Word 2007 is "More intuitive??"

Glad you are pleased. The Condense 0.1 pt. was one of the buttons I was most
panicked about losing in Word 2007; thank heavens for Graham's instructions
on how to import custom toolbars! Now if MS would just give us a way to add
those custom buttons directly to the QAT...

One custom button I didn't include was one to run the TableCellHelper macro
(I figured including the macro would complicate matters). For it I had used
the question mark icon that's included in the limited set you get when you
choose Change Button Image. In Word 2007, rather confusingly, this is
rendered as the white question mark in a blue circle that is also used for
the Help button.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"DeanH" wrote in message
...
All done, the condense 0.1pt is an added bonus, many thanks.
All the best to you and yours.
DeanH

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Okay, I've posted a template at
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/CustomToolbar.dot. Note that when you
click on this URL and get the usual Save or Open dialog, the file will be
named CustomToolbar.doc and will want to be saved as a Word document. If
you
save the file as a document, I suspect it will still act like a template,
and I've confirmed that if you change the extension to .dot before
saving,
it will look like and behave like a template. Since you want to open the
file for editing, anyway, perhaps saving as a .doc is the right thing to
do.

If you like (and IE will let you), you can open it first and read it,
then
save as desired.

Eventually I'll get around to putting up a Web page explaining all this
and
providing a link to the template, but for now at least the custom buttons
are in the template.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"DeanH" wrote in message
...
That is the website I was alluding to with "your website" and not one
of
the
multitude of other sites you are connected to.
Greatly appreciated.
Thanks again
DeanH


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Yes, I'll post them somewhere at my WordFAQs site. The hard part is
remembering to do it! I'll put that on my To Do list for today so I
won't
forget.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"DeanH" wrote in message
...
Many thanks.
Would somewhere on your website be best?
Look forward, as always, to hearing from you.
DeanH

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

I copied him by email, and he gave his permission for me to share.
I'll
figure out a way to do it and let you know where they can be found.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"DeanH" wrote in message
...
Thanks for that Ms Barnhill.
Lets hope Mr Franz reads this and is agreeable.
I have always had KWN and KLT on my toolbar and use them
constantly.
As
you
say the toogle effect is very handy. Unfortunately I have them as
Text
buttons and a nice little icon or two would be very handy, even
only
to
save
toolbar space.
Best regards
DeanH

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Bob either sent them to me privately or posted them in a private
binaries
forum--I forget which. It's possible he could be persuaded to
share
them
more generally. I'll warn you, though: his have some purple (or
at
least
magenta) in them--rather gaudy; I changed the color to red. g

These are among the half-dozen or so custom buttons I moved to
Word
2007
as
part of a custom toolbar. They're one click less accessible from
the
QAT
but
still better than having to open a dialog.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"DeanH" wrote in message
...
"buttons for "Keep with next" and "Keep lines together" (and
thanks,
Robert
Franz for the attractive button icons)."

Hi Ms Barnhill, in the previous posting you mentioned the
above.
Where
can
I
get these icons or are they a closely guarded secret? ;-)
I have searched Mr Franz's website (Scientific guide) but
cannot
find
such
icons.

Many thanks in advance
DeanH

Being a relative power user of Word myself, I am like a lot of others that
find 2007 quite difficult to use as I have trouble finding anything in it.
Only last night, I was asked by a neighbour to help her out with some issues
she was having doing relatively simple things with Word 2007. Although I
managed to help her out, it was a struggle.

Admittedly, I have hardly used 2007 at all, so this could be why I had
trouble finding things. The point here is that my neighbour has not really
used any of the other versions of Word much and found 2007 very difficult to
use. To call it intuitive is therefore wrong.

Although by the end of the session, I was starting to get to grips with it a
bit better, I was not impressed at all. I shall be sticking with 2003 for as
long as possible.

For instance, to spend such a long time to find the print preview and giving
up is not a good sign.

Martin


"Bob Buckland ?:-)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com wrote
in message ...
Hi Terry,

To an extent I agree, for support folks and corporate types who locked
down everything anyway, for many users the Ribbon is 'more
predictable' and they probably don't see that anything has been lost. In
too many companies the 'show menus after a short delay')
is what folks live with after each log in when they're in prior versions.
That was pretty much taken away.

