Email Scanning

Thank you, Bruce Hagen
There is a lot to be said for having Esperance
Thanks for the links very interesting to say the least.

I remain willing to listen.
H Brown

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Viral Irony: The Most Common Cause of Corruption:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...ion.mspx#EOAAC

Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email:
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"H Brown" wrote in message
...
Your time and timely reply is greatly appreciated.
You're a talented Wordsmith and with a great name like D. Spencer Hines
I'm sure to find
writings' by you. Your name and writing seem to fit hand in glove.

I remain appreciative
H Brown

"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...
I appreciate your concerns and yours is an intelligent post.

I'm using XP Pro SP3 and Norton Internet Security 2009, among other
things.

Beyond that, I choose not to go in responding to your questionnaire.

I use other software to counter threats as well as other techniques,
schedules and habits.

I've had some experiences that have educated and tempered me as to how
to handle viruses, Trojans and worms. I've eliminated some from
computers I own -- by myself.

But to go into details about that in this medium would be as stupid as
prominently hanging my house key on my mailbox.

Don't forget about the Chinese Hackers, et alii.

I'll still be scanning my email -- among many other precautions.

I've already expunged five threats this very morning.

Cheers,
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

"H Brown" wrote in message
...

Hi D. Spencer Hines

I see merit to both sides of the argument. For a little over two years
I've been running
Vista HP using Avast. I felt as you've felt and scanned email and as
far as I can tell scanning email
never caused me a problem. About 4 months ago I stopped scanning email
and the only benefit
was a slight speed gain, nor has not scanning emails caused a problem.
In the 20 months I was
scanning emails I never received any alerts of any threats. I have had
the Servers of my ISP(s) block
incoming emails ,attachments and/or imbedded images. It does seem that
one school, the don't scan
email have seen many problems caused by some scanning software and they
must feel that it can
cause more problems than problems scanning will prevent. I don't know
if their stats represent the vast majority or not.
I can understand how some virus scanning software will cause problems.
I know that there are those that clam to be experts who promote the
idea that anyone can get a virus by just opening an email.
There seems to be a larger number of experts who promote that that's
not possible or most unlikely. I can see where both can be wrong and
right.
But that could all depend on what kind of network and how sophisticated
it is. Both sides of this argument maybe right to one degree or the
other, but I believe
it depends more or less on the exact circumstances of the Network being
discussed.
Most people are only dealing with "The Internet" or as they think of it
"The WWW".

So, please for all those who feel as you do, or are not sure which way
to go please share the information about your setup.
What Virus scanning software you use, your OS and the hardware you feel
a person should conceder using to
avoid slow downs that scanning emails may cause. How often has your
virus scanning software alerted you when scanning emails?
What have the threats been that you have received but avoided by
scanning email?
What problems have you had in the past that you feel were caused by not
scanning your emails? Both incoming and out going emails.
What virus have you had that were caused by opening emails?
Have you had any virus that slipped by your email virus scanning
software and made it on to your system when you did open them?
The make model and aka of any virus would also be nice to know.
In the past have you used any virus scanning software that did cause
you problems (what were the problems?) and therefore caused you to
switch to another or the virus software you currently run?
How often do you recommend doing a through virus scan of a system?
Using your virus scanning software what changes to the default setting
do you recommend?

Do you have any tips or other precautions you would recommend being
used when it comes to security and emails in particular?

I Remain Security Conscious,
H Brown

"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...

"Gary VanderMolen" wrote in message
...

Email scanning in any antivirus must be disabled, for reasons
explained he

http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Email Scanning has never given me any problems.

This fuss about the supposed evils of email scanning is a tempest in a
teapot as well as bum dope.

I keep email scanning on for both send and receive and have an extra
layer
of protection...

If others want to strip off that layer of protection that's their
loss --
and their problem, when something goes wrong.

AND I don't send out infected files to my contacts.

Benefits All Around...

For Both Me & My Correspondents.

It's quite foolish not to email scan if your AV/IS software
incorporates
that feature -- and I wouldn't want a program that did not have it.

I don't want the virus, trojan, worm, or whatever, to even GET to my
hard drive unannounced -- much less for me to open it.

