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Old January 11th, 2008, 02:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.visio.general
jlschuck
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Default Fill format doesn't work on shapes created by user

I made a shape using the arcs and lines. The shape is closed. I grouped the
elements and then tried to format the fill. The dialog box for the format
fill function indicates that the fill of the shape is changed to the new
color, however when I look at the shape on the drawing it is still white.

Does anyone know what is wrong?
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Old January 11th, 2008, 03:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.visio.general
Philippe C.
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Default Fill format doesn't work on shapes created by user

This looked an easy one I could resolve. Nevertheless I fell in the trap and
experienced the same problem.

The first thing I found in the help system that we can still ad a shadow if
the shape is not closed. The shadow worked.
Then I found in the Help system :
"To close the shape, drag the endpoint of the last segment you create over
the vertex at the beginning of the first segment.
The shape becomes opaque, indicating it’s a closed shape."

Maybe you had trouble with the snap and glue, so that it did not become
closed.
Grouping has nothing to do with it.

Try drawing a rectangle with lines and experience the opaqueness.


"jlschuck" wrote:

I made a shape using the arcs and lines. The shape is closed. I grouped the
elements and then tried to format the fill. The dialog box for the format
fill function indicates that the fill of the shape is changed to the new
color, however when I look at the shape on the drawing it is still white.

Does anyone know what is wrong?

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Old January 11th, 2008, 04:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.visio.general
Joe Mako[_3_]
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Default Fill format doesn't work on shapes created by user

My initial thought is to use "Shape-Operations-Join" instead of grouping
to turn lines into a fillable shape.

Best Regards,
Joe Mako

"jlschuck" wrote in message
...
I made a shape using the arcs and lines. The shape is closed. I grouped the
elements and then tried to format the fill. The dialog box for the format
fill function indicates that the fill of the shape is changed to the new
color, however when I look at the shape on the drawing it is still white.

Does anyone know what is wrong?



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Old January 11th, 2008, 05:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.visio.general
John Goldsmith
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Default Fill format doesn't work on shapes created by user

Fill is based on individual Geometry sections within the ShapeSheet. Simply
drawing a selection of 1D shapes and then grouping won't necessarily create
a single path and so there won't be anything to fill. As Joe suggests you
need to 'Join' your lines to create one or more Geometry sections that can
then accept a fill.

For a bit of background reading take a look at this link:

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...ffice.10).aspx

Best regards

John


John Goldsmith
www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk
www.visualSignals.co.uk

"jlschuck" wrote in message
...
I made a shape using the arcs and lines. The shape is closed. I grouped the
elements and then tried to format the fill. The dialog box for the format
fill function indicates that the fill of the shape is changed to the new
color, however when I look at the shape on the drawing it is still white.

Does anyone know what is wrong?



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Old January 11th, 2008, 07:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.visio.general
Philippe C.
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Default Fill format doesn't work on shapes created by user

I did my little experiments in Visio 2003. In 2007 it does not work any
more. I give up.

"Philippe C." wrote:

This looked an easy one I could resolve. Nevertheless I fell in the trap and
experienced the same problem.

The first thing I found in the help system that we can still ad a shadow if
the shape is not closed. The shadow worked.
Then I found in the Help system :
"To close the shape, drag the endpoint of the last segment you create over
the vertex at the beginning of the first segment.
The shape becomes opaque, indicating it’s a closed shape."

Maybe you had trouble with the snap and glue, so that it did not become
closed.
Grouping has nothing to do with it.

Try drawing a rectangle with lines and experience the opaqueness.


"jlschuck" wrote:

I made a shape using the arcs and lines. The shape is closed. I grouped the
elements and then tried to format the fill. The dialog box for the format
fill function indicates that the fill of the shape is changed to the new
color, however when I look at the shape on the drawing it is still white.

Does anyone know what is wrong?

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Old January 12th, 2008, 05:34 AM posted to microsoft.public.visio.general
John Marshall, MVP
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Default Fill format doesn't work on shapes created by user

Two other points:

1) Open the shapesheet and check each geometry section to see what the
NoFill value is.
2) Open the shapesheet and make sure the last entry in each Geometry section
refers to the first entry. This will guarantee a closed loop.

John... Visio MVP

Need stencils or ideas? http://visio.mvps.org/3rdparty.htm
Need VBA examples? http://visio.mvps.org/VBA.htm
Visio Wishlist http://visio.mvps.org/wish_list.htm
"John Goldsmith" wrote in message
...
Fill is based on individual Geometry sections within the ShapeSheet.
Simply drawing a selection of 1D shapes and then grouping won't
necessarily create a single path and so there won't be anything to fill.
As Joe suggests you need to 'Join' your lines to create one or more
Geometry sections that can then accept a fill.

For a bit of background reading take a look at this link:

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...ffice.10).aspx

Best regards

John


John Goldsmith
www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk
www.visualSignals.co.uk

"jlschuck" wrote in message
...
I made a shape using the arcs and lines. The shape is closed. I grouped
the
elements and then tried to format the fill. The dialog box for the format
fill function indicates that the fill of the shape is changed to the new
color, however when I look at the shape on the drawing it is still white.

Does anyone know what is wrong?





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Old January 13th, 2008, 01:42 AM posted to microsoft.public.visio.general
Paul Herber
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Default Fill format doesn't work on shapes created by user

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 05:56:00 -0800, jlschuck
wrote:

I made a shape using the arcs and lines. The shape is closed. I grouped the
elements and then tried to format the fill. The dialog box for the format
fill function indicates that the fill of the shape is changed to the new
color, however when I look at the shape on the drawing it is still white.

Does anyone know what is wrong?


Have you really grouped the shapes? If so then that may be the
problem. You may be trying to fill the group which probably won't work
as the group is just a container for the other shapes.




