Reinstalling OE...

nope. (it was already set that way).

"PA Bear" wrote in message ...
ToolsOptionsSendMail Sending FormatPlain TextWrapping Decrease this
setting to 76 or lower and see if doing so makes any difference. --
~PA Bear KAR wrote: I tried setting up a new account and forwarding
a message. I had the same problem. I didn't delete my old OE, I just
created a new identity as per your suggestion. Also, I removed
Zone Alert; this problem has existed since I got this computer in
October and was constant after I installed ZA (as well as since I
removed it today). Still open to suggestion or correcton, thanks.
If problem persists when connected and with ZA enabled, see if
disabling ZA makes any difference. ZA has given you problems in the
past. I am suggesting creating a new Named Identity. If the
problem doesn't persist in it, import messages from your old identity
before deleting it. -- KAR wrote: I disabled it this
morning since I'm on a non-network computer, figuring I'm therefore
not in need of it. This is my only problem (I may need help
with identities). Are you suggesting I add an identity and if it
works deleting this identity? I'll wait for a response. Thanks for
all your help. "PA Bear" wrote in message
... Your current
Identity may be damaged, especially if its the default Main
Identity. Try one or more of your accounts in a new Named Identity
(FileIdentitiesAdd new identity). Assuming all is well, import
messages from the old Identity before deleting it
(FileIdentitiesManage Identities). Are you still
running ZA? Any change if you disable it? -- In the
message window, try FormatEncodingWestern European (ISO).
Check your settings at ToolsOptionsSendMail
SendingPlain Text (try MIME/None). --
Nope.


"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
lightbulb ToolsOptionsSendMail Sending FormatPlain TextWrapping
Decrease this setting to 76 or lower and see if doing so makes any
difference.
--
~PA Bear

KAR wrote:
I tried setting up a new account and forwarding a message. I had the
same
problem.
I didn't delete my old OE, I just created a new identity as per your
suggestion.

Also, I removed Zone Alert; this problem has existed since I got this
computer in October and was constant after I installed ZA (as well as
since I removed it today).

Still open to suggestion or correcton, thanks.

If problem persists when connected and with ZA enabled, see if
disabling ZA makes any difference. ZA has given you problems in the
past.

I am suggesting creating a new Named Identity. If the problem doesn't
persist in it, import messages from your old identity before deleting
it. --
KAR wrote:
I disabled it this morning since I'm on a non-network computer,
figuring I'm therefore not in need of it.

This is my only problem (I may need help with identities). Are you
suggesting I add an identity and if it works deleting this identity?
I'll wait for a response. Thanks for all your help.

"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
Your current Identity may be damaged, especially if its the
default
Main Identity. Try one or more of your accounts in a new Named
Identity (FileIdentitiesAdd new identity). Assuming all is
well,
import messages from the old Identity before deleting it
(FileIdentitiesManage Identities).

Are you still running ZA? Any change if you disable it?
--
In the message window, try FormatEncodingWestern European
(ISO).

Check your settings at ToolsOptionsSendMail SendingPlain
Text (try MIME/None).
--
Nope.

Oh, btw, if I didn't clarify...

When I post in Usenet, I don't have the problem. The only way I have this
problem is specifically in forwarding from OE. When I copy a message from a
newsgroup into a OE folder, I don't have the problem. If I forward the
copied message, though, same thing as below.



"KAR" wrote in message
hlink.net...
nope. (it was already set that way).

"PA Bear" wrote in message ...

ToolsOptionsSendMail Sending FormatPlain TextWrapping Decrease
this
setting to 76 or lower and see if doing so makes any difference. --
~PA Bear KAR wrote: I tried setting up a new account and
forwarding
a message. I had the same problem. I didn't delete my old OE, I
just
created a new identity as per your suggestion. Also, I removed
Zone Alert; this problem has existed since I got this computer in
October and was constant after I installed ZA (as well as since I
removed it today). Still open to suggestion or correcton, thanks.

[snippage of wrappage]


Nope.


"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
lightbulb ToolsOptionsSendMail Sending FormatPlain TextWrapping
Decrease this setting to 76 or lower and see if doing so makes any
difference.
--
~PA Bear

KAR wrote:
I tried setting up a new account and forwarding a message. I had the
same
problem.
I didn't delete my old OE, I just created a new identity as per your
suggestion.

