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"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote in message ... (bottom post) "KAR" wrote in message link.net... "Michael Santovec" wrote in message ... I'm doubtful a reinstall would help. Can you be a bit more specific on your problem? You news post seemed fine. Yes, posts I originate for Usenet seem to be fine. Does it only happen with Forwards (new messages and replies are OK)? Yes. You say the problem doesn't occur with Earthlink. Does it occur with another mail server? It doesn't occur with my Earthlink mail; Usenet mail I forward which goes through Earthlink has the problem. I'm pasting your post as it appeared on a forwarded command: To wit: "Michael Santovec" wrote in message news:... I'm doubtful a reinstall would help. Can you be a bit more specific on your problem? You news snip/ That is not how my OE would forward Michael's post. eg example ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Santovec Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 17:08 Subject: Reinstalling OE... I'm doubtful a reinstall would help. /example How did you get that first line: example "Michael Santovec" wrote in message news:... /example By hitting the forward button. Was that captured from a composition window or does this reformatting occur sometime later? It occurs in the window that results from hitting "Forward" in OE What this looks like to me is the effects of some third-party formatting product such as OEQuoteFix. That product does allow you to create custom quotes and I'm not certain but I think it may even have an option to reformat paragraphs in the fashion of RFC2646. The only things then which would make it unlikely to be OEQuoteFix and force it to be some unknown similar product are that it would be oblivious of the convention that denotes a quoted line and it would only work in HTML mode. That last restriction seems very odd because where such a tool would be most useful would be in allowing Plain Text messages retrieved from Drafts to be treated as if they had never been saved there. If you have such third-party tools installed please remove them to see if your symptoms change. None that I know of; I looked in the Add/Remove Program list and didn't see that program. HTH Robert Aldwinckle --- |
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"KAR" wrote in message
news "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote in message ... (bottom post) "KAR" wrote in message link.net... "Michael Santovec" wrote in message ... I'm doubtful a reinstall would help. Can you be a bit more specific on your problem? You news post seemed fine. Yes, posts I originate for Usenet seem to be fine. Does it only happen with Forwards (new messages and replies are OK)? Yes. You say the problem doesn't occur with Earthlink. Does it occur with another mail server? It doesn't occur with my Earthlink mail; Usenet mail I forward which goes through Earthlink has the problem. I'm pasting your post as it appeared on a forwarded command: To wit: "Michael Santovec" wrote in message news:... I'm doubtful a reinstall would help. Can you be a bit more specific on your problem? You news snip/ That is not how my OE would forward Michael's post. eg example ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Santovec Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 17:08 Subject: Reinstalling OE... I'm doubtful a reinstall would help. /example How did you get that first line: example "Michael Santovec" wrote in message news:... /example By hitting the forward button. Was that captured from a composition window or does this reformatting occur sometime later? It occurs in the window that results from hitting "Forward" in OE What this looks like to me is the effects of some third-party formatting product such as OEQuoteFix. That product does allow you to create custom quotes and I'm not certain but I think it may even have an option to reformat paragraphs in the fashion of RFC2646. The only things then which would make it unlikely to be OEQuoteFix and force it to be some unknown similar product are that it would be oblivious of the convention that denotes a quoted line and it would only work in HTML mode. That last restriction seems very odd because where such a tool would be most useful would be in allowing Plain Text messages retrieved from Drafts to be treated as if they had never been saved there. If you have such third-party tools installed please remove them to see if your symptoms change. None that I know of; I looked in the Add/Remove Program list and didn't see that program. Nevertheless that opening quote is a difference that needs an explanation. PA Bear asked you if your Mail server had provided special software. Your answer about this question was not clear to me. If they did then you should try uninstalling it and see if that reverts the opening quote back to OE's default format. Alternatively, if you would like to try diagnosing this what I would try is using FileMon (from SysInternals) to trace *.dll activity by msimn.exe when you do that Ctrl-f command to forward an E-mail. HTH Robert --- |
