
Office
to
a server, but I am thinking if you have 10 users it is going to slow
down
your server badly. Is there a particular reason you dont want to
install
on
the workstations? You can setup admin install of office to install
just
like
Outlook installs on SBS client upon connection.


"Sarah Tanembaum" wrote in message
...
Is it possible to run office from a server?

We just purchased 10 brand new PC with Windows XP Pro
Pre-installed,
an
a
server with ample of memory and disk space.

We also purchase a 15-user license of Microsoft Office 2003
Professional.

Instead of installing MS Office 2003 on all the workstation, is
there
a
way
to run Office from a server?

I know of the terminal services/citrix way but that is out of the
question
as it will add cost per client.

Thanks

Hi Sarah

You can run the executables from the server if you wish but a certain number
of DLLs will have to be on the WS. You don't want to do this though because
your Office programs will run as slow as mollasses because the executables
will have to be loaded across the 100 mb network lines instead of from a
much faster HD unless you are using Terminal services where only the video
is transmitted across the Network and even that is slower than running
local. The only time you would want to run from server is if you had
extremely small Hard Disks which make no sense with the price of HDs these
days.

Frank McCallister
COMPUMAC


"Sarah Tanembaum" wrote in message
...
Thanks Kevin. Unfortunately the terminal services are out of the question.
We have pretty powerful workstation and server, why would I use my
workstation
as a terminal(Isn't this goes again MS ideology)?

Secondly, why would I pay an additional license for each workstation
to access the terminal server. It is just not economical.

Or perhaps Microsoft is still ironing-out on how to implement this this
type
of
technology(networked-multi-user-multi-task-apps)?

Thanks


"Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]" wrote in message
...
Sarah, what you have described is called 'Windows Terminal Server'. You
are
right about the fact that by installing Office on one system, and letting
everyone access it reduces administrative issues. But, SBS2003 does not
allow you to configure Terminal Server on the SBS server itself. You can
add
a separate system to act as a terminal server alongside your SBS server.
The
temrinal server would house your Office apps, and your SBS server would
handle Exchange/email, Internet access, and file/print services.

--
Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]
"The days pass by so quickly now, the nights are seldom long"


"Sarah Tanembaum" wrote in message
...
I'm trying to use my server as a file server, where I will store all
the
Office executable. If MS so willing, then they can tell us what
registry
setting on the local machine has to change so each of my workstation
can
run
office apps, e.g. MS Word, Excel, and other, right from their
workstation?

Is it a technology issues that prevent this to happen? What's the big
problem since other OSes can handle multi-user apps?

Imagine if I can do that, everytime the workstation crashed and
corrupted
the disk, all I have to do is install the os, mount the directory where
office reside, and voile ... it's back up again. Also, when the office
need
upgrade, all I have to do is to upgrade the one on the server and
again,
those 10(or for that matter 100K)workstation has their office upgraded!

Any ideas?




"Chris Jones" wrote in message
...
I think you have the option upon installing if you want to install
Office
to
a server, but I am thinking if you have 10 users it is going to slow
down
your server badly. Is there a particular reason you dont want to
install
on
the workstations? You can setup admin install of office to install
just
like
Outlook installs on SBS client upon connection.


"Sarah Tanembaum" wrote in message
...
Is it possible to run office from a server?

We just purchased 10 brand new PC with Windows XP Pro
Pre-installed,
an
a
server with ample of memory and disk space.

We also purchase a 15-user license of Microsoft Office 2003
Professional.

Instead of installing MS Office 2003 on all the workstation, is
there
a
way
to run Office from a server?

I know of the terminal services/citrix way but that is out of the
question
as it will add cost per client.

Thanks