Further, email scanning doesn't slow me down at all.

Emails open quickly and securely in Outlook Express, Outlook, Windows
Live
Mail, Thunderbird and Forte Agent.

DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

HBrown,
You're welcome.
I appreciate your kind comments.

Any personal thoughts on scanning email ?
Absolutely...uncheck it during install if an available custom option and/or disable in the AV program.

Even Mr. Peabody(Rocky and Bullwinkle) and Lisa Simpson are quite capable wordsmiths, but no amount of eloquence will ever make
them (or some other perceived wordsmiths) anything more than they are....cartoons.

--
...winston
ms-mvp mail

"H Brown" wrote in message ...
Thank you Winston,
Ill take what you say into consideration, but you must admit the man is a wordsmith.
I will admit it seems your experience concerning this subject is deeper than anything
I could possible aeration at this point in time due to my very limited exposure.

I will say that I have received a lot of benefit from your posting (usefulness) over time and want to thank
you for your willingness to share your knowledge. In that regard it seems the hardest part of being able to help people
is figuring out the question. Many times when searching for information on these newsgroups I understand the answers, but many
times I am totally confused by the questions.

Winston, Having read this thread do you have any thoughts concerning scanning email?

My most sincere thanks for your concerns Winston,
H Brown


"...winston" wrote in message ...
History(search the net) and that response should tell you there is more charade than accuracy when receiving a response like
that..I.e. Imo, not worthy of believing a single word.

--
...winston
ms-mvp mail

"H Brown" wrote in message ...
Your time and timely reply is greatly appreciated.
You're a talented Wordsmith and with a great name like D. Spencer Hines I'm sure to find
writings' by you. Your name and writing seem to fit hand in glove.

I remain appreciative
H Brown

"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message ...
I appreciate your concerns and yours is an intelligent post.

I'm using XP Pro SP3 and Norton Internet Security 2009, among other things.

Beyond that, I choose not to go in responding to your questionnaire.

I use other software to counter threats as well as other techniques, schedules and habits.

I've had some experiences that have educated and tempered me as to how to handle viruses, Trojans and worms. I've eliminated
some from computers I own -- by myself.

But to go into details about that in this medium would be as stupid as prominently hanging my house key on my mailbox.

Don't forget about the Chinese Hackers, et alii.

I'll still be scanning my email -- among many other precautions.

I've already expunged five threats this very morning.

Cheers,
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

"H Brown" wrote in message ...

Hi D. Spencer Hines

I see merit to both sides of the argument. For a little over two years I've been running
Vista HP using Avast. I felt as you've felt and scanned email and as far as I can tell scanning email
never caused me a problem. About 4 months ago I stopped scanning email and the only benefit
was a slight speed gain, nor has not scanning emails caused a problem. In the 20 months I was
scanning emails I never received any alerts of any threats. I have had the Servers of my ISP(s) block
incoming emails ,attachments and/or imbedded images. It does seem that one school, the don't scan
email have seen many problems caused by some scanning software and they must feel that it can
cause more problems than problems scanning will prevent. I don't know if their stats represent the vast majority or not.
I can understand how some virus scanning software will cause problems.
I know that there are those that clam to be experts who promote the idea that anyone can get a virus by just opening an
email.
There seems to be a larger number of experts who promote that that's not possible or most unlikely. I can see where both can
be wrong and right.
But that could all depend on what kind of network and how sophisticated it is. Both sides of this argument maybe right to
one degree or the other, but I believe
it depends more or less on the exact circumstances of the Network being discussed.
Most people are only dealing with "The Internet" or as they think of it "The WWW".

So, please for all those who feel as you do, or are not sure which way to go please share the information about your setup.
What Virus scanning software you use, your OS and the hardware you feel a person should conceder using to
avoid slow downs that scanning emails may cause. How often has your virus scanning software alerted you when scanning
emails?
What have the threats been that you have received but avoided by scanning email?
What problems have you had in the past that you feel were caused by not scanning your emails? Both incoming and out going
emails.
What virus have you had that were caused by opening emails?
Have you had any virus that slipped by your email virus scanning software and made it on to your system when you did open
them?
The make model and aka of any virus would also be nice to know.
In the past have you used any virus scanning software that did cause you problems (what were the problems?) and therefore
caused you to switch to another or the virus software you currently run?
How often do you recommend doing a through virus scan of a system? Using your virus scanning software what changes to the
default setting do you recommend?

