Annoying vertical line in emails

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message

The original suggestion works nicely. My other question is, can this
vertical line thing be STOPPED by an option the sender can change on her
end? By "option" (and this is for Mr. Aldwinckle's benefit), I mean
something you switch ONCE and don't look at again for a long time. Not a
tweak that's necessary for each sent email. Only crazy people want to
tweak
every email they send.

Tools | Messages | Send | Mail Settings | HTML Settings | Indent Reply
(uncheck)

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Thanks, Frank. When that's unchecked, will Outlook then use the that
everyone loves to hate?

No. (I don't think - I don't have Outlook on any of my machines). The is
only in plain text.

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As the Sender in this case is using Outlook, not Outlook Express, you'll
need to post the query to an Outlook-specific newsgroup, Doug:

news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlook
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof....configuration
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...utlook.General
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Doug Kanter wrote:
The original suggestion works nicely. My other question is, can this
vertical line thing be STOPPED by an option the sender can change on her
end? By "option" (and this is for Mr. Aldwinckle's benefit), I mean
something you switch ONCE and don't look at again for a long time. Not a
tweak that's necessary for each sent email. Only crazy people want to
tweak every email they send.


"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
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Well, I just tested this. OE puts a left border on every DIV it
generates when you reply, so other than the methods you describe, there
doesn't seem to be an easy way to get rid of the entire line.

However, if you don't want the line at all, then why do you have Indent
on reply checked under Tools | Options | Send | HTML settings?

steve

"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote in message
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"Steve Cochran" wrote in message

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"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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Is there a way to either make that line break

The only method that I have found is to use the Source pane
to bracket your new content with copies of the BLOCKQUOTE
end and begin tags.
...

Why edit the source? All you have to do is click on the decrease
indent tab
and the line goes away for the line you are on.


Note the portion of the sentence that I quoted? eg

I agree that the Decrease Indent command is an answer to the
portion that I didn't quote:
or get rid of it entirely?

I would also agree with suggesting that procedure *if* there was a way
to add the line back with the (ostensibly) reverse command,
Increase Indent but it is *not* the reverse of what the Decrease
Indent
does in that case. In fact, I can't even make Decrease Indent
command apply to just a selected portion of the text as you imply may
be possible.
If I select some text, that seems to be where the command starts to
take effect but it has no control over where it stops. Therefore if
I am inserting
new material and want to requote the portion under my insertion I
*have to*
use the Increase Indent command and that tabs the old material in,
rather than prefix it only by the solid line.

Hmm... I was thinking that in order to avoid that tab effect and
retain the solid line I would have to insert my own end and begin
BLOCKQUOTE tags but I have just realized that all I needed to do was
*use* the new BLOCKQUOTE tags that the Increase Indent command
generates and then replace the new BLOCKQUOTE begin tag's *attributes*
with the attributes from one which prefixes the solid bar and doesn't
tab.
That *is* much simpler! Thanks for making me find that.

Is there some other option I'm missing which would preserve/regenerate
the solid line otherwise?


Robert
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steve

"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message

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Is there a way to either make that line break

The only method that I have found is to use the Source pane
to bracket your new content with copies of the BLOCKQUOTE
end and begin tags. I.e. a copy of the original BLOCKQUOTE
end tag will prefix your addition; a copy of the original
BLOCKQUOTE begin tag will resume the vertical line prefix for the
text which follows.


HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
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When replying to some emails, the original sender's text ends
up with a
vertical line on the left margin. If I want to intersperse my
responses
with
their text, the line expands, instead of breaking, so it's hard
to differentiate original text from the response, unless I want
to fool around
with making mine a different color.

Is there a way to either make that line break, or get rid of it
entirely?

Hmmm....yes! I always bitch when it's clear that someone has not explored
their menus & options, but that's one that I missed. Thank you.


"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
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Do you have Indent messages on reply checked? ToolsOptionsSendHTML
Settings.
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP - (IE/OE)
~IB-CA~

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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Thanks, Steve. Worked like a charm. One more question: The person who
sends me these emails is using Outlook (not OE). In that program's
options, is there a way to tell it to NOT create those lines?

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
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Go to a new line. Then on the formatting bar click on the decrease
indent button and then will remove the line.

steve

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
When replying to some emails, the original sender's text ends up with a
vertical line on the left margin. If I want to intersperse my responses
with their text, the line expands, instead of breaking, so it's hard to
differentiate original text from the response, unless I want to fool
around with making mine a different color.

Is there a way to either make that line break, or get rid of it
entirely?

Hmmm....yes! I always bitch when it's clear that someone has not explored
their menus & options, but that's one that I missed. Thank you.


"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Do you have Indent messages on reply checked? ToolsOptionsSendHTML
Settings.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP - (IE/OE)
~IB-CA~

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Thanks, Steve. Worked like a charm. One more question: The person who
sends me these emails is using Outlook (not OE). In that program's
options, is there a way to tell it to NOT create those lines?

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
Go to a new line. Then on the formatting bar click on the decrease
indent button and then will remove the line.

steve

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
When replying to some emails, the original sender's text ends up with a
vertical line on the left margin. If I want to intersperse my responses
with their text, the line expands, instead of breaking, so it's hard to
differentiate original text from the response, unless I want to fool
around with making mine a different color.

Is there a way to either make that line break, or get rid of it
entirely?

Hmmm....yes! I always bitch when it's clear that someone has not explored
their menus & options, but that's one that I missed. Thank you.


"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Do you have Indent messages on reply checked? ToolsOptionsSendHTML
Settings.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP - (IE/OE)
~IB-CA~

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Thanks, Steve. Worked like a charm. One more question: The person who
sends me these emails is using Outlook (not OE). In that program's
options, is there a way to tell it to NOT create those lines?

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
Go to a new line. Then on the formatting bar click on the decrease
indent button and then will remove the line.

steve

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
When replying to some emails, the original sender's text ends up with a
vertical line on the left margin. If I want to intersperse my responses
with their text, the line expands, instead of breaking, so it's hard to
differentiate original text from the response, unless I want to fool
around with making mine a different color.

Is there a way to either make that line break, or get rid of it
entirely?

Thanks, Steve. Worked like a charm. One more question: The person who sends
me these emails is using Outlook (not OE). In that program's options, is
there a way to tell it to NOT create those lines?

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
Go to a new line. Then on the formatting bar click on the decrease indent
button and then will remove the line.

steve

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
When replying to some emails, the original sender's text ends up with a
vertical line on the left margin. If I want to intersperse my responses
with their text, the line expands, instead of breaking, so it's hard to
differentiate original text from the response, unless I want to fool
around with making mine a different color.

Is there a way to either make that line break, or get rid of it entirely?

I don't know about Outlook, but that person could check its options. When
you reply, it doesn't matter what the sender uses for email, its your reply
settings that dictate whether or not the line appears when you reply.

Well, I just checked Outlook and under Tools | Options | Preferences | Email
settings you can configure how it replies.

steve


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Thanks, Steve. Worked like a charm. One more question: The person who
sends me these emails is using Outlook (not OE). In that program's
options, is there a way to tell it to NOT create those lines?

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
Go to a new line. Then on the formatting bar click on the decrease
indent button and then will remove the line.

steve

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
When replying to some emails, the original sender's text ends up with a
vertical line on the left margin. If I want to intersperse my responses
with their text, the line expands, instead of breaking, so it's hard to
differentiate original text from the response, unless I want to fool
around with making mine a different color.

Is there a way to either make that line break, or get rid of it
entirely?