Problemer med ramme ved save/ Problems, a frame shows up on saved

Hi
Im Creating some symbols and need them to be wery accurate. The problem is
that when i save my files, a border shows up and pushes the symbol up. I know
that my drawing is precisely 25mm x 25mm, but when i choose pagesetup -
pagesize (tab) - Size to fit drawing contents it says that my drawing is
26,6439mm x 27,737mm.

How can i change that so the symbol stays exactly 25mmx25mm?

Jimmy

On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 02:39:00 -0700, Jimmy Jensen Jimmy
wrote:

Hi
Im Creating some symbols and need them to be wery accurate. The problem is
that when i save my files, a border shows up and pushes the symbol up. I know
that my drawing is precisely 25mm x 25mm, but when i choose pagesetup -
pagesize (tab) - Size to fit drawing contents it says that my drawing is
26,6439mm x 27,737mm.

How can i change that so the symbol stays exactly 25mmx25mm?

Why are you setting "Size to fit drawing contents"? That will always
change your drawing size on paper.

I think what you mean by the border showing up is the paper margins.
Does this border come and go when you do menu View - Page Breaks?



--
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.
Electrical for Visio http://www.electrical.sandrila.co.uk/

"Paul Herber" skrev:

On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 02:39:00 -0700, Jimmy Jensen Jimmy
wrote:

Hi
Im Creating some symbols and need them to be wery accurate. The problem is
that when i save my files, a border shows up and pushes the symbol up. I know
that my drawing is precisely 25mm x 25mm, but when i choose pagesetup -
pagesize (tab) - Size to fit drawing contents it says that my drawing is
26,6439mm x 27,737mm.

How can i change that so the symbol stays exactly 25mmx25mm?

Why are you setting "Size to fit drawing contents"? That will always
change your drawing size on paper.

I think what you mean by the border showing up is the paper margins.
Does this border come and go when you do menu View - Page Breaks?



--
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.
Electrical for Visio http://www.electrical.sandrila.co.uk/


No it dosent...

What i ment was that when i have created the symbols in visio precisely as i
want them and save them as .emf then i can see, by using an other program to
view, that a border has been added to the symbol.

On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 02:19:01 -0700, Jimmy Jensen
wrote:



"Paul Herber" skrev:

On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 02:39:00 -0700, Jimmy Jensen Jimmy
wrote:

Hi
Im Creating some symbols and need them to be wery accurate. The problem is
that when i save my files, a border shows up and pushes the symbol up. I know
that my drawing is precisely 25mm x 25mm, but when i choose pagesetup -
pagesize (tab) - Size to fit drawing contents it says that my drawing is
26,6439mm x 27,737mm.

How can i change that so the symbol stays exactly 25mmx25mm?

Why are you setting "Size to fit drawing contents"? That will always
change your drawing size on paper.

I think what you mean by the border showing up is the paper margins.
Does this border come and go when you do menu View - Page Breaks?


No it dosent...

What i ment was that when i have created the symbols in visio precisely as i
want them and save them as .emf then i can see, by using an other program to
view, that a border has been added to the symbol.

Ah, right.
They are only that size within Visio, once you export to a graphics
format then that all changes. EMF format is a non-sized vector format
anyway.
So, in Visio, select the shape, menu File Save As and select GIF, in
the dialog box enter the size information.
It still may not work as the image will be based upon pixels rather
than mm.
What are you trying to do?


--
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.
DFD/SSADM for Visio http://www.visio-dfd.sandrila.co.uk/

"Paul Herber" skrev:

On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 02:19:01 -0700, Jimmy Jensen
wrote:



"Paul Herber" skrev:

On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 02:39:00 -0700, Jimmy Jensen Jimmy
wrote:

Hi
Im Creating some symbols and need them to be wery accurate. The problem is
that when i save my files, a border shows up and pushes the symbol up. I know
that my drawing is precisely 25mm x 25mm, but when i choose pagesetup -
pagesize (tab) - Size to fit drawing contents it says that my drawing is
26,6439mm x 27,737mm.