Also, I removed Zone Alert; this problem has existed since I got this
computer in October and was constant after I installed ZA (as well as
since I removed it today).

Still open to suggestion or correcton, thanks.

If problem persists when connected and with ZA enabled, see if
disabling ZA makes any difference. ZA has given you problems in the
past.

I am suggesting creating a new Named Identity. If the problem
doesn't
persist in it, import messages from your old identity before
deleting
it. --
KAR wrote:
I disabled it this morning since I'm on a non-network computer,
figuring I'm therefore not in need of it.

This is my only problem (I may need help with identities). Are
you
suggesting I add an identity and if it works deleting this
identity?
I'll wait for a response. Thanks for all your help.

"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
Your current Identity may be damaged, especially if its the
default
Main Identity. Try one or more of your accounts in a new Named
Identity (FileIdentitiesAdd new identity). Assuming all is
well,
import messages from the old Identity before deleting it
(FileIdentitiesManage Identities).

Are you still running ZA? Any change if you disable it?
--
In the message window, try FormatEncodingWestern European
(ISO).

Check your settings at ToolsOptionsSendMail SendingPlain
Text (try MIME/None).
--
Nope.

Then stop using ENTER to begin a new line in a paragraph, please. Let OE
take care of it and only use ENTER to begin a new paragraph.

When I post in Usenet, I don't have the problem. The only way I have this
problem is specifically in forwarding from OE. When I copy a message
from a newsgroup into a OE folder, I don't have the problem. If I
forward the copied message, though, same thing as below.

What's your default Mail Client (e.g., OE, OL)? What's your default Browser
(e.g., IE, Netscape, Firefox)?

Remind me of your Windows version, please.

Does the problem persist if you use the MS newsserver to access this and
other MS newsgroups, instead of the one you currently use (provided by
Earthlink?)?

Clicking on the following link will open this newsgroup using the MS server
in your default newsreader:

news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress

Mo http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/resou...tm#setupmsnews
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE), AH-VSOP

Are You Ready for WinXP SP2?
http://support.microsoft.com/default...r=windowsxpsp2

What You Should Know About Spyware
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...ssoftware.mspx

AumHa Forums
http://forum.aumha.org

KAR wrote:
nope. (it was already set that way).

"PA Bear" wrote in message
... ToolsOptionsSendMail
Sending FormatPlain TextWrapping Decrease this setting to 76 or
lower and see if doing so makes any difference.

"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
Then stop using ENTER to begin a new line in a paragraph, please.

I think that was me copying forwarded e-mail to show the problem. I won't
do it any more, as I think you clearly understand the problem. : )


Let OE
take care of it and only use ENTER to begin a new paragraph.

When I post in Usenet, I don't have the problem. The only way I have
this
problem is specifically in forwarding from OE. When I copy a message
from a newsgroup into a OE folder, I don't have the problem. If I
forward the copied message, though, same thing as below.

What's your default Mail Client (e.g., OE, OL)? What's your default
Browser
(e.g., IE, Netscape, Firefox)?

Default Mail: Earthlink Total Access (no problem forwarding from that
program which has no usenet access).

Default Browser: IE 6.0




Remind me of your Windows version, please.


Windows XP



Does the problem persist if you use the MS newsserver to access this and
other MS newsgroups, instead of the one you currently use (provided by
Earthlink?)?

This problem is, [it seems to my highly uneducated sensibility] a function
of OE only which, except for this forwarding issue, functions well.
Forwarding is of use to me, as I sometimes send something I've read to
someone I normally write. The Earthlink mailserver does not access usenet.
This problem exists in all newsgroups I access through OE (I am using two
different new servers on my OE, earthlink [through which I access this
particular ng] and a German server).



Clicking on the following link will open this newsgroup using the MS
server
in your default newsreader:


news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress


That link indeed opened a news server for this group on my OE. The same
problem occurred when I hit forward.


Mo http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/resou...tm#setupmsnews


Thanks. I'll explore this site as well and see if someone else has had this
problem.


--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE), AH-VSOP

Are You Ready for WinXP SP2?
http://support.microsoft.com/default...r=windowsxpsp2

What You Should Know About Spyware
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...ssoftware.mspx

AumHa Forums
http://forum.aumha.org

KAR wrote:
nope. (it was already set that way).

"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
ToolsOptionsSendMail
Sending FormatPlain TextWrapping Decrease this setting to 76 or
lower and see if doing so makes any difference.

