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XP vs Windows 7
Hi,
This isn't a specific Excel question But..., I currently own Office Professional XP. I have to buy a new machine that will have Windows 7 as the OS. Will I still be able to install my software on this new machine w/o any issues? Or will I be forced to buy a newer version? Thanks Tom |
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XP vs Windows 7
"Tom" wrote
I currently own Office Professional XP. I have to buy a new machine that will have Windows 7 as the OS. Will I still be able to install my software on this new machine w/o any issues? Or will I be forced to buy a newer version? Excel(lent) question! ;-) I rue the day when I will junk my old WinXP computers and the replacements will force me to go Windows 7 or the version du jour. If you do not get a satisfactory answer here (but I suspect you might), I would suggest that repost to microsoft.public.office.misc, and perhaps crosspost (not multipost) to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general. (I don't see any NG for Win7 per se. But I think the same question/answer would apply to Vista.) |
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Tom -
On a Windows 7 32-bit installation and on a separate Windows 7 64-bit installation, I have the following Excel components installed: 97, 2000, 2002 (XP) SP3, 2003 SP3, 2007 SP2, and 2010 Beta. - Mike http://www.MikeMiddleton.com "Tom" wrote in message ... Hi, This isn't a specific Excel question But..., I currently own Office Professional XP. I have to buy a new machine that will have Windows 7 as the OS. Will I still be able to install my software on this new machine w/o any issues? Or will I be forced to buy a newer version? Thanks Tom |
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"Mike Middleton" wrote:
On a Windows 7 32-bit installation and on a separate Windows 7 64-bit installation, I have the following Excel components installed: 97, 2000, 2002 (XP) SP3, 2003 SP3, 2007 SP2, and 2010 Beta. Wunnerful that they can all coexist! But I'm a little surprised. I thought I asked somewhere some time ago, and I was told that multiple versions of Excel (maybe Office) share some common files, potentially resulting in some incompatibilities. If true, did you have to pull some shenanigans to overcome that problem? Or was I simply misinformed, or do I recall incorrectly? ----- original message ----- "Mike Middleton" wrote in message ... Tom - On a Windows 7 32-bit installation and on a separate Windows 7 64-bit installation, I have the following Excel components installed: 97, 2000, 2002 (XP) SP3, 2003 SP3, 2007 SP2, and 2010 Beta. - Mike http://www.MikeMiddleton.com "Tom" wrote in message ... Hi, This isn't a specific Excel question But..., I currently own Office Professional XP. I have to buy a new machine that will have Windows 7 as the OS. Will I still be able to install my software on this new machine w/o any issues? Or will I be forced to buy a newer version? Thanks Tom |
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XP vs Windows 7
You will absolutely NOT have to upgrade Office just because of Windows 7.
Office XP (also known as Office 2002) will run just fine on Vista and/or Windows 7. I have Office 2003 running on a Vista Ultimate and on a Windows 7 Ultimate system(s) and the OS are even 64-bit versions. Runs just fine. And with the higher-end versions of Windows 7 you get the added safety-net of the "XP Mode". XP Mode is available (as a separate download/setup) with Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise or Ultimate. It also requires hardware that supports virtualization (and most new machines do, but they have a test to check for certain). Once the XP mode is installed, it is available as a "virtual machine" within Windows 7 running Windows XP, and no extra license required for it. And finally, as the mattress under the safety net, there are always options such as Microsofts Virtual PC or VMWare Player that allow you to create virtual machines and install pretty much any (licensed) copy of an Operating System you want into them and run software compatible with that OS within the VM. How 'crazy' can it get? My Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit version is set up with an XP Mode virtual machine, and over on the Vista Ultimate 64, I have VMWare Player with another copy of Windows 7 Ultimate 64 running in which I have been using the Beta version of Office 2010, 64-bit! "Tom" wrote: Hi, This isn't a specific Excel question But..., I currently own Office Professional XP. I have to buy a new machine that will have Windows 7 as the OS. Will I still be able to install my software on this new machine w/o any issues? Or will I be forced to buy a newer version? Thanks Tom . |
