Permanent loop security warning importing Contacts from PST file

Hi, I wonder if someone could help me, I'm kind of at my wit's end with this.
Apologies for post length, I figured more detail upfront is better. Here's
the deal...

I got a new 32-bit Vista laptop, copied all the Outlook data over and
reinstalled Outlook (2002). I used Windows Update when prompted, which
patched me up to SP3. I opened all my old PST files that I use to sort /
store emails etc. So far so good.

Then I tried to import my old primary mailbox into the new mailbox on the
new install. It imported most of the old emails, sent items etc but then when
it got to Contacts, I got the Outlook security warning message: "A program is
trying to access email addresses... " and the options to allow access, Yes
or No. I clicked Yes, and the message pops up again. I click yes again.
Same thing. Short story, no matter what I do I can't clear this warning, it
just keeps popping up. This includes terminating the application through
Task manager, and rebooting. When I restart Outlook, it checks the PST files
that were not closed properly, then carries on trying to import the contacts,
and the warning pops up again.

I'd be very grateful if someone can advise how to stop Outlook from looping
like this, short of uninstalling and reinstalling and repatching (and I don't
even know whether THAT would work!) Thanks for ploughing through to the end,
and thanks in advance for your help!

I don't understand why you would ever use import to transfer Outlook data
when we have posted so clearly and so frequently that importing is never the
correct way to transfer Outlook data. Did you think your results would be
different? If so, why? How do you expect us to help you? Your post is far to
deficient on the details we would need to do so. You mention PST files and
mailboxes in the same sentence. They do not belong in the same sentence.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Adam Radcliffe" Adam wrote in message
...
Hi, I wonder if someone could help me, I'm kind of at my wit's end with
this.
Apologies for post length, I figured more detail upfront is better.
Here's
the deal...

I got a new 32-bit Vista laptop, copied all the Outlook data over and
reinstalled Outlook (2002). I used Windows Update when prompted, which
patched me up to SP3. I opened all my old PST files that I use to sort /
store emails etc. So far so good.

Then I tried to import my old primary mailbox into the new mailbox on the
new install. It imported most of the old emails, sent items etc but then
when
it got to Contacts, I got the Outlook security warning message: "A program
is
trying to access email addresses... " and the options to allow access,
Yes
or No. I clicked Yes, and the message pops up again. I click yes again.
Same thing. Short story, no matter what I do I can't clear this warning,
it
just keeps popping up. This includes terminating the application through
Task manager, and rebooting. When I restart Outlook, it checks the PST
files
that were not closed properly, then carries on trying to import the
contacts,
and the warning pops up again.

I'd be very grateful if someone can advise how to stop Outlook from
looping
like this, short of uninstalling and reinstalling and repatching (and I
don't
even know whether THAT would work!) Thanks for ploughing through to the
end,
and thanks in advance for your help!

I see my preemptive thanks were misdirected.

Russ, my deepest, abject, humblest apologies. I confess - I didn't read
every post in the discussion board about importing outlook data. I'm a
reasonably competent user, but I'm no expert programmer, so I read the help
file, searched the MS KB, and when I found no information there, I looked for
"Help from the Experts" as MS put it. I searched the relevant group, but
could find no reference to the problem I was experiencing. I didn't note any
advice that said "don't import" along the way. So I posted my specific
problem, hoping for a specific answer. Sorry it was so "lacking in detail"
that I shouldn't have "expected you to help me".

Your answer is extremely unhelpful, but it must have given you you a warm
glow of superiority. I can't think of any other reason you would have made
such a pointless post. Thanks for nothing, I'll sort it out myself without
any "Help from the Experts"...

AR

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

I don't understand why you would ever use import to transfer Outlook data
when we have posted so clearly and so frequently that importing is never the
correct way to transfer Outlook data. Did you think your results would be
different? If so, why? How do you expect us to help you? Your post is far to
deficient on the details we would need to do so. You mention PST files and
mailboxes in the same sentence. They do not belong in the same sentence.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Adam Radcliffe" Adam wrote in message
...
Hi, I wonder if someone could help me, I'm kind of at my wit's end with
this.
Apologies for post length, I figured more detail upfront is better.
Here's
the deal...

