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Old July 20th, 2006, 04:07 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring
jwyoung via OfficeKB.com
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Default Changes in Outlook 2003 event invitation format?

We are in the process of upgrading our mail clients from Outlook 2002 to
Outlook 2003. For some reason Mozilla and Thunderbird don't recognize event
invitations from Outlook 2003 as such - e.g. you can't see the .ics file
attachment nor the body of the message, just the subject line. Thus, the
Mozilla recipient has no clue that he has been invited to a meeting.
Previously, with Outlook 2002 this worked OK (not great, but OK). The
Mozilla recipient received an email with a .ics file attachment and the usual
vcal text in the body such that he could recognize the message as an event
invitation. He could then open the .ics and accept or decline the invitation.


Does anyone know what changed in Outlook 2003? Is there an option that we
need to set such that our Mozilla users can recognize an event invitation?

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Old July 20th, 2006, 04:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring
Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]
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Default Changes in Outlook 2003 event invitation format?

Have you looked at the raw message in Thunderbird to confirm that you're getting iCalendar requests and not native Outlook requests?

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and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

"jwyoung via OfficeKB.com" u18725@uwe wrote in message news:638886249a6ef@uwe...
We are in the process of upgrading our mail clients from Outlook 2002 to
Outlook 2003. For some reason Mozilla and Thunderbird don't recognize event
invitations from Outlook 2003 as such - e.g. you can't see the .ics file
attachment nor the body of the message, just the subject line. Thus, the
Mozilla recipient has no clue that he has been invited to a meeting.
Previously, with Outlook 2002 this worked OK (not great, but OK). The
Mozilla recipient received an email with a .ics file attachment and the usual
vcal text in the body such that he could recognize the message as an event
invitation. He could then open the .ics and accept or decline the invitation.


Does anyone know what changed in Outlook 2003? Is there an option that we
need to set such that our Mozilla users can recognize an event invitation?

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Old July 20th, 2006, 04:43 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring
jwyoung via OfficeKB.com
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Default Changes in Outlook 2003 event invitation format?

If I look at the message source in Thunderbird, I see the "usual" "BEGIN:
VCALENDAR" text. If I look at the full headers I see that the "X-MAPI-
Message-Class" is IPM.Schedule.Meeting.Request. Does that answer your
questions?

Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] wrote:
Have you looked at the raw message in Thunderbird to confirm that you're getting iCalendar requests and not native Outlook requests?

We are in the process of upgrading our mail clients from Outlook 2002 to
Outlook 2003. For some reason Mozilla and Thunderbird don't recognize event

[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
Does anyone know what changed in Outlook 2003? Is there an option that we
need to set such that our Mozilla users can recognize an event invitation?


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Old July 20th, 2006, 05:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring
Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]
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Default Changes in Outlook 2003 event invitation format?

An iCalendar application should ignore any X- headers that it doesn't understand.

I have no information on iCal compatibility issues related to Mozilla. I suspect you'll find more info on that on a Mozilla forum. Let us know if you turn up anything useful.

One thing you might want to try is copying the BEGIN:VCALENDAR to END:VCALENDAR text to an .ics text file and then removing bits and trying to open the resulting .ics file to see if particular edits improve the compatibility.

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Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm
and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

"jwyoung via OfficeKB.com" u18725@uwe wrote in message news:6388d8688c955@uwe...
If I look at the message source in Thunderbird, I see the "usual" "BEGIN:
VCALENDAR" text. If I look at the full headers I see that the "X-MAPI-
Message-Class" is IPM.Schedule.Meeting.Request. Does that answer your
questions?

Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] wrote:
Have you looked at the raw message in Thunderbird to confirm that you're getting iCalendar requests and not native Outlook requests?

We are in the process of upgrading our mail clients from Outlook 2002 to
Outlook 2003. For some reason Mozilla and Thunderbird don't recognize event

[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
Does anyone know what changed in Outlook 2003? Is there an option that we
need to set such that our Mozilla users can recognize an event invitation?

  #5  
Old July 20th, 2006, 06:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring
jwyoung via OfficeKB.com
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Default Changes in Outlook 2003 event invitation format?

I've learned a little more by comparing the source from Outlook 2002 and 2003.
This appears to be the famous winmail.dat problem. For some reason Outlook
2003 is attaching the winmail.dat file to the email for recipients using
Thunderbird, even though my Outlook Rich Text Options are set to "Convert to
HTML format."

Any ideas?

Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] wrote:
An iCalendar application should ignore any X- headers that it doesn't understand.

I have no information on iCal compatibility issues related to Mozilla. I suspect you'll find more info on that on a Mozilla forum. Let us know if you turn up anything useful.

One thing you might want to try is copying the BEGIN:VCALENDAR to END:VCALENDAR text to an .ics text file and then removing bits and trying to open the resulting .ics file to see if particular edits improve the compatibility.

If I look at the message source in Thunderbird, I see the "usual" "BEGIN:
VCALENDAR" text. If I look at the full headers I see that the "X-MAPI-

[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
Does anyone know what changed in Outlook 2003? Is there an option that we
need to set such that our Mozilla users can recognize an event invitation?