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XP vs Windows 7
Joe User -
My initial description was not totally complete: As I recall, on Windows 7 64-bit, if you want Excel 2010 Beta 64-bit, it cannot coexist with the older 32-bit versions of Excel. I now do most of my work on Windows 7 64-bit with all those versions of Excel but specifically with Excel 2010 Beta 32-bit (which can coexist with the older versions of Excel). On the same computer, I use VMware Workstation for several other operating systems. I have separate virtual machines running Windows XP and Windows Vista. Also, I have another virtual machine running Windows 7 64-bit with Excel 2010 Beta 64-bit (but without any older versions of Excel). - Mike "Joe User" joeu2004 wrote in message ... "Mike Middleton" wrote: On a Windows 7 32-bit installation and on a separate Windows 7 64-bit installation, I have the following Excel components installed: 97, 2000, 2002 (XP) SP3, 2003 SP3, 2007 SP2, and 2010 Beta. Wunnerful that they can all coexist! But I'm a little surprised. I thought I asked somewhere some time ago, and I was told that multiple versions of Excel (maybe Office) share some common files, potentially resulting in some incompatibilities. If true, did you have to pull some shenanigans to overcome that problem? Or was I simply misinformed, or do I recall incorrectly? ----- original message ----- "Mike Middleton" wrote in message ... Tom - On a Windows 7 32-bit installation and on a separate Windows 7 64-bit installation, I have the following Excel components installed: 97, 2000, 2002 (XP) SP3, 2003 SP3, 2007 SP2, and 2010 Beta. - Mike http://www.MikeMiddleton.com "Tom" wrote in message ... Hi, This isn't a specific Excel question But..., I currently own Office Professional XP. I have to buy a new machine that will have Windows 7 as the OS. Will I still be able to install my software on this new machine w/o any issues? Or will I be forced to buy a newer version? Thanks Tom |
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"Mike Middleton" wrote: Joe User - My initial description was not totally complete: As I recall, on Windows 7 64-bit, if you want Excel 2010 Beta 64-bit, it cannot coexist with the older 32-bit versions of Excel. I now do most of my work on Windows 7 64-bit with all those versions of Excel but specifically with Excel 2010 Beta 32-bit (which can coexist with the older versions of Excel). On the same computer, I use VMware Workstation for several other operating systems. I have separate virtual machines running Windows XP and Windows Vista. Also, I have another virtual machine running Windows 7 64-bit with Excel 2010 Beta 64-bit (but without any older versions of Excel). - Mike "Joe User" joeu2004 wrote in message ... "Mike Middleton" wrote: On a Windows 7 32-bit installation and on a separate Windows 7 64-bit installation, I have the following Excel components installed: 97, 2000, 2002 (XP) SP3, 2003 SP3, 2007 SP2, and 2010 Beta. Wunnerful that they can all coexist! But I'm a little surprised. I thought I asked somewhere some time ago, and I was told that multiple versions of Excel (maybe Office) share some common files, potentially resulting in some incompatibilities. If true, did you have to pull some shenanigans to overcome that problem? Or was I simply misinformed, or do I recall incorrectly? ----- original message ----- "Mike Middleton" wrote in message ... Tom - On a Windows 7 32-bit installation and on a separate Windows 7 64-bit installation, I have the following Excel components installed: 97, 2000, 2002 (XP) SP3, 2003 SP3, 2007 SP2, and 2010 Beta. - Mike http://www.MikeMiddleton.com "Tom" wrote in message ... Hi, This isn't a specific Excel question But..., I currently own Office Professional XP. I have to buy a new machine that will have Windows 7 as the OS. Will I still be able to install my software on this new machine w/o any issues? Or will I be forced to buy a newer version? Thanks Tom . |
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This is all terribly off-topic, but I am intensely curious about the
