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Old August 3rd, 2008, 05:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.visio.general
Lurfys Maw
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Default How to define background text that will show on screen but not print?

Is there some setting I can use for objects on a background page that
will cause them to be visible on any foreground page based on that
background page, but will not print?
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Old August 3rd, 2008, 06:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.visio.general
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Default How to define background text that will show on screen but not print?

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 09:40:08 -0700, Lurfys Maw
wrote:

Is there some setting I can use for objects on a background page that
will cause them to be visible on any foreground page based on that
background page, but will not print?


Create a layer, put the required objects on that layer, then set the
layer properties to non-print.


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Electronics for Visio http://www.electronics.sandrila.co.uk/
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Old August 3rd, 2008, 06:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.visio.general
Lurfys Maw
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Default How to define background text that will show on screen but not print?

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:33:09 +0100, Paul Herber
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 09:40:08 -0700, Lurfys Maw
wrote:

Is there some setting I can use for objects on a background page that
will cause them to be visible on any foreground page based on that
background page, but will not print?


Create a layer, put the required objects on that layer, then set the
layer properties to non-print.


Perfect. Thank you.

I am trying to create a template for picture postcards. Standard
postcards have 2 areas where I can write: the message area on the left
and the address area on the right.

I intended to use the background page to store blocks for the
"protected" areas where I should not write. My thinking was that I
could mark the entire background page not to print.

But using the layers feature, I am thinking that I should put the
non-print areas on the working page, but in a non-printing layer. This
is because not all postcards have exaclty the same layout. This would
allow me to create separate pages for each different layout. One
background page wouldn't work anyway, if the areas are different
sizes.

Does that make sense? Is there a better way?

Thanks
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Old August 3rd, 2008, 07:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.visio.general
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Default How to define background text that will show on screen but not

If there aren't too many variations, you might consider multiple backgrounds.
Each foreground page allows you to select the desired background. Just a
thought.

Wapperdude



"Lurfys Maw" wrote:

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:33:09 +0100, Paul Herber
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 09:40:08 -0700, Lurfys Maw
wrote:

Is there some setting I can use for objects on a background page that
will cause them to be visible on any foreground page based on that
background page, but will not print?


Create a layer, put the required objects on that layer, then set the
layer properties to non-print.


Perfect. Thank you.

I am trying to create a template for picture postcards. Standard
postcards have 2 areas where I can write: the message area on the left
and the address area on the right.

I intended to use the background page to store blocks for the
"protected" areas where I should not write. My thinking was that I
could mark the entire background page not to print.

But using the layers feature, I am thinking that I should put the
non-print areas on the working page, but in a non-printing layer. This
is because not all postcards have exaclty the same layout. This would
allow me to create separate pages for each different layout. One
background page wouldn't work anyway, if the areas are different
sizes.

Does that make sense? Is there a better way?

Thanks

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Old August 3rd, 2008, 07:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.visio.general
Paul Herber
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Default How to define background text that will show on screen but not print?

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 10:51:29 -0700, Lurfys Maw
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:33:09 +0100, Paul Herber
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 09:40:08 -0700, Lurfys Maw
wrote:

Is there some setting I can use for objects on a background page that
will cause them to be visible on any foreground page based on that
background page, but will not print?


Create a layer, put the required objects on that layer, then set the
layer properties to non-print.


Perfect. Thank you.

I am trying to create a template for picture postcards. Standard
postcards have 2 areas where I can write: the message area on the left
and the address area on the right.

I intended to use the background page to store blocks for the
"protected" areas where I should not write. My thinking was that I
could mark the entire background page not to print.

But using the layers feature, I am thinking that I should put the
non-print areas on the working page, but in a non-printing layer. This
is because not all postcards have exaclty the same layout. This would
allow me to create separate pages for each different layout. One
background page wouldn't work anyway, if the areas are different
sizes.

Does that make sense? Is there a better way?