Do you have any tips or other precautions you would recommend being used when it comes to security and emails in particular?

I Remain Security Conscious,
H Brown

"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message ...

"Gary VanderMolen" wrote in message
...

Email scanning in any antivirus must be disabled, for reasons
explained he

http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Email Scanning has never given me any problems.

This fuss about the supposed evils of email scanning is a tempest in a teapot as well as bum dope.

I keep email scanning on for both send and receive and have an extra layer
of protection...

If others want to strip off that layer of protection that's their loss --
and their problem, when something goes wrong.

AND I don't send out infected files to my contacts.

Benefits All Around...

For Both Me & My Correspondents.

It's quite foolish not to email scan if your AV/IS software incorporates
that feature -- and I wouldn't want a program that did not have it.

I don't want the virus, trojan, worm, or whatever, to even GET to my hard drive unannounced -- much less for me to open it.

Further, email scanning doesn't slow me down at all.

Emails open quickly and securely in Outlook Express, Outlook, Windows Live
Mail, Thunderbird and Forte Agent.

DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

VanderMolen is having quite a bit of trouble understanding the important
concept of ...

Redundancy...

In Cybernetic Security Systems.
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

"Gary VanderMolen" wrote in message
...

It's quite foolish not to email scan if your AV/IS software incorporates
that feature -- and I wouldn't want a program that did not have it.

Caveat emptor! The email scanning function is in the AV product
because all the competitors include it, and it makes for another bullet
on the box for gullible buyers.

Even Symantec (Norton), the originator of the email scanning concept
admits that it is redundant and unnecessary:

"Is my computer still protected against viruses if I disable Email Scanning?
Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses
that are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect
scans incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email
and email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of this.
To make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep
Auto- Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you have
the most recent virus definitions."

See http://tinyurl.com/bhsva or
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...= bar_sch_nam

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail

H Brown.
See this recent thread in microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support.

http://groups.google.com/group/micro...eed%40site.com
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"H Brown" wrote in message
...
Thank you, Bruce Hagen
There is a lot to be said for having Esperance
Thanks for the links very interesting to say the least.

I remain willing to listen.
H Brown

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
Viral Irony: The Most Common Cause of Corruption:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...ion.mspx#EOAAC

Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email:
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"H Brown" wrote in message
...
Your time and timely reply is greatly appreciated.
You're a talented Wordsmith and with a great name like D. Spencer Hines
I'm sure to find
writings' by you. Your name and writing seem to fit hand in glove.

I remain appreciative
H Brown

"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...
I appreciate your concerns and yours is an intelligent post.

I'm using XP Pro SP3 and Norton Internet Security 2009, among other
things.

Beyond that, I choose not to go in responding to your questionnaire.

I use other software to counter threats as well as other techniques,
schedules and habits.

I've had some experiences that have educated and tempered me as to how
to handle viruses, Trojans and worms. I've eliminated some from
computers I own -- by myself.

But to go into details about that in this medium would be as stupid as
prominently hanging my house key on my mailbox.

Don't forget about the Chinese Hackers, et alii.

I'll still be scanning my email -- among many other precautions.

I've already expunged five threats this very morning.

Cheers,
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

"H Brown" wrote in message
...

Hi D. Spencer Hines

I see merit to both sides of the argument. For a little over two
years I've been running
Vista HP using Avast. I felt as you've felt and scanned email and as
far as I can tell scanning email
never caused me a problem. About 4 months ago I stopped scanning
email and the only benefit
was a slight speed gain, nor has not scanning emails caused a problem.
In the 20 months I was
scanning emails I never received any alerts of any threats. I have
had the Servers of my ISP(s) block
incoming emails ,attachments and/or imbedded images. It does seem that
one school, the don't scan
email have seen many problems caused by some scanning software and
they must feel that it can
cause more problems than problems scanning will prevent. I don't know
if their stats represent the vast majority or not.
I can understand how some virus scanning software will cause problems.
I know that there are those that clam to be experts who promote the
idea that anyone can get a virus by just opening an email.
There seems to be a larger number of experts who promote that that's
not possible or most unlikely. I can see where both can be wrong and
right.
But that could all depend on what kind of network and how
sophisticated it is. Both sides of this argument maybe right to one
degree or the other, but I believe
it depends more or less on the exact circumstances of the Network
being discussed.
Most people are only dealing with "The Internet" or as they think of
it "The WWW".

