How to teach Visio.

Any pedagogic suggestions ?
I have allready a list of little caveats a user should be aware of.
And things which are easier to see in a course than to follow in a book.
Why should everyone have a course in Visio (and also in Sketchup) ?
I'll be at the conference.

Depends on what you are trying to teach. There are several good books on
general use, like the Inside/Out or the Visio Bible. For programming, the
starting point is DVS, Developing Visio Solutions. If you are dealing with
Program fantics, then Graham Wideman's books should be used to supplement
DVS.

Drop by the Microsoft or MVP booth and say hi. Most of the Visio MVPs and
the Visio devs will be there.

John... Visio MVP

Need stencils or ideas? http://visio.mvps.org/3rdparty.htm
Need VBA examples? http://visio.mvps.org/VBA.htm
Visio Wishlist http://visio.mvps.org/wish_list.htm
"Philippe C." wrote in message
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Any pedagogic suggestions ?
I have allready a list of little caveats a user should be aware of.
And things which are easier to see in a course than to follow in a book.
Why should everyone have a course in Visio (and also in Sketchup) ?
I'll be at the conference.

AFAIK the DVS text isn't available in hard copy, so as a tutorial it can get
to be pretty annoying to read on-line. I would then favor David Edson's book
as one of the references for those getting started. Of course the video
tutorials on-line on the office site can also show some directions you might
take on.
al

"Philippe C." wrote:

Any pedagogic suggestions ?
I have allready a list of little caveats a user should be aware of.
And things which are easier to see in a course than to follow in a book.
Why should everyone have a course in Visio (and also in Sketchup) ?
I'll be at the conference.

Hi Al,

I haven't read David Edson's book, but DVS is available in hard copy
(http://www.amazon.com/Developing-Mic...348312&sr=8-2).
I think you're right about online vs hard copy. Paper's still hard to beat
for reading cover to cover.

Best regards

John


John Goldsmith
www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk
www.visualSignals.co.uk

"Al Edlund" wrote in message
...
AFAIK the DVS text isn't available in hard copy, so as a tutorial it can
get
to be pretty annoying to read on-line. I would then favor David Edson's
book
as one of the references for those getting started. Of course the video
tutorials on-line on the office site can also show some directions you
might
take on.
al

"Philippe C." wrote:

Any pedagogic suggestions ?
I have allready a list of little caveats a user should be aware of.
And things which are easier to see in a course than to follow in a book.
Why should everyone have a course in Visio (and also in Sketchup) ?
I'll be at the conference.

John,
David's book was my introduction (while Visio still sent DVS as a PDF (gotta
luv acronyms)). I still go back to some of his demonstrations to get ideas
on how to implement things.
Kinda like Graham's stuff.
Al

"John Goldsmith" wrote in message
...
Hi Al,

I haven't read David Edson's book, but DVS is available in hard copy
(http://www.amazon.com/Developing-Mic...348312&sr=8-2).
I think you're right about online vs hard copy. Paper's still hard to
beat for reading cover to cover.

Best regards

John


John Goldsmith
www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk
www.visualSignals.co.uk

"Al Edlund" wrote in message
...
AFAIK the DVS text isn't available in hard copy, so as a tutorial it can
get
to be pretty annoying to read on-line. I would then favor David Edson's
book
as one of the references for those getting started. Of course the video
tutorials on-line on the office site can also show some directions you
might
take on.
al

"Philippe C." wrote:

Any pedagogic suggestions ?
I have allready a list of little caveats a user should be aware of.
And things which are easier to see in a course than to follow in a book.
Why should everyone have a course in Visio (and also in Sketchup) ?
I'll be at the conference.

Hi Al,

I'll have to see if I can track down a copy of David's book then and check
it out.

Best regards

John


John Goldsmith
www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk
www.visualSignals.co.uk

"Al Edlund" wrote in message
...
John,
David's book was my introduction (while Visio still sent DVS as a PDF
(gotta luv acronyms)). I still go back to some of his demonstrations to
get ideas on how to implement things.
Kinda like Graham's stuff.
Al

"John Goldsmith" wrote in message
...
Hi Al,

I haven't read David Edson's book, but DVS is available in hard copy
(http://www.amazon.com/Developing-Mic...348312&sr=8-2).
I think you're right about online vs hard copy. Paper's still hard to
beat for reading cover to cover.