"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
Then stop using ENTER to begin a new line in a paragraph, please.

I think that was me copying forwarded e-mail to show the problem. I won't
do it any more, as I think you clearly understand the problem. : )


Let OE
take care of it and only use ENTER to begin a new paragraph.

When I post in Usenet, I don't have the problem. The only way I have
this
problem is specifically in forwarding from OE. When I copy a message
from a newsgroup into a OE folder, I don't have the problem. If I
forward the copied message, though, same thing as below.

What's your default Mail Client (e.g., OE, OL)? What's your default
Browser
(e.g., IE, Netscape, Firefox)?

Default Mail: Earthlink Total Access (no problem forwarding from that
program which has no usenet access).

Default Browser: IE 6.0




Remind me of your Windows version, please.


Windows XP



Does the problem persist if you use the MS newsserver to access this and
other MS newsgroups, instead of the one you currently use (provided by
Earthlink?)?

This problem is, [it seems to my highly uneducated sensibility] a function
of OE only which, except for this forwarding issue, functions well.
Forwarding is of use to me, as I sometimes send something I've read to
someone I normally write. The Earthlink mailserver does not access usenet.
This problem exists in all newsgroups I access through OE (I am using two
different new servers on my OE, earthlink [through which I access this
particular ng] and a German server).



Clicking on the following link will open this newsgroup using the MS
server
in your default newsreader:


news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress


That link indeed opened a news server for this group on my OE. The same
problem occurred when I hit forward.


Mo http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/resou...tm#setupmsnews


Thanks. I'll explore this site as well and see if someone else has had this
problem.


--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE), AH-VSOP

Are You Ready for WinXP SP2?
http://support.microsoft.com/default...r=windowsxpsp2

What You Should Know About Spyware
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...ssoftware.mspx

AumHa Forums
http://forum.aumha.org

KAR wrote:
nope. (it was already set that way).

"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
ToolsOptionsSendMail
Sending FormatPlain TextWrapping Decrease this setting to 76 or
lower and see if doing so makes any difference.

Default Mail: Earthlink Total Access (no problem forwarding from that
program which has no usenet access).

No, that may be your default mail account or you might access Earthlink
webmail via 'Total Access' toolbar. A Mail Client is a third-party
application like OE and Outlook.

Did you install the application named 'Earthlink Total Access'? Why? Might
this problem started after installing it? Have you tried uninstalling it?
It's really not needed, KAR.
--
~PA Bear

KAR wrote:
What's your default Mail Client (e.g., OE, OL)? What's your default
Browser (e.g., IE, Netscape, Firefox)?

Default Mail: Earthlink Total Access (no problem forwarding from that
program which has no usenet access).

Default Browser: IE 6.0

Windows XP

Does the problem persist if you use the MS newsserver to access this and
other MS newsgroups, instead of the one you currently use (provided by
Earthlink?)?

This problem is, [it seems to my highly uneducated sensibility] a function
of OE only which, except for this forwarding issue, functions well.
Forwarding is of use to me, as I sometimes send something I've read to
someone I normally write. The Earthlink mailserver does not access
usenet. This problem exists in all newsgroups I access through OE (I am
using two different new servers on my OE, earthlink [through which I
access this particular ng] and a German server).

Clicking on the following link will open this newsgroup using the MS
server in your default newsreader:

news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress

That link indeed opened a news server for this group on my OE. The same
problem occurred when I hit forward.
--
KAR wrote:
nope. (it was already set that way).

"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
ToolsOptionsSendMail Sending FormatPlain TextWrapping
Decrease this setting to 76 or lower and see if doing so makes any
difference.

"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
Default Mail: Earthlink Total Access (no problem forwarding from that
program which has no usenet access).

No, that may be your default mail account or you might access Earthlink
webmail via 'Total Access' toolbar. A Mail Client is a third-party
application like OE and Outlook.

Earthlink Total Access: The default mail that came with my computer is
Outlook Express but I have set Mailbox as my default. It is useful for me,
particularly the spam filter. I get 0 pieces of spam a day. This problem
existed from the moment I got this computer. I installed the Total Access
program subsequently. It had no effect on the problem, nor did I have this
problem on my previous computers which had both Total Access in OE.


Did you install the application named 'Earthlink Total Access'? Why?
Might
this problem started after installing it? Have you tried uninstalling it?

No.