How can i change that so the symbol stays exactly 25mmx25mm?

Why are you setting "Size to fit drawing contents"? That will always
change your drawing size on paper.

I think what you mean by the border showing up is the paper margins.
Does this border come and go when you do menu View - Page Breaks?


No it dosent...

What i ment was that when i have created the symbols in visio precisely as i
want them and save them as .emf then i can see, by using an other program to
view, that a border has been added to the symbol.

Ah, right.
They are only that size within Visio, once you export to a graphics
format then that all changes. EMF format is a non-sized vector format
anyway.
So, in Visio, select the shape, menu File Save As and select GIF, in
the dialog box enter the size information.
It still may not work as the image will be based upon pixels rather
than mm.
What are you trying to do?


--
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.
DFD/SSADM for Visio http://www.visio-dfd.sandrila.co.uk/


I am creating symbols for a application. These symbols has to be in vector
based graphics and they need to be accurate because the are being placed on a
graph. So as you see i really need .emf files. So if i am basing my symbols
on pixels it should make a diffenrence?

On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 03:59:01 -0700, Jimmy Jensen
wrote:

"Paul Herber" skrev:

On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 02:19:01 -0700, Jimmy Jensen
wrote:



"Paul Herber" skrev:

On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 02:39:00 -0700, Jimmy Jensen Jimmy
wrote:

Hi
Im Creating some symbols and need them to be wery accurate. The problem is
that when i save my files, a border shows up and pushes the symbol up. I know
that my drawing is precisely 25mm x 25mm, but when i choose pagesetup -
pagesize (tab) - Size to fit drawing contents it says that my drawing is
26,6439mm x 27,737mm.

How can i change that so the symbol stays exactly 25mmx25mm?

Why are you setting "Size to fit drawing contents"? That will always
change your drawing size on paper.

I think what you mean by the border showing up is the paper margins.
Does this border come and go when you do menu View - Page Breaks?


No it dosent...

What i ment was that when i have created the symbols in visio precisely as i
want them and save them as .emf then i can see, by using an other program to
view, that a border has been added to the symbol.

Ah, right.
They are only that size within Visio, once you export to a graphics
format then that all changes. EMF format is a non-sized vector format
anyway.
So, in Visio, select the shape, menu File Save As and select GIF, in
the dialog box enter the size information.
It still may not work as the image will be based upon pixels rather
than mm.
What are you trying to do?


I am creating symbols for a application. These symbols has to be in vector
based graphics and they need to be accurate because the are being placed on a
graph. So as you see i really need .emf files. So if i am basing my symbols
on pixels it should make a diffenrence?

Any image is just a definition of pixels or a vector in the x and y
directions. How those pixels get converted to a physical dimension is
down to the application.
Use a graphics editor like PaintShop Pro or even Paint to create a
simple 100x100 pixel box and save it in EMF format, see how that
appears in your application. That will tell you the scaling you
require.


--
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.
http://www.electronics-packages.sandrila.co.uk/

In line with Pauls observation that if your working with pixels and mm (or
inches under the covers), screen size is usually 72pixels/inch with the new
model going to 96pixels/inch. So you've become platform/driver dependent
when working with pixels and printer densities get even more interesting.
al
"Paul Herber" wrote in message
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On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 03:59:01 -0700, Jimmy Jensen
wrote:

"Paul Herber" skrev:

On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 02:19:01 -0700, Jimmy Jensen
wrote:



"Paul Herber" skrev:

On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 02:39:00 -0700, Jimmy Jensen Jimmy
wrote:

Hi
Im Creating some symbols and need them to be wery accurate. The
problem is
that when i save my files, a border shows up and pushes the symbol
up. I know
that my drawing is precisely 25mm x 25mm, but when i choose
pagesetup -
pagesize (tab) - Size to fit drawing contents it says that my
drawing is
26,6439mm x 27,737mm.

