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  #11  
Old July 2nd, 2009, 10:13 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Ken
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Posts: 424
Default Outlook Express Font Control

Perhaps your Arial Black is corrupt.

"Pete B" wrote in message
...

Just FYI all: the problem was apparently specific to the font I was using
to read messages, Arial Black. Once I changed font the problem went away.
I like Arial Black but not that much. I am now using Incised 901 Bd BT for
everything. I like the looks.

--
Pete B


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
If IE Tools | Internet Options | General | Appearance | Accessibility |

User
style sheet | Format documents using... =this option is enabled, disable

it
and see if the behavior persists. If it doesn't, WYSIWYG.


Pete B wrote:
My newsgroup posting (sending) format is plain text, but my Mail sending
format is HTML.

My compose font settings for both mail and news are Arial Rounded MT

Bold,
10, Bold (not Bold/Italic).

I have three identities already set up, all are the same. However, I use
CSSs for IEx so maybe the Accessibility options are a factor, I will test
it
(but if that is the problem, I will have to lkive with it because I am

not
going to give up CSSs). What are the recommended settings for the HTML
and
Text send options esp. for encoding? Would that affect this? I can test
that too.

Also I should mention that this does not happen with all fonts. A fixed
font is no problem, and even other TT fonts work OK.


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
...I use Arial
Black 12 as my text message font for RTF messages, like this message

You posted here in Plain Text, not RichText/HTML. (As Bruce observes,
RTF
is found in OL, not OE.)

Assuming you're NOT using any Stationery, when composing an email or

news
message *in HTML format* (only), the font is controlled by your
settings...

OE Tools | Options | Compose | Compose font | [Mail or News] | Font
Settings =here

When reading an HTML message, the font is controlled by the sender of

the
message

When reading a Plain Text message, the font is controlled by your
settings...

OE Tools | Options | Read | Fonts | Font =here

All of the above assumes:

1. IE Tools | Internet Options | General | Appearance | Accessibility
=nothing here is checked/enabled; and...

2. A non-Italic font is selected IE Tools | Internet Options | General |
Appearance | Fonts =here.

Then we have...

OLEXP: The Font Size Changes When You Press ENTER in a New Message:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/232001

OLEXP: Default Font Size Is Not Applied in a New HTML E-mail Message:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/240730

OLEXP: Cannot Change Text Format Using Outlook Express:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/178895

And if STILL no joy, see if the behavior persists in a new identity: OE
File | Identities | Add new identity.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


Pete B wrote:
I am using Outlook Express in IE7 as my email client. Since it was
updated
awhile back from a service pack, I have a problem with composing and/or
reading received emails in both plain text and HTML format. I use

Arial
Black 12 as my text message font for RTF messages, like this message,
but
I
am unable to get the text to display as non-italicized characters. All
the
text I enter appears as italics, and the toolbar I(talics) button and
text
formatting commands do not allow me to display anything without

italics.
Ecery HTML message I receive appears as italics, too, and this occurs
with
arial bold fonts in other styles too. Is there some reason I cannot
display
anything in Arial Black in standard unitalicized form: BTW I have both
font
styles installed for Arial Black, the standard and the Italicized.

This is not a major problem, but it does annoy me because i cannot
actually
italicize any text deliberately and selectively, it is instead all
italics.
This occurs both in emails and newsgroup messages.




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  #12  
Old July 2nd, 2009, 10:27 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
PA Bear [MS MVP]
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Posts: 2,690
Default Outlook Express Font Control

....or he's using a third-party Windows Theme.

Ken wrote:
Perhaps your Arial Black is corrupt.

"Pete B" wrote in message
...

Just FYI all: the problem was apparently specific to the font I was using
to read messages, Arial Black. Once I changed font the problem went away.
I like Arial Black but not that much. I am now using Incised 901 Bd BT
for
everything. I like the looks.


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
If IE Tools | Internet Options | General | Appearance | Accessibility |
User style sheet | Format documents using... =this option is enabled,
disable it and see if the behavior persists. If it doesn't, WYSIWYG.


Pete B wrote:
My newsgroup posting (sending) format is plain text, but my Mail sending
format is HTML.

My compose font settings for both mail and news are Arial Rounded MT
Bold,
10, Bold (not Bold/Italic).