I got a new 32-bit Vista laptop, copied all the Outlook data over and
reinstalled Outlook (2002). I used Windows Update when prompted, which
patched me up to SP3. I opened all my old PST files that I use to sort /
store emails etc. So far so good.

Then I tried to import my old primary mailbox into the new mailbox on the
new install. It imported most of the old emails, sent items etc but then
when
it got to Contacts, I got the Outlook security warning message: "A program
is
trying to access email addresses... " and the options to allow access,
Yes
or No. I clicked Yes, and the message pops up again. I click yes again.
Same thing. Short story, no matter what I do I can't clear this warning,
it
just keeps popping up. This includes terminating the application through
Task manager, and rebooting. When I restart Outlook, it checks the PST
files
that were not closed properly, then carries on trying to import the
contacts,
and the warning pops up again.

I'd be very grateful if someone can advise how to stop Outlook from
looping
like this, short of uninstalling and reinstalling and repatching (and I
don't
even know whether THAT would work!) Thanks for ploughing through to the
end,
and thanks in advance for your help!

The other alternative of course would be to post accurate and relevant
details that would allow someone to help from the distance of a newsgroup.
Not sure why you were expecting help unless you were expecting us to be mind
readers. Post your problem more clearly. Include accurate steps to repro the
problem. Recognize that the Outlook version you are using is no longer
supported and does not work reliably on Vista.
No one here is a programmer. Nor would you have needed to read "every post"
to discover that importing is never the correct way to transfer Outlook
data. There are countless posts here that tell you how to migrate Outlook
data correctly. You only needed to read one.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Adam Radcliffe" wrote in message
...
I see my preemptive thanks were misdirected.

Russ, my deepest, abject, humblest apologies. I confess - I didn't read
every post in the discussion board about importing outlook data. I'm a
reasonably competent user, but I'm no expert programmer, so I read the
help
file, searched the MS KB, and when I found no information there, I looked
for
"Help from the Experts" as MS put it. I searched the relevant group, but
could find no reference to the problem I was experiencing. I didn't note
any
advice that said "don't import" along the way. So I posted my specific
problem, hoping for a specific answer. Sorry it was so "lacking in
detail"
that I shouldn't have "expected you to help me".

Your answer is extremely unhelpful, but it must have given you you a warm
glow of superiority. I can't think of any other reason you would have
made
such a pointless post. Thanks for nothing, I'll sort it out myself
without
any "Help from the Experts"...

AR

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

I don't understand why you would ever use import to transfer Outlook data
when we have posted so clearly and so frequently that importing is never
the
correct way to transfer Outlook data. Did you think your results would be
different? If so, why? How do you expect us to help you? Your post is far
to
deficient on the details we would need to do so. You mention PST files
and
mailboxes in the same sentence. They do not belong in the same sentence.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Adam Radcliffe" Adam wrote in
message
...
Hi, I wonder if someone could help me, I'm kind of at my wit's end with
this.
Apologies for post length, I figured more detail upfront is better.
Here's
the deal...

I got a new 32-bit Vista laptop, copied all the Outlook data over and
reinstalled Outlook (2002). I used Windows Update when prompted, which
patched me up to SP3. I opened all my old PST files that I use to sort
/
store emails etc. So far so good.

Then I tried to import my old primary mailbox into the new mailbox on
the
new install. It imported most of the old emails, sent items etc but
then
when
it got to Contacts, I got the Outlook security warning message: "A
program
is
trying to access email addresses... " and the options to allow access,
Yes
or No. I clicked Yes, and the message pops up again. I click yes
again.
Same thing. Short story, no matter what I do I can't clear this
warning,
it
just keeps popping up. This includes terminating the application
through
Task manager, and rebooting. When I restart Outlook, it checks the PST
files
that were not closed properly, then carries on trying to import the
contacts,
and the warning pops up again.

I'd be very grateful if someone can advise how to stop Outlook from
looping
like this, short of uninstalling and reinstalling and repatching (and I
don't
even know whether THAT would work!) Thanks for ploughing through to
the
end,
and thanks in advance for your help!

