unexpected file size

Hi,

When I tried to use an existing visio 2002 or 2003 file
as an template, for example, deleting some pages,
modifying pages, I found the file size kept growing. Even
I delete all pages from a file and save as a new file,
the size of the file which supposed to be a very small
file won't change a lot. It will remain, let's say 19M.

If I just copy and paste all pages to a new file, the
size will be much smaller.

I know this is not normal, I tried to search in the
knowledge base, no solution.

Anybody can help?

Thanks

Paul

You probably have a lot of master shapes in the document. When you drag a
master shape into a drawing from a stencil, a copy of that shape is stored
in your document. Even deleting the shape from every page does not get rid
of the master shape stored in your document. If you go to File Shapes
Open Document Stencil, you can see the masters in the document and delete
those you don't want.

--
Mark Nelson
Microsoft Corporation

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"Paul" wrote in message
...
Hi,

When I tried to use an existing visio 2002 or 2003 file
as an template, for example, deleting some pages,
modifying pages, I found the file size kept growing. Even
I delete all pages from a file and save as a new file,
the size of the file which supposed to be a very small
file won't change a lot. It will remain, let's say 19M.

If I just copy and paste all pages to a new file, the
size will be much smaller.

I know this is not normal, I tried to search in the
knowledge base, no solution.

Anybody can help?

Thanks

Paul

Hi, Mark,

Thanks for your help. But after I deleted those shapes in
the stencil, file size increased from 19M to 31M. Even
worse. :-(

Paul
-----Original Message-----
You probably have a lot of master shapes in the
document. When you drag a
master shape into a drawing from a stencil, a copy of
that shape is stored
in your document. Even deleting the shape from every
page does not get rid
of the master shape stored in your document. If you go
to File Shapes
Open Document Stencil, you can see the masters in the
document and delete
those you don't want.

--
Mark Nelson
Microsoft Corporation

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.

"Paul" wrote in message
...
Hi,

When I tried to use an existing visio 2002 or 2003 file
as an template, for example, deleting some pages,
modifying pages, I found the file size kept growing.
Even
I delete all pages from a file and save as a new file,
the size of the file which supposed to be a very small
file won't change a lot. It will remain, let's say 19M.

If I just copy and paste all pages to a new file, the
size will be much smaller.

I know this is not normal, I tried to search in the
knowledge base, no solution.

Anybody can help?

Thanks

Paul


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I assume that you did not delete any master shapes that Visio warned were
not in use. My suggestion was meant to get rid of unused masters only.

If you are using Visio 2002 SP2, there is a bug that can significantly bloat
the size of documents. This is tied to the preview thumbnail stored in the
file. Disabling the preview should prevent this problem.

--
Mark Nelson
Microsoft Corporation

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

wrote in message
...
Hi, Mark,

Thanks for your help. But after I deleted those shapes in
the stencil, file size increased from 19M to 31M. Even
worse. :-(

Paul
-----Original Message-----
You probably have a lot of master shapes in the
document. When you drag a
master shape into a drawing from a stencil, a copy of
that shape is stored
in your document. Even deleting the shape from every
page does not get rid
of the master shape stored in your document. If you go
to File Shapes
Open Document Stencil, you can see the masters in the
document and delete
those you don't want.

--
Mark Nelson
Microsoft Corporation

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.

"Paul" wrote in message
...
Hi,

When I tried to use an existing visio 2002 or 2003 file
as an template, for example, deleting some pages,
modifying pages, I found the file size kept growing.
Even
I delete all pages from a file and save as a new file,
the size of the file which supposed to be a very small
file won't change a lot. It will remain, let's say 19M.

If I just copy and paste all pages to a new file, the
size will be much smaller.

I know this is not normal, I tried to search in the
knowledge base, no solution.

Anybody can help?

Thanks

Paul


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