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  #11  
Old April 25th, 2010, 04:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.pagelayout
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Default Wrestling with Page Numbering...

From this description, your line is clearly a paragraph border. The article
to which Doug referred you
(http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/Format...tRidOfLine.htm) does explain
how to remove such borders. I discovered last night, upon further
investigation, that there is in fact a yellow (not gray) border above the
footer, and it can be removed, as Doug instructed, by turning off the Top
Border or selecting No Border. I posted to this effect last night, but
several of my posts last night and this morning have been eaten by the
server because I evidently used a word the filters don't like.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"katko" wrote in message
...
Thanks for your efforts to help. I tried that (and tried again after
reading
your post) but I'm quite sure it's not an object. I'm really familiar
with
lines that are objects, even the ones that "magically" appear when you use
repeated hyphens or underscores. This did not happen.

When I created my page numbering, I chose a form with "Accent Bar" in the
title. When I try to remove the page numbering and/or the footer, the
accent
bar remains. With "Select Objects" it acts like nothing is there. I can
click all around and on it, but nothing selects (unlike when I select an
actual object). The only way I can get its attention is to have the i-bar
and then mouse over it - it changes the cursor to two horizontal lines
with
an arrow above and below and allows me to move it vertically. This
reminds
me of sizing a row in a table.

"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

In the Editing section of the home tab of the ribbon, use the Select
pulldown and from it select the "Select Objects" item. You should then
be
able to select and delete the line.

Or, see the article "There is a line in my document that I can't delete
because I can't select it. How did it get there, and what can I do about
it?” at:

http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/Format...tRidOfLine.htm


--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com

"katko" wrote in message
...
Sorry - in my zeal to solve the mystery, I forgot some important info.
I'm
using Word 2007. I originally created my footer using (I believe) Page
Number - Bottom of Page - Accent Bar 2. I'm wondering if I need to
create
a brand new file and start over with page numbering. I'm nervous -
it's
really six documents with a LOT of formatting and work that I can't
afford
to
lose. I'd rather rig it with white boxes covering the footing, publish
to
PDF, and call it a day. Ideally, though, I would really like to do it
right
for efficient long term use.




  #12  
Old April 25th, 2010, 06:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.pagelayout
katko
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Posts: 7
Default Wrestling with Page Numbering...

My word was true. This border did NOT appear from repeated hyphens or
underscores. That was the help someone gave me earlier. This appeared when
I inserted my border. I understand you may have been frustrated when your
posts were not showing up, but there is no need to imply my word was not
true. I used to do tech support so I know the temptation to think the user
does not know what he or she is doing. It stinks to now be the user and have
that thought about you.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

From this description, if I had read it carefully, it should have been
obvious that the "object" in question is a paragraph border (as I discovered
last night when I investigated further; unfortunately, the reply I posted
then was eaten by the server). But I took you at your word when you said you
knew how to deal with the paragraph borders that "that 'magically' appear
when you use repeated hyphens or underscores."

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Fairhope, AL USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.



"katko" wrote:

Thanks for your efforts to help. I tried that (and tried again after reading
your post) but I'm quite sure it's not an object. I'm really familiar with
lines that are objects, even the ones that "magically" appear when you use
repeated hyphens or underscores. This did not happen.

When I created my page numbering, I chose a form with "Accent Bar" in the
title. When I try to remove the page numbering and/or the footer, the accent
bar remains. With "Select Objects" it acts like nothing is there. I can
click all around and on it, but nothing selects (unlike when I select an
actual object). The only way I can get its attention is to have the i-bar
and then mouse over it - it changes the cursor to two horizontal lines with
an arrow above and below and allows me to move it vertically. This reminds
me of sizing a row in a table.

"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

In the Editing section of the home tab of the ribbon, use the Select
pulldown and from it select the "Select Objects" item. You should then be
able to select and delete the line.

Or, see the article "There is a line in my document that I can't delete
because I can't select it. How did it get there, and what can I do about
it?” at:

http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/Format...tRidOfLine.htm


--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com

"katko" wrote in message
...
Sorry - in my zeal to solve the mystery, I forgot some important info.
I'm
using Word 2007. I originally created my footer using (I believe) Page
Number - Bottom of Page - Accent Bar 2. I'm wondering if I need to
create
a brand new file and start over with page numbering. I'm nervous - it's
really six documents with a LOT of formatting and work that I can't afford
to
lose. I'd rather rig it with white boxes covering the footing, publish to
PDF, and call it a day. Ideally, though, I would really like to do it
right
for efficient long term use.

