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Outlook Express Font Control
I am using Outlook Express in IE7 as my email client. Since it was updated
awhile back from a service pack, I have a problem with composing and/or reading received emails in both plain text and HTML format. I use Arial Black 12 as my text message font for RTF messages, like this message, but I am unable to get the text to display as non-italicized characters. All the text I enter appears as italics, and the toolbar I(talics) button and text formatting commands do not allow me to display anything without italics. Ecery HTML message I receive appears as italics, too, and this occurs with arial bold fonts in other styles too. Is there some reason I cannot display anything in Arial Black in standard unitalicized form: BTW I have both font styles installed for Arial Black, the standard and the Italicized. This is not a major problem, but it does annoy me because i cannot actually italicize any text deliberately and selectively, it is instead all italics. This occurs both in emails and newsgroup messages. -- Pete B |
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Outlook uses RTF, not OE. OE uses HTML, in one location referred to as Rich
Text (HTML). Are you using Outlook or OE? -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP [Mail] Imperial Beach, CA "Pete B" wrote in message ... I am using Outlook Express in IE7 as my email client. Since it was updated awhile back from a service pack, I have a problem with composing and/or reading received emails in both plain text and HTML format. I use Arial Black 12 as my text message font for RTF messages, like this message, but I am unable to get the text to display as non-italicized characters. All the text I enter appears as italics, and the toolbar I(talics) button and text formatting commands do not allow me to display anything without italics. Ecery HTML message I receive appears as italics, too, and this occurs with arial bold fonts in other styles too. Is there some reason I cannot display anything in Arial Black in standard unitalicized form: BTW I have both font styles installed for Arial Black, the standard and the Italicized. This is not a major problem, but it does annoy me because i cannot actually italicize any text deliberately and selectively, it is instead all italics. This occurs both in emails and newsgroup messages. -- Pete B |
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Outlook Express Font Control
I am using Outlook Express 6, the email function built into Internet
Explorer 7. What I specified is what the Option settings and display settings of the menus and option dialogs specify. Plain text vs RTF/HTML for example for message format. Yes, it would be the Rich Text (HTML) that OEx refers to as RTF in the Format menu. But it happens whether I select plain text or Rich Text (HTML) for the format. Maybe it has something to do with the encoding? -- Pete B "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ... Outlook uses RTF, not OE. OE uses HTML, in one location referred to as Rich Text (HTML). Are you using Outlook or OE? -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP [Mail] Imperial Beach, CA "Pete B" wrote in message ... I am using Outlook Express in IE7 as my email client. Since it was updated awhile back from a service pack, I have a problem with composing and/or reading received emails in both plain text and HTML format. I use Arial Black 12 as my text message font for RTF messages, like this message, but I am unable to get the text to display as non-italicized characters. All the text I enter appears as italics, and the toolbar I(talics) button and text formatting commands do not allow me to display anything without italics. Ecery HTML message I receive appears as italics, too, and this occurs with arial bold fonts in other styles too. Is there some reason I cannot display anything in Arial Black in standard unitalicized form: BTW I have both font styles installed for Arial Black, the standard and the Italicized. This is not a major problem, but it does annoy me because i cannot actually italicize any text deliberately and selectively, it is instead all italics. This occurs both in emails and newsgroup messages. -- Pete B |
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OE is part and parcel of IE6, but irrelevant to this issue.
