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  #1  
Old July 9th, 2008, 03:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.powerpoint
DavidF
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Default PPT won't play properly in PPT Viewer

For starters, I am using PPT 2007 with XP as the OS.
I have a two part presentation (two separate files). The first is an intro
loop that will play until I press an object linked to the second file. The
problem is the first file. This file is only 2 slides long and on the 1st
slide, has text that magnifies on entry, the text also has 3-D with shadow
settings and 3-D settings. The second slide has several entries that will
fade in and out, each having 3-D settings and shadows. When I play the file
in Slide Show view, it works just great and links to the 2nd file with no
problem.

The problem occurs when I package it for CD. The animation on the first
slide doesn't work at all but the other graphics are okay. Only half of the
entries on the second slide show the graphics (3-D and shadow) and the other
half doesn't. But the animation works. Also, the link on both pages work.
I went out and did the compatibility check and it gives me two issues on
about 12 different areas on the slides. They a 1. The shape and any text
in it cannot be edited when uysing earlier viersions of PowerPOint ( Slide 1
and 2) 11 occurences; and number 2. Animations on uneditable shapes may be
removed when using earlier versions of PowerPOint, (slide 1) 1 occurence.

I am saving the file as file type PowerPoint Presentation, which is also
the default setting when I check the PowerPoint Options/Save.

I wanted to see what I had to do to get it to view in the viewer and
essentially, the only thing I could do was put basic text down, no animation,
no graphics.

One other thought, I have a new PC, a Dell Precision 490, with
quad-processors, tons of memory and disk space.

Would someone please help me. I have saved files many times before using PPT
2007 with no problems and now all of a sudden I am getting this.

Thanks for any assistance anyone can give me.

David F.
  #2  
Old July 10th, 2008, 12:52 AM posted to microsoft.public.powerpoint
Lucy Thomson[_4_]
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Posts: 1,862
Default PPT won't play properly in PPT Viewer

Hi David

This is a problem with the (very poorly named) 2007 viewer - it is really
the 2003 viewer with the compatibility pack. This means when you use the
viewer or package for cd with the viewer PowerPoint 'down saves' your file
to a 97-2003 format, which converts much of the new eye-candy (SmartArt, the
new cool font stuff, etc) to images and loses animation in the process. A
work around is to convert the new pretty stuff to a picture yourself (cut -
paste special - png/jpg) and add animations to the picture. Far, far, far
from perfect but a workaround at least.

Lucy

--
Lucy Thomson
PowerPoint MVP
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au


"DavidF" wrote in message
...
For starters, I am using PPT 2007 with XP as the OS.
I have a two part presentation (two separate files). The first is an
intro
loop that will play until I press an object linked to the second file. The
problem is the first file. This file is only 2 slides long and on the 1st
slide, has text that magnifies on entry, the text also has 3-D with shadow
settings and 3-D settings. The second slide has several entries that will
fade in and out, each having 3-D settings and shadows. When I play the
file
in Slide Show view, it works just great and links to the 2nd file with no
problem.

The problem occurs when I package it for CD. The animation on the first
slide doesn't work at all but the other graphics are okay. Only half of
the
entries on the second slide show the graphics (3-D and shadow) and the
other
half doesn't. But the animation works. Also, the link on both pages
work.
I went out and did the compatibility check and it gives me two issues on
about 12 different areas on the slides. They a 1. The shape and any
text
in it cannot be edited when uysing earlier viersions of PowerPOint ( Slide
1
and 2) 11 occurences; and number 2. Animations on uneditable shapes may
be
removed when using earlier versions of PowerPOint, (slide 1) 1 occurence.

I am saving the file as file type PowerPoint Presentation, which is also
the default setting when I check the PowerPoint Options/Save.

I wanted to see what I had to do to get it to view in the viewer and
essentially, the only thing I could do was put basic text down, no
animation,
no graphics.

One other thought, I have a new PC, a Dell Precision 490, with
quad-processors, tons of memory and disk space.

Would someone please help me. I have saved files many times before using
PPT
2007 with no problems and now all of a sudden I am getting this.

Thanks for any assistance anyone can give me.

David F.



  #3  
Old July 10th, 2008, 01:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.powerpoint
DavidF
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Posts: 44
Default PPT won't play properly in PPT Viewer

Thank you Lucy for responding. I had a funny feeling that was the case. It
sure is poor that MS didn't upgrade the Viewer along with everything else. I
recorded the the intro presentation and inserted the movie into a slide and
played just fine. One problem with that though; it would not repeat, it
would only go to a blank screen. I tried the kiosk setting and the continous
loop setting and both gave me the same result. Got any suggestions on that
one?

Again, thank you for responding.

David Frazier
"Lucy Thomson" wrote:

Hi David

This is a problem with the (very poorly named) 2007 viewer - it is really
the 2003 viewer with the compatibility pack. This means when you use the
viewer or package for cd with the viewer PowerPoint 'down saves' your file
to a 97-2003 format, which converts much of the new eye-candy (SmartArt, the
new cool font stuff, etc) to images and loses animation in the process. A
work around is to convert the new pretty stuff to a picture yourself (cut -
paste special - png/jpg) and add animations to the picture. Far, far, far
from perfect but a workaround at least.

Lucy

--
Lucy Thomson
PowerPoint MVP
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au


"DavidF" wrote in message
...
For starters, I am using PPT 2007 with XP as the OS.
I have a two part presentation (two separate files). The first is an
intro
loop that will play until I press an object linked to the second file. The
problem is the first file. This file is only 2 slides long and on the 1st
slide, has text that magnifies on entry, the text also has 3-D with shadow
settings and 3-D settings. The second slide has several entries that will
fade in and out, each having 3-D settings and shadows. When I play the
file
in Slide Show view, it works just great and links to the 2nd file with no
problem.

The problem occurs when I package it for CD. The animation on the first
slide doesn't work at all but the other graphics are okay. Only half of
the
entries on the second slide show the graphics (3-D and shadow) and the
other
half doesn't. But the animation works. Also, the link on both pages
work.
I went out and did the compatibility check and it gives me two issues on
about 12 different areas on the slides. They a 1. The shape and any
text
in it cannot be edited when uysing earlier viersions of PowerPOint ( Slide
1
and 2) 11 occurences; and number 2. Animations on uneditable shapes may
be
removed when using earlier versions of PowerPOint, (slide 1) 1 occurence.