details. So I hope people will indulge (or simply ignore) our conversation. Alternatively, we can take it off-line. Write to joeu2004 "at" hotmail.com. "Mike Middleton" wrote: On the same computer, I use VMware Workstation for several other operating systems. I have separate virtual machines running Windows XP and Windows Vista. Thanks for the pointer to VMware Workstation. I believe there are several such products out there. Always good to hear from someone with first-hand experience with one of them. Kinda like choosing a new doctor. (Which I desparately need to do. Bad that's another digression ;-.) How do you like VMware Workstation? Can the VMs share files? If not, is there a provision for copying files from one VM to another without relying on an external device? (I ass-u-me you can always copy a file in one VM to a USB memory stick, then read the file from memory stick in another VM.) Can you run multiple VMs at the same time? Or do you have to reboot the computer each time you want to switch between VMs? Is there a good newsgroup for __thoughtful__ discussion of different VM products and VM usage in general? By "thoughtful", I mean the opposite of "mine, mine, mine!". If you've ever been in a "discussion" (I use the term advisedly) of vi v. emacs, ksh v. csh v. perl, C v. C++, or Intel PC v. Mac, you'll know what I mean ;-). I have been procrastinating the move to VMs for a very long time. I really should get serious about it. With disk capacities these days, there is no reason not to -- at least, none that I can think of. (Okay: laziness. Moi?!) (Hmm, I can remember when I was thrilled to get a removable single-platter 5 Mbyte disk. It was the size of an extra large pizza box, and it weighed nearly 10 pounds. But it could hold the entire O/S and basic applications, and it still had room for some of my files. "An O/S smaller than 5MB? Get outta town!" ;-) ----- original message ----- "Mike Middleton" wrote in message ... Joe User - My initial description was not totally complete: As I recall, on Windows 7 64-bit, if you want Excel 2010 Beta 64-bit, it cannot coexist with the older 32-bit versions of Excel. I now do most of my work on Windows 7 64-bit with all those versions of Excel but specifically with Excel 2010 Beta 32-bit (which can coexist with the older versions of Excel). On the same computer, I use VMware Workstation for several other operating systems. I have separate virtual machines running Windows XP and Windows Vista. Also, I have another virtual machine running Windows 7 64-bit with Excel 2010 Beta 64-bit (but without any older versions of Excel). - Mike "Joe User" joeu2004 wrote in message ... "Mike Middleton" wrote: On a Windows 7 32-bit installation and on a separate Windows 7 64-bit installation, I have the following Excel components installed: 97, 2000, 2002 (XP) SP3, 2003 SP3, 2007 SP2, and 2010 Beta. Wunnerful that they can all coexist! But I'm a little surprised. I thought I asked somewhere some time ago, and I was told that multiple versions of Excel (maybe Office) share some common files, potentially resulting in some incompatibilities. If true, did you have to pull some shenanigans to overcome that problem? Or was I simply misinformed, or do I recall incorrectly? ----- original message ----- "Mike Middleton" wrote in message ... Tom - On a Windows 7 32-bit installation and on a separate Windows 7 64-bit installation, I have the following Excel components installed: 97, 2000, 2002 (XP) SP3, 2003 SP3, 2007 SP2, and 2010 Beta. - Mike http://www.MikeMiddleton.com "Tom" wrote in message ... Hi, This isn't a specific Excel question But..., I currently own Office Professional XP. I have to buy a new machine that will have Windows 7 as the OS. Will I still be able to install my software on this new machine w/o any issues? Or will I be forced to buy a newer version? Thanks Tom |
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XP vs Windows 7
Joe User -
I'm just starting to use VMware Workstation, so I haven't explored all of its features, but here are some preliminary replies to your questions. How do you like VMware Workstation? I like it very much. It's amazing software. Can the VMs share files? If not, is there a provision for copying files from one VM to another without relying on an external device? You can Drag & Drop between the host and guests (the VMs) or between guests. It's a Copy, not a Cut. Or, you can use a shared folder. A smart card reader can be attached to multiple machines (unlike USB). ... you can always copy a file in one VM to a USB memory stick, then read the file from memory stick in another VM. A USB device can be connected to one machine at a time. Switching requires two or three mouse clicks. Can you run multiple VMs at the same time? Or do you have to reboot the computer each time you want to switch between VMs? Several VMs can run at the same time, and you click a window tab to switch from one to another. No rebooting is required. Is there a good newsgroup for __thoughtful__ discussion of different VM products and VM usage in general? I don't know. I had used VMware Fusion on a Mac. I looked at a brief discussion