Please take a look at the following link for a possible solution:
http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/esecup.htm#autosec
The "object model guard" feature of the patch imposes two extreme
restrictions on automating Outlook from add-ins that use either the
Outlook object model or Simple MAPI:

a.. If an add-in tries to send an Outlook message, the user gets a
notification pop-up and must explicitly authorize or deny each
attempt to send. The user must wait 5 seconds before the
Yes button becomes available to click.

b.. If an add-in tries to access address information in an Outlook
item or the address book or to save an Outlook item as a file,
the user gets a notification pop-up and can deny access,
authorize a one-time access or extend access for a period of
several minutes. PDA sync utilities are an example of the kind
of application that will be affected by this restriction.
I used to suggest the "Express Click Yes" which can be found on the
page that the link above takes you to. I am a little rusty on this issue
but I believe the above link will offer you a solution.

Nikki

"Adam Radcliffe" wrote in message
...
I see my preemptive thanks were misdirected.

Russ, my deepest, abject, humblest apologies. I confess - I didn't read
every post in the discussion board about importing outlook data. I'm a
reasonably competent user, but I'm no expert programmer, so I read the
help
file, searched the MS KB, and when I found no information there, I looked
for
"Help from the Experts" as MS put it. I searched the relevant group, but
could find no reference to the problem I was experiencing. I didn't note
any
advice that said "don't import" along the way. So I posted my specific
problem, hoping for a specific answer. Sorry it was so "lacking in
detail"
that I shouldn't have "expected you to help me".

Your answer is extremely unhelpful, but it must have given you you a warm
glow of superiority. I can't think of any other reason you would have
made
such a pointless post. Thanks for nothing, I'll sort it out myself
without
any "Help from the Experts"...

AR

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

I don't understand why you would ever use import to transfer Outlook data
when we have posted so clearly and so frequently that importing is never
the
correct way to transfer Outlook data. Did you think your results would be
different? If so, why? How do you expect us to help you? Your post is far
to
deficient on the details we would need to do so. You mention PST files
and
mailboxes in the same sentence. They do not belong in the same sentence.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Adam Radcliffe" Adam wrote in
message
...
Hi, I wonder if someone could help me, I'm kind of at my wit's end with
this.
Apologies for post length, I figured more detail upfront is better.
Here's
the deal...

I got a new 32-bit Vista laptop, copied all the Outlook data over and
reinstalled Outlook (2002). I used Windows Update when prompted, which
patched me up to SP3. I opened all my old PST files that I use to sort
/
store emails etc. So far so good.

Then I tried to import my old primary mailbox into the new mailbox on
the
new install. It imported most of the old emails, sent items etc but
then
when
it got to Contacts, I got the Outlook security warning message: "A
program
is
trying to access email addresses... " and the options to allow access,
Yes
or No. I clicked Yes, and the message pops up again. I click yes
again.
Same thing. Short story, no matter what I do I can't clear this
warning,
it
just keeps popping up. This includes terminating the application
through
Task manager, and rebooting. When I restart Outlook, it checks the PST
files
that were not closed properly, then carries on trying to import the
contacts,
and the warning pops up again.

I'd be very grateful if someone can advise how to stop Outlook from
looping
like this, short of uninstalling and reinstalling and repatching (and I
don't
even know whether THAT would work!) Thanks for ploughing through to
the
end,
and thanks in advance for your help!

Outlook version aside (Vista & O'2002 and whether or not there are any
different operational issues), the security message you're getting generally
has an option to "allow" for "x" number of minutes which would alleviate
some if not all of the issue.

That aside, if you're importing from your original PST file, skip the
"import process" altogether and simply open the old PST file on Vista and
make it your "default" mailbox. No need to do anything else. There are times
when importing/exporting is the correct approach - this just isn't one of
those times since it is totally unnecessary.

Karl

__________________________________________________ _
Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group
ContactGenie - Importer 1.3 / DataPorter 2.0 / Exporter
"Power contact importers/exporters for MS Outlook '2000/2007"
http://www.contactgenie.com


"Adam Radcliffe" Adam wrote in message
...
Hi, I wonder if someone could help me, I'm kind of at my wit's end with
this.
Apologies for post length, I figured more detail upfront is better.
Here's
the deal...