I've never been a fan of background pages personally, they don't
achieve anything that I need to do.
Besides that though you could have 2 editable text boxes for the
address and message areas, anything else can be write protected.
The text boxes can be protected to prevent them from being
moved/resized.

(I collect old Scandinavian postcards and postal stationery,
particularly Iceland, pre-1920s).


--
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.
http://www.electronics-packages.sandrila.co.uk/
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Old August 3rd, 2008, 07:59 PM posted to microsoft.public.visio.general
Lurfys Maw
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Default How to define background text that will show on screen but not print?

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:41:04 +0100, Paul Herber
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 10:51:29 -0700, Lurfys Maw
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:33:09 +0100, Paul Herber
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 09:40:08 -0700, Lurfys Maw
wrote:

Is there some setting I can use for objects on a background page that
will cause them to be visible on any foreground page based on that
background page, but will not print?

Create a layer, put the required objects on that layer, then set the
layer properties to non-print.


Perfect. Thank you.

I am trying to create a template for picture postcards. Standard
postcards have 2 areas where I can write: the message area on the left
and the address area on the right.

I intended to use the background page to store blocks for the
"protected" areas where I should not write. My thinking was that I
could mark the entire background page not to print.

But using the layers feature, I am thinking that I should put the
non-print areas on the working page, but in a non-printing layer. This
is because not all postcards have exaclty the same layout. This would
allow me to create separate pages for each different layout. One
background page wouldn't work anyway, if the areas are different
sizes.

Does that make sense? Is there a better way?


I've never been a fan of background pages personally, they don't
achieve anything that I need to do.


They are very useful for putting headers and footers on every page.

Besides that though you could have 2 editable text boxes for the
address and message areas, anything else can be write protected.
The text boxes can be protected to prevent them from being
moved/resized.


I would do that if anyone but me would be using this.

(I collect old Scandinavian postcards and postal stationery,
particularly Iceland, pre-1920s).


The cost of postage today is probably more than the postcards were at
the time.

Thanks for your help. It seems to be working well.
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Old August 3rd, 2008, 08:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.visio.general
Lurfys Maw
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Default How to define background text that will show on screen but not

On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 11:28:00 -0700, WapperDude
wrote:

If there aren't too many variations, you might consider multiple backgrounds.
Each foreground page allows you to select the desired background. Just a
thought.


Since each background will be used by only one foreground page, it
will be simpler to use layers right in the page itself. I think
background pages are mostly useful when they apply to multiple
foreground pages. Right?
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Old August 4th, 2008, 05:11 PM posted to microsoft.public.visio.general
Me
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Default How to define background text that will show on screen but not pri

Create your object - text, outline box, etc. Select the object then change
it to linestyle "Guide" which is non-printing.
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Old August 4th, 2008, 08:07 PM posted to microsoft.public.visio.general
Lurfys Maw
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Default How to define background text that will show on screen but not pri

On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:11:03 -0700, mE
wrote:

Create your object - text, outline box, etc. Select the object then change
it to linestyle "Guide" which is non-printing.


How do I do that? I selected the object, then right-clicked and
selected format | line. No linestyle option.

These objects also have text and shading, which I want non-printing as
well. It seems like putting them in a non-printing layer is simpler.

I am using Visio 2003.
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Old August 5th, 2008, 01:32 AM posted to microsoft.public.visio.general
Paul Herber
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Default How to define background text that will show on screen but not pri

On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 12:07:20 -0700, Lurfys Maw
wrote:

On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:11:03 -0700, mE
wrote:

Create your object - text, outline box, etc. Select the object then change
it to linestyle "Guide" which is non-printing.


How do I do that? I selected the object, then right-clicked and
selected format | line. No linestyle option.

These objects also have text and shading, which I want non-printing as
well. It seems like putting them in a non-printing layer is simpler.

I am using Visio 2003.


It's on the main menu Format - Style
or right-click menu Format - Style

but sorry, can't seem to make this work. Guide lines might not print
but setting a line to the Guide style still does print.


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Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.
Electronics for Visio http://www.electronics.sandrila.co.uk/
 




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