As to customizing the ribbon, it's true that there there isn't the drag
and drop UI built in, but customizing the ribbon via the
RibbonX tools and 'language' to rearrange everything is probably not any
higher degree of difficulty than it would be to write a
macro in VBA (in fact it's easier for me to follow the outline structure
of the RibbonX g), but surprisingly very few folks seem
to have jumped into that. There is even at least one MS tool, although
it's not a WYSIWYG one

What is 'fun' is to start Word in Safe Mode (hold ctrl key when starting
for those reading who may not be familiar with it) and
seeing the 'regular' ribbon if you have customized positions g. Then you
can really get confused.

Over time, I've noted that there is a definite pause now when I start a
prior version and go looking for things as the 'muscle
memory' now 'fights' to want to go to the Word 2007 places as first choice
when using the mouse g.

============
"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...
I don't think anyone will argue that the transition is far more difficult
than previous versions. It does get better the more familiar you become
but
I am convinced that it is NOT easier or more intuitive to use than
previous
versions. However, this may be because I have been a Word user since Word
2
which is making me prejudiced against this major interface change.

The way I see this is that the old interface was like the steering wheel
of
a car: it is intuitive and works well for everyone whether you are an old
granny out shopping or an F1 ace winning the Monaco Grand Prix. A joy
stick
or a drive-by-wire touch pad would be a disaster for the majority of
normal
drivers. I think of the ribbon as the latter.

Given a 'once and for all' choice between Office 2003 and Office 2007, I
have no doubts that I would choose the former because I am concerned that
the developers will not resolve the gaping holes they have made of the
latter's interface implementation.

Yes, I like the look and idea of the Ribbon, but I don't like the choice
of
tools that have been added in each group. As far as I am concerned, until
a
user is able to change the layout and tools on the ribbons and create a
custom ribbon straight out of the box without need for third party tools,
it
is a failure. To me the QAT is just a last minute panic measure to
overcome
the inflexibilities of the Ribbons.
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

I don't think "intuitive" was exactly what MS was shooting for. The term the
developers kept using was "discoverable." The problem with the old menu
structure (especially adaptive menus) was that there were so many commands
and features that users never discovered (if you read these NGs regularly,
you'll be amazed at the number of questions about the very existence of a
way to produce, say, footnotes). The idea here was to make everything
in-your-face. The other premise of the design (which I think we later
demonstrated was based on incorrectly interpreted CEIP data*) was that some
hugely high percentage of users never customize anything in the UI. MS
concluded that consistency was a desirable goal: that everything should
always be in the same place--for all users. This theoretically makes support
easier because you can confidently assume that every user has the same
buttons in the same groups on the same tabs all the time.

I agree that making Print Preview so hard to get to was a step backward.
That was one of the first buttons I added to my QAT. I also am still
primarily using Word 2003, dipping into 2007 only to attempt to answer
users' questions and to try to update my WordFAQs articles. So I also do a
lot of wandering around looking for things. I'm sure the placement of
features was carefully thought out (and even agonized over), and it is
certainly more logical than the "junk drawer" that the Tools menu had
become, but it is definitely a huge paradigm shift.

*CEIP in Word 2003 reported users' use of commands. I'm not sure it
distinguished between clicking buttons and using keyboard shortcuts, hence
the continued prominence of the Cut, Copy, and Paste buttons. But the main
problem was that a customization was reported, if at all, only once (when
the user added a button or menu item). If a user started using Word 2003
with customized toolbars and menus inherited from an earlier version, no
customization was reported at all. AIUI, there was no way to reflect that,
every time a user used a certain command, it was via an added toolbar button
rather than by going through a dialog or choosing from a menu, or that the
user had created a custom menu or toolbar or whatever. While I am quite
willing to believe that most users *don't* customize, and it is also perhaps
true that the users who customize most may well have declined to participate
in CEIP, I also believe that customization (including that done by means of
custom templates) was vastly underreported.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"Martin C" wrote in message
...
Being a relative power user of Word myself, I am like a lot of others that
find 2007 quite difficult to use as I have trouble finding anything in it.
Only last night, I was asked by a neighbour to help her out with some
issues she was having doing relatively simple things with Word 2007.
Although I managed to help her out, it was a struggle.