It's really not needed, KAR.

While I could probably export all my mail and save to OE, I would be in
worse shape if I couldn't forward my e-mail effectively. As this problem
exists, the odds are high that this problem would persist as it pre-exists
my installation of the Total Access software (which I also used previously
and has never created this conflict on other computers).


--
~PA Bear

KAR wrote:
What's your default Mail Client (e.g., OE, OL)? What's your default
Browser (e.g., IE, Netscape, Firefox)?

Default Mail: Earthlink Total Access (no problem forwarding from that
program which has no usenet access).

Default Browser: IE 6.0

Windows XP

Does the problem persist if you use the MS newsserver to access this
and
other MS newsgroups, instead of the one you currently use (provided by
Earthlink?)?

This problem is, [it seems to my highly uneducated sensibility] a
function
of OE only which, except for this forwarding issue, functions well.
Forwarding is of use to me, as I sometimes send something I've read to
someone I normally write. The Earthlink mailserver does not access
usenet. This problem exists in all newsgroups I access through OE (I am
using two different new servers on my OE, earthlink [through which I
access this particular ng] and a German server).

Clicking on the following link will open this newsgroup using the MS
server in your default newsreader:


news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress

That link indeed opened a news server for this group on my OE. The same
problem occurred when I hit forward.
--
KAR wrote:
nope. (it was already set that way).

"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
ToolsOptionsSendMail Sending FormatPlain TextWrapping
Decrease this setting to 76 or lower and see if doing so makes any
difference.

But this problem occurs when you're Forwarding (mail) using OE, correct?

IE ToolsInternet OptionsProgramsMail chosen is...?

WinXP Control PanelAdd/Remove ProgramsSet Program Access and
DefaultsMail ...?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE), AH-VSOP

Are You Ready for WinXP SP2?
http://support.microsoft.com/default...r=windowsxpsp2

What You Should Know About Spyware
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...ssoftware.mspx

AumHa Forums
http://forum.aumha.org

KAR wrote:
"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
Default Mail: Earthlink Total Access (no problem forwarding from that
program which has no usenet access).

No, that may be your default mail account or you might access Earthlink
webmail via 'Total Access' toolbar. A Mail Client is a third-party
application like OE and Outlook.

Earthlink Total Access: The default mail that came with my computer is
Outlook Express but I have set Mailbox as my default. It is useful for
me, particularly the spam filter. I get 0 pieces of spam a day. This
problem existed from the moment I got this computer. I installed the
Total Access program subsequently. It had no effect on the problem, nor
did I have this problem on my previous computers which had both Total
Access in OE.


Did you install the application named 'Earthlink Total Access'? Why?
Might this problem started after installing it? Have you tried
uninstalling it?

No.

It's really not needed, KAR.

While I could probably export all my mail and save to OE, I would be in
worse shape if I couldn't forward my e-mail effectively. As this problem
exists, the odds are high that this problem would persist as it pre-exists
my installation of the Total Access software (which I also used previously
and has never created this conflict on other computers).


--
~PA Bear

KAR wrote:
What's your default Mail Client (e.g., OE, OL)? What's your default
Browser (e.g., IE, Netscape, Firefox)?

Default Mail: Earthlink Total Access (no problem forwarding from that
program which has no usenet access).

Default Browser: IE 6.0

Windows XP

Does the problem persist if you use the MS newsserver to access
this and other MS newsgroups, instead of the one you currently use
(provided by Earthlink?)?

This problem is, [it seems to my highly uneducated sensibility] a
function of OE only which, except for this forwarding issue,
functions well. Forwarding is of use to me, as I sometimes send
something I've read to someone I normally write. The Earthlink
mailserver does not access usenet. This problem exists in all
newsgroups I access through OE (I am using two different new servers
on my OE, earthlink [through which I access this particular ng] and a
German server).

Clicking on the following link will open this newsgroup using the MS
server in your default newsreader:


news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress

That link indeed opened a news server for this group on my OE. The
same problem occurred when I hit forward.
--
KAR wrote:
nope. (it was already set that way).

"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
ToolsOptionsSendMail Sending FormatPlain TextWrapping
Decrease this setting to 76 or lower and see if doing so makes
any difference.

"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
But this problem occurs when you're Forwarding (mail) using OE, correct?

IE ToolsInternet OptionsProgramsMail chosen is...?