I have three identities already set up, all are the same. However, I
use
CSSs for IEx so maybe the Accessibility options are a factor, I will
test
it
(but if that is the problem, I will have to lkive with it because I am
not
going to give up CSSs). What are the recommended settings for the HTML
and
Text send options esp. for encoding? Would that affect this? I can
test
that too.

Also I should mention that this does not happen with all fonts. A fixed
font is no problem, and even other TT fonts work OK.


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
...I use Arial
Black 12 as my text message font for RTF messages, like this message

You posted here in Plain Text, not RichText/HTML. (As Bruce observes,
RTF
is found in OL, not OE.)

Assuming you're NOT using any Stationery, when composing an email or
news
message *in HTML format* (only), the font is controlled by your
settings...

OE Tools | Options | Compose | Compose font | [Mail or News] | Font
Settings =here

When reading an HTML message, the font is controlled by the sender of
the
message

When reading a Plain Text message, the font is controlled by your
settings...

OE Tools | Options | Read | Fonts | Font =here

All of the above assumes:

1. IE Tools | Internet Options | General | Appearance | Accessibility
=nothing here is checked/enabled; and...

2. A non-Italic font is selected IE Tools | Internet Options | General
|
Appearance | Fonts =here.

Then we have...

OLEXP: The Font Size Changes When You Press ENTER in a New Message:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/232001

OLEXP: Default Font Size Is Not Applied in a New HTML E-mail Message:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/240730

OLEXP: Cannot Change Text Format Using Outlook Express:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/178895

And if STILL no joy, see if the behavior persists in a new identity: OE
File | Identities | Add new identity.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


Pete B wrote:
I am using Outlook Express in IE7 as my email client. Since it was
updated
awhile back from a service pack, I have a problem with composing
and/or
reading received emails in both plain text and HTML format. I use
Arial
Black 12 as my text message font for RTF messages, like this message,
but
I
am unable to get the text to display as non-italicized characters.
All
the
text I enter appears as italics, and the toolbar I(talics) button and
text
formatting commands do not allow me to display anything without
italics.
Ecery HTML message I receive appears as italics, too, and this occurs
with
arial bold fonts in other styles too. Is there some reason I cannot
display
anything in Arial Black in standard unitalicized form: BTW I have
both
font
styles installed for Arial Black, the standard and the Italicized.

This is not a major problem, but it does annoy me because i cannot
actually
italicize any text deliberately and selectively, it is instead all
italics.
This occurs both in emails and newsgroup messages.


  #13  
Old July 3rd, 2009, 02:48 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Pete B[_4_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 28
Default Outlook Express Font Control

Maybe the font file is corrupt, but that is a strange kind of corruption, only way it shows is by making it italicized. And since the italicized version is a separate file for that particualr font, I doubt it, but who knows? BTW I don't use any theme at all.

Thanks for all the comments folks.

--
Pete B


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message ...
...or he's using a third-party Windows Theme.

Ken wrote:
Perhaps your Arial Black is corrupt.

"Pete B" wrote in message
...

Just FYI all: the problem was apparently specific to the font I was using
to read messages, Arial Black. Once I changed font the problem went away.
I like Arial Black but not that much. I am now using Incised 901 Bd BT
for
everything. I like the looks.


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
If IE Tools | Internet Options | General | Appearance | Accessibility |
User style sheet | Format documents using... =this option is enabled,
disable it and see if the behavior persists. If it doesn't, WYSIWYG.


Pete B wrote:
My newsgroup posting (sending) format is plain text, but my Mail sending
format is HTML.

My compose font settings for both mail and news are Arial Rounded MT
Bold,
10, Bold (not Bold/Italic).

I have three identities already set up, all are the same. However, I
use
CSSs for IEx so maybe the Accessibility options are a factor, I will
test
it
(but if that is the problem, I will have to lkive with it because I am
not
going to give up CSSs). What are the recommended settings for the HTML
and
Text send options esp. for encoding? Would that affect this? I can
test
that too.

Also I should mention that this does not happen with all fonts. A fixed
font is no problem, and even other TT fonts work OK.


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
...I use Arial
Black 12 as my text message font for RTF messages, like this message

You posted here in Plain Text, not RichText/HTML. (As Bruce observes,
RTF
is found in OL, not OE.)

Assuming you're NOT using any Stationery, when composing an email or
news
message *in HTML format* (only), the font is controlled by your
settings...