Best regards

John


John Goldsmith
www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk
www.visualSignals.co.uk

"Al Edlund" wrote in message
...
AFAIK the DVS text isn't available in hard copy, so as a tutorial it can
get
to be pretty annoying to read on-line. I would then favor David Edson's
book
as one of the references for those getting started. Of course the video
tutorials on-line on the office site can also show some directions you
might
take on.
al

"Philippe C." wrote:

Any pedagogic suggestions ?
I have allready a list of little caveats a user should be aware of.
And things which are easier to see in a course than to follow in a
book.
Why should everyone have a course in Visio (and also in Sketchup) ?
I'll be at the conference.

I have every book on Visio, except ".. Step by Step".
I just meticulously followed the eight on line courses by Microsoft.
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/tr...109221033.aspx
I think that can serve as a guide for teaching in a class room.
I even discovered the use of the Text Box Tool to move text.

"Philippe C." wrote:

Any pedagogic suggestions ?
I have allready a list of little caveats a user should be aware of.
And things which are easier to see in a course than to follow in a book.
Why should everyone have a course in Visio (and also in Sketchup) ?
I'll be at the conference.

Are you coming to the Visio conference?

John... Visio MVP

Need stencils or ideas? http://visio.mvps.org/3rdparty.htm
Need VBA examples? http://visio.mvps.org/VBA.htm
Visio Wishlist http://visio.mvps.org/wish_list.htm

"John Goldsmith" wrote in message
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Hi Al,

I haven't read David Edson's book, but DVS is available in hard copy
(http://www.amazon.com/Developing-Mic...348312&sr=8-2).
I think you're right about online vs hard copy. Paper's still hard to
beat for reading cover to cover.

Best regards

John Goldsmith
www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk
www.visualSignals.co.uk

Originally DVS was available as a book that came with the software (remember
those days?). At that time, DVS stood for Developing Visio Shapes. There was
also a book called Programming Visio which was eventually combined with DVS.
After that it came as an Acrobat file called, DVS.PDF. So if you still have
an older copy of Visio, you should be able to find a copy of DVS.PDF.

So Al, you prefer hard copy to online? You must have been well trained at
IBM to lug around their manuals. I've installed many TNLs in my life time
and if I can get a soft copy, I'll get it.

I keep kidding Graham that since his books continue on from DVS, that DVS
really stands for "Da Very Start".

John... Visio MVP

Three weeks till the Visio Conference!!!! ;-)

Need stencils or ideas? http://visio.mvps.org/3rdparty.htm
Need VBA examples? http://visio.mvps.org/VBA.htm
Visio Wishlist http://visio.mvps.org/wish_list.htm
"Al Edlund" wrote in message
...
AFAIK the DVS text isn't available in hard copy, so as a tutorial it can
get
to be pretty annoying to read on-line. I would then favor David Edson's
book
as one of the references for those getting started. Of course the video
tutorials on-line on the office site can also show some directions you
might
take on.
al

"Philippe C." wrote:

Any pedagogic suggestions ?
I have allready a list of little caveats a user should be aware of.
And things which are easier to see in a course than to follow in a book.
Why should everyone have a course in Visio (and also in Sketchup) ?
I'll be at the conference.

Hello John,

Unfortunately not. I've recently taken delivery of a new son and am still
trying to work out how this new package operates, as he doesn't come with a
manual, online or otherwise

Best regards

John


John Goldsmith
www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk
www.visualSignals.co.uk

"John Marshall, MVP" wrote in message
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Are you coming to the Visio conference?

John... Visio MVP

Need stencils or ideas? http://visio.mvps.org/3rdparty.htm
Need VBA examples? http://visio.mvps.org/VBA.htm
Visio Wishlist http://visio.mvps.org/wish_list.htm

"John Goldsmith" wrote in message
...
Hi Al,

I haven't read David Edson's book, but DVS is available in hard copy
(http://www.amazon.com/Developing-Mic...348312&sr=8-2).
I think you're right about online vs hard copy. Paper's still hard to
beat for reading cover to cover.

Best regards

John Goldsmith
www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk
www.visualSignals.co.uk