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"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote in message ... "KAR" wrote in message news "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote in message ... (bottom post) "KAR" wrote in message link.net... "Michael Santovec" wrote in message ... I'm doubtful a reinstall would help. Can you be a bit more specific on your problem? You news post seemed fine. Yes, posts I originate for Usenet seem to be fine. Does it only happen with Forwards (new messages and replies are OK)? Yes. You say the problem doesn't occur with Earthlink. Does it occur with another mail server? It doesn't occur with my Earthlink mail; Usenet mail I forward which goes through Earthlink has the problem. I'm pasting your post as it appeared on a forwarded command: To wit: "Michael Santovec" wrote in message news:... I'm doubtful a reinstall would help. Can you be a bit more specific on your problem? You news snip/ That is not how my OE would forward Michael's post. eg example ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Santovec Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 17:08 Subject: Reinstalling OE... I'm doubtful a reinstall would help. /example How did you get that first line: example "Michael Santovec" wrote in message news:... /example By hitting the forward button. Was that captured from a composition window or does this reformatting occur sometime later? It occurs in the window that results from hitting "Forward" in OE What this looks like to me is the effects of some third-party formatting product such as OEQuoteFix. That product does allow you to create custom quotes and I'm not certain but I think it may even have an option to reformat paragraphs in the fashion of RFC2646. The only things then which would make it unlikely to be OEQuoteFix and force it to be some unknown similar product are that it would be oblivious of the convention that denotes a quoted line and it would only work in HTML mode. That last restriction seems very odd because where such a tool would be most useful would be in allowing Plain Text messages retrieved from Drafts to be treated as if they had never been saved there. If you have such third-party tools installed please remove them to see if your symptoms change. None that I know of; I looked in the Add/Remove Program list and didn't see that program. Nevertheless that opening quote is a difference that needs an explanation. Which opening quote? The one about posts which I originate for Usenet? if so, what I was trying to say was that I can respond to usenet postings (as I am now) and the messages appear as they should. I have to take no extra measures to respond to newstroup postings. If, though, I want to forward an article that I read in Usenet to an e-mail recipient, then I get the wrapping problem. If that doesn't make sense or it's another opening quote, let me know. PA Bear asked you if your Mail server had provided special software. Yes, the Total Access disk was provided by Earthlink, however the problem pre-existed the installation; I've had this problem since I logged onto this computer (which I got new, and with the exception of this one problem has been stellar in every other respect). Similarly on my previous computer, I had the software and OE (same version) and there was not a problem. Your answer about this question was not clear to me. Perhaps it's because I'm not computer literate; it's certainly not an attempt on my part to be vague or evasive. I came here for help not to impede my efforts. If they did then you should try uninstalling it and see if that reverts the opening quote back to OE's default format. Alternatively, if you would like to try diagnosing this what I would try is using FileMon (from SysInternals) to trace *.dll activity by msimn.exe when you do that Ctrl-f command to forward an E-mail. I couldn't begin to do something like that. I would only end up destroying something. Ultimately, if I have to, I can live with this problem, I was just hoping that I wouldn't have to without threatening my otherwise very good computer operation. HTH Robert --- |
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Nevertheless that opening quote is a difference that needs an explanation.