I am saving the file as file type PowerPoint Presentation, which is also
the default setting when I check the PowerPoint Options/Save.

I wanted to see what I had to do to get it to view in the viewer and
essentially, the only thing I could do was put basic text down, no
animation,
no graphics.

One other thought, I have a new PC, a Dell Precision 490, with
quad-processors, tons of memory and disk space.

Would someone please help me. I have saved files many times before using
PPT
2007 with no problems and now all of a sudden I am getting this.

Thanks for any assistance anyone can give me.

David F.




  #4  
Old July 11th, 2008, 08:03 AM posted to microsoft.public.powerpoint
Lucy Thomson[_4_]
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Posts: 1,862
Default PPT won't play properly in PPT Viewer

Hi David

The naming of the '2007' viewer is what gets my goat I must admit. I'm happy
for MS to spend their time making improvements to the programme itself
rather than the viewer but the name is a misnomer that catches many people
out.

As for your question, I'm afraid I'm neither a looping nor a movie expert.
However, I'll give it a go ;-) When you say you recorded the first
presentation and then inserted it as a movie, may I ask why? And how did you
record the movie file?

Lucy

--
Lucy Thomson
PowerPoint MVP
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au


"DavidF" wrote in message
...
Thank you Lucy for responding. I had a funny feeling that was the case.
It
sure is poor that MS didn't upgrade the Viewer along with everything else.
I
recorded the the intro presentation and inserted the movie into a slide
and
played just fine. One problem with that though; it would not repeat, it
would only go to a blank screen. I tried the kiosk setting and the
continous
loop setting and both gave me the same result. Got any suggestions on
that
one?

Again, thank you for responding.

David Frazier
"Lucy Thomson" wrote:

Hi David

This is a problem with the (very poorly named) 2007 viewer - it is really
the 2003 viewer with the compatibility pack. This means when you use the
viewer or package for cd with the viewer PowerPoint 'down saves' your
file
to a 97-2003 format, which converts much of the new eye-candy (SmartArt,
the
new cool font stuff, etc) to images and loses animation in the process. A
work around is to convert the new pretty stuff to a picture yourself
(cut -
paste special - png/jpg) and add animations to the picture. Far, far,
far
from perfect but a workaround at least.

Lucy

--
Lucy Thomson
PowerPoint MVP
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au


"DavidF" wrote in message
...
For starters, I am using PPT 2007 with XP as the OS.
I have a two part presentation (two separate files). The first is an
intro
loop that will play until I press an object linked to the second file.
The
problem is the first file. This file is only 2 slides long and on the
1st
slide, has text that magnifies on entry, the text also has 3-D with
shadow
settings and 3-D settings. The second slide has several entries that
will
fade in and out, each having 3-D settings and shadows. When I play the
file
in Slide Show view, it works just great and links to the 2nd file with
no
problem.

The problem occurs when I package it for CD. The animation on the
first
slide doesn't work at all but the other graphics are okay. Only half
of
the
entries on the second slide show the graphics (3-D and shadow) and the
other
half doesn't. But the animation works. Also, the link on both pages
work.
I went out and did the compatibility check and it gives me two issues
on
about 12 different areas on the slides. They a 1. The shape and
any
text
in it cannot be edited when uysing earlier viersions of PowerPOint (
Slide
1
and 2) 11 occurences; and number 2. Animations on uneditable shapes
may
be
removed when using earlier versions of PowerPOint, (slide 1) 1
occurence.

I am saving the file as file type PowerPoint Presentation, which is
also
the default setting when I check the PowerPoint Options/Save.

I wanted to see what I had to do to get it to view in the viewer and
essentially, the only thing I could do was put basic text down, no
animation,
no graphics.

One other thought, I have a new PC, a Dell Precision 490, with
quad-processors, tons of memory and disk space.

Would someone please help me. I have saved files many times before
using
PPT
2007 with no problems and now all of a sudden I am getting this.

Thanks for any assistance anyone can give me.

David F.






  #5  
Old July 11th, 2008, 02:05 PM posted to microsoft.public.powerpoint
DavidF
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Posts: 44
Default PPT won't play properly in PPT Viewer

Hi Lucy,
I am giving 3 presentations in one day at a conference and I want the loop
to play while people come into the room. It is just two slides, one being
the titile with some text graphics and some animation that magnifies the
title and the floats out of the screen. The second slide is where various
words appear and disappear one right after the other using the fade in/out
animation. At then end of that slide, it goes back to the 1st slide. This
works fine when playing the loop in PowerPoint.

I recorded the slide-show using software called Camtasia Studio 5.0. It is
an application that centers around recording, editing and sharing of screen
video content. Its a great piece of software and I use it to produce
internet training videos. If you are interested in seeing it, I'll send you
our website so you can see a video I completed.

Back to the problem, I record the slide show as it happens and save it off
(publish) as an .avi file. I then go to the Insert tab and select Movie in
the Media Clips group and select the video to insert it into the slide. You
can then double-click on the slide and it will play or play it in the
slideshow. The problem is that it will play the first time through, but then
it will go to a black screen and stop after the last slide. That is where I
am stumped.

Also, I experienced another problem with the PPT Viewer yesterday. I am so
sick of this thing I feel like chunking it all out the window. I have some
text slides inter-mixed with various video-slides and I noticed yesterday
after running the Package for CD, that when the text slides come in, the
first letter of each line is missing. When you pull up the original slide,
the one used to package it, it is fine, no problems. It only occurs when
using the Viewer.

I moved all the text slides to the front of the slide show and in front of
all the videos slides and it did the same thing. Really frustrating.

I appreciate your time and any help/wisdom that you can give me.

David Frazier

"Lucy Thomson" wrote:

Hi David

The naming of the '2007' viewer is what gets my goat I must admit. I'm happy
for MS to spend their time making improvements to the programme itself
rather than the viewer but the name is a misnomer that catches many people
out.