So, please for all those who feel as you do, or are not sure which way
to go please share the information about your setup.
What Virus scanning software you use, your OS and the hardware you
feel a person should conceder using to
avoid slow downs that scanning emails may cause. How often has your
virus scanning software alerted you when scanning emails?
What have the threats been that you have received but avoided by
scanning email?
What problems have you had in the past that you feel were caused by
not scanning your emails? Both incoming and out going emails.
What virus have you had that were caused by opening emails?
Have you had any virus that slipped by your email virus scanning
software and made it on to your system when you did open them?
The make model and aka of any virus would also be nice to know.
In the past have you used any virus scanning software that did cause
you problems (what were the problems?) and therefore caused you to
switch to another or the virus software you currently run?
How often do you recommend doing a through virus scan of a system?
Using your virus scanning software what changes to the default setting
do you recommend?

Do you have any tips or other precautions you would recommend being
used when it comes to security and emails in particular?

I Remain Security Conscious,
H Brown

"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...

"Gary VanderMolen" wrote in message
...

Email scanning in any antivirus must be disabled, for reasons
explained he

http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Email Scanning has never given me any problems.

This fuss about the supposed evils of email scanning is a tempest in
a teapot as well as bum dope.

I keep email scanning on for both send and receive and have an extra
layer
of protection...

If others want to strip off that layer of protection that's their
loss --
and their problem, when something goes wrong.

AND I don't send out infected files to my contacts.

Benefits All Around...

For Both Me & My Correspondents.

It's quite foolish not to email scan if your AV/IS software
incorporates
that feature -- and I wouldn't want a program that did not have it.

I don't want the virus, trojan, worm, or whatever, to even GET to my
hard drive unannounced -- much less for me to open it.

Further, email scanning doesn't slow me down at all.

Emails open quickly and securely in Outlook Express, Outlook, Windows
Live
Mail, Thunderbird and Forte Agent.

DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

Banks use redundant and overlapping security systems.

CIA, DIA and NSA use redundant and overlapping security systems.

Submarines use redundant and overlapping security systems

The Federal Gold Depository at Fort Knox [think James Bond and _Goldfinger_]
uses redundant and overlapping security systems.

The New York Fed uses redundant and overlapping security systems.

Home Security Systems should employ redundant and overlapping security
systems.

Cybernetic Systems, both institutional and domestic, should employ redundant
and overlapping security systems -- contra the untutored wailings of little
rampant pogues such as "winston"...

Some rampant, semi-hemi-quasi-educated technician pogues in these newsgroups
are very much ANTIS when it comes to Email Scanning because they have seen
it lead to corruption of Outlook Express DBX files in the past on the
systems of equally ignorant and careless rampant pogues who do NOT regularly
Clean Up and Compact their files.

So they rant rigidly, rapturously and craniorectally inverted about the
Terrible Evils of Email Scanning...

Amusing little fellows they are.

Suitable For Public Pillorying...
--
D. Spencer Hines
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor
Veni, Vidi, Calcitravi Asinum

You are doing a tremendous disservice to users by posting your drivel here.
Users should ignore the post below because it is posted by someone with
little or no experience in helping users of OE, and is completely
misleading.

I have been constantly involved with assisting users in these NGs since 1997
and its clear that email scanning has been a huge problem for users and
continues to be so. See www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

Its amazing how someone can write so much and be so uninformed and dogmatic
and wrong.

steve

(idiotic cross-posting removed)

"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...
"Gary VanderMolen" wrote in message
...

Email scanning in any antivirus must be disabled, for reasons
explained he

http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Email Scanning has never given me any problems.

