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  #11  
Old August 15th, 2009, 09:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.office.setup
Jeff Strickland
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Your (the OP's) mother can install the software on up to three machines for
her personal use. Microsoft cannot pursue her for any incidental use arising
from her volunteer work.




"LVTravel" wrote in message
...


"lizzymae17" wrote in message
...
My mom works as a the treasurer for a local ambulance and she goes to a
lot
of seminars for her job. I was wondering if I could install Microsoft
Office
2007 on her laptop. It's not a commercial business could I still install
it
even though it's home and student?


JoAnn's response is correct. The Home and Student license specifically
states that it must be 1. not used for commercial purposes. The exact
wording is: "a. Licensed Device. You may install one copy of the
software on three licensed devices in your household for use by people who
reside there.
The software is not licensed for use in any commercial, non-profit, or
revenue-generating business activities."

Notice the words Commercial, Non-Profit and Revenue-generating in the
exclusions to proper licensing use....... So all the posts by Jeff
Strickland are incorrect.



  #12  
Old August 15th, 2009, 09:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.office.setup
Jeff Strickland
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Default install Office on a work computer

Whatever.




  #13  
Old August 15th, 2009, 09:23 PM posted to microsoft.public.office.setup
ANONYMOUS[_2_]
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Default install Office on a work computer

You are talking poppycock. Businesses can purchase retail version if
they want to. You guys should be executed to stop you from misinforming
Microsoft customers. Microsoft is struggling as it is and you guys are
making it worse.


Peter Foldes wrote:

Jeff

Who in the world was mentioning H&S version at all. As far as Jo-Ann's
answer goes she is absolutely correct in her posting.
Any version of Office that is purchased at a Retail level is for
personal use. For business use you need to purchase and install a VLK
version and that is a complete different story

  #14  
Old August 16th, 2009, 12:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.office.setup
JoAnn Paules
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Default install Office on a work computer

It has a different license and that license spells out what they can legally
do with that edition. I did not write that license, I'm just telling the OP
what they wanted to know.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"



"Jeff Strickland" wrote in message
...
JoAnn,
Is that true if the install is the only instance for the package? Home and
Student has a different feature set, not different installation
conditions.

If a person can do what they do with the Home & Student Edition, MSoft
does not care, do they? What gets Bill & The Boys all knotted up is when
the same package is installed multiple times, they don't really care what
package is installed for a particular User Application.


TO THE OP
Home & Student has a differennt mix of applications than Small Business
Edition. If your Mom can get her stuff done with Home & Student, then it
is fine for her to carry it on her laptop. The problem is that there are
multiple installs of a product that is supposed to be installed only once.

You need to read the End User License Agreement (EULA) to ascertain
whether the package can be installed on two machines owned by the same
person. (This was allowable once upon a time, I can't say that it is still
allowed or not.) The idea is that a perosn might have a machine at home
and a machine they carry -- a laptop, for example. This person would not
reasonably use both machines at the same time, nor would one person be on
one machine while another person was on the other machine, so while the
package was installed twice, it was only used once at any given time. In
such a scenario, your Mom would have a computer in her office at home and
her laptop. She would go into the field with the laptop and perform some
task(s), then come home and load the files she created onto her computer
in the office and do more work on the same files. Or even make different
files.

The rub comes when she is in the field and you are in her office, and both
are using the Office Suite that MSoft reasonably wants both of you to have
paid for.

The clear violation of the EULA would be for you or your Mom to have
purchased Home & Student, and then installed it on your machine, her
machine, your brother's machine, your uncle's machine, the machine of
three of your neighbors, and so on.




"JoAnn Paules" wrote in message
...
That would be against the license. Even if it's volunteer work, it's not
allowed.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"



"lizzymae17" wrote in message
...
My mom works as a the treasurer for a local ambulance and she goes to a
lot
of seminars for her job. I was wondering if I could install Microsoft
Office
2007 on her laptop. It's not a commercial business could I still
install it
even though it's home and student?





  #15  
Old August 16th, 2009, 12:15 AM posted to microsoft.public.office.setup
JoAnn Paules
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Default install Office on a work computer

My name is JoAnn, not Joanne. And I don't think anyone asking a question is
dodgy nor have I ever said so.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"



"ANONYMOUS" wrote in message
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Just ignore Joanne Paules. She has lost her marbles. To her anybody
asking a question here is dodgy and he/she is using dodgy microsoft
product. She is on record to say in such terms on these newsgroups.

hth


Jeff Strickland wrote:

JoAnn,
Is that true if the install is the only instance for the package? Home and
Student has a different feature set, not different installation
conditions.

If a person can do what they do with the Home & Student Edition, MSoft
does not care, do they? What gets Bill & The Boys all knotted up is when
the same package is installed multiple times, they don't really care what
package is installed for a particular User Application.