As for your question, I'm afraid I'm neither a looping nor a movie expert.
However, I'll give it a go ;-) When you say you recorded the first
presentation and then inserted it as a movie, may I ask why? And how did you
record the movie file?

Lucy

--
Lucy Thomson
PowerPoint MVP
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au


"DavidF" wrote in message
...
Thank you Lucy for responding. I had a funny feeling that was the case.
It
sure is poor that MS didn't upgrade the Viewer along with everything else.
I
recorded the the intro presentation and inserted the movie into a slide
and
played just fine. One problem with that though; it would not repeat, it
would only go to a blank screen. I tried the kiosk setting and the
continous
loop setting and both gave me the same result. Got any suggestions on
that
one?

Again, thank you for responding.

David Frazier
"Lucy Thomson" wrote:

Hi David

This is a problem with the (very poorly named) 2007 viewer - it is really
the 2003 viewer with the compatibility pack. This means when you use the
viewer or package for cd with the viewer PowerPoint 'down saves' your
file
to a 97-2003 format, which converts much of the new eye-candy (SmartArt,
the
new cool font stuff, etc) to images and loses animation in the process. A
work around is to convert the new pretty stuff to a picture yourself
(cut -
paste special - png/jpg) and add animations to the picture. Far, far,
far
from perfect but a workaround at least.

Lucy

--
Lucy Thomson
PowerPoint MVP
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au


"DavidF" wrote in message
...
For starters, I am using PPT 2007 with XP as the OS.
I have a two part presentation (two separate files). The first is an
intro
loop that will play until I press an object linked to the second file.
The
problem is the first file. This file is only 2 slides long and on the
1st
slide, has text that magnifies on entry, the text also has 3-D with
shadow
settings and 3-D settings. The second slide has several entries that
will
fade in and out, each having 3-D settings and shadows. When I play the
file
in Slide Show view, it works just great and links to the 2nd file with
no
problem.

The problem occurs when I package it for CD. The animation on the
first
slide doesn't work at all but the other graphics are okay. Only half
of
the
entries on the second slide show the graphics (3-D and shadow) and the
other
half doesn't. But the animation works. Also, the link on both pages
work.
I went out and did the compatibility check and it gives me two issues
on
about 12 different areas on the slides. They a 1. The shape and
any
text
in it cannot be edited when uysing earlier viersions of PowerPOint (
Slide
1
and 2) 11 occurences; and number 2. Animations on uneditable shapes
may
be
removed when using earlier versions of PowerPOint, (slide 1) 1
occurence.

I am saving the file as file type PowerPoint Presentation, which is
also
the default setting when I check the PowerPoint Options/Save.

I wanted to see what I had to do to get it to view in the viewer and
essentially, the only thing I could do was put basic text down, no
animation,
no graphics.

One other thought, I have a new PC, a Dell Precision 490, with
quad-processors, tons of memory and disk space.

Would someone please help me. I have saved files many times before
using
PPT
2007 with no problems and now all of a sudden I am getting this.

Thanks for any assistance anyone can give me.

David F.






  #6  
Old July 13th, 2008, 04:42 AM posted to microsoft.public.powerpoint
Lucy Thomson[_4_]
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Posts: 1,862
Default PPT won't play properly in PPT Viewer

Hi David

OK. I think you would be better off using the method described here for
doing the looping of the first 2 slides:
http://www.awesomebackgrounds.com/powerpointlooping.htm
Avoiding video wherever possible is a good idea in my book :-)

You are completely correct - Camtasia rocks ;-)

Hmmmm, problem of the first letter going missing when package for CD is
used - don't know about that one. I would imagine it is related to the
down-saving to 97-2003 format that happens when using package for CD &
viewer. Tell me about the slide - how was it built, is the first letter in
its own textbox, etc.

Lucy

--
Lucy Thomson
PowerPoint MVP
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au


"DavidF" wrote in message
...
Hi Lucy,
I am giving 3 presentations in one day at a conference and I want the loop
to play while people come into the room. It is just two slides, one
being
the titile with some text graphics and some animation that magnifies the
title and the floats out of the screen. The second slide is where various
words appear and disappear one right after the other using the fade in/out
animation. At then end of that slide, it goes back to the 1st slide.
This
works fine when playing the loop in PowerPoint.

I recorded the slide-show using software called Camtasia Studio 5.0. It
is
an application that centers around recording, editing and sharing of
screen
video content. Its a great piece of software and I use it to produce
internet training videos. If you are interested in seeing it, I'll send
you
our website so you can see a video I completed.

Back to the problem, I record the slide show as it happens and save it off
(publish) as an .avi file. I then go to the Insert tab and select Movie
in
the Media Clips group and select the video to insert it into the slide.
You
can then double-click on the slide and it will play or play it in the
slideshow. The problem is that it will play the first time through, but
then
it will go to a black screen and stop after the last slide. That is where
I
am stumped.

Also, I experienced another problem with the PPT Viewer yesterday. I am
so
sick of this thing I feel like chunking it all out the window. I have
some
text slides inter-mixed with various video-slides and I noticed yesterday
after running the Package for CD, that when the text slides come in, the
first letter of each line is missing. When you pull up the original
slide,
the one used to package it, it is fine, no problems. It only occurs when
using the Viewer.

I moved all the text slides to the front of the slide show and in front of
all the videos slides and it did the same thing. Really frustrating.

I appreciate your time and any help/wisdom that you can give me.

David Frazier

"Lucy Thomson" wrote:

Hi David

The naming of the '2007' viewer is what gets my goat I must admit. I'm
happy
for MS to spend their time making improvements to the programme itself
rather than the viewer but the name is a misnomer that catches many
people
out.

As for your question, I'm afraid I'm neither a looping nor a movie
expert.
However, I'll give it a go ;-) When you say you recorded the first
presentation and then inserted it as a movie, may I ask why? And how did
you
record the movie file?

Lucy

--
Lucy Thomson
PowerPoint MVP
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au


"DavidF" wrote in message
...
Thank you Lucy for responding. I had a funny feeling that was the
case.
It
sure is poor that MS didn't upgrade the Viewer along with everything
else.
I
recorded the the intro presentation and inserted the movie into a slide
and
played just fine. One problem with that though; it would not repeat,
it
would only go to a blank screen. I tried the kiosk setting and the
continous
loop setting and both gave me the same result. Got any suggestions on
that
one?