Admittedly, I have hardly used 2007 at all, so this could be why I had
trouble finding things. The point here is that my neighbour has not really
used any of the other versions of Word much and found 2007 very difficult
to use. To call it intuitive is therefore wrong.

Although by the end of the session, I was starting to get to grips with it
a bit better, I was not impressed at all. I shall be sticking with 2003
for as long as possible.

For instance, to spend such a long time to find the print preview and
giving up is not a good sign.

Martin


"Bob Buckland ?:-)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com wrote
in message ...
Hi Terry,

To an extent I agree, for support folks and corporate types who locked
down everything anyway, for many users the Ribbon is 'more
predictable' and they probably don't see that anything has been lost. In
too many companies the 'show menus after a short delay')
is what folks live with after each log in when they're in prior versions.
That was pretty much taken away.

As to customizing the ribbon, it's true that there there isn't the drag
and drop UI built in, but customizing the ribbon via the
RibbonX tools and 'language' to rearrange everything is probably not any
higher degree of difficulty than it would be to write a
macro in VBA (in fact it's easier for me to follow the outline structure
of the RibbonX g), but surprisingly very few folks seem
to have jumped into that. There is even at least one MS tool, although
it's not a WYSIWYG one

What is 'fun' is to start Word in Safe Mode (hold ctrl key when starting
for those reading who may not be familiar with it) and
seeing the 'regular' ribbon if you have customized positions g. Then
you can really get confused.

Over time, I've noted that there is a definite pause now when I start a
prior version and go looking for things as the 'muscle
memory' now 'fights' to want to go to the Word 2007 places as first
choice when using the mouse g.

============
"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...
I don't think anyone will argue that the transition is far more difficult
than previous versions. It does get better the more familiar you become
but
I am convinced that it is NOT easier or more intuitive to use than
previous
versions. However, this may be because I have been a Word user since Word
2
which is making me prejudiced against this major interface change.

The way I see this is that the old interface was like the steering wheel
of
a car: it is intuitive and works well for everyone whether you are an old
granny out shopping or an F1 ace winning the Monaco Grand Prix. A joy
stick
or a drive-by-wire touch pad would be a disaster for the majority of
normal
drivers. I think of the ribbon as the latter.

Given a 'once and for all' choice between Office 2003 and Office 2007, I
have no doubts that I would choose the former because I am concerned that
the developers will not resolve the gaping holes they have made of the
latter's interface implementation.

Yes, I like the look and idea of the Ribbon, but I don't like the choice
of
tools that have been added in each group. As far as I am concerned, until
a
user is able to change the layout and tools on the ribbons and create a
custom ribbon straight out of the box without need for third party tools,
it
is a failure. To me the QAT is just a last minute panic measure to
overcome
the inflexibilities of the Ribbons.
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

Hi Martin - I understand where you're coming from, but it does get better
with exposure - like building up calluses:-) If you haven't discovered them
already these are a few things that have helped for me:

1- Get familiar with the Word Options Customize capabilities & take
advantage of the Quick Access Toolbar,

2- Look for the Dialog Launchers (little square buttons at the right end of
the title bar of some of the Groups on each tab of the Ribbon). In most
cases they take you into familiar "Classic" dialogs or provide Task Panes,

3- Get in the habit of using Contextual (Right-Click) menus if you don't
already do so. They seem to do a much better job of consolidating related
features which would otherwise have to be found on various Ribbon tabs.

4- And, of course, climb into the Wayback Machine to revisit the use of
keyboard shortcuts for as much as your memory will support:-)

Regards |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 6/13/08 9:47 AM, in article , "Martin
C" wrote:

Being a relative power user of Word myself, I am like a lot of others that
find 2007 quite difficult to use as I have trouble finding anything in it.
Only last night, I was asked by a neighbour to help her out with some issues
she was having doing relatively simple things with Word 2007. Although I
managed to help her out, it was a struggle.