of VM products on the Association of Software Professionals newsgroup. At the time it seemed that only VMware Workstation was (a) mature enough to support Windows Aero and (b) able to support multiple monitors for one VM or multiple monitors for multiple VMs. I haven't used these features yet, but they're important to me, because when I'm not traveling, I work at two locations, each with docking stations with dual monitors. My main computer now is a dockable 3.3-pound Dell E4300 (2.53 GHz, 4 GB RAM, 256 GB SSD). I'm disposing of several noisy desktop machines as soon as I offload some archive files. - Mike "Joe User" joeu2004 wrote in message ... This is all terribly off-topic, but I am intensely curious about the details. So I hope people will indulge (or simply ignore) our conversation. Alternatively, we can take it off-line. Write to joeu2004 "at" hotmail.com. "Mike Middleton" wrote: On the same computer, I use VMware Workstation for several other operating systems. I have separate virtual machines running Windows XP and Windows Vista. Thanks for the pointer to VMware Workstation. I believe there are several such products out there. Always good to hear from someone with first-hand experience with one of them. Kinda like choosing a new doctor. (Which I desparately need to do. Bad that's another digression ;-.) How do you like VMware Workstation? Can the VMs share files? If not, is there a provision for copying files from one VM to another without relying on an external device? (I ass-u-me you can always copy a file in one VM to a USB memory stick, then read the file from memory stick in another VM.) Can you run multiple VMs at the same time? Or do you have to reboot the computer each time you want to switch between VMs? Is there a good newsgroup for __thoughtful__ discussion of different VM products and VM usage in general? By "thoughtful", I mean the opposite of "mine, mine, mine!". If you've ever been in a "discussion" (I use the term advisedly) of vi v. emacs, ksh v. csh v. perl, C v. C++, or Intel PC v. Mac, you'll know what I mean ;-). I have been procrastinating the move to VMs for a very long time. I really should get serious about it. With disk capacities these days, there is no reason not to -- at least, none that I can think of. (Okay: laziness. Moi?!) (Hmm, I can remember when I was thrilled to get a removable single-platter 5 Mbyte disk. It was the size of an extra large pizza box, and it weighed nearly 10 pounds. But it could hold the entire O/S and basic applications, and it still had room for some of my files. "An O/S smaller than 5MB? Get outta town!" ;-) ----- original message ----- "Mike Middleton" wrote in message ... Joe User - My initial description was not totally complete: As I recall, on Windows 7 64-bit, if you want Excel 2010 Beta 64-bit, it cannot coexist with the older 32-bit versions of Excel. I now do most of my work on Windows 7 64-bit with all those versions of Excel but specifically with Excel 2010 Beta 32-bit (which can coexist with the older versions of Excel). On the same computer, I use VMware Workstation for several other operating systems. I have separate virtual machines running Windows XP and Windows Vista. Also, I have another virtual machine running Windows 7 64-bit with Excel 2010 Beta 64-bit (but without any older versions of Excel). - Mike "Joe User" joeu2004 wrote in message ... "Mike Middleton" wrote: On a Windows 7 32-bit installation and on a separate Windows 7 64-bit installation, I have the following Excel components installed: 97, 2000, 2002 (XP) SP3, 2003 SP3, 2007 SP2, and 2010 Beta. Wunnerful that they can all coexist! But I'm a little surprised. I thought I asked somewhere some time ago, and I was told that multiple versions of Excel (maybe Office) share some common files, potentially resulting in some incompatibilities. If true, did you have to pull some shenanigans to overcome that problem? Or was I simply misinformed, or do I recall incorrectly? ----- original message ----- "Mike Middleton" wrote in message ... Tom - On a Windows 7 32-bit installation and on a separate Windows 7 64-bit installation, I have the following Excel components installed: 97, 2000, 2002 (XP) SP3, 2003 SP3, 2007 SP2, and 2010 Beta. - Mike http://www.MikeMiddleton.com "Tom" wrote in message ... Hi, This isn't a specific Excel question But..., I currently own Office Professional XP. I have to buy a new machine that will have Windows 7 as the OS. Will I still be able to install my software on this new machine w/o any issues? Or will I be forced to buy a newer version? Thanks Tom |
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XP vs Windows 7
Thanks for info.