EarthLinkTotalAccess MailBox




WinXP Control PanelAdd/Remove ProgramsSet Program Access and
DefaultsMail ...?

Custom
(checked) Use my current e-mail program
(unchecked) Outlook Explorer (checked) Enable Access to this program



--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE), AH-VSOP

Are You Ready for WinXP SP2?
http://support.microsoft.com/default...r=windowsxpsp2

What You Should Know About Spyware
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...ssoftware.mspx

AumHa Forums
http://forum.aumha.org

KAR wrote:
"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
Default Mail: Earthlink Total Access (no problem forwarding from
that
program which has no usenet access).

No, that may be your default mail account or you might access
Earthlink
webmail via 'Total Access' toolbar. A Mail Client is a third-party
application like OE and Outlook.

Earthlink Total Access: The default mail that came with my computer is
Outlook Express but I have set Mailbox as my default. It is useful for
me, particularly the spam filter. I get 0 pieces of spam a day. This
problem existed from the moment I got this computer. I installed the
Total Access program subsequently. It had no effect on the problem, nor
did I have this problem on my previous computers which had both Total
Access in OE.


Did you install the application named 'Earthlink Total Access'? Why?
Might this problem started after installing it? Have you tried
uninstalling it?

No.

It's really not needed, KAR.

While I could probably export all my mail and save to OE, I would be in
worse shape if I couldn't forward my e-mail effectively. As this
problem
exists, the odds are high that this problem would persist as it
pre-exists
my installation of the Total Access software (which I also used
previously
and has never created this conflict on other computers).


--
~PA Bear

KAR wrote:
What's your default Mail Client (e.g., OE, OL)? What's your
default
Browser (e.g., IE, Netscape, Firefox)?

Default Mail: Earthlink Total Access (no problem forwarding from
that
program which has no usenet access).

Default Browser: IE 6.0

Windows XP

Does the problem persist if you use the MS newsserver to access
this and other MS newsgroups, instead of the one you currently use
(provided by Earthlink?)?

This problem is, [it seems to my highly uneducated sensibility] a
function of OE only which, except for this forwarding issue,
functions well. Forwarding is of use to me, as I sometimes send
something I've read to someone I normally write. The Earthlink
mailserver does not access usenet. This problem exists in all
newsgroups I access through OE (I am using two different new servers
on my OE, earthlink [through which I access this particular ng] and
a
German server).

Clicking on the following link will open this newsgroup using the
MS
server in your default newsreader:



news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress

That link indeed opened a news server for this group on my OE. The
same problem occurred when I hit forward.
--
KAR wrote:
nope. (it was already set that way).

"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
ToolsOptionsSendMail Sending FormatPlain TextWrapping
Decrease this setting to 76 or lower and see if doing so makes
any difference.

(bottom post)
"KAR" wrote in message
link.net...

"Michael Santovec" wrote in message
...
I'm doubtful a reinstall would help.

Can you be a bit more specific on your problem? You news post seemed
fine.

Yes, posts I originate for Usenet seem to be fine.



Does it only happen with Forwards (new messages and replies are OK)?

Yes.



You say the problem doesn't occur with Earthlink. Does it occur with
another mail server?

It doesn't occur with my Earthlink mail; Usenet mail I forward which goes
through Earthlink has the problem. I'm pasting your post as it appeared on
a forwarded command:

To wit:

"Michael Santovec" wrote in message news:... I'm doubtful a reinstall
would help. Can you be a bit more specific on your problem? You news

snip/


That is not how my OE would forward Michael's post. eg

example

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Santovec
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 17:08
Subject: Reinstalling OE...


I'm doubtful a reinstall would help.

/example


How did you get that first line:

example
"Michael Santovec" wrote in message news:...
/example

Was that captured from a composition window or does this reformatting
occur sometime later?

What this looks like to me is the effects of some third-party formatting
product such as OEQuoteFix. That product does allow you to create
custom quotes and I'm not certain but I think it may even have an option
to reformat paragraphs in the fashion of RFC2646. The only things
then which would make it unlikely to be OEQuoteFix and force it to be
some unknown similar product are that it would be oblivious of
the convention that denotes a quoted line and it would only work in
HTML mode. That last restriction seems very odd because where such
a tool would be most useful would be in allowing Plain Text messages
retrieved from Drafts to be treated as if they had never been saved there.

If you have such third-party tools installed please remove them
to see if your symptoms change.


HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
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