Admittedly, I have hardly used 2007 at all, so this could be why I had
trouble finding things. The point here is that my neighbour has not really
used any of the other versions of Word much and found 2007 very difficult to
use. To call it intuitive is therefore wrong.

Although by the end of the session, I was starting to get to grips with it a
bit better, I was not impressed at all. I shall be sticking with 2003 for as
long as possible.

For instance, to spend such a long time to find the print preview and giving
up is not a good sign.

Martin


"Bob Buckland ?:-)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com wrote
in message ...
Hi Terry,

To an extent I agree, for support folks and corporate types who locked
down everything anyway, for many users the Ribbon is 'more
predictable' and they probably don't see that anything has been lost. In
too many companies the 'show menus after a short delay')
is what folks live with after each log in when they're in prior versions.
That was pretty much taken away.

As to customizing the ribbon, it's true that there there isn't the drag
and drop UI built in, but customizing the ribbon via the
RibbonX tools and 'language' to rearrange everything is probably not any
higher degree of difficulty than it would be to write a
macro in VBA (in fact it's easier for me to follow the outline structure
of the RibbonX g), but surprisingly very few folks seem
to have jumped into that. There is even at least one MS tool, although
it's not a WYSIWYG one

What is 'fun' is to start Word in Safe Mode (hold ctrl key when starting
for those reading who may not be familiar with it) and
seeing the 'regular' ribbon if you have customized positions g. Then you
can really get confused.

Over time, I've noted that there is a definite pause now when I start a
prior version and go looking for things as the 'muscle
memory' now 'fights' to want to go to the Word 2007 places as first choice
when using the mouse g.

============
"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...
I don't think anyone will argue that the transition is far more difficult
than previous versions. It does get better the more familiar you become
but
I am convinced that it is NOT easier or more intuitive to use than
previous
versions. However, this may be because I have been a Word user since Word
2
which is making me prejudiced against this major interface change.

The way I see this is that the old interface was like the steering wheel
of
a car: it is intuitive and works well for everyone whether you are an old
granny out shopping or an F1 ace winning the Monaco Grand Prix. A joy
stick
or a drive-by-wire touch pad would be a disaster for the majority of
normal
drivers. I think of the ribbon as the latter.

Given a 'once and for all' choice between Office 2003 and Office 2007, I
have no doubts that I would choose the former because I am concerned that
the developers will not resolve the gaping holes they have made of the
latter's interface implementation.

Yes, I like the look and idea of the Ribbon, but I don't like the choice
of
tools that have been added in each group. As far as I am concerned, until
a
user is able to change the layout and tools on the ribbons and create a
custom ribbon straight out of the box without need for third party tools,
it
is a failure. To me the QAT is just a last minute panic measure to
overcome
the inflexibilities of the Ribbons.
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

Martin

Two things to help your neighbour...

There is the Quick Access Toolbar (the QAT). This lets you add tools that
are displayed on the Ribbons. The Print Preview button is one of those that
is a must to add.

This brings up the second point. That Pizza button in the top left corner of
the Word screen is actually the Office button and performs many of the
functions of the old File menu and opens using Alt+F. Quite a few upgraders
take a while to realise that it isn't just a decoration (embarrassingly,
that included me). Clicking on the Print button in the Office menu reveals
the Print Preview command.

But this brings us back to what is intuitive about Word 2007's ribbons? In
my opinion, not much. Intuitive would suggest that the Print Preview command
should be part of the Document Views group on the View ribbon - equally if
not more logically that under the Office button, Print command.

My QAT is quite large which suggest to me that the intuitive part of the
ribbons is missing.

Terry Farrell

"Martin C" wrote in message
...
Being a relative power user of Word myself, I am like a lot of others that
find 2007 quite difficult to use as I have trouble finding anything in it.
Only last night, I was asked by a neighbour to help her out with some
issues she was having doing relatively simple things with Word 2007.
Although I managed to help her out, it was a struggle.

Admittedly, I have hardly used 2007 at all, so this could be why I had
trouble finding things. The point here is that my neighbour has not really
used any of the other versions of Word much and found 2007 very difficult
to use. To call it intuitive is therefore wrong.