Again, thank you for responding.

David Frazier
"Lucy Thomson" wrote:

Hi David

This is a problem with the (very poorly named) 2007 viewer - it is
really
the 2003 viewer with the compatibility pack. This means when you use
the
viewer or package for cd with the viewer PowerPoint 'down saves' your
file
to a 97-2003 format, which converts much of the new eye-candy
(SmartArt,
the
new cool font stuff, etc) to images and loses animation in the
process. A
work around is to convert the new pretty stuff to a picture yourself
(cut -
paste special - png/jpg) and add animations to the picture. Far, far,
far
from perfect but a workaround at least.

Lucy

--
Lucy Thomson
PowerPoint MVP
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au


"DavidF" wrote in message
...
For starters, I am using PPT 2007 with XP as the OS.
I have a two part presentation (two separate files). The first is
an
intro
loop that will play until I press an object linked to the second
file.
The
problem is the first file. This file is only 2 slides long and on
the
1st
slide, has text that magnifies on entry, the text also has 3-D with
shadow
settings and 3-D settings. The second slide has several entries
that
will
fade in and out, each having 3-D settings and shadows. When I play
the
file
in Slide Show view, it works just great and links to the 2nd file
with
no
problem.

The problem occurs when I package it for CD. The animation on the
first
slide doesn't work at all but the other graphics are okay. Only
half
of
the
entries on the second slide show the graphics (3-D and shadow) and
the
other
half doesn't. But the animation works. Also, the link on both
pages
work.
I went out and did the compatibility check and it gives me two
issues
on
about 12 different areas on the slides. They a 1. The shape and
any
text
in it cannot be edited when uysing earlier viersions of PowerPOint (
Slide
1
and 2) 11 occurences; and number 2. Animations on uneditable shapes
may
be
removed when using earlier versions of PowerPOint, (slide 1) 1
occurence.

I am saving the file as file type PowerPoint Presentation, which is
also
the default setting when I check the PowerPoint Options/Save.

I wanted to see what I had to do to get it to view in the viewer and
essentially, the only thing I could do was put basic text down, no
animation,
no graphics.

One other thought, I have a new PC, a Dell Precision 490, with
quad-processors, tons of memory and disk space.

Would someone please help me. I have saved files many times before
using
PPT
2007 with no problems and now all of a sudden I am getting this.

Thanks for any assistance anyone can give me.

David F.








  #7  
Old July 14th, 2008, 07:55 PM posted to microsoft.public.powerpoint
DavidF
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Posts: 44
Default PPT won't play properly in PPT Viewer

Hi Lucy,

I got the PowerPoint working using the procedure you suggested. A lot to do
for something that should have already been done to begin with, but it does
work. Thank you.

As far as the dropping letters, the slide was built in PowerPoint 2007 and
there were 3 bullets. The first bullet is below and the other 2 bullets were
single line entries. Each bullet was built inside a Text box with the
exception of the first one and the entire entry was built in 1 text box. In
the example below, the M is missing of the major bullet, the 2nd 3rd and 4th
lines are complete. In the other 2 major bullets, the P (for Personal) and
O (Outlook) were also missing the and the first letter. Every text slide

I had was like that. It makes no sense. I checked the margins and box
positions and everything looks fine.

I agree, it has to be the downward formating from PPT 2007 to the 2003
viewer. Nothing else makes any sense.

Let me know if you come up with anyting. I really appreciate your help.

David Frazier

Microsoft
Seven Ways to Organize Your Email
To download a copy go to
http://www.microsoft.com/atwork/mana...mailtools.mspx





"Lucy Thomson" wrote:

Hi David

OK. I think you would be better off using the method described here for
doing the looping of the first 2 slides:
http://www.awesomebackgrounds.com/powerpointlooping.htm
Avoiding video wherever possible is a good idea in my book :-)

You are completely correct - Camtasia rocks ;-)

Hmmmm, problem of the first letter going missing when package for CD is
used - don't know about that one. I would imagine it is related to the
down-saving to 97-2003 format that happens when using package for CD &
viewer. Tell me about the slide - how was it built, is the first letter in
its own textbox, etc.

Lucy

--
Lucy Thomson
PowerPoint MVP
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au


"DavidF" wrote in message
...
Hi Lucy,
I am giving 3 presentations in one day at a conference and I want the loop
to play while people come into the room. It is just two slides, one
being
the titile with some text graphics and some animation that magnifies the
title and the floats out of the screen. The second slide is where various
words appear and disappear one right after the other using the fade in/out
animation. At then end of that slide, it goes back to the 1st slide.
This
works fine when playing the loop in PowerPoint.

I recorded the slide-show using software called Camtasia Studio 5.0. It
is
an application that centers around recording, editing and sharing of
screen
video content. Its a great piece of software and I use it to produce
internet training videos. If you are interested in seeing it, I'll send
you
our website so you can see a video I completed.

Back to the problem, I record the slide show as it happens and save it off
(publish) as an .avi file. I then go to the Insert tab and select Movie
in
the Media Clips group and select the video to insert it into the slide.
You
can then double-click on the slide and it will play or play it in the
slideshow. The problem is that it will play the first time through, but
then
it will go to a black screen and stop after the last slide. That is where
I
am stumped.

Also, I experienced another problem with the PPT Viewer yesterday. I am
so
sick of this thing I feel like chunking it all out the window. I have
some
text slides inter-mixed with various video-slides and I noticed yesterday
after running the Package for CD, that when the text slides come in, the
first letter of each line is missing. When you pull up the original
slide,
the one used to package it, it is fine, no problems. It only occurs when
using the Viewer.

I moved all the text slides to the front of the slide show and in front of
all the videos slides and it did the same thing. Really frustrating.

I appreciate your time and any help/wisdom that you can give me.

David Frazier

"Lucy Thomson" wrote:

Hi David

The naming of the '2007' viewer is what gets my goat I must admit. I'm
happy
for MS to spend their time making improvements to the programme itself
rather than the viewer but the name is a misnomer that catches many
people
out.