It is not impossible, but I have not seen any issue where XP's Service Pack 3 has ever caused this. Try a new identity first. You may have a damaged identity especially if it is the default Main Identity. File | Identity | Add New Identity. Create a new one and test it. If all is well, you can import your messages and Address Book from the old identity and delete it. Note: Do not use the word Main in the name of the new identity. How to Create and Use Identities in Outlook Express http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=209169 An Outlook Express basic repair kit: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...epair.mspx#EHH -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP [Mail] Imperial Beach, CA "Pete B" wrote in message ... I am using Outlook Express 6, the email function built into Internet Explorer 7. What I specified is what the Option settings and display settings of the menus and option dialogs specify. Plain text vs RTF/HTML for example for message format. Yes, it would be the Rich Text (HTML) that OEx refers to as RTF in the Format menu. But it happens whether I select plain text or Rich Text (HTML) for the format. Maybe it has something to do with the encoding? -- Pete B "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message ... Outlook uses RTF, not OE. OE uses HTML, in one location referred to as Rich Text (HTML). Are you using Outlook or OE? -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP [Mail] Imperial Beach, CA "Pete B" wrote in message ... I am using Outlook Express in IE7 as my email client. Since it was updated awhile back from a service pack, I have a problem with composing and/or reading received emails in both plain text and HTML format. I use Arial Black 12 as my text message font for RTF messages, like this message, but I am unable to get the text to display as non-italicized characters. All the text I enter appears as italics, and the toolbar I(talics) button and text formatting commands do not allow me to display anything without italics. Ecery HTML message I receive appears as italics, too, and this occurs with arial bold fonts in other styles too. Is there some reason I cannot display anything in Arial Black in standard unitalicized form: BTW I have both font styles installed for Arial Black, the standard and the Italicized. This is not a major problem, but it does annoy me because i cannot actually italicize any text deliberately and selectively, it is instead all italics. This occurs both in emails and newsgroup messages. -- Pete B |
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...I use Arial
Black 12 as my text message font for RTF messages, like this message You posted here in Plain Text, not RichText/HTML. (As Bruce observes, RTF is found in OL, not OE.) Assuming you're NOT using any Stationery, when composing an email or news message *in HTML format* (only), the font is controlled by your settings... OE Tools | Options | Compose | Compose font | [Mail or News] | Font Settings =here When reading an HTML message, the font is controlled by the sender of the message When reading a Plain Text message, the font is controlled by your settings... OE Tools | Options | Read | Fonts | Font =here All of the above assumes: 1. IE Tools | Internet Options | General | Appearance | Accessibility =nothing here is checked/enabled; and... 2. A non-Italic font is selected IE Tools | Internet Options | General | Appearance | Fonts =here. Then we have... OLEXP: The Font Size Changes When You Press ENTER in a New Message: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/232001 OLEXP: Default Font Size Is Not Applied in a New HTML E-mail Message: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/240730 OLEXP: Cannot Change Text Format Using Outlook Express: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/178895 And if STILL no joy, see if the behavior persists in a new identity: OE File | Identities | Add new identity. -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 Pete B wrote: I am using Outlook Express in IE7 as my email client. Since it was updated awhile back from a service pack, I have a problem with composing and/or reading received emails in both plain text and HTML format. I use Arial Black 12 as my text message font for RTF messages, like this message, but I am unable to get the text to display as non-italicized characters. All the text I enter appears as italics, and the toolbar I(talics) button and text formatting commands do not allow me to display anything without italics. Ecery HTML message I receive appears as italics, too, and this occurs with arial bold fonts in other styles too. Is there some reason I cannot display anything in Arial Black in standard unitalicized form: BTW I have both font styles installed for Arial Black, the standard and the Italicized. This is not a major problem, but it does annoy me because i cannot actually italicize any text deliberately and selectively, it is instead all italics. This occurs both in emails and newsgroup messages. |
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My newsgroup posting (sending) format is plain text, but my Mail sending