OE Tools | Options | Compose | Compose font | [Mail or News] | Font
Settings =here

When reading an HTML message, the font is controlled by the sender of
the
message

When reading a Plain Text message, the font is controlled by your
settings...

OE Tools | Options | Read | Fonts | Font =here

All of the above assumes:

1. IE Tools | Internet Options | General | Appearance | Accessibility
=nothing here is checked/enabled; and...

2. A non-Italic font is selected IE Tools | Internet Options | General
|
Appearance | Fonts =here.

Then we have...

OLEXP: The Font Size Changes When You Press ENTER in a New Message:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/232001

OLEXP: Default Font Size Is Not Applied in a New HTML E-mail Message:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/240730

OLEXP: Cannot Change Text Format Using Outlook Express:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/178895

And if STILL no joy, see if the behavior persists in a new identity: OE
File | Identities | Add new identity.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


Pete B wrote:
I am using Outlook Express in IE7 as my email client. Since it was
updated
awhile back from a service pack, I have a problem with composing
and/or
reading received emails in both plain text and HTML format. I use
Arial
Black 12 as my text message font for RTF messages, like this message,
but
I
am unable to get the text to display as non-italicized characters.
All
the
text I enter appears as italics, and the toolbar I(talics) button and
text
formatting commands do not allow me to display anything without
italics.
Ecery HTML message I receive appears as italics, too, and this occurs
with
arial bold fonts in other styles too. Is there some reason I cannot
display
anything in Arial Black in standard unitalicized form: BTW I have
both
font
styles installed for Arial Black, the standard and the Italicized.

This is not a major problem, but it does annoy me because i cannot
actually
italicize any text deliberately and selectively, it is instead all
italics.
This occurs both in emails and newsgroup messages.


  #14  
Old July 3rd, 2009, 02:52 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Pete B[_4_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 28
Default Outlook Express Font Control

I use Western Europe ISO but changing encoding to UTF-7 or 8 makes it OK, however it makes all the fonts look different so I don't do it. What encoding would you recommend in general, I never can figure out what is the best to use.


--
Pete B


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message ...
What encoding have you selected?

Pete B wrote:
No luck. I turned off all Accessibility options, no change.

I think WYSIWYG is going to be the case no matter what I do unless I
select
a different encoding.

Thanks PA Bear and all.....


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
If IE Tools | Internet Options | General | Appearance | Accessibility |
User style sheet | Format documents using... =this option is enabled,
disable it and see if the behavior persists. If it doesn't, WYSIWYG.


Pete B wrote:
My newsgroup posting (sending) format is plain text, but my Mail sending
format is HTML.

My compose font settings for both mail and news are Arial Rounded MT
Bold,
10, Bold (not Bold/Italic).

I have three identities already set up, all are the same. However, I
use
CSSs for IEx so maybe the Accessibility options are a factor, I will
test
it
(but if that is the problem, I will have to lkive with it because I am
not
going to give up CSSs). What are the recommended settings for the HTML
and
Text send options esp. for encoding? Would that affect this? I can
test
that too.

Also I should mention that this does not happen with all fonts. A fixed
font is no problem, and even other TT fonts work OK.


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
...I use Arial
Black 12 as my text message font for RTF messages, like this message

You posted here in Plain Text, not RichText/HTML. (As Bruce observes,
RTF
is found in OL, not OE.)

Assuming you're NOT using any Stationery, when composing an email or
news
message *in HTML format* (only), the font is controlled by your
settings...

OE Tools | Options | Compose | Compose font | [Mail or News] | Font
Settings =here

When reading an HTML message, the font is controlled by the sender of
the
message

When reading a Plain Text message, the font is controlled by your
settings...

OE Tools | Options | Read | Fonts | Font =here

All of the above assumes:

1. IE Tools | Internet Options | General | Appearance | Accessibility
=nothing here is checked/enabled; and...

2. A non-Italic font is selected IE Tools | Internet Options | General
|
Appearance | Fonts =here.

Then we have...