  #13  
Old April 25th, 2010, 06:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.pagelayout
katko
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Posts: 7
Default Wrestling with Page Numbering...

THAT'S IT! I was looking everywhere for that - that's why I kept describing
it as being like part of a table! (Note: this is not the only place I've
posted.) It's a border! I was stuck on the "accent bar" title of the page
number I chose; I thought it was something different. I've tested with a new
document - this border is inserted automatically with the footer I chose.
Thank you thank you thank you. Curiosity no longer has to kill this KAT.

By the way...this is my first significant project on Word 2007. I have a
TON of experience with the old Word and also with PowerPoint 2007. I have
used a border, but only when I had inserted it myself - I could not remember
where/what it was. (Fatigue from this being the end of a long project did
not help.) I've hardly ever used footers at all in Word...never really had
to.

More than my document looking awesome, I learned SO much! Thank you again.

"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

With the selection in the word Page in the foote, rGo to the Home tab of the
Ribbon and from the Paragraph Section, click on the Borders pulldown and you
will see that the Top Border item has an Orange Background, indicating that
a Top Border is applied to the paragraph. Click on that item to remove the
border or select the No Border item.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com

"katko" wrote in message
...
So you inserted it and there was no light gray accent bar horizontally
above
it?! There is in mine and it's quite stubborn. Maybe it's somehow
something
set up for all footers or something. Desperate to finish this project, I
covered it with a white box and inserted the portrait page numbering on
those
landscape pages. I'm still curious to know how to get rid of it, but my
workaround should hold I guess.

As for the word page after it...thanks for making me doubt the numbering I
put in my entire book! ha ha. I have section page numbers, though, and I
think it looks pretty good. I'll run it by the others who are
proofing/providing input. Thanks for responding! I'm even more curious
now.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

I've inserted the Accent Bar 2 page number, and the only bar I see is a
pipe
character between the page number and the word "Page." I have to say I
don't
understand this format in the first place: why have the word "Page"
*after*
the number and why formatted as yellow? It's a dead-stupid design in the
first place.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"katko" wrote in message
...
Thanks for your efforts to help. I tried that (and tried again after
reading
your post) but I'm quite sure it's not an object. I'm really familiar
with
lines that are objects, even the ones that "magically" appear when you
use
repeated hyphens or underscores. This did not happen.

When I created my page numbering, I chose a form with "Accent Bar" in
the
title. When I try to remove the page numbering and/or the footer, the
accent
bar remains. With "Select Objects" it acts like nothing is there. I
can
click all around and on it, but nothing selects (unlike when I select
an
actual object). The only way I can get its attention is to have the
i-bar
and then mouse over it - it changes the cursor to two horizontal lines
with
an arrow above and below and allows me to move it vertically. This
reminds
me of sizing a row in a table.

"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

In the Editing section of the home tab of the ribbon, use the Select
pulldown and from it select the "Select Objects" item. You should
then
be
able to select and delete the line.

Or, see the article "There is a line in my document that I can't
delete
because I can't select it. How did it get there, and what can I do
about
it?” at:

http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/Format...tRidOfLine.htm


--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com

"katko" wrote in message
...
Sorry - in my zeal to solve the mystery, I forgot some important
info.
I'm
using Word 2007. I originally created my footer using (I believe)
Page
Number - Bottom of Page - Accent Bar 2. I'm wondering if I need
to
create
a brand new file and start over with page numbering. I'm nervous -
it's
really six documents with a LOT of formatting and work that I can't
afford
to
lose. I'd rather rig it with white boxes covering the footing,
publish
to
PDF, and call it a day. Ideally, though, I would really like to do
it
right
for efficient long term use.



.

  #14  
Old April 25th, 2010, 06:49 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.pagelayout
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Posts: 31,786
Default Wrestling with Page Numbering...