I got a new 32-bit Vista laptop, copied all the Outlook data over and
reinstalled Outlook (2002). I used Windows Update when prompted, which
patched me up to SP3. I opened all my old PST files that I use to sort /
store emails etc. So far so good.

Then I tried to import my old primary mailbox into the new mailbox on the
new install. It imported most of the old emails, sent items etc but then
when
it got to Contacts, I got the Outlook security warning message: "A program
is
trying to access email addresses... " and the options to allow access,
Yes
or No. I clicked Yes, and the message pops up again. I click yes again.
Same thing. Short story, no matter what I do I can't clear this warning,
it
just keeps popping up. This includes terminating the application through
Task manager, and rebooting. When I restart Outlook, it checks the PST
files
that were not closed properly, then carries on trying to import the
contacts,
and the warning pops up again.

I'd be very grateful if someone can advise how to stop Outlook from
looping
like this, short of uninstalling and reinstalling and repatching (and I
don't
even know whether THAT would work!) Thanks for ploughing through to the
end,
and thanks in advance for your help!

*sigh*

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:
The other alternative of course would be to post accurate and relevant
details that would allow someone to help from the distance of a newsgroup.

Details provided are accurate. To imply otherwise is to imlpy that I am
lying. Are you implying that I am lying? Why would you make such an
accusation against someone who is merely asking for assistance? Are you
really THAT arrogant?
In what way are the details I provided irrelevant? Maybe you, in your
infinite clarity and wisdom, would like to advise what additional information
you need to provide some advice. (then look up "Sarcasm" on dictionary.com)

Not sure why you were expecting help unless you were expecting us to be mind
readers.

I wasn't expecting you to be mind readers. I wasn't expecting you to be
completely obnoxious, arrogant ******* either, though, so I suppose
anything's possible.

Post your problem more clearly. Include accurate steps to repro the problem.

What don't you understand? Actually, don't answer that.

Recognize that the Outlook version you are using is no longer supported and does not work reliably on Vista.

From what I can tell from the Microsoft site, Outlook is actually supported
as far as "Security related issues". From my (customer's) perspective,
that's exactly what this is - an issue created by a security patch, applied
automatically by Microsoft.
And sure, I could upgrade. Except I see no reason to from a functionality
perspective, and am prevented from doing so cost-effectively by the fact that
MSoft no longer offer an upgrade to Outlook only, just Office Standard (of
which I use nothing except Outlook).
And seeing as this problem does not appear to be related to the OS, why
highlight the fact that MS is incapable of writing backward-compatible
software? Or rather that their profit margins are based on a forced-upgrade
policy, from the code up?

No one here is a programmer. Nor would you have needed to read "every post"
to discover that importing is never the correct way to transfer Outlook
data. There are countless posts here that tell you how to migrate Outlook
data correctly. You only needed to read one.

Yes, but of course, as anyone with an ounce of sense would realise, I only
started reading these posts AFTER THE PROBLEM HAD OCCURRED. Why would I come
and start reading through discussion boards to look for issues that hadn't
even occurred yet? Why would I know ahead of the fact that a built-in
application function would cause the entire system to become unusable?
(Except of course that I *should* have known better... after all, I've used
MS apps before!)
My programmer reference was because most of the posts/KBarticles etc I did
read before posting my question related to the SP3 patch causing problems for
people writing programatic interfaces to Outlook, and corresponding developer
workarounds.

Kindly don't reply to my question any more, Russ, you clearly have nothing
constructive to say.

AR

--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Adam Radcliffe" wrote in message
...
I see my preemptive thanks were misdirected.

Russ, my deepest, abject, humblest apologies. I confess - I didn't read
every post in the discussion board about importing outlook data. I'm a
reasonably competent user, but I'm no expert programmer, so I read the
help
file, searched the MS KB, and when I found no information there, I looked
for
"Help from the Experts" as MS put it. I searched the relevant group, but
could find no reference to the problem I was experiencing. I didn't note
any
advice that said "don't import" along the way. So I posted my specific
problem, hoping for a specific answer. Sorry it was so "lacking in
detail"
that I shouldn't have "expected you to help me".