OLEXP: The Font Size Changes When You Press ENTER in a New Message:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/232001

OLEXP: Default Font Size Is Not Applied in a New HTML E-mail Message:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/240730

OLEXP: Cannot Change Text Format Using Outlook Express:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/178895

And if STILL no joy, see if the behavior persists in a new identity: OE
File | Identities | Add new identity.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


Pete B wrote:
I am using Outlook Express in IE7 as my email client. Since it was
updated
awhile back from a service pack, I have a problem with composing
and/or
reading received emails in both plain text and HTML format. I use
Arial
Black 12 as my text message font for RTF messages, like this message,
but
I
am unable to get the text to display as non-italicized characters.
All
the
text I enter appears as italics, and the toolbar I(talics) button and
text
formatting commands do not allow me to display anything without
italics.
Ecery HTML message I receive appears as italics, too, and this occurs
with
arial bold fonts in other styles too. Is there some reason I cannot
display
anything in Arial Black in standard unitalicized form: BTW I have
both
font
styles installed for Arial Black, the standard and the Italicized.

This is not a major problem, but it does annoy me because i cannot
actually
italicize any text deliberately and selectively, it is instead all
italics.
This occurs both in emails and newsgroup messages.



  #15  
Old July 3rd, 2009, 06:00 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
PA Bear [MS MVP]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,690
Default Outlook Express Font Control

Try Western European (Windows).

Pete B wrote:
I use Western Europe ISO but changing encoding to UTF-7 or 8 makes it OK,
however it makes all the fonts look different so I don't do it. What
encoding would you recommend in general, I never can figure out what is
the
best to use.



"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
What encoding have you selected?

Pete B wrote:
No luck. I turned off all Accessibility options, no change.

I think WYSIWYG is going to be the case no matter what I do unless I
select
a different encoding.

Thanks PA Bear and all.....


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
If IE Tools | Internet Options | General | Appearance | Accessibility |
User style sheet | Format documents using... =this option is enabled,
disable it and see if the behavior persists. If it doesn't, WYSIWYG.


Pete B wrote:
My newsgroup posting (sending) format is plain text, but my Mail
sending
format is HTML.

My compose font settings for both mail and news are Arial Rounded MT
Bold,
10, Bold (not Bold/Italic).

I have three identities already set up, all are the same. However, I
use
CSSs for IEx so maybe the Accessibility options are a factor, I will
test
it
(but if that is the problem, I will have to lkive with it because I am
not
going to give up CSSs). What are the recommended settings for the
HTML
and
Text send options esp. for encoding? Would that affect this? I can
test
that too.

Also I should mention that this does not happen with all fonts. A
fixed
font is no problem, and even other TT fonts work OK.


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
...I use Arial
Black 12 as my text message font for RTF messages, like this message

You posted here in Plain Text, not RichText/HTML. (As Bruce
observes,
RTF
is found in OL, not OE.)

Assuming you're NOT using any Stationery, when composing an email or
news
message *in HTML format* (only), the font is controlled by your
settings...

OE Tools | Options | Compose | Compose font | [Mail or News] | Font
Settings =here

When reading an HTML message, the font is controlled by the sender of
the
message

When reading a Plain Text message, the font is controlled by your
settings...

OE Tools | Options | Read | Fonts | Font =here

All of the above assumes:

1. IE Tools | Internet Options | General | Appearance | Accessibility
=nothing here is checked/enabled; and...

2. A non-Italic font is selected IE Tools | Internet Options |
General

Appearance | Fonts =here.

Then we have...

OLEXP: The Font Size Changes When You Press ENTER in a New Message:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/232001

OLEXP: Default Font Size Is Not Applied in a New HTML E-mail Message:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/240730

OLEXP: Cannot Change Text Format Using Outlook Express:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/178895

And if STILL no joy, see if the behavior persists in a new identity:
OE
File | Identities | Add new identity.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


Pete B wrote:
I am using Outlook Express in IE7 as my email client. Since it was
updated
awhile back from a service pack, I have a problem with composing
and/or
reading received emails in both plain text and HTML format. I use
Arial
Black 12 as my text message font for RTF messages, like this
message,
but
I
am unable to get the text to display as non-italicized characters.
All
the
text I enter appears as italics, and the toolbar I(talics) button
and
text
formatting commands do not allow me to display anything without
italics.
Ecery HTML message I receive appears as italics, too, and this
occurs
with
arial bold fonts in other styles too. Is there some reason I cannot
display
anything in Arial Black in standard unitalicized form: BTW I have
both
font
styles installed for Arial Black, the standard and the Italicized.

This is not a major problem, but it does annoy me because i cannot
actually
italicize any text deliberately and selectively, it is instead all
italics.
This occurs both in emails and newsgroup messages.