It's still true, however, that the article Doug referenced applies to a
"line" that can't be removed and is a border.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"katko" wrote in message
news
My word was true. This border did NOT appear from repeated hyphens or
underscores. That was the help someone gave me earlier. This appeared
when
I inserted my border. I understand you may have been frustrated when your
posts were not showing up, but there is no need to imply my word was not
true. I used to do tech support so I know the temptation to think the
user
does not know what he or she is doing. It stinks to now be the user and
have
that thought about you.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

From this description, if I had read it carefully, it should have been
obvious that the "object" in question is a paragraph border (as I
discovered
last night when I investigated further; unfortunately, the reply I posted
then was eaten by the server). But I took you at your word when you said
you
knew how to deal with the paragraph borders that "that 'magically' appear
when you use repeated hyphens or underscores."

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Fairhope, AL USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.



"katko" wrote:

Thanks for your efforts to help. I tried that (and tried again after
reading
your post) but I'm quite sure it's not an object. I'm really familiar
with
lines that are objects, even the ones that "magically" appear when you
use
repeated hyphens or underscores. This did not happen.

When I created my page numbering, I chose a form with "Accent Bar" in
the
title. When I try to remove the page numbering and/or the footer, the
accent
bar remains. With "Select Objects" it acts like nothing is there. I
can
click all around and on it, but nothing selects (unlike when I select
an
actual object). The only way I can get its attention is to have the
i-bar
and then mouse over it - it changes the cursor to two horizontal lines
with
an arrow above and below and allows me to move it vertically. This
reminds
me of sizing a row in a table.

"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

In the Editing section of the home tab of the ribbon, use the Select
pulldown and from it select the "Select Objects" item. You should
then be
able to select and delete the line.

Or, see the article "There is a line in my document that I can't
delete
because I can't select it. How did it get there, and what can I do
about
it?” at:

http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/Format...tRidOfLine.htm


--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com

"katko" wrote in message
...
Sorry - in my zeal to solve the mystery, I forgot some important
info.
I'm
using Word 2007. I originally created my footer using (I believe)
Page
Number - Bottom of Page - Accent Bar 2. I'm wondering if I need
to
create
a brand new file and start over with page numbering. I'm nervous -
it's
really six documents with a LOT of formatting and work that I can't
afford
to
lose. I'd rather rig it with white boxes covering the footing,
publish to
PDF, and call it a day. Ideally, though, I would really like to do
it
right
for efficient long term use.



  #15  
Old April 25th, 2010, 08:13 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.pagelayout
katko
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Posts: 7
Default Wrestling with Page Numbering...

I would recommend as a professional that you use a discussion group like this
to discuss and answer questions, not argue lest you give your users a bad
taste for your product.

If you want to win, okay. YOU WIN. Whatever it is you're trying to prove,
consider it proven and you are the victor. As for me...I have a book that's
done correctly now thanks to Doug. I'd rather be me.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

It's still true, however, that the article Doug referenced applies to a
"line" that can't be removed and is a border.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"katko" wrote in message
news
My word was true. This border did NOT appear from repeated hyphens or
underscores. That was the help someone gave me earlier. This appeared
when
I inserted my border. I understand you may have been frustrated when your
posts were not showing up, but there is no need to imply my word was not
true. I used to do tech support so I know the temptation to think the
user
does not know what he or she is doing. It stinks to now be the user and
have
that thought about you.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

From this description, if I had read it carefully, it should have been
obvious that the "object" in question is a paragraph border (as I
discovered
last night when I investigated further; unfortunately, the reply I posted
then was eaten by the server). But I took you at your word when you said
you
knew how to deal with the paragraph borders that "that 'magically' appear
when you use repeated hyphens or underscores."

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Fairhope, AL USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.



"katko" wrote:

Thanks for your efforts to help. I tried that (and tried again after
reading
your post) but I'm quite sure it's not an object. I'm really familiar
with
lines that are objects, even the ones that "magically" appear when you
use
repeated hyphens or underscores. This did not happen.

When I created my page numbering, I chose a form with "Accent Bar" in
the
title. When I try to remove the page numbering and/or the footer, the
accent
bar remains. With "Select Objects" it acts like nothing is there. I
can
click all around and on it, but nothing selects (unlike when I select
an
actual object). The only way I can get its attention is to have the
i-bar
and then mouse over it - it changes the cursor to two horizontal lines
with
an arrow above and below and allows me to move it vertically. This
reminds
me of sizing a row in a table.