This fuss about the supposed evils of email scanning is a tempest in a
teapot as well as bum dope.

I keep email scanning on for both send and receive and have an extra layer
of protection...

If others want to strip off that layer of protection that's their loss --
and their problem, when something goes wrong.

AND I don't send out infected files to my contacts.

Benefits All Around...

For Both Me & My Correspondents.

It's quite foolish not to email scan if your AV/IS software incorporates
that feature -- and I wouldn't want a program that did not have it.

I don't want the virus, trojan, worm, or whatever, to even GET to my hard
drive unannounced -- much less for me to open it.

Further, email scanning doesn't slow me down at all.

Emails open quickly and securely in Outlook Express, Outlook, Windows Live
Mail, Thunderbird and Forte Agent.

DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

VERY Unprofessional...

Cochran can't see the forest for the trees.

He's focused solely on the DBX corruption problem in Outlook Express, where
he has his head firmly planted -- oblivious to other important issues.

He's a Johnny-One-Note and can only sing one song.

Prosecutio stultitiae est gravis vexatio, executio stultitiae coronat opus.

Email Scanning does not cause me any problems in OE because I...

KEEP MY DBX FILES TIGHTLY COMPACTED.

DELETE ASH & TRASH REGULARLY & COMPACT SEVERAL TIMES PER DAY.

DON'T LET THE FILES GET TOO BIG...

THEN EMAIL SCAN WITH CONFIDENCE, SPEED & TRANQUILITY

Vide infra for my further uneventful experiences.

Exitus Acta Probat.

DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
news
Balderdash & Codswallop Deleted
----------------------------------------------------------------

Email Scanning has never given me any problems.

This fuss about the supposed evils of email scanning is a tempest in a
teapot as well as bum dope.

I keep email scanning on for both send and receive and have an extra layer
of protection...

If others want to strip off that layer of protection that's their loss --
and their problem, when something goes wrong....

AND I don't send out infected files to my contacts.

Benefits All 'Round...

For Both Me & My Correspondents.

It's quite foolish not to email scan if your AV/IS software incorporates
that feature -- and I wouldn't want a program that did not have it.

I don't want the virus, trojan, worm, or whatever, to even GET to my hard
drive unannounced -- much less for me to open it.

Further, email scanning doesn't slow me down at all.

Emails open quickly and securely in Outlook Express, OUTLOOK, Windows Live
Mail, Mozilla Thunderbird and Forte Agent.

DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

Further:

Banks use redundant and overlapping security systems.

CIA, DIA and NSA use redundant and overlapping security systems.

Submarines use redundant and overlapping security systems

The Federal Gold Depository at Fort Knox [think James Bond and _Goldfinger_]
uses redundant and overlapping security systems.

The New York Fed uses redundant and overlapping security systems.

Home Security Systems should employ redundant and overlapping security
systems.

Cybernetic Systems, both institutional and domestic, should employ redundant
and overlapping security systems -- contra the untutored wailings of little
rampant pogues such as "winston" and Cochran....

Some rampant, semi-hemi-quasi-educated technician pogues in these newsgroups
are very much ANTIS when it comes to Email Scanning because they have seen
it lead to corruption of Outlook Express DBX files in the past on the
systems of equally ignorant and careless rampant pogues who do NOT regularly
Clean Up and Compact their files.

So they rant rigidly, rapturously and craniorectally inverted about the
Terrible Evils of Email Scanning...

Amusing little fellows they are.

Suitable For Public Pillorying, Excoriation & Castigation...
--
D. Spencer Hines
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor
Veni, Vidi, Calcitravi Asinum

Aha. I see that you are starting the second phase of your trolling. Get a life
already

--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...
VERY Unprofessional...

Cochran can't see the forest for the trees.

He's focused solely on the DBX corruption problem in Outlook Express, where
he has his head firmly planted -- oblivious to other important issues.

He's a Johnny-One-Note and can only sing one song.

Prosecutio stultitiae est gravis vexatio, executio stultitiae coronat opus.

Email Scanning does not cause me any problems in OE because I...

KEEP MY DBX FILES TIGHTLY COMPACTED.

DELETE ASH & TRASH REGULARLY & COMPACT SEVERAL TIMES PER DAY.