  #16  
Old July 3rd, 2009, 04:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Pete B[_4_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 28
Default Outlook Express Font Control

I have tried that, I don't see much difference between that and Western Europe ISO, myself. If anything it makes the characters less legible than the other. I really do not fully undertsand what "encoding" actually involves; I just use whatever works best. For example, I get the MS Tech newsletters, and if I view them using West Euro encoding, I see strange characters here and there, mostly where punstuation marks would be. But if I change the encoding to UTF-8, say, that clears up the garbage, but it also makes the fonts look very different in appearance and size and so on. So I juyst stick to West Euro ISO and live with WYSIWYG.

BTW my font files were not corrupted, they have always worked fine outside of IEx, as in say Word or any other editor (like, say, the code editor in VB). But now that I have stopped using Arial Black, it is no longer an issue.

--
Pete B


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message ...
Try Western European (Windows).

Pete B wrote:
I use Western Europe ISO but changing encoding to UTF-7 or 8 makes it OK,
however it makes all the fonts look different so I don't do it. What
encoding would you recommend in general, I never can figure out what is
the
best to use.



"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
What encoding have you selected?

Pete B wrote:
No luck. I turned off all Accessibility options, no change.

I think WYSIWYG is going to be the case no matter what I do unless I
select
a different encoding.

Thanks PA Bear and all.....


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
If IE Tools | Internet Options | General | Appearance | Accessibility |
User style sheet | Format documents using... =this option is enabled,
disable it and see if the behavior persists. If it doesn't, WYSIWYG.


Pete B wrote:
My newsgroup posting (sending) format is plain text, but my Mail
sending
format is HTML.

My compose font settings for both mail and news are Arial Rounded MT
Bold,
10, Bold (not Bold/Italic).

I have three identities already set up, all are the same. However, I
use
CSSs for IEx so maybe the Accessibility options are a factor, I will
test
it
(but if that is the problem, I will have to lkive with it because I am
not
going to give up CSSs). What are the recommended settings for the
HTML
and
Text send options esp. for encoding? Would that affect this? I can
test
that too.

Also I should mention that this does not happen with all fonts. A
fixed
font is no problem, and even other TT fonts work OK.


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
...I use Arial
Black 12 as my text message font for RTF messages, like this message

You posted here in Plain Text, not RichText/HTML. (As Bruce
observes,
RTF
is found in OL, not OE.)

Assuming you're NOT using any Stationery, when composing an email or
news
message *in HTML format* (only), the font is controlled by your
settings...

OE Tools | Options | Compose | Compose font | [Mail or News] | Font
Settings =here

When reading an HTML message, the font is controlled by the sender of
the
message

When reading a Plain Text message, the font is controlled by your
settings...

OE Tools | Options | Read | Fonts | Font =here

All of the above assumes:

1. IE Tools | Internet Options | General | Appearance | Accessibility
=nothing here is checked/enabled; and...

2. A non-Italic font is selected IE Tools | Internet Options |
General

Appearance | Fonts =here.

Then we have...

OLEXP: The Font Size Changes When You Press ENTER in a New Message:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/232001

OLEXP: Default Font Size Is Not Applied in a New HTML E-mail Message:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/240730

OLEXP: Cannot Change Text Format Using Outlook Express:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/178895

And if STILL no joy, see if the behavior persists in a new identity:
OE
File | Identities | Add new identity.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


Pete B wrote:
I am using Outlook Express in IE7 as my email client. Since it was
updated
awhile back from a service pack, I have a problem with composing
and/or
reading received emails in both plain text and HTML format. I use
Arial
Black 12 as my text message font for RTF messages, like this
message,
but
I
am unable to get the text to display as non-italicized characters.
All
the
text I enter appears as italics, and the toolbar I(talics) button
and
text
formatting commands do not allow me to display anything without
italics.
Ecery HTML message I receive appears as italics, too, and this
occurs
with
arial bold fonts in other styles too. Is there some reason I cannot
display
anything in Arial Black in standard unitalicized form: BTW I have
both
font
styles installed for Arial Black, the standard and the Italicized.

This is not a major problem, but it does annoy me because i cannot
actually
italicize any text deliberately and selectively, it is instead all
italics.
This occurs both in emails and newsgroup messages.


