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Old June 30th, 2009, 04:11 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Twayne[_2_]
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Posts: 108
Default Reply e-mail address?

Taking a different view on this, here is some food for thought:
It sounds like you have a catch-all e-mail account/s. That's usually a
server setting that can be turned off and on. It's bad to use a
catch-all because then every spam or botched or mistaken email will go
into that account. So if that's the case IMO you should stop using
catch-alls. Anyone who botches your address misakenly might have the
entry to to their address book and they'd never know it wasn't a real
address of yours.

If you aren't using catch-alls then perhaps there are unexpected "Reply
To" settings in you mail client's setup. The Reply To: should be the
same address the mail is sent from unless there is a strong reason to
make it otherwise.

If your e-mail addresses are actually like , you have highly
guessable usernames that are going to draw a lot of dictionary spam.
"Pat" is just too easy to guess; and most spammers will also add Patty,
Patrick, and other spellings too, hoping to hit a real e-mail box.
It sounds like addresses can be created/deleted at will, so better
usernames are, for example,
. Or and so
on. Or, most ISPs these days are allowing names like

also. But, Pat999, pat100, etc. are bad, because spammers dictionary
those, too. They just start with
and work their way up
to
. So the digits need to be not at the beginning or end
of the username.

You might also check on your ISP and see that spam filtering is turned
on, if they offer it. Most do these days. But spam still gets though;
they have to be careful not to kill goodmail.

I don't know how much the preceding has to do with your issues, but it's
possible it's a lot to do with it.

HTH,

Twayne`







"L.S." wrote in message

We connect through Charter but her web hoster is Omnis.
I/she use to have one e-mail address
which was/is the
same as a
. That caught anything and everything so I
got rid of that and created 3 address' so she could tell where
e-mails where coming from. pat@xxx was the default for past couple of
years. We're getting friends, co-workers etc. using Pat@xxx and
going to drop the pat@xxx as it's getting more and more spam.


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
May I assume you did not create all three (3) addresses yourself and
that there's a separate web-mail page for each account?

Are they all
accounts and is your ISP a Yahoo Partner
(e.g., Verizon; ATT/SWBell)?


L.S. wrote:
All 3 of the @comcrap.net are the same.
I deleted the mom@xxxx, reset the default to Pat@xxxx, reinstalled
mom@xxx
and now the Pat@xxx is working ok. Go figure.

L.

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
Pat's is the only one that doesn't do that. All replies have
mom@xxxx no
matter what came in....

Is the @xxxx part of all three (3) addresses the same (e.g.,
, , [the last two of
which may point to the same account] ?

Does the behavior persist with all three (3) addresses running in
a new identity on the same computer?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


L.S. wrote:
The default Mail Client is OE on all systems.
Just got back from home and when I click "reply" it replies with
the e-mail
that was sent to.
On this system it does the same.
I have lewis@xxxx, Lewis@xxxx, dad@xxxx with Lewis@xxxx being
default. If
an
e-mail comes in to dad@xxx and I hit reply, the "from:" box has
dad@xxxx.
If
it came to lewis@xxxx that's what's in the From: box when I hit
reply. Pat's is the only one that doesn't do that. All replies
have mom@xxxx no
matter what came in....

Will run a couple of text and report back.
I'm going to delete the mom@xxxx and change the default a couple
of times
and see what happens.

It sounds like the all 3 accounts (addresses) are aliases for
the same mailbox. Assuming I'm correct, WYSIWYG.

I don't know what's the default Mail Client on your "other
systems" but
I'd very much doubt it's OE if she's accessing all three
accounts in the
client and is not seeing the same behavior.

In short: OE places the default address (i.e., Pat@xxxx) in the
From line
when Replying to or Forwarding a message sent to either of the
other addresses.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

L.S. wrote:
This is only happening on my wifes system.
Outlook express, winxp.

She has 3 e-mail address'. mom@xxxx, pat@xxxx, Pat@xxxx
Pat@xxxx is set as default.

When she replies to an e-mail, in the "From:" box it's always
mom@xxxx.
I've had her check in property/details that the original e-mail
is coming
in
to Pat@xxx or pat@xxxx.

She is manually changing the From: box to Pat@xxxx but this is
a pain to
remember.

On our other systems, the from: is whichever the e-mail is sent
to. suggestions please,




  #12  
Old June 30th, 2009, 07:07 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
L.S.[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 68
Default Reply e-mail address?