format is HTML. My compose font settings for both mail and news are Arial Rounded MT Bold, 10, Bold (not Bold/Italic). I have three identities already set up, all are the same. However, I use CSSs for IEx so maybe the Accessibility options are a factor, I will test it (but if that is the problem, I will have to lkive with it because I am not going to give up CSSs). What are the recommended settings for the HTML and Text send options esp. for encoding? Would that affect this? I can test that too. Also I should mention that this does not happen with all fonts. A fixed font is no problem, and even other TT fonts work OK. -- Pete B "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message ... ...I use Arial Black 12 as my text message font for RTF messages, like this message You posted here in Plain Text, not RichText/HTML. (As Bruce observes, RTF is found in OL, not OE.) Assuming you're NOT using any Stationery, when composing an email or news message *in HTML format* (only), the font is controlled by your settings... OE Tools | Options | Compose | Compose font | [Mail or News] | Font Settings =here When reading an HTML message, the font is controlled by the sender of the message When reading a Plain Text message, the font is controlled by your settings... OE Tools | Options | Read | Fonts | Font =here All of the above assumes: 1. IE Tools | Internet Options | General | Appearance | Accessibility =nothing here is checked/enabled; and... 2. A non-Italic font is selected IE Tools | Internet Options | General | Appearance | Fonts =here. Then we have... OLEXP: The Font Size Changes When You Press ENTER in a New Message: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/232001 OLEXP: Default Font Size Is Not Applied in a New HTML E-mail Message: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/240730 OLEXP: Cannot Change Text Format Using Outlook Express: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/178895 And if STILL no joy, see if the behavior persists in a new identity: OE File | Identities | Add new identity. -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 Pete B wrote: I am using Outlook Express in IE7 as my email client. Since it was updated awhile back from a service pack, I have a problem with composing and/or reading received emails in both plain text and HTML format. I use Arial Black 12 as my text message font for RTF messages, like this message, but I am unable to get the text to display as non-italicized characters. All the text I enter appears as italics, and the toolbar I(talics) button and text formatting commands do not allow me to display anything without italics. Ecery HTML message I receive appears as italics, too, and this occurs with arial bold fonts in other styles too. Is there some reason I cannot display anything in Arial Black in standard unitalicized form: BTW I have both font styles installed for Arial Black, the standard and the Italicized. This is not a major problem, but it does annoy me because i cannot actually italicize any text deliberately and selectively, it is instead all italics. This occurs both in emails and newsgroup messages. |
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If IE Tools | Internet Options | General | Appearance | Accessibility | User
style sheet | Format documents using... =this option is enabled, disable it and see if the behavior persists. If it doesn't, WYSIWYG. Pete B wrote: My newsgroup posting (sending) format is plain text, but my Mail sending format is HTML. My compose font settings for both mail and news are Arial Rounded MT Bold, 10, Bold (not Bold/Italic). I have three identities already set up, all are the same. However, I use CSSs for IEx so maybe the Accessibility options are a factor, I will test it (but if that is the problem, I will have to lkive with it because I am not going to give up CSSs). What are the recommended settings for the HTML and Text send options esp. for encoding? Would that affect this? I can test that too. Also I should mention that this does not happen with all fonts. A fixed font is no problem, and even other TT fonts work OK. "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message ... ...I use Arial Black 12 as my text message font for RTF messages, like this message You posted here in Plain Text, not RichText/HTML. (As Bruce observes, RTF is found in OL, not OE.) Assuming you're NOT using any Stationery, when composing an email or news message *in HTML format* (only), the font is controlled by your settings... OE Tools | Options | Compose | Compose font | [Mail or News] | Font Settings =here When reading an HTML message, the font is controlled by the sender of the message When reading a Plain Text message, the font is controlled by your settings... OE Tools | Options | Read | Fonts | Font =here All of the above assumes: 1. IE Tools | Internet Options | General | Appearance | Accessibility =nothing here is checked/enabled; and... 2. A non-Italic font is selected IE Tools | Internet Options | General | Appearance | Fonts =here. Then we have... OLEXP: The Font Size Changes When You Press ENTER in a New Message: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/232001 OLEXP: Default Font Size Is Not Applied in a New HTML E-mail Message: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/240730 OLEXP: Cannot Change Text Format Using Outlook Express: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/178895 And if STILL no joy, see if the behavior persists in a new identity: OE File | Identities | Add new identity. -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 Pete B wrote: I am using Outlook Express in IE7 as my email client. Since it was updated awhile back from a service pack, I have a problem with composing and/or reading received emails in both plain text and HTML format. I use Arial Black 12 as my text message font for RTF messages, like this message, but I am unable to get the text to display as non-italicized characters. All the text I enter appears as italics, and the toolbar I(talics) button and text formatting commands do not allow me to display anything without italics. Ecery HTML message I receive appears as italics, too, and this occurs with arial bold fonts in other styles too. Is there some reason I cannot display anything in Arial Black in standard unitalicized form: BTW I have both font styles installed for Arial Black, the standard and the Italicized. This is not a major problem, but it does annoy me because i cannot actually italicize any text deliberately and selectively, it is instead all italics. This occurs both in emails and newsgroup messages. |
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No luck. I turned off all Accessibility options, no change.