TO THE OP
Home & Student has a differennt mix of applications than Small Business
Edition. If your Mom can get her stuff done with Home & Student, then it
is fine for her to carry it on her laptop. The problem is that there are
multiple installs of a product that is supposed to be installed only once.

You need to read the End User License Agreement (EULA) to ascertain
whether the package can be installed on two machines owned by the same
person. (This was allowable once upon a time, I can't say that it is still
allowed or not.) The idea is that a perosn might have a machine at home
and a machine they carry -- a laptop, for example. This person would not
reasonably use both machines at the same time, nor would one person be on
one machine while another person was on the other machine, so while the
package was installed twice, it was only used once at any given time. In
such a scenario, your Mom would have a computer in her office at home and
her laptop. She would go into the field with the laptop and perform some
task(s), then come home and load the files she created onto her computer
in the office and do more work on the same files. Or even make different
files.

The rub comes when she is in the field and you are in her office, and both
are using the Office Suite that MSoft reasonably wants both of you to have
paid for.

The clear violation of the EULA would be for you or your Mom to have
purchased Home & Student, and then installed it on your machine, her
machine, your brother's machine, your uncle's machine, the machine of
three of your neighbors, and so on.




"JoAnn Paules" wrote in message
...

That would be against the license. Even if it's volunteer work, it's not
allowed.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"



"lizzymae17" wrote in message
...

My mom works as a the treasurer for a local ambulance and she goes to a
lot
of seminars for her job. I was wondering if I could install Microsoft
Office
2007 on her laptop. It's not a commercial business could I still
install it
even though it's home and student?





  #16  
Old August 17th, 2009, 03:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.office.setup
news.microsoft.com[_40_]
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Default install Office on a work computer


"Jeff Strickland" wrote in message
...
Your (the OP's) mother can install the software on up to three machines
for her personal use. Microsoft cannot pursue her for any incidental use
arising from her volunteer work.




"LVTravel" wrote in message
...


"lizzymae17" wrote in message
...
My mom works as a the treasurer for a local ambulance and she goes to a
lot
of seminars for her job. I was wondering if I could install Microsoft
Office
2007 on her laptop. It's not a commercial business could I still
install it
even though it's home and student?


JoAnn's response is correct. The Home and Student license specifically
states that it must be 1. not used for commercial purposes. The exact
wording is: "a. Licensed Device. You may install one copy of the
software on three licensed devices in your household for use by people
who reside there.
The software is not licensed for use in any commercial, non-profit, or
revenue-generating business activities."

Notice the words Commercial, Non-Profit and Revenue-generating in the
exclusions to proper licensing use....... So all the posts by Jeff
Strickland are incorrect.




Sure they can, but in most instances they don't choose to. Why don't you
provide a major charity, Red Cross, Salvation Army or the like, with a
couple of H & S licenses. See how long it would take MS to target them and
then you for providing the licenses in the first place. It is a violation
of the EULA and you can be sued for that violation. They have sued
successfully in the past for the violation of the license agreement but
usually only for blatant violations.


  #17  
Old August 17th, 2009, 06:27 PM posted to microsoft.public.office.setup
Jeff Strickland
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Default install Office on a work computer


"news.microsoft.com" wrote in message
...

"Jeff Strickland" wrote in message
...
Your (the OP's) mother can install the software on up to three machines
for her personal use. Microsoft cannot pursue her for any incidental use
arising from her volunteer work.




"LVTravel" wrote in message
...


"lizzymae17" wrote in message
...
My mom works as a the treasurer for a local ambulance and she goes to a
lot
of seminars for her job. I was wondering if I could install Microsoft
Office
2007 on her laptop. It's not a commercial business could I still
install it
even though it's home and student?

JoAnn's response is correct. The Home and Student license specifically
states that it must be 1. not used for commercial purposes. The exact
wording is: "a. Licensed Device. You may install one copy of the
software on three licensed devices in your household for use by people
who reside there.
The software is not licensed for use in any commercial, non-profit, or
revenue-generating business activities."

Notice the words Commercial, Non-Profit and Revenue-generating in the
exclusions to proper licensing use....... So all the posts by Jeff
Strickland are incorrect.




Sure they can, but in most instances they don't choose to. Why don't you
provide a major charity, Red Cross, Salvation Army or the like, with a
couple of H & S licenses. See how long it would take MS to target them
and then you for providing the licenses in the first place. It is a
violation of the EULA and you can be sued for that violation. They have
sued successfully in the past for the violation of the license agreement
but usually only for blatant violations.



There is a huge difference in providing a charity with software and showing
up on the doorstep of a charity with my own computer and taking on a few
charitable tasks.

I'm certain that they could and would sue under the conditions you cite, and
they would not pursue the conditions I have cited. they have bigger fish to
fry than to go after grandma writing a note in Word while she is
volunteering.









 




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