I'm constantly amassed at how these "things" can mess up. Something as
simple as setting up an e-mail account can turn into a nightmare.....
At one point I think I've got it down and then it throws a curve at me.

Thanks for your help and suggestions,

L.

I'm beginning to love the reset button. Even though I call it something
else!!!


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
Sounds like either her (new) identity was horked from the git-go or there
was some sort of fumble when you "added her accounts to OE."

Anyway, all is well now.


L.S. wrote:
I created the 3 address through Omnis. Few years back they suggested not
using a default/catch all address to better control spam and security. We
don't use charter for e-mail just as a connection point.
All 3 can be accessed through webmail.

This may have been a glitch. Her system started going down last week(HD
started clacking) so I replaced with another system. I transferred
several
files including e-mails, address book, etc., etc. and added her accounts
to
OE. That's when it started.
When I deleted the accounts and added one at a time, starting with
Pat@xxxx
it's working fine now.
Like I said, go figure....



"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
So they're all addresses, addresses,
or...?

How and where did you create the 3 addresses?

Can all 3 accounts be accessed via a web-mail page somewhere?


L.S. wrote:
We connect through Charter but her web hoster is Omnis.
I/she use to have one e-mail address
which was/is the same
as a
. That caught anything and everything so I got rid of
that
and created 3 address' so she could tell where e-mails where coming
from.
pat@xxx was the default for past couple of years. We're getting
friends,
co-workers etc. using Pat@xxx and going to drop the pat@xxx as it's
getting
more and more spam.


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
May I assume you did not create all three (3) addresses yourself and
that
there's a separate web-mail page for each account?

Are they all
accounts and is your ISP a Yahoo Partner
(e.g., Verizon; ATT/SWBell)?


L.S. wrote:
All 3 of the @comcrap.net are the same.
I deleted the mom@xxxx, reset the default to Pat@xxxx, reinstalled
mom@xxx
and now the Pat@xxx is working ok. Go figure.

L.

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
Pat's is the only one that doesn't do that. All replies have
mom@xxxx
no
matter what came in....

Is the @xxxx part of all three (3) addresses the same (e.g.,
, , [the last two of
which
may point to the same account] ?

Does the behavior persist with all three (3) addresses running in a
new
identity on the same computer?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


L.S. wrote:
The default Mail Client is OE on all systems.
Just got back from home and when I click "reply" it replies with
the
e-mail
that was sent to.
On this system it does the same.
I have lewis@xxxx, Lewis@xxxx, dad@xxxx with Lewis@xxxx being
default.
If
an
e-mail comes in to dad@xxx and I hit reply, the "from:" box has
dad@xxxx.
If
it came to lewis@xxxx that's what's in the From: box when I hit
reply.
Pat's is the only one that doesn't do that. All replies have
mom@xxxx
no
matter what came in....

Will run a couple of text and report back.
I'm going to delete the mom@xxxx and change the default a couple of
times
and see what happens.

It sounds like the all 3 accounts (addresses) are aliases for the
same
mailbox. Assuming I'm correct, WYSIWYG.

I don't know what's the default Mail Client on your "other
systems"
but
I'd very much doubt it's OE if she's accessing all three accounts
in
the
client and is not seeing the same behavior.

In short: OE places the default address (i.e., Pat@xxxx) in the
From
line
when Replying to or Forwarding a message sent to either of the
other
addresses.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

L.S. wrote:
This is only happening on my wifes system.
Outlook express, winxp.

She has 3 e-mail address'. mom@xxxx, pat@xxxx, Pat@xxxx
Pat@xxxx is set as default.

When she replies to an e-mail, in the "From:" box it's always
mom@xxxx.
I've had her check in property/details that the original e-mail
is
coming
in
to Pat@xxx or pat@xxxx.

She is manually changing the From: box to Pat@xxxx but this is a
pain
to
remember.

On our other systems, the from: is whichever the e-mail is sent
to.

suggestions please,




  #13  
Old June 30th, 2009, 07:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
L.S.[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 68
Default Reply e-mail address?

The reason I set up a couple of different accounts is that we stopped using
a "catch all" account.
Plus when one account gets to loaded with spam, etc., we create and start
using a different one and delete the old one.