How can i change that so the symbol stays exactly 25mmx25mm?

Why are you setting "Size to fit drawing contents"? That will always
change your drawing size on paper.

I think what you mean by the border showing up is the paper margins.
Does this border come and go when you do menu View - Page Breaks?


No it dosent...

What i ment was that when i have created the symbols in visio precisely
as i
want them and save them as .emf then i can see, by using an other
program to
view, that a border has been added to the symbol.

Ah, right.
They are only that size within Visio, once you export to a graphics
format then that all changes. EMF format is a non-sized vector format
anyway.
So, in Visio, select the shape, menu File Save As and select GIF, in
the dialog box enter the size information.
It still may not work as the image will be based upon pixels rather
than mm.
What are you trying to do?


I am creating symbols for a application. These symbols has to be in vector
based graphics and they need to be accurate because the are being placed
on a
graph. So as you see i really need .emf files. So if i am basing my
symbols
on pixels it should make a diffenrence?

Any image is just a definition of pixels or a vector in the x and y
directions. How those pixels get converted to a physical dimension is
down to the application.
Use a graphics editor like PaintShop Pro or even Paint to create a
simple 100x100 pixel box and save it in EMF format, see how that
appears in your application. That will tell you the scaling you
require.


--
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.
http://www.electronics-packages.sandrila.co.uk/

"AlEdlund" skrev:

In line with Pauls observation that if your working with pixels and mm (or
inches under the covers), screen size is usually 72pixels/inch with the new
model going to 96pixels/inch. So you've become platform/driver dependent
when working with pixels and printer densities get even more interesting.
al
"Paul Herber" wrote in message
ell.net...
On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 03:59:01 -0700, Jimmy Jensen
wrote:

"Paul Herber" skrev:

On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 02:19:01 -0700, Jimmy Jensen
wrote:



"Paul Herber" skrev:

On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 02:39:00 -0700, Jimmy Jensen Jimmy
wrote:

Hi
Im Creating some symbols and need them to be wery accurate. The
problem is
that when i save my files, a border shows up and pushes the symbol
up. I know
that my drawing is precisely 25mm x 25mm, but when i choose
pagesetup -
pagesize (tab) - Size to fit drawing contents it says that my
drawing is
26,6439mm x 27,737mm.

How can i change that so the symbol stays exactly 25mmx25mm?

Why are you setting "Size to fit drawing contents"? That will always
change your drawing size on paper.

I think what you mean by the border showing up is the paper margins.
Does this border come and go when you do menu View - Page Breaks?


No it dosent...

What i ment was that when i have created the symbols in visio precisely
as i
want them and save them as .emf then i can see, by using an other
program to
view, that a border has been added to the symbol.

Ah, right.
They are only that size within Visio, once you export to a graphics
format then that all changes. EMF format is a non-sized vector format
anyway.
So, in Visio, select the shape, menu File Save As and select GIF, in
the dialog box enter the size information.
It still may not work as the image will be based upon pixels rather
than mm.
What are you trying to do?


I am creating symbols for a application. These symbols has to be in vector
based graphics and they need to be accurate because the are being placed
on a
graph. So as you see i really need .emf files. So if i am basing my
symbols
on pixels it should make a diffenrence?

Any image is just a definition of pixels or a vector in the x and y
directions. How those pixels get converted to a physical dimension is
down to the application.
Use a graphics editor like PaintShop Pro or even Paint to create a
simple 100x100 pixel box and save it in EMF format, see how that
appears in your application. That will tell you the scaling you
require.


--
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.
http://www.electronics-packages.sandrila.co.uk/


Hey Guys
I found a solution. It seem to be that when you draw a symbol and it gets to
close to the border the application adds a some more. So by scaling the
background to 30mmx30mm and leave the symbols to the original size, the
dimensions now are correct. So thank you guys for your help

Jimmy