DON'T LET THE FILES GET TOO BIG...

THEN EMAIL SCAN WITH CONFIDENCE, SPEED & TRANQUILITY

Vide infra for my further uneventful experiences.

Exitus Acta Probat.

DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
news
Balderdash & Codswallop Deleted
----------------------------------------------------------------

Email Scanning has never given me any problems.

This fuss about the supposed evils of email scanning is a tempest in a
teapot as well as bum dope.

I keep email scanning on for both send and receive and have an extra layer
of protection...

If others want to strip off that layer of protection that's their loss --
and their problem, when something goes wrong....

AND I don't send out infected files to my contacts.

Benefits All 'Round...

For Both Me & My Correspondents.

It's quite foolish not to email scan if your AV/IS software incorporates
that feature -- and I wouldn't want a program that did not have it.

I don't want the virus, trojan, worm, or whatever, to even GET to my hard
drive unannounced -- much less for me to open it.

Further, email scanning doesn't slow me down at all.

Emails open quickly and securely in Outlook Express, OUTLOOK, Windows Live
Mail, Mozilla Thunderbird and Forte Agent.

DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

Further:

Banks use redundant and overlapping security systems.

CIA, DIA and NSA use redundant and overlapping security systems.

Submarines use redundant and overlapping security systems

The Federal Gold Depository at Fort Knox [think James Bond and _Goldfinger_]
uses redundant and overlapping security systems.

The New York Fed uses redundant and overlapping security systems.

Home Security Systems should employ redundant and overlapping security
systems.

Cybernetic Systems, both institutional and domestic, should employ redundant
and overlapping security systems -- contra the untutored wailings of little
rampant pogues such as "winston" and Cochran....

Some rampant, semi-hemi-quasi-educated technician pogues in these newsgroups
are very much ANTIS when it comes to Email Scanning because they have seen
it lead to corruption of Outlook Express DBX files in the past on the
systems of equally ignorant and careless rampant pogues who do NOT regularly
Clean Up and Compact their files.

So they rant rigidly, rapturously and craniorectally inverted about the
Terrible Evils of Email Scanning...

Amusing little fellows they are.

Suitable For Public Pillorying, Excoriation & Castigation...
--
D. Spencer Hines
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor
Veni, Vidi, Calcitravi Asinum

Not particularly bright, is he?

Hal
--
Hal Hostetler, CPBE --
Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-Print/Imaging -- WA7BGX
http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!"
KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ. NBC Channel 4
Still Cadillacin' - www.badnewsbluesband.com

"Peter Foldes" wrote in message
...
Aha. I see that you are starting the second phase of your trolling. Get a
life already

--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...
VERY Unprofessional...

Cochran can't see the forest for the trees.

He's focused solely on the DBX corruption problem in Outlook Express,
where
he has his head firmly planted -- oblivious to other important issues.

He's a Johnny-One-Note and can only sing one song.

Prosecutio stultitiae est gravis vexatio, executio stultitiae coronat
opus.

Email Scanning does not cause me any problems in OE because I...

KEEP MY DBX FILES TIGHTLY COMPACTED.

DELETE ASH & TRASH REGULARLY & COMPACT SEVERAL TIMES PER DAY.

DON'T LET THE FILES GET TOO BIG...

THEN EMAIL SCAN WITH CONFIDENCE, SPEED & TRANQUILITY

Vide infra for my further uneventful experiences.

Exitus Acta Probat.

DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
news
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Email Scanning has never given me any problems.

This fuss about the supposed evils of email scanning is a tempest in a
teapot as well as bum dope.

I keep email scanning on for both send and receive and have an extra
layer
of protection...

If others want to strip off that layer of protection that's their loss --
and their problem, when something goes wrong....

AND I don't send out infected files to my contacts.

Benefits All 'Round...

For Both Me & My Correspondents.

It's quite foolish not to email scan if your AV/IS software incorporates
that feature -- and I wouldn't want a program that did not have it.

I don't want the virus, trojan, worm, or whatever, to even GET to my hard
drive unannounced -- much less for me to open it.

Further, email scanning doesn't slow me down at all.