As for your question, I'm afraid I'm neither a looping nor a movie
expert.
However, I'll give it a go ;-) When you say you recorded the first
presentation and then inserted it as a movie, may I ask why? And how did
you
record the movie file?

Lucy

--
Lucy Thomson
PowerPoint MVP
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au


"DavidF" wrote in message
...
Thank you Lucy for responding. I had a funny feeling that was the
case.
It
sure is poor that MS didn't upgrade the Viewer along with everything
else.
I
recorded the the intro presentation and inserted the movie into a slide
and
played just fine. One problem with that though; it would not repeat,
it
would only go to a blank screen. I tried the kiosk setting and the
continous
loop setting and both gave me the same result. Got any suggestions on
that
one?

Again, thank you for responding.

David Frazier
"Lucy Thomson" wrote:

Hi David

This is a problem with the (very poorly named) 2007 viewer - it is
really
the 2003 viewer with the compatibility pack. This means when you use
the
viewer or package for cd with the viewer PowerPoint 'down saves' your
file
to a 97-2003 format, which converts much of the new eye-candy
(SmartArt,
the
new cool font stuff, etc) to images and loses animation in the
process. A
work around is to convert the new pretty stuff to a picture yourself
(cut -
paste special - png/jpg) and add animations to the picture. Far, far,
far
from perfect but a workaround at least.

Lucy

--
Lucy Thomson
PowerPoint MVP
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au


"DavidF" wrote in message
...
For starters, I am using PPT 2007 with XP as the OS.
I have a two part presentation (two separate files). The first is
an
intro
loop that will play until I press an object linked to the second
file.
The
problem is the first file. This file is only 2 slides long and on
the
1st
slide, has text that magnifies on entry, the text also has 3-D with
shadow
settings and 3-D settings. The second slide has several entries
that
will
fade in and out, each having 3-D settings and shadows. When I play
the
file
in Slide Show view, it works just great and links to the 2nd file
with
no
problem.

The problem occurs when I package it for CD. The animation on the
first
slide doesn't work at all but the other graphics are okay. Only
half
of
the
entries on the second slide show the graphics (3-D and shadow) and
the
other
half doesn't. But the animation works. Also, the link on both
pages
work.
I went out and did the compatibility check and it gives me two
issues
on
about 12 different areas on the slides. They a 1. The shape and
any
text
in it cannot be edited when uysing earlier viersions of PowerPOint (
Slide
1
and 2) 11 occurences; and number 2. Animations on uneditable shapes
may
be
removed when using earlier versions of PowerPOint, (slide 1) 1
occurence.

I am saving the file as file type PowerPoint Presentation, which is
also
the default setting when I check the PowerPoint Options/Save.

I wanted to see what I had to do to get it to view in the viewer and
essentially, the only thing I could do was put basic text down, no
animation,
no graphics.

One other thought, I have a new PC, a Dell Precision 490, with
quad-processors, tons of memory and disk space.

Would someone please help me. I have saved files many times before
using
PPT
2007 with no problems and now all of a sudden I am getting this.

Thanks for any assistance anyone can give me.

David F.









  #8  
Old July 15th, 2008, 12:02 AM posted to microsoft.public.powerpoint
Lucy Thomson[_4_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,862
Default PPT won't play properly in PPT Viewer

Hi David

Do you want to send me a copy of the slide and I'll have a look at it? lucy
@ aneasiesrtomorrow . com . au

Lucy

--
Lucy Thomson
PowerPoint MVP
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au


"DavidF" wrote in message
...
Hi Lucy,

I got the PowerPoint working using the procedure you suggested. A lot to
do
for something that should have already been done to begin with, but it
does
work. Thank you.

As far as the dropping letters, the slide was built in PowerPoint 2007 and
there were 3 bullets. The first bullet is below and the other 2 bullets
were
single line entries. Each bullet was built inside a Text box with the
exception of the first one and the entire entry was built in 1 text box.
In
the example below, the M is missing of the major bullet, the 2nd 3rd and
4th
lines are complete. In the other 2 major bullets, the P (for Personal)
and
O (Outlook) were also missing the and the first letter. Every text
slide

I had was like that. It makes no sense. I checked the margins and box
positions and everything looks fine.

I agree, it has to be the downward formating from PPT 2007 to the 2003
viewer. Nothing else makes any sense.

Let me know if you come up with anyting. I really appreciate your help.

David Frazier

Microsoft
Seven Ways to Organize Your Email
To download a copy go to
http://www.microsoft.com/atwork/mana...mailtools.mspx





"Lucy Thomson" wrote:

Hi David

OK. I think you would be better off using the method described here for
doing the looping of the first 2 slides:
http://www.awesomebackgrounds.com/powerpointlooping.htm
Avoiding video wherever possible is a good idea in my book :-)

You are completely correct - Camtasia rocks ;-)

Hmmmm, problem of the first letter going missing when package for CD is
used - don't know about that one. I would imagine it is related to the
down-saving to 97-2003 format that happens when using package for CD &
viewer. Tell me about the slide - how was it built, is the first letter
in
its own textbox, etc.

Lucy

--
Lucy Thomson
PowerPoint MVP
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au


"DavidF" wrote in message
...
Hi Lucy,
I am giving 3 presentations in one day at a conference and I want the
loop
to play while people come into the room. It is just two slides, one
being
the titile with some text graphics and some animation that magnifies
the
title and the floats out of the screen. The second slide is where
various
words appear and disappear one right after the other using the fade
in/out
animation. At then end of that slide, it goes back to the 1st slide.
This
works fine when playing the loop in PowerPoint.

I recorded the slide-show using software called Camtasia Studio 5.0.
It
is
an application that centers around recording, editing and sharing of
screen
video content. Its a great piece of software and I use it to produce
internet training videos. If you are interested in seeing it, I'll
send
you
our website so you can see a video I completed.

Back to the problem, I record the slide show as it happens and save it
off
(publish) as an .avi file. I then go to the Insert tab and select
Movie
in
the Media Clips group and select the video to insert it into the slide.
You
can then double-click on the slide and it will play or play it in the
slideshow. The problem is that it will play the first time through,
but
then
it will go to a black screen and stop after the last slide. That is
where
I
am stumped.