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Old July 20th, 2006, 06:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring
Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]
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Default Changes in Outlook 2003 event invitation format?

That's not the key setting. Look in Tools | Options | Calendar Options for the "When sending meeting requests over the Internet ..." setting.

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Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm
and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

"jwyoung via OfficeKB.com" u18725@uwe wrote in message news:638997c874148@uwe...
I've learned a little more by comparing the source from Outlook 2002 and 2003.
This appears to be the famous winmail.dat problem. For some reason Outlook
2003 is attaching the winmail.dat file to the email for recipients using
Thunderbird, even though my Outlook Rich Text Options are set to "Convert to
HTML format."

Any ideas?

Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] wrote:
An iCalendar application should ignore any X- headers that it doesn't understand.

I have no information on iCal compatibility issues related to Mozilla. I suspect you'll find more info on that on a Mozilla forum. Let us know if you turn up anything useful.

One thing you might want to try is copying the BEGIN:VCALENDAR to END:VCALENDAR text to an .ics text file and then removing bits and trying to open the resulting .ics file to see if particular edits improve the compatibility.

If I look at the message source in Thunderbird, I see the "usual" "BEGIN:
VCALENDAR" text. If I look at the full headers I see that the "X-MAPI-

[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
Does anyone know what changed in Outlook 2003? Is there an option that we
need to set such that our Mozilla users can recognize an event invitation?


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Old July 20th, 2006, 06:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring
jwyoung via OfficeKB.com
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Default Changes in Outlook 2003 event invitation format?

That sounds like the magic answer, but that box is grayed out for me. Any
idea how to activate it? Could this be controlled by my email server
(Communigate Pro)?



Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] wrote:
That's not the key setting. Look in Tools | Options | Calendar Options for the "When sending meeting requests over the Internet ..." setting.

I've learned a little more by comparing the source from Outlook 2002 and 2003.
This appears to be the famous winmail.dat problem. For some reason Outlook

[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
Does anyone know what changed in Outlook 2003? Is there an option that we
need to set such that our Mozilla users can recognize an event invitation?


--
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Old July 20th, 2006, 07:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring
Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]
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Default Changes in Outlook 2003 event invitation format?

Yes, it's possible that Communigate is controlling the output format. One thing to try is adding a dummy POP3 account to the mail profile. You should then be able to access that setting.

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Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm
and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

"jwyoung via OfficeKB.com" u18725@uwe wrote in message news:6389efa9c6488@uwe...
That sounds like the magic answer, but that box is grayed out for me. Any
idea how to activate it? Could this be controlled by my email server
(Communigate Pro)?



Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] wrote:
That's not the key setting. Look in Tools | Options | Calendar Options for the "When sending meeting requests over the Internet ..." setting.

I've learned a little more by comparing the source from Outlook 2002 and 2003.
This appears to be the famous winmail.dat problem. For some reason Outlook

[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
Does anyone know what changed in Outlook 2003? Is there an option that we
need to set such that our Mozilla users can recognize an event invitation?


--
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http://www.officekb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...endar/200607/1

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Old July 20th, 2006, 10:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring
jwyoung via OfficeKB.com
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Default Changes in Outlook 2003 event invitation format?

I tried your suggestion of creating a POP account and indeed could access
that setting. However, when I sent a new calendar event invitation it still
included the winmail.dat attachment and was still unreadable by Thunderbird.

By the way, thanks for all of your help, Sue!

Jeff Young

Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] wrote:
Yes, it's possible that Communigate is controlling the output format. One thing to try is adding a dummy POP3 account to the mail profile. You should then be able to access that setting.

That sounds like the magic answer, but that box is grayed out for me. Any
idea how to activate it? Could this be controlled by my email server

[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
Does anyone know what changed in Outlook 2003? Is there an option that we
need to set such that our Mozilla users can recognize an event invitation?


--
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Old July 20th, 2006, 10:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring
Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]
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Default Changes in Outlook 2003 event invitation format?

Sounds like it's under the control of your mail server, then. Maybe Communigate has a setting to make it more Internet-friendly vis-a-vis iCal.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm
and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

"jwyoung via OfficeKB.com" u18725@uwe wrote in message news:638bea1a2841e@uwe...
I tried your suggestion of creating a POP account and indeed could access
that setting. However, when I sent a new calendar event invitation it still
included the winmail.dat attachment and was still unreadable by Thunderbird.

By the way, thanks for all of your help, Sue!

Jeff Young

Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] wrote:
Yes, it's possible that Communigate is controlling the output format. One thing to try is adding a dummy POP3 account to the mail profile. You should then be able to access that setting.

That sounds like the magic answer, but that box is grayed out for me. Any
idea how to activate it? Could this be controlled by my email server

[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
Does anyone know what changed in Outlook 2003? Is there an option that we
need to set such that our Mozilla users can recognize an event invitation?


--
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http://www.officekb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...endar/200607/1

 




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