FYI- My wife's and my accounts are more detailed than just pat@xxx. I was
using that as an example but do like your suggestions. I could have said
pat345tr@xxxx but then I would have to change it after this session is over.
Dam-

thanks,


"Twayne" wrote in message
...
Taking a different view on this, here is some food for thought:
It sounds like you have a catch-all e-mail account/s. That's usually a
server setting that can be turned off and on. It's bad to use a catch-all
because then every spam or botched or mistaken email will go into that
account. So if that's the case IMO you should stop using catch-alls.
Anyone who botches your address misakenly might have the entry to to their
address book and they'd never know it wasn't a real address of yours.

If you aren't using catch-alls then perhaps there are unexpected "Reply
To" settings in you mail client's setup. The Reply To: should be the same
address the mail is sent from unless there is a strong reason to make it
otherwise.

If your e-mail addresses are actually like , you have highly
guessable usernames that are going to draw a lot of dictionary spam. "Pat"
is just too easy to guess; and most spammers will also add Patty, Patrick,
and other spellings too, hoping to hit a real e-mail box.
It sounds like addresses can be created/deleted at will, so better
usernames are, for example,
. Or and so on.
Or, most ISPs these days are allowing names like
also.
But, Pat999, pat100, etc. are bad, because spammers dictionary those, too.
They just start with
and work their way up to
. So the digits need to be not at the beginning or end of
the username.

You might also check on your ISP and see that spam filtering is turned on,
if they offer it. Most do these days. But spam still gets though; they
have to be careful not to kill goodmail.

I don't know how much the preceding has to do with your issues, but it's
possible it's a lot to do with it.

HTH,

Twayne`







"L.S." wrote in message

We connect through Charter but her web hoster is Omnis.
I/she use to have one e-mail address
which was/is the
same as a
. That caught anything and everything so I
got rid of that and created 3 address' so she could tell where
e-mails where coming from. pat@xxx was the default for past couple of
years. We're getting friends, co-workers etc. using Pat@xxx and
going to drop the pat@xxx as it's getting more and more spam.


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
May I assume you did not create all three (3) addresses yourself and
that there's a separate web-mail page for each account?

Are they all
accounts and is your ISP a Yahoo Partner
(e.g., Verizon; ATT/SWBell)?


L.S. wrote:
All 3 of the @comcrap.net are the same.
I deleted the mom@xxxx, reset the default to Pat@xxxx, reinstalled
mom@xxx
and now the Pat@xxx is working ok. Go figure.

L.

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
Pat's is the only one that doesn't do that. All replies have
mom@xxxx no
matter what came in....

Is the @xxxx part of all three (3) addresses the same (e.g.,
, , [the last two of
which may point to the same account] ?

Does the behavior persist with all three (3) addresses running in
a new identity on the same computer?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


L.S. wrote:
The default Mail Client is OE on all systems.
Just got back from home and when I click "reply" it replies with
the e-mail
that was sent to.
On this system it does the same.
I have lewis@xxxx, Lewis@xxxx, dad@xxxx with Lewis@xxxx being
default. If
an
e-mail comes in to dad@xxx and I hit reply, the "from:" box has
dad@xxxx.
If
it came to lewis@xxxx that's what's in the From: box when I hit
reply. Pat's is the only one that doesn't do that. All replies
have mom@xxxx no
matter what came in....

Will run a couple of text and report back.
I'm going to delete the mom@xxxx and change the default a couple
of times
and see what happens.

It sounds like the all 3 accounts (addresses) are aliases for
the same mailbox. Assuming I'm correct, WYSIWYG.

I don't know what's the default Mail Client on your "other
systems" but
I'd very much doubt it's OE if she's accessing all three
accounts in the
client and is not seeing the same behavior.

In short: OE places the default address (i.e., Pat@xxxx) in the
From line
when Replying to or Forwarding a message sent to either of the
other addresses.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

L.S. wrote:
This is only happening on my wifes system.
Outlook express, winxp.

She has 3 e-mail address'. mom@xxxx, pat@xxxx, Pat@xxxx
Pat@xxxx is set as default.

When she replies to an e-mail, in the "From:" box it's always
mom@xxxx.
I've had her check in property/details that the original e-mail
is coming
in
to Pat@xxx or pat@xxxx.

She is manually changing the From: box to Pat@xxxx but this is
a pain to
remember.

On our other systems, the from: is whichever the e-mail is sent
to. suggestions please,






 




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