Also, I experienced another problem with the PPT Viewer yesterday. I
am
so
sick of this thing I feel like chunking it all out the window. I have
some
text slides inter-mixed with various video-slides and I noticed
yesterday
after running the Package for CD, that when the text slides come in,
the
first letter of each line is missing. When you pull up the original
slide,
the one used to package it, it is fine, no problems. It only occurs
when
using the Viewer.

I moved all the text slides to the front of the slide show and in front
of
all the videos slides and it did the same thing. Really frustrating.

I appreciate your time and any help/wisdom that you can give me.

David Frazier

"Lucy Thomson" wrote:

Hi David

The naming of the '2007' viewer is what gets my goat I must admit. I'm
happy
for MS to spend their time making improvements to the programme itself
rather than the viewer but the name is a misnomer that catches many
people
out.

As for your question, I'm afraid I'm neither a looping nor a movie
expert.
However, I'll give it a go ;-) When you say you recorded the first
presentation and then inserted it as a movie, may I ask why? And how
did
you
record the movie file?

Lucy

--
Lucy Thomson
PowerPoint MVP
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au


"DavidF" wrote in message
...
Thank you Lucy for responding. I had a funny feeling that was the
case.
It
sure is poor that MS didn't upgrade the Viewer along with everything
else.
I
recorded the the intro presentation and inserted the movie into a
slide
and
played just fine. One problem with that though; it would not
repeat,
it
would only go to a blank screen. I tried the kiosk setting and the
continous
loop setting and both gave me the same result. Got any suggestions
on
that
one?

Again, thank you for responding.

David Frazier
"Lucy Thomson" wrote:

Hi David

This is a problem with the (very poorly named) 2007 viewer - it is
really
the 2003 viewer with the compatibility pack. This means when you
use
the
viewer or package for cd with the viewer PowerPoint 'down saves'
your
file
to a 97-2003 format, which converts much of the new eye-candy
(SmartArt,
the
new cool font stuff, etc) to images and loses animation in the
process. A
work around is to convert the new pretty stuff to a picture
yourself
(cut -
paste special - png/jpg) and add animations to the picture. Far,
far,
far
from perfect but a workaround at least.

Lucy

--
Lucy Thomson
PowerPoint MVP
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au


"DavidF" wrote in message
...
For starters, I am using PPT 2007 with XP as the OS.
I have a two part presentation (two separate files). The first
is
an
intro
loop that will play until I press an object linked to the second
file.
The
problem is the first file. This file is only 2 slides long and
on
the
1st
slide, has text that magnifies on entry, the text also has 3-D
with
shadow
settings and 3-D settings. The second slide has several entries
that
will
fade in and out, each having 3-D settings and shadows. When I
play
the
file
in Slide Show view, it works just great and links to the 2nd file
with
no
problem.

The problem occurs when I package it for CD. The animation on
the
first
slide doesn't work at all but the other graphics are okay. Only
half
of
the
entries on the second slide show the graphics (3-D and shadow)
and
the
other
half doesn't. But the animation works. Also, the link on both
pages
work.
I went out and did the compatibility check and it gives me two
issues
on
about 12 different areas on the slides. They a 1. The shape
and
any
text
in it cannot be edited when uysing earlier viersions of
PowerPOint (
Slide
1
and 2) 11 occurences; and number 2. Animations on uneditable
shapes
may
be
removed when using earlier versions of PowerPOint, (slide 1) 1
occurence.

I am saving the file as file type PowerPoint Presentation, which
is
also
the default setting when I check the PowerPoint Options/Save.

I wanted to see what I had to do to get it to view in the viewer
and
essentially, the only thing I could do was put basic text down,
no
animation,
no graphics.

One other thought, I have a new PC, a Dell Precision 490, with
quad-processors, tons of memory and disk space.

Would someone please help me. I have saved files many times
before
using
PPT
2007 with no problems and now all of a sudden I am getting this.

Thanks for any assistance anyone can give me.

David F.











  #9  
Old July 15th, 2008, 01:07 PM posted to microsoft.public.powerpoint
DavidF
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 44
Default PPT won't play properly in PPT Viewer

Hi Lucy,
I'll do a couple of things so you can see what is happening. I'll packaga
the slide show and see if it will go. It is only 28 slides but I'll see if I
can get it small enough to send out. If not, I will forget that part, but at
the very least will send a couple of the original slides so you can see them.
I will try and get those out today. Trying to get finalized for the
conference I am speaking at and have a class to teach so I am a little busy
but will get it today or tomorrow for sure. Again, thank you for your help.

David Frazier

"Lucy Thomson" wrote:

Hi David

Do you want to send me a copy of the slide and I'll have a look at it? lucy
@ aneasiesrtomorrow . com . au

Lucy

--
Lucy Thomson
PowerPoint MVP
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au


"DavidF" wrote in message
...
Hi Lucy,

I got the PowerPoint working using the procedure you suggested. A lot to
do
for something that should have already been done to begin with, but it
does
work. Thank you.

As far as the dropping letters, the slide was built in PowerPoint 2007 and
there were 3 bullets. The first bullet is below and the other 2 bullets
were
single line entries. Each bullet was built inside a Text box with the
exception of the first one and the entire entry was built in 1 text box.
In
the example below, the M is missing of the major bullet, the 2nd 3rd and
4th
lines are complete. In the other 2 major bullets, the P (for Personal)
and
O (Outlook) were also missing the and the first letter. Every text
slide

I had was like that. It makes no sense. I checked the margins and box
positions and everything looks fine.

I agree, it has to be the downward formating from PPT 2007 to the 2003
viewer. Nothing else makes any sense.

Let me know if you come up with anyting. I really appreciate your help.

David Frazier

Microsoft
Seven Ways to Organize Your Email
To download a copy go to
http://www.microsoft.com/atwork/mana...mailtools.mspx





"Lucy Thomson" wrote:

Hi David

OK. I think you would be better off using the method described here for
doing the looping of the first 2 slides:
http://www.awesomebackgrounds.com/powerpointlooping.htm
Avoiding video wherever possible is a good idea in my book :-)

You are completely correct - Camtasia rocks ;-)

Hmmmm, problem of the first letter going missing when package for CD is
used - don't know about that one. I would imagine it is related to the
down-saving to 97-2003 format that happens when using package for CD &
viewer. Tell me about the slide - how was it built, is the first letter
in
its own textbox, etc.

