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Visio 2007 has an extra space added to every line of composed text inevery text block



 
 
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Old November 27th, 2008, 06:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.visio.general
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Default Visio 2007 has an extra space added to every line of composed

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 08:47:01 -0800, WapperDude
wrote:

This is the 1st mentioning of this problem that I'm aware of.


I've not noticed it before, either. Certainly in the shapes that I've
created that resize themselves with the text I have always added a bit
extra on top of the actual text width, like
textwidth(thetext)+5mm
or something similar.




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Old November 28th, 2008, 06:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.visio.general
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Default Visio 2007 has an extra space added to every line of composed

On Nov 27, 10:10*am, Paul Herber
wrote:
On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 08:47:01 -0800, WapperDude

wrote:
This is the 1st mentioning of this problem that I'm aware of.


I've not noticed it before, either. Certainly in the shapes that I've
created that resize themselves with the text I have always added a bit
extra on top of the actual text width, like
textwidth(thetext)+5mm
or something similar.

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DFD/SSADM for Visio * * *http://www.visio-dfd.sandrila.co.uk/


OK. Thanks very much to you both for your kind feedback and
suggestions. I would only repeat a question someone asked a few days
ago: Does anyone know how to report a bug to Microsoft (for free)?

Andy
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Old November 28th, 2008, 09:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.visio.general
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Default Visio 2007 has an extra space added to every line of composed

On Nov 28, 10:21*am, Paul Herber
wrote:
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 09:08:39 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Nov 27, 10:10*am, Paul Herber
wrote:
On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 08:47:01 -0800, WapperDude


wrote:
This is the 1st mentioning of this problem that I'm aware of.


I've not noticed it before, either. Certainly in the shapes that I've
created that resize themselves with the text I have always added a bit
extra on top of the actual text width, like
textwidth(thetext)+5mm
or something similar.


OK. Thanks very much to you both for your kind feedback and
suggestions. I would only repeat a question someone asked a few days
ago: Does anyone know how to report a bug to Microsoft (for free)?


There are a couple of Microsoft people here occasionally, probably not
before Monday though. I think it's a long holiday weekend in the USA.
Slackers!

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But, while I think fixing the bug would be a definite plus, there is
an easy fix that some people would then have to perform on some
diagrams to update them to the fixed softwa

If your diagram has shapes whose width is determined by TEXTWIDTH(),
and if it has a connector(s) glued to such a shape(s), then when the
diagram is first opened in the (prospective) fixed version of Visio
2007 or 2003 (or opened right now in Visio 2002, which didn't have the
bug) you could get a fright, because the connectors will look somewhat
DISconnected from those shapes. However, they're not really
disconnected, it's just that the shapes themselves will be drawn
narrower, given that TEXTWIDTH() now returns an accurate rather than
inflated figure. The easy fix is to press Ctl+A to select the whole
diagram, then nudge the diagram with a single press of an arrow key in
any direction. The seemingly disconnected connectors will immediately
appear reconnected, since the glue will force the connectors to be
redrawn. This is a quick diagram fix that Microsoft might want to
include in explanation-notes of the (prospective) bug fix.

Cheers
Andy
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Old December 9th, 2008, 09:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.visio.general
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Default Visio 2007 has an extra space added to every line of composed

2nd attempt at this post --

Here's an FYI that I just stumbled across:
http://blogs.msdn.com/visio/archive/...18/704811.aspx

In the content of this blog is the following comment: "Finally Visio
(starting in 2003) terminates text with a non-visible character. Note that
this final character is not reported when using the Shape.Text property, but
it is reported using Shape.Characters.Text."

It would appear that this is intentional, and not a "bug".

Wapperdude



"Paul Herber" wrote:

On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:56:55 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Has anyone noticed a bug in Visio 2007, that every line of composed
text ("theText") in every text block has a space character at the end,
which cannot be deleted (although it can be selected, and shows up
whenever the text as a whole is selected)? This makes TEXTWIDTH()
return a size that is larger than the actual composed text, by exactly
one space character's width. (I've tested this with several different
fonts and different text sizes.) The extra width at the end of the
text line shows up whether or not there is a char. return at the end
of the line.

I do not know whether this bug shows up in Visio 2003. It does NOT
show up in Visio 2002. Thus, shapes whose dimensions are dependent on
TEXTWIDTH(theText) will appear larger in Visio 2007 than they do in
Visio 2002.

Has anyone reported this bug? Does anyone know if Microsoft is working
on it?


Looks fine to me, I've just tried setting a shape's width cell to
"=textwidth(TheText)" and it sizes correctly as far as I can tell.
Have you set the text block margins to 0?


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Old December 10th, 2008, 04:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.visio.general
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Default Visio 2007 has an extra space added to every line of composed

On Dec 9, 1:36*pm, WapperDude
wrote:
2nd attempt at this post --

Here's an FYI that I just stumbled across: *http://blogs.msdn.com/visio/archive/...18/704811.aspx

In the content of this blog is the following comment: *"Finally Visio
(starting in 2003) terminates text with a non-visible character. *Note that
this final character is not reported when using the Shape.Text property, but
it is reported using Shape.Characters.Text."

It would appear that this is intentional, and not a "bug".

Wapperdude



"Paul Herber" wrote:
On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:56:55 -0800 (PST), wrote:


Has anyone noticed a bug in Visio 2007, that every line of composed
text ("theText") in every text block has a space character at the end,
which cannot be deleted (although it can be selected, and shows up
whenever the text as a whole is selected)? This makes TEXTWIDTH()
return a size that is larger than the actual composed text, by exactly
one space character's width. (I've tested this with several different
fonts and different text sizes.) The extra width at the end of the
text line shows up whether or not there is a char. return at the end
of the line.


I do not know whether this bug shows up in Visio 2003. It does NOT
show up in Visio 2002. Thus, shapes whose dimensions are dependent on
TEXTWIDTH(theText) will appear larger in Visio 2007 than they do in
Visio 2002.


Has anyone reported this bug? Does anyone know if Microsoft is working
on it?


Looks fine to me, I've just tried setting a shape's width cell to
"=textwidth(TheText)" and it sizes correctly as far as I can tell.
Have you set the text block margins to 0?


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Very interesting, Wapperdude! However, I doesn't seem to me that it
should be reported by TEXTWIDTH(). That still seems to me a bug.

Thanks much,
Andy
 




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