----- original message ----- "Mike Middleton" wrote in message ... Joe User - I'm just starting to use VMware Workstation, so I haven't explored all of its features, but here are some preliminary replies to your questions. How do you like VMware Workstation? I like it very much. It's amazing software. Can the VMs share files? If not, is there a provision for copying files from one VM to another without relying on an external device? You can Drag & Drop between the host and guests (the VMs) or between guests. It's a Copy, not a Cut. Or, you can use a shared folder. A smart card reader can be attached to multiple machines (unlike USB). ... you can always copy a file in one VM to a USB memory stick, then read the file from memory stick in another VM. A USB device can be connected to one machine at a time. Switching requires two or three mouse clicks. Can you run multiple VMs at the same time? Or do you have to reboot the computer each time you want to switch between VMs? Several VMs can run at the same time, and you click a window tab to switch from one to another. No rebooting is required. Is there a good newsgroup for __thoughtful__ discussion of different VM products and VM usage in general? I don't know. I had used VMware Fusion on a Mac. I looked at a brief discussion of VM products on the Association of Software Professionals newsgroup. At the time it seemed that only VMware Workstation was (a) mature enough to support Windows Aero and (b) able to support multiple monitors for one VM or multiple monitors for multiple VMs. I haven't used these features yet, but they're important to me, because when I'm not traveling, I work at two locations, each with docking stations with dual monitors. My main computer now is a dockable 3.3-pound Dell E4300 (2.53 GHz, 4 GB RAM, 256 GB SSD). I'm disposing of several noisy desktop machines as soon as I offload some archive files. - Mike "Joe User" joeu2004 wrote in message ... This is all terribly off-topic, but I am intensely curious about the details. So I hope people will indulge (or simply ignore) our conversation. Alternatively, we can take it off-line. Write to joeu2004 "at" hotmail.com. "Mike Middleton" wrote: On the same computer, I use VMware Workstation for several other operating systems. I have separate virtual machines running Windows XP and Windows Vista. Thanks for the pointer to VMware Workstation. I believe there are several such products out there. Always good to hear from someone with first-hand experience with one of them. Kinda like choosing a new doctor. (Which I desparately need to do. Bad that's another digression ;-.) How do you like VMware Workstation? Can the VMs share files? If not, is there a provision for copying files from one VM to another without relying on an external device? (I ass-u-me you can always copy a file in one VM to a USB memory stick, then read the file from memory stick in another VM.) Can you run multiple VMs at the same time? Or do you have to reboot the computer each time you want to switch between VMs? Is there a good newsgroup for __thoughtful__ discussion of different VM products and VM usage in general? By "thoughtful", I mean the opposite of "mine, mine, mine!". If you've ever been in a "discussion" (I use the term advisedly) of vi v. emacs, ksh v. csh v. perl, C v. C++, or Intel PC v. Mac, you'll know what I mean ;-). I have been procrastinating the move to VMs for a very long time. I really should get serious about it. With disk capacities these days, there is no reason not to -- at least, none that I can think of. (Okay: laziness. Moi?!) (Hmm, I can remember when I was thrilled to get a removable single-platter 5 Mbyte disk. It was the size of an extra large pizza box, and it weighed nearly 10 pounds. But it could hold the entire O/S and basic applications, and it still had room for some of my files. "An O/S smaller than 5MB? Get outta town!" ;-) ----- original message ----- "Mike Middleton" wrote in message ... Joe User - My initial description was not totally complete: As I recall, on Windows 7 64-bit, if you want Excel 2010 Beta 64-bit, it cannot coexist with the older 32-bit versions of Excel. I now do most of my work on Windows 7 64-bit with all those versions of Excel but specifically with Excel 2010 Beta 32-bit (which can coexist with the older versions of Excel). On the same computer, I use VMware Workstation for several other operating systems. I have separate virtual machines running Windows XP and Windows Vista. Also, I have another virtual machine running Windows 7 64-bit with Excel 2010 Beta 64-bit (but without any older versions of Excel). - Mike "Joe User" joeu2004 wrote in message ... "Mike Middleton" wrote: On a Windows 7 32-bit installation and on a separate Windows 7 64-bit installation, I have the following Excel components installed: 97, 2000, 2002 (XP) SP3, 2003 SP3, 2007 SP2, and 2010 Beta. Wunnerful that they can all coexist! But I'm a little surprised. I thought I asked somewhere some time ago, and I was told that multiple versions of Excel (maybe Office) share some common files, potentially resulting in some incompatibilities. If true, did you have to pull some shenanigans to overcome that problem? Or was I simply misinformed, or do I recall incorrectly? ----- original message ----- "Mike Middleton" wrote in message ... Tom - On a Windows 7 32-bit installation and on a separate Windows 7 64-bit installation, I have the following Excel components installed: 97, 2000, 2002 (XP) SP3, 2003 SP3, 2007 SP2, and 2010 Beta. - Mike http://www.MikeMiddleton.com "Tom" wrote in message ... Hi, This isn't a specific Excel question But..., I currently own Office Professional XP. I have to buy a new machine that will have Windows 7 as the OS. Will I still be able to install my software on this new machine w/o any issues? Or will I be forced to buy a newer version? Thanks Tom |
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