Lucy

--
Lucy Thomson
PowerPoint MVP
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au


"DavidF" wrote in message
...
Hi Lucy,
I am giving 3 presentations in one day at a conference and I want the
loop
to play while people come into the room. It is just two slides, one
being
the titile with some text graphics and some animation that magnifies
the
title and the floats out of the screen. The second slide is where
various
words appear and disappear one right after the other using the fade
in/out
animation. At then end of that slide, it goes back to the 1st slide.
This
works fine when playing the loop in PowerPoint.

I recorded the slide-show using software called Camtasia Studio 5.0.
It
is
an application that centers around recording, editing and sharing of
screen
video content. Its a great piece of software and I use it to produce
internet training videos. If you are interested in seeing it, I'll
send
you
our website so you can see a video I completed.

Back to the problem, I record the slide show as it happens and save it
off
(publish) as an .avi file. I then go to the Insert tab and select
Movie
in
the Media Clips group and select the video to insert it into the slide.
You
can then double-click on the slide and it will play or play it in the
slideshow. The problem is that it will play the first time through,
but
then
it will go to a black screen and stop after the last slide. That is
where
I
am stumped.

Also, I experienced another problem with the PPT Viewer yesterday. I
am
so
sick of this thing I feel like chunking it all out the window. I have
some
text slides inter-mixed with various video-slides and I noticed
yesterday
after running the Package for CD, that when the text slides come in,
the
first letter of each line is missing. When you pull up the original
slide,
the one used to package it, it is fine, no problems. It only occurs
when
using the Viewer.

I moved all the text slides to the front of the slide show and in front
of
all the videos slides and it did the same thing. Really frustrating.

I appreciate your time and any help/wisdom that you can give me.

David Frazier

"Lucy Thomson" wrote:

Hi David

The naming of the '2007' viewer is what gets my goat I must admit. I'm
happy
for MS to spend their time making improvements to the programme itself
rather than the viewer but the name is a misnomer that catches many
people
out.

As for your question, I'm afraid I'm neither a looping nor a movie
expert.
However, I'll give it a go ;-) When you say you recorded the first
presentation and then inserted it as a movie, may I ask why? And how
did
you
record the movie file?

Lucy

--
Lucy Thomson
PowerPoint MVP
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au


"DavidF" wrote in message
...
Thank you Lucy for responding. I had a funny feeling that was the
case.
It
sure is poor that MS didn't upgrade the Viewer along with everything
else.
I
recorded the the intro presentation and inserted the movie into a
slide
and
played just fine. One problem with that though; it would not
repeat,
it
would only go to a blank screen. I tried the kiosk setting and the
continous
loop setting and both gave me the same result. Got any suggestions
on
that
one?

Again, thank you for responding.

David Frazier
"Lucy Thomson" wrote:

Hi David

This is a problem with the (very poorly named) 2007 viewer - it is
really
the 2003 viewer with the compatibility pack. This means when you
use
the
viewer or package for cd with the viewer PowerPoint 'down saves'
your
file
to a 97-2003 format, which converts much of the new eye-candy
(SmartArt,
the
new cool font stuff, etc) to images and loses animation in the
process. A
work around is to convert the new pretty stuff to a picture
yourself
(cut -
paste special - png/jpg) and add animations to the picture. Far,
far,
far
from perfect but a workaround at least.

Lucy

--
Lucy Thomson
PowerPoint MVP
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au


"DavidF" wrote in message
...
For starters, I am using PPT 2007 with XP as the OS.
I have a two part presentation (two separate files). The first
is
an
intro
loop that will play until I press an object linked to the second
file.
The
problem is the first file. This file is only 2 slides long and
on
the
1st
slide, has text that magnifies on entry, the text also has 3-D
with
shadow
settings and 3-D settings. The second slide has several entries
that
will
fade in and out, each having 3-D settings and shadows. When I
play
the
file
in Slide Show view, it works just great and links to the 2nd file
with
no
problem.

The problem occurs when I package it for CD. The animation on
the
first
slide doesn't work at all but the other graphics are okay. Only
half
of
the
entries on the second slide show the graphics (3-D and shadow)
and
the
other
half doesn't. But the animation works. Also, the link on both
pages
work.
I went out and did the compatibility check and it gives me two
issues
on
about 12 different areas on the slides. They a 1. The shape
and
any
text
in it cannot be edited when uysing earlier viersions of
PowerPOint (
Slide
1
and 2) 11 occurences; and number 2. Animations on uneditable
shapes
may
be
removed when using earlier versions of PowerPOint, (slide 1) 1
occurence.

I am saving the file as file type PowerPoint Presentation, which
is
also
the default setting when I check the PowerPoint Options/Save.

  #10  
Old July 15th, 2008, 06:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.powerpoint
DavidF
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 44
Default PPT won't play properly in PPT Viewer

Lucy,
Just curious, Why do you say to avoid using videos in slide presentations?
I have found them very useful. I started using video about 8 months ago when
I was asked to do a seminar on How to Manage Your Outlook. I demo'd all the
ideas using video. I captured them on my pc and edited them for content.
Then sent the video to my pc and kept a backup on a CD. Showing a static
slide to a group is so boring to me. I wanted to do the presentation using
my live outlook back at my office, about 200 miles away, but was really
worried about connectivity, response time, the usual networking stuff. So
that is when I decided to capture each topic to video. I can click on it to
start it, click on it to pause it, or click the slide itself to go ot the
next slide. This way, I didn't have to depend on a network to make it work.
I got it all with me. Several people aroudn here liked the idea themslelves
and now that is how they do their own demos. So I was just curious why you
don't like it.

David F

"Lucy Thomson" wrote:

Hi David

Do you want to send me a copy of the slide and I'll have a look at it? lucy
@ aneasiesrtomorrow . com . au

Lucy

--
Lucy Thomson
PowerPoint MVP
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au


"DavidF" wrote in message
...
Hi Lucy,

I got the PowerPoint working using the procedure you suggested. A lot to
do
for something that should have already been done to begin with, but it
does
work. Thank you.