"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

In the Editing section of the home tab of the ribbon, use the Select
pulldown and from it select the "Select Objects" item. You should
then be
able to select and delete the line.

Or, see the article "There is a line in my document that I can't
delete
because I can't select it. How did it get there, and what can I do
about
it?” at:

http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/Format...tRidOfLine.htm


--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com

"katko" wrote in message
...
Sorry - in my zeal to solve the mystery, I forgot some important
info.
I'm
using Word 2007. I originally created my footer using (I believe)
Page
Number - Bottom of Page - Accent Bar 2. I'm wondering if I need
to
create
a brand new file and start over with page numbering. I'm nervous -
it's
really six documents with a LOT of formatting and work that I can't
afford
to
lose. I'd rather rig it with white boxes covering the footing,
publish to
PDF, and call it a day. Ideally, though, I would really like to do
it
right
for efficient long term use.



.

  #16  
Old April 26th, 2010, 05:57 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.pagelayout
Graham Mayor
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Posts: 18,297
Default Wrestling with Page Numbering...

This is a user peer group! 'We' don't have a product.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



"katko" wrote in message
...
I would recommend as a professional that you use a discussion group like
this
to discuss and answer questions, not argue lest you give your users a bad
taste for your product.

If you want to win, okay. YOU WIN. Whatever it is you're trying to
prove,
consider it proven and you are the victor. As for me...I have a book
that's
done correctly now thanks to Doug. I'd rather be me.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

It's still true, however, that the article Doug referenced applies to a
"line" that can't be removed and is a border.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"katko" wrote in message
news
My word was true. This border did NOT appear from repeated hyphens or
underscores. That was the help someone gave me earlier. This appeared
when
I inserted my border. I understand you may have been frustrated when
your
posts were not showing up, but there is no need to imply my word was
not
true. I used to do tech support so I know the temptation to think the
user
does not know what he or she is doing. It stinks to now be the user
and
have
that thought about you.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

From this description, if I had read it carefully, it should have been
obvious that the "object" in question is a paragraph border (as I
discovered
last night when I investigated further; unfortunately, the reply I
posted
then was eaten by the server). But I took you at your word when you
said
you
knew how to deal with the paragraph borders that "that 'magically'
appear
when you use repeated hyphens or underscores."

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Fairhope, AL USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.



"katko" wrote:

Thanks for your efforts to help. I tried that (and tried again
after
reading
your post) but I'm quite sure it's not an object. I'm really
familiar
with
lines that are objects, even the ones that "magically" appear when
you
use
repeated hyphens or underscores. This did not happen.

When I created my page numbering, I chose a form with "Accent Bar"
in
the
title. When I try to remove the page numbering and/or the footer,
the
accent
bar remains. With "Select Objects" it acts like nothing is there.
I
can
click all around and on it, but nothing selects (unlike when I
select
an
actual object). The only way I can get its attention is to have the
i-bar
and then mouse over it - it changes the cursor to two horizontal
lines
with
an arrow above and below and allows me to move it vertically. This
reminds
me of sizing a row in a table.

"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

In the Editing section of the home tab of the ribbon, use the
Select
pulldown and from it select the "Select Objects" item. You should
then be
able to select and delete the line.

Or, see the article "There is a line in my document that I can't
delete
because I can't select it. How did it get there, and what can I do
about
it?" at:

http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/Format...tRidOfLine.htm


--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of
my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via
msnews.microsoft.com

"katko" wrote in message
...
Sorry - in my zeal to solve the mystery, I forgot some important
info.
I'm
using Word 2007. I originally created my footer using (I
believe)
Page
Number - Bottom of Page - Accent Bar 2. I'm wondering if I
need
to
create
a brand new file and start over with page numbering. I'm
nervous -
it's
really six documents with a LOT of formatting and work that I
can't
afford
to
lose. I'd rather rig it with white boxes covering the footing,
publish to
PDF, and call it a day. Ideally, though, I would really like to
do
it
right
for efficient long term use.



.



 




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