Your answer is extremely unhelpful, but it must have given you you a warm
glow of superiority. I can't think of any other reason you would have
made
such a pointless post. Thanks for nothing, I'll sort it out myself
without
any "Help from the Experts"...

AR

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

I don't understand why you would ever use import to transfer Outlook data
when we have posted so clearly and so frequently that importing is never
the
correct way to transfer Outlook data. Did you think your results would be
different? If so, why? How do you expect us to help you? Your post is far
to
deficient on the details we would need to do so. You mention PST files
and
mailboxes in the same sentence. They do not belong in the same sentence.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

Thanks, Nikki, for your blessedly polite and helpful response.

OK, I read through the slipstick article, and a bunch of the related ones.
I tried the ClickYes app, which installed and ran fine, but Outlook now
"Stops working" (in Vista terminology).

I've given up trying to repair the original problem, and decided to start
again with a clean install. However it is currently proving more difficult
than I would have expected to uninstall and reinstall Outlook... It
uninstalls fine, removes all the files, then reinstalls OK but it has clearly
retained the settings from the previous installation (I can see emails in the
inbox, and I'm prompted for account login info. Then the original Outlook
security warning message appears again ("A program is trying to access email
addresses... ")

I'm currently searching for advice on completely removing outlook 2002, so
I'll look in the KB and relevant forums. If you have any advice, I'd really
appreciate it, but no urgency.
Thanks again for your help.
AR

"Nikki Peterson [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:

Please take a look at the following link for a possible solution:
http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/esecup.htm#autosec
The "object model guard" feature of the patch imposes two extreme
restrictions on automating Outlook from add-ins that use either the
Outlook object model or Simple MAPI:

a.. If an add-in tries to send an Outlook message, the user gets a
notification pop-up and must explicitly authorize or deny each
attempt to send. The user must wait 5 seconds before the
Yes button becomes available to click.

b.. If an add-in tries to access address information in an Outlook
item or the address book or to save an Outlook item as a file,
the user gets a notification pop-up and can deny access,
authorize a one-time access or extend access for a period of
several minutes. PDA sync utilities are an example of the kind
of application that will be affected by this restriction.
I used to suggest the "Express Click Yes" which can be found on the
page that the link above takes you to. I am a little rusty on this issue
but I believe the above link will offer you a solution.

Nikki

Hi Karl, thanks for your advice too. Couple of specific responses to your
comments below...
Cheers
AR

"Karl Timmermans" wrote:

Outlook version aside (Vista & O'2002 and whether or not there are any
different operational issues), the security message you're getting generally
has an option to "allow" for "x" number of minutes which would alleviate
some if not all of the issue.
I have tried all of the options presented by the warning - Yes, No and Allow
for 1-10 mins. Whenever I click any available option on the warning box, a
new warning box appears instantly to replace it. I had thought maybe it was
just giving me a warning for every contact in my address book, and therefore
perhaps I just needed to permit for each contact (I don't have THAT many,
maybe 100-150) but having tried clicking about 500 times I gave up and
figured that wasn't the answer

That aside, if you're importing from your original PST file, skip the
"import process" altogether and simply open the old PST file on Vista and
make it your "default" mailbox. No need to do anything else. There are times
when importing/exporting is the correct approach - this just isn't one of
those times since it is totally unnecessary.

Right, that's great to know, thanks for that. If I can get Outlook to work
AT ALL in the future, I'll certainly do that. Wish I'd known before, but hey
- hindsight is always 20-20...