Although by the end of the session, I was starting to get to grips with it
a bit better, I was not impressed at all. I shall be sticking with 2003
for as long as possible.

For instance, to spend such a long time to find the print preview and
giving up is not a good sign.

Martin


"Bob Buckland ?:-)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com wrote
in message ...
Hi Terry,

To an extent I agree, for support folks and corporate types who locked
down everything anyway, for many users the Ribbon is 'more
predictable' and they probably don't see that anything has been lost. In
too many companies the 'show menus after a short delay')
is what folks live with after each log in when they're in prior versions.
That was pretty much taken away.

As to customizing the ribbon, it's true that there there isn't the drag
and drop UI built in, but customizing the ribbon via the
RibbonX tools and 'language' to rearrange everything is probably not any
higher degree of difficulty than it would be to write a
macro in VBA (in fact it's easier for me to follow the outline structure
of the RibbonX g), but surprisingly very few folks seem
to have jumped into that. There is even at least one MS tool, although
it's not a WYSIWYG one

What is 'fun' is to start Word in Safe Mode (hold ctrl key when starting
for those reading who may not be familiar with it) and
seeing the 'regular' ribbon if you have customized positions g. Then
you can really get confused.

Over time, I've noted that there is a definite pause now when I start a
prior version and go looking for things as the 'muscle
memory' now 'fights' to want to go to the Word 2007 places as first
choice when using the mouse g.

============
"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...
I don't think anyone will argue that the transition is far more difficult
than previous versions. It does get better the more familiar you become
but
I am convinced that it is NOT easier or more intuitive to use than
previous
versions. However, this may be because I have been a Word user since Word
2
which is making me prejudiced against this major interface change.

The way I see this is that the old interface was like the steering wheel
of
a car: it is intuitive and works well for everyone whether you are an old
granny out shopping or an F1 ace winning the Monaco Grand Prix. A joy
stick
or a drive-by-wire touch pad would be a disaster for the majority of
normal
drivers. I think of the ribbon as the latter.

Given a 'once and for all' choice between Office 2003 and Office 2007, I
have no doubts that I would choose the former because I am concerned that
the developers will not resolve the gaping holes they have made of the
latter's interface implementation.

Yes, I like the look and idea of the Ribbon, but I don't like the choice
of
tools that have been added in each group. As far as I am concerned, until
a
user is able to change the layout and tools on the ribbons and create a
custom ribbon straight out of the box without need for third party tools,
it
is a failure. To me the QAT is just a last minute panic measure to
overcome
the inflexibilities of the Ribbons.
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

I agree about views. It makes no sense not to have Print Preview on the View
tab.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...
Martin

Two things to help your neighbour...

There is the Quick Access Toolbar (the QAT). This lets you add tools that
are displayed on the Ribbons. The Print Preview button is one of those
that is a must to add.

This brings up the second point. That Pizza button in the top left corner
of the Word screen is actually the Office button and performs many of the
functions of the old File menu and opens using Alt+F. Quite a few
upgraders take a while to realise that it isn't just a decoration
(embarrassingly, that included me). Clicking on the Print button in the
Office menu reveals the Print Preview command.

But this brings us back to what is intuitive about Word 2007's ribbons? In
my opinion, not much. Intuitive would suggest that the Print Preview
command should be part of the Document Views group on the View ribbon -
equally if not more logically that under the Office button, Print command.

My QAT is quite large which suggest to me that the intuitive part of the
ribbons is missing.

Terry Farrell

"Martin C" wrote in message
...
Being a relative power user of Word myself, I am like a lot of others
that find 2007 quite difficult to use as I have trouble finding anything
in it. Only last night, I was asked by a neighbour to help her out with
some issues she was having doing relatively simple things with Word 2007.
Although I managed to help her out, it was a struggle.

Admittedly, I have hardly used 2007 at all, so this could be why I had
trouble finding things. The point here is that my neighbour has not
really used any of the other versions of Word much and found 2007 very
difficult to use. To call it intuitive is therefore wrong.

Although by the end of the session, I was starting to get to grips with
it a bit better, I was not impressed at all. I shall be sticking with
2003 for as long as possible.

