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Hi
I'm preparing an A5 double sided 80 (160) page recipe book to raise funds for our church I have contacted a couple of printers & they all use Macs, don't use Publisher & the only way I can send them a sample is to is to convert to PDF, which means they would be unable to edit corrections etc. Is there another format which could be used that would be common to us both? PDF was the only suggestion the printers gave Suggestions please -- Martin ©¿©¬ |
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If you both have Acrobat you should be able to edit the contents. I can't speak
of other converters. -- Mary Sauer http://msauer.mvps.org/ "Martin ©¿©¬ @nohere.net" wrote in message ... Hi I'm preparing an A5 double sided 80 (160) page recipe book to raise funds for our church I have contacted a couple of printers & they all use Macs, don't use Publisher & the only way I can send them a sample is to is to convert to PDF, which means they would be unable to edit corrections etc. Is there another format which could be used that would be common to us both? PDF was the only suggestion the printers gave Suggestions please -- Martin ©¿©¬ |
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HI Martin,
To find that it would print properly or not, Run design checker on your computer. "Martin ©¿©¬ @nohere.net" wrote in message ... Hi I'm preparing an A5 double sided 80 (160) page recipe book to raise funds for our church I have contacted a couple of printers & they all use Macs, don't use Publisher & the only way I can send them a sample is to is to convert to PDF, which means they would be unable to edit corrections etc. Is there another format which could be used that would be common to us both? PDF was the only suggestion the printers gave Suggestions please -- Martin ©¿©¬ |
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On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 18:17:05 +0530, "Srikanth"
wrote: HI Martin, To find that it would print properly or not, Run design checker on your computer. Thank you Srikanth That found many errors in a small 20 page document -- Martin ©¿©¬ |
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Martin ©¿©¬ @nohere.net wrote in message
... Hi I'm preparing an A5 double sided 80 (160) page recipe book to raise funds for our church I have contacted a couple of printers & they all use Macs, don't use Publisher & the only way I can send them a sample is to is to convert to PDF, which means they would be unable to edit corrections etc. Is there another format which could be used that would be common to us both? PDF was the only suggestion the printers gave Why are they editing corrections? When I send my PDF to my commercial printer, if there's a problem he calls me & I either send a new file (for pertinent pages) or tell him it's ok/ignore & print anyway. bj |
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On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:04:08 -0400, "bjm"
wrote: Why are they editing corrections? When I send my PDF to my commercial printer, if there's a problem he calls me & I either send a new file (for pertinent pages) or tell him it's ok/ignore & print anyway. Hi bj Yeah that's the way I have to do it too -- Martin ©¿©¬ |
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I send a 16pg PDF file of 8-1/2x11" pages, no special layout or whatnot to
make a booklet. They print it out double sided on 11x17 & fold the pages so that when we collate them they make a nice 8-1/2x11" publication. In the "old days" I sent either a hard copy (fancy that!) or, in the less-old days, a PRN file, until I got into making PDFs -- the early PDF -makers didn't work out too well so I started using Acrobat & have stuck with it to reduce chances of "compatibility issues". Before I send it, I print it out in greyscale (though the PDF is in color the final product isn't) on regular paper (either single or double side printing) just to be sure that printing from the Adobe file will "look nice". If I want to see "how it looks" as a booklet I print it that way using the printer-settings from Adobe "double side printing, booklet 'on'" -- it makes a smaller version of what we send to our members. This has been working very well for a number of years. I also send the PDF to various other people; they can view it or print it any which way they want, it's in a standard size/format. bj Martin ©¿©¬ @nohere.net wrote in message ... On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:04:08 -0400, "bjm" wrote: Why are they editing corrections? When I send my PDF to my commercial printer, if there's a problem he calls me & I either send a new file (for pertinent pages) or tell him it's ok/ignore & print anyway. Hi bj Yeah that's the way I have to do it too -- Martin ©¿©¬ |
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Martin, a couple of thoughts.
/rant If you are using Publisher (Windows) and your printer is all Mac based then the idea of having them make text changes is really pretty much out of the question. The problem lays in Adobes adherence to font licensing. Way back when, font vendors were getting upset with Adobe for allowing PDF's to be "edited" for typo's and such. The way it used to work was this; if the font was in the PDF you could make a text change even if the computer editing the PDF did *NOT* have the font installed. Technically that is a violation of the font license agreement that almost all font vendors use. So Adobe had to change Acrobat to first look and see if the font was installed on the computer making the edits. If it is, you can edit it. If not, you can't. The second piece of this is whether to "allow", or have, someone else make the corrections for you. If you have someone else make the corrections for you then your original file is no longer current. It drove me crazy to no end when I would edit someone's Publisher file to clean it up and make a template out of it, send it back to them, show them how to edit it, etc. only to have them not use the one I worked on. There's also a problem with editing PDF's. Not all changes to a PDF can be made, many more should not be made. Editing a PDF is no small feat. Especially because each PDF generating application does it differently. You'd be surprised at how fast and what a mess it turns into. Your best bet is to use the Microsoft Save As PDF/XPS plug-in. Use the High Quality or the Press Quality. If someone asks you to convert the colors to CMYK I would be very cautious. It is far better for you as the consumer to leave it RGB because you end up with a better printed product. I won't get into all the details of it. But suffice it to say, it's easier than people make it out to be. I bet that most of the errors that they found are color, transparency and resolution based. I doubt that they are any more complex than that. If they have a copy of Adobe Acrobat Professional 9 then they have 99% of all the tools that they need. They either need to learn to use them or get the motivation to use them. /end rant Matt Beals Consultant Callas Partner/Trainer Enfocus Certified Trainer Markzware Recognized Trainer (206) 618-2537 - Mobile Come visit me at: http://www.automatetheworkflow.com http://www.mattbeals.com http://blog.mattbeals.com Friends don't let friends write HTML email On 9/14/2009 8:19 AM, Martin ©¿©¬ @nohere.net wrote: On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:04:08 -0400, wrote: Why are they editing corrections? When I send my PDF to my commercial printer, if there's a problem he calls me& I either send a new file (for pertinent pages) or tell him it's ok/ignore& print anyway. Hi bj Yeah that's the way I have to do it too |
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