Thanks very much for helping...
AR

Karl

__________________________________________________ _
Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group
ContactGenie - Importer 1.3 / DataPorter 2.0 / Exporter
"Power contact importers/exporters for MS Outlook '2000/2007"
http://www.contactgenie.com

The precise steps that trigger the security prompt were needed. Also, what
you meant by "importing my old primary mailbox." "Mailbox" refers to
Exchange and implies you are running against Exchange server. Are you?
We have posted many reasons not to import Outlook data, but I've never seen
it trigger the security prompt before so this may be a new problem caused by
running an older version of Outlook on an OS on which it is not supported.
Normally you just open a PST file.
What happens if you create a new Outlook profile, repair this PST file, then
open it in the new profile?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Adam Radcliffe" wrote in message
...
*sigh*

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:
The other alternative of course would be to post accurate and relevant
details that would allow someone to help from the distance of a
newsgroup.

Details provided are accurate. To imply otherwise is to imlpy that I am
lying. Are you implying that I am lying? Why would you make such an
accusation against someone who is merely asking for assistance? Are you
really THAT arrogant?
In what way are the details I provided irrelevant? Maybe you, in your
infinite clarity and wisdom, would like to advise what additional
information
you need to provide some advice. (then look up "Sarcasm" on
dictionary.com)

Not sure why you were expecting help unless you were expecting us to be
mind
readers.

I wasn't expecting you to be mind readers. I wasn't expecting you to be
completely obnoxious, arrogant ******* either, though, so I suppose
anything's possible.

Post your problem more clearly. Include accurate steps to repro the
problem.

What don't you understand? Actually, don't answer that.

Recognize that the Outlook version you are using is no longer supported
and does not work reliably on Vista.

From what I can tell from the Microsoft site, Outlook is actually
supported
as far as "Security related issues". From my (customer's) perspective,
that's exactly what this is - an issue created by a security patch,
applied
automatically by Microsoft.
And sure, I could upgrade. Except I see no reason to from a functionality
perspective, and am prevented from doing so cost-effectively by the fact
that
MSoft no longer offer an upgrade to Outlook only, just Office Standard (of
which I use nothing except Outlook).
And seeing as this problem does not appear to be related to the OS, why
highlight the fact that MS is incapable of writing backward-compatible
software? Or rather that their profit margins are based on a
forced-upgrade
policy, from the code up?

No one here is a programmer. Nor would you have needed to read "every
post"
to discover that importing is never the correct way to transfer Outlook
data. There are countless posts here that tell you how to migrate Outlook
data correctly. You only needed to read one.

Yes, but of course, as anyone with an ounce of sense would realise, I only
started reading these posts AFTER THE PROBLEM HAD OCCURRED. Why would I
come
and start reading through discussion boards to look for issues that hadn't
even occurred yet? Why would I know ahead of the fact that a built-in
application function would cause the entire system to become unusable?
(Except of course that I *should* have known better... after all, I've
used
MS apps before!)
My programmer reference was because most of the posts/KBarticles etc I did
read before posting my question related to the SP3 patch causing problems
for
people writing programatic interfaces to Outlook, and corresponding
developer
workarounds.

Kindly don't reply to my question any more, Russ, you clearly have nothing
constructive to say.

AR

--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Adam Radcliffe" wrote in
message
...
I see my preemptive thanks were misdirected.

Russ, my deepest, abject, humblest apologies. I confess - I didn't
read
every post in the discussion board about importing outlook data. I'm a
reasonably competent user, but I'm no expert programmer, so I read the
help
file, searched the MS KB, and when I found no information there, I
looked
for
"Help from the Experts" as MS put it. I searched the relevant group,
but
could find no reference to the problem I was experiencing. I didn't
note
any
advice that said "don't import" along the way. So I posted my specific
problem, hoping for a specific answer. Sorry it was so "lacking in
detail"
that I shouldn't have "expected you to help me".

Your answer is extremely unhelpful, but it must have given you you a
warm
glow of superiority. I can't think of any other reason you would have
made
such a pointless post. Thanks for nothing, I'll sort it out myself
without
any "Help from the Experts"...

AR

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

I don't understand why you would ever use import to transfer Outlook
data
when we have posted so clearly and so frequently that importing is
never
the
correct way to transfer Outlook data. Did you think your results would
be
different? If so, why? How do you expect us to help you? Your post is
far
to
deficient on the details we would need to do so. You mention PST files
and
mailboxes in the same sentence. They do not belong in the same
sentence.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]