For instance, to spend such a long time to find the print preview and
giving up is not a good sign.

Martin


"Bob Buckland ?:-)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com
wrote in message ...
Hi Terry,

To an extent I agree, for support folks and corporate types who locked
down everything anyway, for many users the Ribbon is 'more
predictable' and they probably don't see that anything has been lost.
In too many companies the 'show menus after a short delay')
is what folks live with after each log in when they're in prior
versions. That was pretty much taken away.

As to customizing the ribbon, it's true that there there isn't the drag
and drop UI built in, but customizing the ribbon via the
RibbonX tools and 'language' to rearrange everything is probably not any
higher degree of difficulty than it would be to write a
macro in VBA (in fact it's easier for me to follow the outline structure
of the RibbonX g), but surprisingly very few folks seem
to have jumped into that. There is even at least one MS tool, although
it's not a WYSIWYG one

What is 'fun' is to start Word in Safe Mode (hold ctrl key when starting
for those reading who may not be familiar with it) and
seeing the 'regular' ribbon if you have customized positions g. Then
you can really get confused.

Over time, I've noted that there is a definite pause now when I start a
prior version and go looking for things as the 'muscle
memory' now 'fights' to want to go to the Word 2007 places as first
choice when using the mouse g.

============
"Terry Farrell" wrote in message
...
I don't think anyone will argue that the transition is far more
difficult
than previous versions. It does get better the more familiar you become
but
I am convinced that it is NOT easier or more intuitive to use than
previous
versions. However, this may be because I have been a Word user since
Word 2
which is making me prejudiced against this major interface change.

The way I see this is that the old interface was like the steering wheel
of
a car: it is intuitive and works well for everyone whether you are an
old
granny out shopping or an F1 ace winning the Monaco Grand Prix. A joy
stick
or a drive-by-wire touch pad would be a disaster for the majority of
normal
drivers. I think of the ribbon as the latter.

Given a 'once and for all' choice between Office 2003 and Office 2007, I
have no doubts that I would choose the former because I am concerned
that
the developers will not resolve the gaping holes they have made of the
latter's interface implementation.

Yes, I like the look and idea of the Ribbon, but I don't like the choice
of
tools that have been added in each group. As far as I am concerned,
until a
user is able to change the layout and tools on the ribbons and create a
custom ribbon straight out of the box without need for third party
tools, it
is a failure. To me the QAT is just a last minute panic measure to
overcome
the inflexibilities of the Ribbons.
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

Hi Suzanne,

===========
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ...
[snip]
I agree that making Print Preview so hard to get to was a step backward.[snip]
========

Ahhh, how quickly we forget.

Word 2003 out of the box (hold ctrl key to access 'wayback' machine g)

File=expand[menus]=Print Preview

Word 2007 out of the box
Office Button=Print=Print Preview

(i.e. the default was 3 clicks, or 2 clicks and one hover in each g)

Steps to add Print Preview to toolbar in Word 2003
Tools=Customize= then with that dialog open
File=expand=drag print preview, close Customize dialog

Steps to add Print Preview to Quick Access Toolbar in Word 2007
Office Button=Print
then right click Print Preview, choose 'Add to Quick Access Toolbar'

[Imagine how much 'fun' it is to have that 'Expand' menu as the 'locked down' default every day on every Office 2003 app at work
g]


--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

Are you telling me that Print Preview was not on the Standard menu in Word
2003 by default? I guess my installation must have inherited the setting
from either a previous version or an earlier customization. It was certainly
on the Word 97 toolbar in an old screen shot I have, and I don't think I
added it there.

I don't know that it's any faster (fewer clicks), but perhaps it's more
"discoverable," that you can add Print Preview in Word 2003 by clicking the
arrow at the end of the Standard toolbar (if you can find it with Standard
and Formatting sharing a row), choosing Add or Remove Buttons and then
Standard (which has always seemed to me an unnecessary extra step) and then
clicking on Print Preview.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"Bob Buckland ?:-)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com wrote
in message ...
Hi Suzanne,

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"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
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[snip]
I agree that making Print Preview so hard to get to was a step
backward.[snip]
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Ahhh, how quickly we forget.

