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  #21  
Old March 18th, 2005, 11:29 PM
PA Bear
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Please include previous message in your replies.

Just for the record, when I set up OE, I had moved my message store
folder to a subfolder under My Documents. Do you think it could cause a
problem?


Did you move your store /exactly/ as outlined here?...
http://www.insideoe.com/files/store.htm#movestore

And also, is there any way to retrieve the data (system restore??)?


No.
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~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (Shell, IE/OE) & Security

rpm wrote:
I have enabled hidden files view. For all folders on my computer. I
found one of the missing folder's dbx file in one other location. But
it was only 75KB and I suspect it was created during my endless trials
of 'outlook express repair' tools.

Just for the record, when I set up OE, I had moved my message store
folder to a subfolder under My Documents. Do you think it could cause a
problem?

And also, is there any way to retrieve the data (system restore??)?


  #22  
Old March 18th, 2005, 11:37 PM
rpm
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Please include previous message in your replies.

Just for the record, when I set up OE, I had moved my message store
folder to a subfolder under My Documents. Do you think it could cause

a
problem?


Did you move your store /exactly/ as outlined here?...
http://www.insideoe.com/files/store.htm#movestore

---

Yes, I did.

---


And also, is there any way to retrieve the data (system restore??)?


No.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (Shell, IE/OE) & Security

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rpm wrote:
I have enabled hidden files view. For all folders on my computer. I
found one of the missing folder's dbx file in one other location. But
it was only 75KB and I suspect it was created during my endless

trials
of 'outlook express repair' tools.


Just for the record, when I set up OE, I had moved my message store
folder to a subfolder under My Documents. Do you think it could cause

a
problem?


And also, is there any way to retrieve the data (system restore??)?


  #23  
Old March 18th, 2005, 11:40 PM
PA Bear
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rpm wrote:
Please include previous message in your replies.

Just for the record, when I set up OE, I had moved my message store
folder to a subfolder under My Documents. Do you think it could cause a
problem?


Did you move your store /exactly/ as outlined here?...
http://www.insideoe.com/files/store.htm#movestore

---

Yes, I did.


Then the answer to your question would be no.
--
~PA Bear


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And also, is there any way to retrieve the data (system restore??)?


No.

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rpm wrote:
I have enabled hidden files view. For all folders on my computer. I
found one of the missing folder's dbx file in one other location. But
it was only 75KB and I suspect it was created during my endless trials
of 'outlook express repair' tools.


Just for the record, when I set up OE, I had moved my message store
folder to a subfolder under My Documents. Do you think it could cause a
problem?


And also, is there any way to retrieve the data (system restore??)?

  #24  
Old March 18th, 2005, 11:41 PM
Jim Pickering
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If you did not move it as PA Bear indicated in the link he posted, you
overwrote the entire thing with blank DBX files. If a search cannot find
any other DBX files, you are, I'm afraid, well and truly, "screwed." Sorry.
http://www.insideoe.com/files/store.htm#movestore

Failing to create an empty folder first to contain the DBX files, before
attempting the move will do this. I'd recommend you create an empty folder
in a convenient location other than the rather convoluted path to a file in
the user profileMy Documents folder. I keep mine in the root directory of
the C:\ drive. And its name is a really difficult one to find, i.e., it's
called Mail.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
Please reply to newsgroup only.


"rpm" wrote in message
oups.com...
I have enabled hidden files view. For all folders on my computer. I
found one of the missing folder's dbx file in one other location. But
it was only 75KB and I suspect it was created during my endless trials
of 'outlook express repair' tools.

Just for the record, when I set up OE, I had moved my message store
folder to a subfolder under My Documents. Do you think it could cause a
problem?

And also, is there any way to retrieve the data (system restore??)?


  #25  
Old March 18th, 2005, 11:54 PM
rpm
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If you did not move it as PA Bear indicated in the link he posted, you
overwrote the entire thing with blank DBX files. If a search cannot
find
any other DBX files, you are, I'm afraid, well and truly, "screwed."
Sorry.
http://www.insideoe.com/files/store.htm#movestore



Failing to create an empty folder first to contain the DBX files,
before
attempting the move will do this. I'd recommend you create an empty
folder
in a convenient location other than the rather convoluted path to a
file in
the user profileMy Documents folder. I keep mine in the root
directory of
the C:\ drive. And its name is a really difficult one to find, i.e.,
it's
called Mail.
--

Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
Please reply to newsgroup only.
"rpm" wrote in message
news

.com...

- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I have enabled hidden files view. For all folders on my computer. I
found one of the missing folder's dbx file in one other location. But
it was only 75KB and I suspect it was created during my endless

trials
of 'outlook express repair' tools.


Just for the record, when I set up OE, I had moved my message store
folder to a subfolder under My Documents. Do you think it could cause

a
problem?


And also, is there any way to retrieve the data (system restore??)?



----

Yes, I did follow the steps as outlined there. Also, I did that when I
set up the computer, not after setting up email connections and rules,
etc. So I know that all folders were empty when I did it years ago.

I think the problem came about only after it compacted the folders. :-(

Guess I am 'screwed' in that respect then. No other choice to get that
data back, right?

-rpm

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Old March 19th, 2005, 12:46 AM
Jim Pickering
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"rpm" wrote in message
oups.com...
I think the problem came about only after it compacted the folders. :-(

Guess I am 'screwed' in that respect then. No other choice to get that
data back, right?

-rpm


Some antivirus programs can cause this problem. Norton's has been known to
write all "zeroes" to a DBX file and shutting down a computer while
compacting of the message store is in progress can also cause it. But since
you say you've enabled the Show Hidden Files choice and can find no other
DBX files, unless you have a backup on CD or tape, you're most likely out of
luck. Wish I could be more positive but I don't see any other choice.
Sorry.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
Please reply to newsgroup only.


  #27  
Old March 19th, 2005, 12:56 AM
Alias
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"Bruce Hagen" wrote


And. Backup & Resto
http://www.insideoe.com/backup/

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP - (IE/OE)
~IB-CA~


Great program. Instances like this one show how necessary it is to do back
up and that program is 4 (3, if you have one click set up for Windows)
clicks and you're done!

Alias



wrote in message
oups.com...
I am in an unfortunate situation where some of my folders were
automatically compacted and now I cannot see any messages in those
folders.

Details about my computer:
Compaq R3000Z Laptop
Windows XP with SP2
Outlook Express 6
Using hotmail as well as POP emails
Folders with lost messages are on Local Folders

I have gone through some of the suggestions like:

- Try File | Import
- Moving the .dbx file to another location and trying to open it from
there
- I even bought DBXpress from oehelp.com, but no good

I see that the file exists in the message store, and it is non-zero
bytes, so I have *some* hope.

Can something be done to retrieve the messages in those folders? I have
about 2 years' worth emails there :-(

Thanks in advance,

rpm





  #28  
Old March 19th, 2005, 12:35 PM
Steve Cochran
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Your only chance, as I indicated, is to run DBXpress in its extract from
disk mode. If the messages are still on the disk clusters, then DBXpress in
this mode will find them.

steve

"rpm" wrote in message
oups.com...
If you did not move it as PA Bear indicated in the link he posted, you
overwrote the entire thing with blank DBX files. If a search cannot
find
any other DBX files, you are, I'm afraid, well and truly, "screwed."
Sorry.
http://www.insideoe.com/files/store.htm#movestore



Failing to create an empty folder first to contain the DBX files,
before
attempting the move will do this. I'd recommend you create an empty
folder
in a convenient location other than the rather convoluted path to a
file in
the user profileMy Documents folder. I keep mine in the root
directory of
the C:\ drive. And its name is a really difficult one to find, i.e.,
it's
called Mail.
--

Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
Please reply to newsgroup only.
"rpm" wrote in message
news

.com...

- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I have enabled hidden files view. For all folders on my computer. I
found one of the missing folder's dbx file in one other location. But
it was only 75KB and I suspect it was created during my endless

trials
of 'outlook express repair' tools.


Just for the record, when I set up OE, I had moved my message store
folder to a subfolder under My Documents. Do you think it could cause

a
problem?


And also, is there any way to retrieve the data (system restore??)?



----

Yes, I did follow the steps as outlined there. Also, I did that when I
set up the computer, not after setting up email connections and rules,
etc. So I know that all folders were empty when I did it years ago.

I think the problem came about only after it compacted the folders. :-(

Guess I am 'screwed' in that respect then. No other choice to get that
data back, right?

-rpm

-----


 




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