Emails open quickly and securely in Outlook Express, OUTLOOK, Windows
Live
Mail, Mozilla Thunderbird and Forte Agent.

DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

Further:

Banks use redundant and overlapping security systems.

CIA, DIA and NSA use redundant and overlapping security systems.

Submarines use redundant and overlapping security systems

The Federal Gold Depository at Fort Knox [think James Bond and
_Goldfinger_]
uses redundant and overlapping security systems.

The New York Fed uses redundant and overlapping security systems.

Home Security Systems should employ redundant and overlapping security
systems.

Cybernetic Systems, both institutional and domestic, should employ
redundant
and overlapping security systems -- contra the untutored wailings of
little
rampant pogues such as "winston" and Cochran....

Some rampant, semi-hemi-quasi-educated technician pogues in these
newsgroups
are very much ANTIS when it comes to Email Scanning because they have
seen
it lead to corruption of Outlook Express DBX files in the past on the
systems of equally ignorant and careless rampant pogues who do NOT
regularly
Clean Up and Compact their files.

So they rant rigidly, rapturously and craniorectally inverted about the
Terrible Evils of Email Scanning...

Amusing little fellows they are.

Suitable For Public Pillorying, Excoriation & Castigation...
--
D. Spencer Hines
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor
Veni, Vidi, Calcitravi Asinum

I feel sorry for anyone that knows you in real life.


"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
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VERY Unprofessional...

Cochran can't see the forest for the trees.

He's focused solely on the DBX corruption problem in Outlook Express,
where
he has his head firmly planted -- oblivious to other important issues.

He's a Johnny-One-Note and can only sing one song.

Prosecutio stultitiae est gravis vexatio, executio stultitiae coronat
opus.

Email Scanning does not cause me any problems in OE because I...

KEEP MY DBX FILES TIGHTLY COMPACTED.

DELETE ASH & TRASH REGULARLY & COMPACT SEVERAL TIMES PER DAY.

DON'T LET THE FILES GET TOO BIG...

THEN EMAIL SCAN WITH CONFIDENCE, SPEED & TRANQUILITY

Vide infra for my further uneventful experiences.

Exitus Acta Probat.

DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
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Email Scanning has never given me any problems.

This fuss about the supposed evils of email scanning is a tempest in a
teapot as well as bum dope.

I keep email scanning on for both send and receive and have an extra layer
of protection...

If others want to strip off that layer of protection that's their loss --
and their problem, when something goes wrong....

AND I don't send out infected files to my contacts.

Benefits All 'Round...

For Both Me & My Correspondents.

It's quite foolish not to email scan if your AV/IS software incorporates
that feature -- and I wouldn't want a program that did not have it.

I don't want the virus, trojan, worm, or whatever, to even GET to my hard
drive unannounced -- much less for me to open it.

Further, email scanning doesn't slow me down at all.

Emails open quickly and securely in Outlook Express, OUTLOOK, Windows Live
Mail, Mozilla Thunderbird and Forte Agent.

DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

Further:

Banks use redundant and overlapping security systems.

CIA, DIA and NSA use redundant and overlapping security systems.

Submarines use redundant and overlapping security systems

The Federal Gold Depository at Fort Knox [think James Bond and
_Goldfinger_]
uses redundant and overlapping security systems.

The New York Fed uses redundant and overlapping security systems.

Home Security Systems should employ redundant and overlapping security
systems.

Cybernetic Systems, both institutional and domestic, should employ
redundant
and overlapping security systems -- contra the untutored wailings of
little
rampant pogues such as "winston" and Cochran....

Some rampant, semi-hemi-quasi-educated technician pogues in these
newsgroups
are very much ANTIS when it comes to Email Scanning because they have seen
it lead to corruption of Outlook Express DBX files in the past on the
systems of equally ignorant and careless rampant pogues who do NOT
regularly
Clean Up and Compact their files.

So they rant rigidly, rapturously and craniorectally inverted about the
Terrible Evils of Email Scanning...

Amusing little fellows they are.

Suitable For Public Pillorying, Excoriation & Castigation...
--
D. Spencer Hines
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor
Veni, Vidi, Calcitravi Asinum