I think WYSIWYG is going to be the case no matter what I do unless I select a different encoding. Thanks PA Bear and all..... -- Pete B "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message ... If IE Tools | Internet Options | General | Appearance | Accessibility | User style sheet | Format documents using... =this option is enabled, disable it and see if the behavior persists. If it doesn't, WYSIWYG. Pete B wrote: My newsgroup posting (sending) format is plain text, but my Mail sending format is HTML. My compose font settings for both mail and news are Arial Rounded MT Bold, 10, Bold (not Bold/Italic). I have three identities already set up, all are the same. However, I use CSSs for IEx so maybe the Accessibility options are a factor, I will test it (but if that is the problem, I will have to lkive with it because I am not going to give up CSSs). What are the recommended settings for the HTML and Text send options esp. for encoding? Would that affect this? I can test that too. Also I should mention that this does not happen with all fonts. A fixed font is no problem, and even other TT fonts work OK. "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message ... ...I use Arial Black 12 as my text message font for RTF messages, like this message You posted here in Plain Text, not RichText/HTML. (As Bruce observes, RTF is found in OL, not OE.) Assuming you're NOT using any Stationery, when composing an email or news message *in HTML format* (only), the font is controlled by your settings... OE Tools | Options | Compose | Compose font | [Mail or News] | Font Settings =here When reading an HTML message, the font is controlled by the sender of the message When reading a Plain Text message, the font is controlled by your settings... OE Tools | Options | Read | Fonts | Font =here All of the above assumes: 1. IE Tools | Internet Options | General | Appearance | Accessibility =nothing here is checked/enabled; and... 2. A non-Italic font is selected IE Tools | Internet Options | General | Appearance | Fonts =here. Then we have... OLEXP: The Font Size Changes When You Press ENTER in a New Message: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/232001 OLEXP: Default Font Size Is Not Applied in a New HTML E-mail Message: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/240730 OLEXP: Cannot Change Text Format Using Outlook Express: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/178895 And if STILL no joy, see if the behavior persists in a new identity: OE File | Identities | Add new identity. -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 Pete B wrote: I am using Outlook Express in IE7 as my email client. Since it was updated awhile back from a service pack, I have a problem with composing and/or reading received emails in both plain text and HTML format. I use Arial Black 12 as my text message font for RTF messages, like this message, but I am unable to get the text to display as non-italicized characters. All the text I enter appears as italics, and the toolbar I(talics) button and text formatting commands do not allow me to display anything without italics. Ecery HTML message I receive appears as italics, too, and this occurs with arial bold fonts in other styles too. Is there some reason I cannot display anything in Arial Black in standard unitalicized form: BTW I have both font styles installed for Arial Black, the standard and the Italicized. This is not a major problem, but it does annoy me because i cannot actually italicize any text deliberately and selectively, it is instead all italics. This occurs both in emails and newsgroup messages. |
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What encoding have you selected?
Pete B wrote: No luck. I turned off all Accessibility options, no change. I think WYSIWYG is going to be the case no matter what I do unless I select a different encoding. Thanks PA Bear and all..... "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message ... If IE Tools | Internet Options | General | Appearance | Accessibility | User style sheet | Format documents using... =this option is enabled, disable it and see if the behavior persists. If it doesn't, WYSIWYG. Pete B wrote: My newsgroup posting (sending) format is plain text, but my Mail sending format is HTML. My compose font settings for both mail and news are Arial Rounded MT Bold, 10, Bold (not Bold/Italic). I have three identities already set up, all are the same. However, I use CSSs for IEx so maybe the Accessibility options are a factor, I will test it (but if that is the problem, I will have to lkive with it because I am not going to give up CSSs). What are the recommended settings for the HTML and Text send options esp. for encoding? Would that affect this? I can test that too. Also I should mention that this does not happen with all fonts. A fixed font is no problem, and even other TT fonts work OK. "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message ... ...I use Arial Black 12 as my text message font for RTF messages, like this message You posted here in Plain Text, not RichText/HTML. (As Bruce observes, RTF is found in OL, not OE.) Assuming you're NOT using any Stationery, when composing an email or news message *in HTML format* (only), the font is controlled by your settings... OE Tools | Options | Compose | Compose font | [Mail or News] | Font Settings =here When reading an HTML message, the font is controlled by the sender of the message When reading a Plain Text message, the font is controlled by your settings... OE Tools | Options | Read | Fonts | Font =here All of the above assumes: 1. IE Tools | Internet