Which opening quote? Your quote of Michael's reply begins: I'm pasting your post as it appeared on a forwarded command: To wit: "Michael Santovec" wrote in message news:... I'm doubtful My quote of Michael's reply as a result of a Forward command begins: example ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Santovec Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 17:08 Subject: Reinstalling OE... I'm doubtful a reinstall would help. The customization implied by that "wrote in message:..." you show could have been caused by something such as OEQuoteFix. BTW are you sure that your quote was caused by a Forward command? Some of it looks more likely to have been caused by a Reply to Group command but then the ... would have replaced the default of the Message-ID or should we not believe your statement about it being the result of a forward command at all? Robert --- "KAR" wrote in message ink.net... "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote in message ... "KAR" wrote in message news "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote in message ... (bottom post) "KAR" wrote in message link.net... "Michael Santovec" wrote in message ... I'm doubtful a reinstall would help. Can you be a bit more specific on your problem? You news post seemed fine. Yes, posts I originate for Usenet seem to be fine. Does it only happen with Forwards (new messages and replies are OK)? Yes. You say the problem doesn't occur with Earthlink. Does it occur with another mail server? It doesn't occur with my Earthlink mail; Usenet mail I forward which goes through Earthlink has the problem. I'm pasting your post as it appeared on a forwarded command: To wit: "Michael Santovec" wrote in message news:... I'm doubtful a reinstall would help. Can you be a bit more specific on your problem? You news snip/ That is not how my OE would forward Michael's post. eg example ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Santovec Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 17:08 Subject: Reinstalling OE... I'm doubtful a reinstall would help. /example How did you get that first line: example "Michael Santovec" wrote in message news:... /example By hitting the forward button. Was that captured from a composition window or does this reformatting occur sometime later? It occurs in the window that results from hitting "Forward" in OE What this looks like to me is the effects of some third-party formatting product such as OEQuoteFix. That product does allow you to create custom quotes and I'm not certain but I think it may even have an option to reformat paragraphs in the fashion of RFC2646. The only things then which would make it unlikely to be OEQuoteFix and force it to be some unknown similar product are that it would be oblivious of the convention that denotes a quoted line and it would only work in HTML mode. That last restriction seems very odd because where such a tool would be most useful would be in allowing Plain Text messages retrieved from Drafts to be treated as if they had never been saved there. If you have such third-party tools installed please remove them to see if your symptoms change. None that I know of; I looked in the Add/Remove Program list and didn't see that program. Nevertheless that opening quote is a difference that needs an explanation. Which opening quote? The one about posts which I originate for Usenet? if so, what I was trying to say was that I can respond to usenet postings (as I am now) and the messages appear as they should. I have to take no extra measures to respond to newstroup postings. If, though, I want to forward an article that I read in Usenet to an e-mail recipient, then I get the wrapping problem. If that doesn't make sense or it's another opening quote, let me know. PA Bear asked you if your Mail server had provided special software. Yes, the Total Access disk was provided by Earthlink, however the problem pre-existed the installation; I've had this problem since I logged onto this computer (which I got new, and with the exception of this one problem has been stellar in every other respect). Similarly on my previous computer, I had the software and OE (same version) and there was not a problem. Your answer about this question was not clear to me. Perhaps it's because I'm not computer literate; it's certainly not an attempt on my part to be vague or evasive. I came here for help not to impede my efforts. If they did then you should try uninstalling it and see if that reverts the opening quote back to OE's default format. Alternatively, if you would like to try diagnosing this what I would try is using FileMon (from SysInternals) to trace *.dll activity by msimn.exe when you do that Ctrl-f command to forward an E-mail. I couldn't begin to do something like that. I would only end up destroying something. Ultimately, if I have to, I can live with this problem, I was just hoping that I wouldn't have to without threatening my otherwise very good computer operation. HTH Robert --- |
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"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote in message ... Nevertheless that opening quote is a difference that needs an explanation. Which opening quote? Your quote of Michael's reply begins: I'm pasting your post as it appeared on a forwarded command: To wit: "Michael Santovec" wrote in message news:... I'm doubtful My quote of Michael's reply as a result of a Forward command begins: example ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Santovec Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 17:08 Subject: Reinstalling OE... I'm doubtful a reinstall would help. The customization implied by that "wrote in message:..." you show could have been caused by something such as OEQuoteFix. BTW are you sure that your quote was caused by a Forward command? Some of it looks more likely to have been caused by a Reply to Group command but then the ... would have replaced the default of the Message-ID or should we not believe your statement about it being the result of a forward command at all? Oh, yes... To reply to newsgroup, I hit "Reply Group", my problem is specifically when I "Forward". Sorry for my lack of clarity. Robert --- [snipped rest] |
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