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Old March 23rd, 2005, 11:25 PM
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employees & porn -- pure misdirection on your part and a waste of
everyones bandwidth.

Your claim that there is some huge potential market of users using OE
for free that will pay to switch to Outlook simply because yEnc support


umm, cookie? what claim? where did i make the claim that OE users will
migrate to O due to yEnc? please quote me.

what i did say, was that making OE the best client it can be is in MS own
interests, and follows their familar pattern. please wipe the film from your
glasses and take a look at IE, Windows Media Player, and MS Photo Editor. all
of which follow the same MS basic plan.... look around at what other
successful apps do, copy it, bundle it for free in the OS.

now, if youre asking me to explain specifically why they do this, i wont be
able to. it is a conversation of its own with many interesting aspects, im
sure. my own speculation is they do this for market domination, trying to get
the biggest userbase possible and in some cases ween them to another product
(i migrated from OE mail to Outlook many years ago) or sell them addition
services and/or ad revenue. i also think they have a paranoid need to block
off all corporate competion--and to MS, everyone is competition. what do they
stand to gain by attracting consumers w/ Photo Editor, instead of letting
those consumers buy Adobe's Photoshop LE?

but its their basic model. if you cant concede that, whatever.

i stopped using OE completely because it lacks yEnc. Xnews is okay, free,
and has yEnc, but id just as soon use OE since its there (thus, i am
appeasing the MS model of bundling everything in the OS). which brings me
back to my original point in posting, before you freakishly decided you had
to bust a nut on your keyboard while telling me why it's so wrong.... so, w/o
further adieu:


Dear MS,

Would you please include yEnc in your OE product? I would find that very
useful. Thank you.

matt


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Old March 24th, 2005, 12:11 AM
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"crap, ive been archived."

He's flipped.


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Old March 24th, 2005, 12:20 AM
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employees & porn -- pure misdirection on your part and a waste of
everyones bandwidth.

Your claim that there is some huge potential market of users using OE
for free that will pay to switch to Outlook simply because yEnc
support


umm, cookie? what claim? where did i make the claim that OE users will
migrate to O due to yEnc? please quote me.



"lets spell it out.... OE users = potential O users"

Your inference was that OE user will become Outlook users in large
enough users for Microsoft to see a significant revenue from that
migration.

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Old March 24th, 2005, 07:09 PM
crap, ive been archived.
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He's flipped.

....flipped?
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Old March 24th, 2005, 07:25 PM
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umm, cookie? what claim? where did i make the claim that OE users will
migrate to O due to yEnc? please quote me.


"lets spell it out.... OE users = potential O users"

Your inference was that OE user will become Outlook users in large
enough users for Microsoft to see a significant revenue from that
migration.


...actually, no, that does not support your claim that i said *yEnc* will
cause users to migrate to O. that simply was not what i said. you may choose
to mis-read it, but that doesnt change it.

reading thru the posts, its pretty clear. you: "why should MS do any favors
by improving their free products?" me: "because they want to have the best
products available" you: "why?" me: "because its market share domination and
potential upgrades".

in the para immediately above my OE = potential O users, the subject was MS'
"free products", and i named two, OE and IE. there is no specificality, and
no inference that yEnc is going to cause people to migrate to O. in fact the
idea of that doesnt make any sense -- O doesnt *have* a newsreader, it uses
OE. so if OE were patched to support yEnc, that wouldnt upsell O upgrade at
all.

however, this does not detract from my overall point, which you conviently
ignored -- a) MS bundles free apps that do what other commerical apps do. b)
they obviously do this for a very real purpose c) thus they should try to
make the marketshare-stealer apps as functional as possible. thats to answer
you "why should they do you any favors" line of serf thinking.

i used another example of one of their freebie apps, the MS Photo Editor,
which is clearly targetting Adobe's home user marketshare. then theres, IE vs
Netscape, WMP vs Real, etc... i mentioned all of those examples, conviently
ignored by you.

welp, its been real, "Vanguard". sadly, im going to be in new orleans the
rest of the weekend. but say hi to the ham radio club for me, and ill pick
this up monday!


matt
 




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