Options | General | Appearance | Accessibility =nothing here is checked/enabled; and... 2. A non-Italic font is selected IE Tools | Internet Options | General | Appearance | Fonts =here. Then we have... OLEXP: The Font Size Changes When You Press ENTER in a New Message: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/232001 OLEXP: Default Font Size Is Not Applied in a New HTML E-mail Message: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/240730 OLEXP: Cannot Change Text Format Using Outlook Express: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/178895 And if STILL no joy, see if the behavior persists in a new identity: OE File | Identities | Add new identity. -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 Pete B wrote: I am using Outlook Express in IE7 as my email client. Since it was updated awhile back from a service pack, I have a problem with composing and/or reading received emails in both plain text and HTML format. I use Arial Black 12 as my text message font for RTF messages, like this message, but I am unable to get the text to display as non-italicized characters. All the text I enter appears as italics, and the toolbar I(talics) button and text formatting commands do not allow me to display anything without italics. Ecery HTML message I receive appears as italics, too, and this occurs with arial bold fonts in other styles too. Is there some reason I cannot display anything in Arial Black in standard unitalicized form: BTW I have both font styles installed for Arial Black, the standard and the Italicized. This is not a major problem, but it does annoy me because i cannot actually italicize any text deliberately and selectively, it is instead all italics. This occurs both in emails and newsgroup messages. |
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Just FYI all: the problem was apparently specific to the font I was using to read messages, Arial Black. Once I changed font the problem went away. I like Arial Black but not that much. I am now using Incised 901 Bd BT for everything. I like the looks. -- Pete B "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message ... If IE Tools | Internet Options | General | Appearance | Accessibility | User style sheet | Format documents using... =this option is enabled, disable it and see if the behavior persists. If it doesn't, WYSIWYG. Pete B wrote: My newsgroup posting (sending) format is plain text, but my Mail sending format is HTML. My compose font settings for both mail and news are Arial Rounded MT Bold, 10, Bold (not Bold/Italic). I have three identities already set up, all are the same. However, I use CSSs for IEx so maybe the Accessibility options are a factor, I will test it (but if that is the problem, I will have to lkive with it because I am not going to give up CSSs). What are the recommended settings for the HTML and Text send options esp. for encoding? Would that affect this? I can test that too. Also I should mention that this does not happen with all fonts. A fixed font is no problem, and even other TT fonts work OK. "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message ... ...I use Arial Black 12 as my text message font for RTF messages, like this message You posted here in Plain Text, not RichText/HTML. (As Bruce observes, RTF is found in OL, not OE.) Assuming you're NOT using any Stationery, when composing an email or news message *in HTML format* (only), the font is controlled by your settings... OE Tools | Options | Compose | Compose font | [Mail or News] | Font Settings =here When reading an HTML message, the font is controlled by the sender of the message When reading a Plain Text message, the font is controlled by your settings... OE Tools | Options | Read | Fonts | Font =here All of the above assumes: 1. IE Tools | Internet Options | General | Appearance | Accessibility =nothing here is checked/enabled; and... 2. A non-Italic font is selected IE Tools | Internet Options | General | Appearance | Fonts =here. Then we have... OLEXP: The Font Size Changes When You Press ENTER in a New Message: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/232001 OLEXP: Default Font Size Is Not Applied in a New HTML E-mail Message: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/240730 OLEXP: Cannot Change Text Format Using Outlook Express: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/178895 And if STILL no joy, see if the behavior persists in a new identity: OE File | Identities | Add new identity. -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 Pete B wrote: I am using Outlook Express in IE7 as my email client. Since it was updated awhile back from a service pack, I have a problem with composing and/or reading received emails in both plain text and HTML format. I use Arial Black 12 as my text message font for RTF messages, like this message, but I am unable to get the text to display as non-italicized characters. All the text I enter appears as italics, and the toolbar I(talics) button and text formatting commands do not allow me to display anything without italics. Ecery HTML message I receive appears as italics, too, and this occurs with arial bold fonts in other styles too. Is there some reason I cannot display anything in Arial Black in standard unitalicized form: BTW I have both font styles installed for Arial Black, the standard and the Italicized. This is not a major problem, but it does annoy me because i cannot actually italicize any text deliberately and selectively, it is instead all italics. This occurs both in emails and newsgroup messages. |
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