Word 2003 out of the box (hold ctrl key to access 'wayback' machine g)

File=expand[menus]=Print Preview

Word 2007 out of the box
Office Button=Print=Print Preview

(i.e. the default was 3 clicks, or 2 clicks and one hover in each g)

Steps to add Print Preview to toolbar in Word 2003
Tools=Customize= then with that dialog open
File=expand=drag print preview, close Customize dialog

Steps to add Print Preview to Quick Access Toolbar in Word 2007
Office Button=Print
then right click Print Preview, choose 'Add to Quick Access Toolbar'

[Imagine how much 'fun' it is to have that 'Expand' menu as the 'locked
down' default every day on every Office 2003 app at work
g]


--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

Yeah, you got him there, Suzanne:-)

In every version of Word I can recall [going back to Word 1.0 on the Mac]
there has been a Print Preview button on the Standard toolbar as an
out-of-the-box feature - right next to the Print button. It never had to be
added to a toolbar as an optional customization prior to Word 2007 - unless
you wanted it elsewhere as well or instead of the default location.

If developments on the Mac are any indication of coming trends in Windows -
not that such a thing would ever happen or has ever happened in the past:-)
- print services are being overtly assumed by the OS & printer software. MS
may be weaning their apps away from Print Preview altogether - in Office:Mac
2008 it's already been removed completely from Excel & PowerPoint.

Regards |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 6/13/08 11:34 PM, in article ,
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Are you telling me that Print Preview was not on the Standard menu in Word
2003 by default? I guess my installation must have inherited the setting
from either a previous version or an earlier customization. It was certainly
on the Word 97 toolbar in an old screen shot I have, and I don't think I
added it there.

I don't know that it's any faster (fewer clicks), but perhaps it's more
"discoverable," that you can add Print Preview in Word 2003 by clicking the
arrow at the end of the Standard toolbar (if you can find it with Standard
and Formatting sharing a row), choosing Add or Remove Buttons and then
Standard (which has always seemed to me an unnecessary extra step) and then
clicking on Print Preview.

I haven't had a chance to test yet, but Bob is probably right about Word
2003 (he almost always is). OHOH, I have a book on Office XP that clearly
shows the Print Preview button on the toolbar in that version, so I imagine
anyone who upgraded from Word 2002 to 2003 (as I did) would have had it.

I can't remember what I've done wrt moving my Normal.dot when I got a new
computer. I know I moved it from Word 2003 on my previous machine to Word
2003 on this one. In cases where I was starting with a new version (as in
the case of Word 2002 on the old machine) I may have started from
scratch--just can't recall. I know I did run into some interesting problems
with macros in moving from Word 6.0 to Word 95, but that's a story for
another time.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"CyberTaz" wrote in message
.. .
Yeah, you got him there, Suzanne:-)

In every version of Word I can recall [going back to Word 1.0 on the Mac]
there has been a Print Preview button on the Standard toolbar as an
out-of-the-box feature - right next to the Print button. It never had to
be
added to a toolbar as an optional customization prior to Word 2007 -
unless
you wanted it elsewhere as well or instead of the default location.

If developments on the Mac are any indication of coming trends in
Windows -
not that such a thing would ever happen or has ever happened in the
past:-)
- print services are being overtly assumed by the OS & printer software.
MS
may be weaning their apps away from Print Preview altogether - in
Office:Mac
2008 it's already been removed completely from Excel & PowerPoint.

Regards |:)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 6/13/08 11:34 PM, in article ,
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Are you telling me that Print Preview was not on the Standard menu in
Word
2003 by default? I guess my installation must have inherited the setting
from either a previous version or an earlier customization. It was
certainly
on the Word 97 toolbar in an old screen shot I have, and I don't think I
added it there.

I don't know that it's any faster (fewer clicks), but perhaps it's more
"discoverable," that you can add Print Preview in Word 2003 by clicking
the
arrow at the end of the Standard toolbar (if you can find it with
Standard
and Formatting sharing a row), choosing Add or Remove Buttons and then
Standard (which has always seemed to me an unnecessary extra step) and
then
clicking on Print Preview.