  #17  
Old July 3rd, 2009, 07:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Pete B[_4_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 28
Default Outlook Express Font Control

BTW my font files were not corrupted, they have always worked fine outside of IEx, .....

Make that outside of OEX....

--
Pete B


"Pete B" wrote in message ...
I have tried that, I don't see much difference between that and Western Europe ISO, myself. If anything it makes the characters less legible than the other. I really do not fully undertsand what "encoding" actually involves; I just use whatever works best. For example, I get the MS Tech newsletters, and if I view them using West Euro encoding, I see strange characters here and there, mostly where punstuation marks would be. But if I change the encoding to UTF-8, say, that clears up the garbage, but it also makes the fonts look very different in appearance and size and so on. So I juyst stick to West Euro ISO and live with WYSIWYG.

BTW my font files were not corrupted, they have always worked fine outside of IEx, as in say Word or any other editor (like, say, the code editor in VB). But now that I have stopped using Arial Black, it is no longer an issue.

--
Pete B


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message ...
Try Western European (Windows).

Pete B wrote:
I use Western Europe ISO but changing encoding to UTF-7 or 8 makes it OK,
however it makes all the fonts look different so I don't do it. What
encoding would you recommend in general, I never can figure out what is
the
best to use.



"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
What encoding have you selected?

Pete B wrote:
No luck. I turned off all Accessibility options, no change.

I think WYSIWYG is going to be the case no matter what I do unless I
select
a different encoding.

Thanks PA Bear and all.....


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
If IE Tools | Internet Options | General | Appearance | Accessibility |
User style sheet | Format documents using... =this option is enabled,
disable it and see if the behavior persists. If it doesn't, WYSIWYG.


Pete B wrote:
My newsgroup posting (sending) format is plain text, but my Mail
sending
format is HTML.

My compose font settings for both mail and news are Arial Rounded MT
Bold,
10, Bold (not Bold/Italic).

I have three identities already set up, all are the same. However, I
use
CSSs for IEx so maybe the Accessibility options are a factor, I will
test
it
(but if that is the problem, I will have to lkive with it because I am
not
going to give up CSSs). What are the recommended settings for the
HTML
and
Text send options esp. for encoding? Would that affect this? I can
test
that too.

Also I should mention that this does not happen with all fonts. A
fixed
font is no problem, and even other TT fonts work OK.


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
...I use Arial
Black 12 as my text message font for RTF messages, like this message

You posted here in Plain Text, not RichText/HTML. (As Bruce
observes,
RTF
is found in OL, not OE.)

Assuming you're NOT using any Stationery, when composing an email or
news
message *in HTML format* (only), the font is controlled by your
settings...

OE Tools | Options | Compose | Compose font | [Mail or News] | Font
Settings =here

When reading an HTML message, the font is controlled by the sender of
the
message

When reading a Plain Text message, the font is controlled by your
settings...

OE Tools | Options | Read | Fonts | Font =here

All of the above assumes:

1. IE Tools | Internet Options | General | Appearance | Accessibility
=nothing here is checked/enabled; and...

2. A non-Italic font is selected IE Tools | Internet Options |
General

Appearance | Fonts =here.

Then we have...

OLEXP: The Font Size Changes When You Press ENTER in a New Message:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/232001

OLEXP: Default Font Size Is Not Applied in a New HTML E-mail Message:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/240730

OLEXP: Cannot Change Text Format Using Outlook Express:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/178895

And if STILL no joy, see if the behavior persists in a new identity:
OE
File | Identities | Add new identity.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


Pete B wrote:
I am using Outlook Express in IE7 as my email client. Since it was
updated
awhile back from a service pack, I have a problem with composing
and/or
reading received emails in both plain text and HTML format. I use
Arial
Black 12 as my text message font for RTF messages, like this
message,
but
I
am unable to get the text to display as non-italicized characters.
All
the
text I enter appears as italics, and the toolbar I(talics) button
and
text
formatting commands do not allow me to display anything without
italics.
Ecery HTML message I receive appears as italics, too, and this
occurs
with
arial bold fonts in other styles too. Is there some reason I cannot
display
anything in Arial Black in standard unitalicized form: BTW I have
both
font
styles installed for Arial Black, the standard and the Italicized.

This is not a major problem, but it does annoy me because i cannot
actually
italicize any text deliberately and selectively, it is instead all
italics.
This occurs both in emails and newsgroup messages.



 




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