--
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.
Electronics for Visio http://www.electronics.sandrila.co.uk/
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Old January 16th, 2008, 04:29 AM posted to microsoft.public.visio.general
John Marshall, MVP
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Default Fill format doesn't work on shapes created by user

The other thing is that only a shape (not a group) can be filled and the
Geometry sections for that shape must describe a closed path. The path may
look closed, but the only guaranteed way to check is to examine the Geometry
sections.

John... Visio MVP

Need stencils or ideas? http://visio.mvps.org/3rdparty.htm
Need VBA examples? http://visio.mvps.org/VBA.htm
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"Paul Herber" wrote in message
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On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 05:56:00 -0800, jlschuck
wrote:

I made a shape using the arcs and lines. The shape is closed. I grouped
the
elements and then tried to format the fill. The dialog box for the format
fill function indicates that the fill of the shape is changed to the new
color, however when I look at the shape on the drawing it is still white.

Does anyone know what is wrong?


Have you really grouped the shapes? If so then that may be the
problem. You may be trying to fill the group which probably won't work
as the group is just a container for the other shapes.




--
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.
Electronics for Visio http://www.electronics.sandrila.co.uk/



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Old April 13th, 2010, 07:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.visio.general
Alex Lagunov
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Default Fill

I can't say what is wrong, but I find a way to fill that kind of shapes.
Draw a rectangle over your shape;
Fill it with some color;
Select your shape and rectangle;
Shape Operations Fragment;
There now will be filled copy of your shape.



jlschuc wrote:

Fill format doesn't work on shapes created by user
11-Jan-08

I made a shape using the arcs and lines. The shape is closed. I grouped the
elements and then tried to format the fill. The dialog box for the format
fill function indicates that the fill of the shape is changed to the new
color, however when I look at the shape on the drawing it is still white.

Does anyone know what is wrong?

Previous Posts In This Thread:

On Friday, January 11, 2008 8:56 AM
jlschuc wrote:

Fill format doesn't work on shapes created by user
I made a shape using the arcs and lines. The shape is closed. I grouped the
elements and then tried to format the fill. The dialog box for the format
fill function indicates that the fill of the shape is changed to the new
color, however when I look at the shape on the drawing it is still white.

Does anyone know what is wrong?

On Friday, January 11, 2008 9:46 AM
Philippe wrote:

This looked an easy one I could resolve.
This looked an easy one I could resolve. Nevertheless I fell in the trap and
experienced the same problem.

The first thing I found in the help system that we can still ad a shadow if
the shape is not closed. The shadow worked.
Then I found in the Help system :
"To close the shape, drag the endpoint of the last segment you create over
the vertex at the beginning of the first segment.
The shape becomes opaque, indicating it???s a closed shape."

Maybe you had trouble with the snap and glue, so that it did not become
closed.
Grouping has nothing to do with it.

Try drawing a rectangle with lines and experience the opaqueness.


"jlschuck" wrote:

On Friday, January 11, 2008 10:50 AM
Joe Mako wrote:

My initial thought is to use "Shape-Operations-Join" instead of grouping to
My initial thought is to use "Shape-Operations-Join" instead of grouping
to turn lines into a fillable shape.

Best Regards,
Joe Mako

On Friday, January 11, 2008 11:08 AM
John Goldsmith wrote:

Fill is based on individual Geometry sections within the ShapeSheet.
Fill is based on individual Geometry sections within the ShapeSheet. Simply
drawing a selection of 1D shapes and then grouping won't necessarily create
a single path and so there won't be anything to fill. As Joe suggests you
need to 'Join' your lines to create one or more Geometry sections that can
then accept a fill.

For a bit of background reading take a look at this link:

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...ffice.10).aspx

Best regards

John


John Goldsmith
www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk
www.visualSignals.co.uk

"jlschuck" wrote in message
...

On Friday, January 11, 2008 1:36 PM
Philippe wrote:

I did my little experiments in Visio 2003. In 2007 it does not work any more.
I did my little experiments in Visio 2003. In 2007 it does not work any
more. I give up.

"Philippe C." wrote:

On Friday, January 11, 2008 11:34 PM
John Marshall, MVP wrote:

Fill format doesn't work on shapes created by user
Two other points:

1) Open the shapesheet and check each geometry section to see what the
NoFill value is.
2) Open the shapesheet and make sure the last entry in each Geometry section
refers to the first entry. This will guarantee a closed loop.

John... Visio MVP

Need stencils or ideas? http://visio.mvps.org/3rdparty.htm
Need VBA examples? http://visio.mvps.org/VBA.htm
Visio Wishlist http://visio.mvps.org/wish_list.htm
"John Goldsmith" wrote in message
...

On Saturday, January 12, 2008 7:42 PM
Paul Herber wrote:

Fill format doesn't work on shapes created by user
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 05:56:00 -0800, jlschuck
wrote:


Have you really grouped the shapes? If so then that may be the
problem. You may be trying to fill the group which probably won't work
as the group is just a container for the other shapes.




--
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.
Electronics for Visio http://www.electronics.sandrila.co.uk/

On Tuesday, January 15, 2008 10:29 PM
John Marshall, MVP wrote:

The other thing is that only a shape (not a group) can be filled and the
The other thing is that only a shape (not a group) can be filled and the
Geometry sections for that shape must describe a closed path. The path may
look closed, but the only guaranteed way to check is to examine the Geometry
sections.

John... Visio MVP

Need stencils or ideas? http://visio.mvps.org/3rdparty.htm
Need VBA examples? http://visio.mvps.org/VBA.htm
Visio Wishlist http://visio.mvps.org/wish_list.htm
"Paul Herber" wrote in message
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