As far as the dropping letters, the slide was built in PowerPoint 2007 and
there were 3 bullets. The first bullet is below and the other 2 bullets
were
single line entries. Each bullet was built inside a Text box with the
exception of the first one and the entire entry was built in 1 text box.
In
the example below, the M is missing of the major bullet, the 2nd 3rd and
4th
lines are complete. In the other 2 major bullets, the P (for Personal)
and
O (Outlook) were also missing the and the first letter. Every text
slide

I had was like that. It makes no sense. I checked the margins and box
positions and everything looks fine.

I agree, it has to be the downward formating from PPT 2007 to the 2003
viewer. Nothing else makes any sense.

Let me know if you come up with anyting. I really appreciate your help.

David Frazier

Microsoft
Seven Ways to Organize Your Email
To download a copy go to
http://www.microsoft.com/atwork/mana...mailtools.mspx





"Lucy Thomson" wrote:

Hi David

OK. I think you would be better off using the method described here for
doing the looping of the first 2 slides:
http://www.awesomebackgrounds.com/powerpointlooping.htm
Avoiding video wherever possible is a good idea in my book :-)

You are completely correct - Camtasia rocks ;-)

Hmmmm, problem of the first letter going missing when package for CD is
used - don't know about that one. I would imagine it is related to the
down-saving to 97-2003 format that happens when using package for CD &
viewer. Tell me about the slide - how was it built, is the first letter
in
its own textbox, etc.

Lucy

--
Lucy Thomson
PowerPoint MVP
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au


"DavidF" wrote in message
...
Hi Lucy,
I am giving 3 presentations in one day at a conference and I want the
loop
to play while people come into the room. It is just two slides, one
being
the titile with some text graphics and some animation that magnifies
the
title and the floats out of the screen. The second slide is where
various
words appear and disappear one right after the other using the fade
in/out
animation. At then end of that slide, it goes back to the 1st slide.
This
works fine when playing the loop in PowerPoint.

I recorded the slide-show using software called Camtasia Studio 5.0.
It
is
an application that centers around recording, editing and sharing of
screen
video content. Its a great piece of software and I use it to produce
internet training videos. If you are interested in seeing it, I'll
send
you
our website so you can see a video I completed.

Back to the problem, I record the slide show as it happens and save it
off
(publish) as an .avi file. I then go to the Insert tab and select
Movie
in
the Media Clips group and select the video to insert it into the slide.
You
can then double-click on the slide and it will play or play it in the
slideshow. The problem is that it will play the first time through,
but
then
it will go to a black screen and stop after the last slide. That is
where
I
am stumped.

Also, I experienced another problem with the PPT Viewer yesterday. I
am
so
sick of this thing I feel like chunking it all out the window. I have
some
text slides inter-mixed with various video-slides and I noticed
yesterday
after running the Package for CD, that when the text slides come in,
the
first letter of each line is missing. When you pull up the original
slide,
the one used to package it, it is fine, no problems. It only occurs
when
using the Viewer.

I moved all the text slides to the front of the slide show and in front
of
all the videos slides and it did the same thing. Really frustrating.

I appreciate your time and any help/wisdom that you can give me.

David Frazier

"Lucy Thomson" wrote:

Hi David

The naming of the '2007' viewer is what gets my goat I must admit. I'm
happy
for MS to spend their time making improvements to the programme itself
rather than the viewer but the name is a misnomer that catches many
people
out.

As for your question, I'm afraid I'm neither a looping nor a movie
expert.
However, I'll give it a go ;-) When you say you recorded the first
presentation and then inserted it as a movie, may I ask why? And how
did
you
record the movie file?

Lucy

--
Lucy Thomson
PowerPoint MVP
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au


"DavidF" wrote in message
...
Thank you Lucy for responding. I had a funny feeling that was the
case.
It
sure is poor that MS didn't upgrade the Viewer along with everything
else.
I
recorded the the intro presentation and inserted the movie into a
slide
and
played just fine. One problem with that though; it would not
repeat,
it
would only go to a blank screen. I tried the kiosk setting and the
continous
loop setting and both gave me the same result. Got any suggestions
on
that
one?

Again, thank you for responding.

David Frazier
"Lucy Thomson" wrote:

Hi David

This is a problem with the (very poorly named) 2007 viewer - it is
really
the 2003 viewer with the compatibility pack. This means when you
use
the
viewer or package for cd with the viewer PowerPoint 'down saves'
your
file
to a 97-2003 format, which converts much of the new eye-candy
(SmartArt,
the
new cool font stuff, etc) to images and loses animation in the
process. A
work around is to convert the new pretty stuff to a picture
yourself
(cut -
paste special - png/jpg) and add animations to the picture. Far,
far,
far
from perfect but a workaround at least.

Lucy

--
Lucy Thomson
PowerPoint MVP
MOS Master Instructor
www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au


"DavidF" wrote in message
...
For starters, I am using PPT 2007 with XP as the OS.
I have a two part presentation (two separate files). The first
is
an
intro
loop that will play until I press an object linked to the second
file.
The
problem is the first file. This file is only 2 slides long and
on
the
1st
slide, has text that magnifies on entry, the text also has 3-D
with
shadow
settings and 3-D settings. The second slide has several entries
that
will
fade in and out, each having 3-D settings and shadows. When I
play
the
file
in Slide Show view, it works just great and links to the 2nd file
with
no
problem.

The problem occurs when I package it for CD. The animation on
the
first
slide doesn't work at all but the other graphics are okay. Only
half
of
the
entries on the second slide show the graphics (3-D and shadow)
and
the
other
half doesn't. But the animation works. Also, the link on both
pages
work.
I went out and did the compatibility check and it gives me two
issues
on
about 12 different areas on the slides. They a 1. The shape
and
any
text
in it cannot be edited when uysing earlier viersions of
PowerPOint (
Slide
1
and 2) 11 occurences; and number 2. Animations on uneditable
shapes
may
be
removed when using earlier versions of PowerPOint, (slide 1) 1
occurence.

I am saving the file as file type PowerPoint Presentation, which
is
also
the default setting when I check the PowerPoint Options/Save.

 




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