How can you burn the Windows Application Data Folder for email?

Thanks
Like i said this probably is useless, if i delete the emails from my system
the way this is working there will be noithing on the cd as the 2 i tried
disappeared! Apparently no one has ever burnt the Application Data folder
and tried it? Wasn't i a lucky one?

Are these what you are referring to?-, " from another site"--
You should be able to read the .dbx files from your CD with DBX Reader
http://www.mitec.cz/ (freeware) Assistant (not freeware) from
http:\\www.fookes.com which can read/archive/organize. it out - I think
there's a 3
Would be nice if you tried it once? But what good does it do, if you delete
them and they are missing from your cd?
Ithink i'll stay to .eml files.
thanks , until i get more.

"Jim Pickering" wrote:

Here's a simple solution. Got a neighbor or friend with a computer and CD
reader? Take your CD there and try to read it. If it works please let us
all know since this feat is something no one else has ever been able to do.
That will answer your question and help all of us. Thanks.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
Please reply to newsgroup only.


"shortstop643" wrote in message
...
Thanks for asking!
Here's my situation: #1. I used Roxio ecdc , data, and burnt the C:
Windows/Application Data folder to cd. #2 When i view the cd from my cd
rom,
I find the Application Data Folder, and that contains Microsoft, Outlook
Express and others,#3. When I open the Mail folder",D:\ " I have the cd
in
now,D:\Outlook Express;D:\Outlook Express\Mail when i click on Inbox,
Outlook
Express opens.,sent items or deleted all open in outllook express #4
there
are mbx , idx and there is a folders .nch #5. the only ones that open are
the mbx and those open as outlook express. #6. I deleted a couple of the
files and identified them, when i put the cd back in , those files were
gone
from outllook express. #7, Apparently this procedure that I was informed
of
does not retain the files? #8, The computer must be "avoiding the cd and
reading from outlook express? Being I am ignorant here, I am just trying
to
get an answer why? #9. When i open the .eml files in folders i have they
open up individually, and not as outlook express,just as an .eml file.
Sorry, just trying to understand why a cd opens up an entire program when
it
is on cd and does not retain the complete files if you delete them? it
show
the pop3 uidl.dat also: D:\Outlook Express, this shows the mail and news
folders, there are 14 items here dbx, has a clean up log, sent, in
deleted,
offline, etc,;D:\Outlook Express\Mail, this has idx and dbx, the mbx have
outlook express symbol on them, the idx have the blue explorer e on them.
Best i can do without sending you the cd.
thanks
snipped

I don't know if you have edit features here for posted messages, but i did
try this first on my daughters dell with xp outlook express and file
association was not there. Then her system froze, so i quit.
"Jim Pickering" wrote:

Here's a simple solution. Got a neighbor or friend with a computer and CD
reader? Take your CD there and try to read it. If it works please let us
all know since this feat is something no one else has ever been able to do.
That will answer your question and help all of us. Thanks.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
Please reply to newsgroup only.


"shortstop643" wrote in message
...
Thanks for asking!
Here's my situation: #1. I used Roxio ecdc , data, and burnt the C:
Windows/Application Data folder to cd. #2 When i view the cd from my cd
rom,
I find the Application Data Folder, and that contains Microsoft, Outlook
Express and others,#3. When I open the Mail folder",D:\ " I have the cd
in
now,D:\Outlook Express;D:\Outlook Express\Mail when i click on Inbox,
Outlook
Express opens.,sent items or deleted all open in outllook express #4
there
are mbx , idx and there is a folders .nch #5. the only ones that open are
the mbx and those open as outlook express. #6. I deleted a couple of the
files and identified them, when i put the cd back in , those files were
gone
from outllook express. #7, Apparently this procedure that I was informed
of
does not retain the files? #8, The computer must be "avoiding the cd and
reading from outlook express? Being I am ignorant here, I am just trying
to
get an answer why? #9. When i open the .eml files in folders i have they
open up individually, and not as outlook express,just as an .eml file.
Sorry, just trying to understand why a cd opens up an entire program when
it
is on cd and does not retain the complete files if you delete them? it
show
the pop3 uidl.dat also: D:\Outlook Express, this shows the mail and news
folders, there are 14 items here dbx, has a clean up log, sent, in
deleted,
offline, etc,;D:\Outlook Express\Mail, this has idx and dbx, the mbx have
outlook express symbol on them, the idx have the blue explorer e on them.
Best i can do without sending you the cd.
thanks
snipped

You have me completely confused now. OE will not read off the CD. OE is
reading from the directory located via Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store
folder. That is what OE is using for the message source. There should be
no interaction with what is on the CD, as OE can't read the CD.

steve

"shortstop643" wrote in message
...
Thanks for asking!
Here's my situation: #1. I used Roxio ecdc , data, and burnt the C:
Windows/Application Data folder to cd. #2 When i view the cd from my cd
rom,
I find the Application Data Folder, and that contains Microsoft, Outlook
Express and others,#3. When I open the Mail folder",D:\ " I have the cd
in
now,D:\Outlook Express;D:\Outlook Express\Mail when i click on Inbox,
Outlook
Express opens.,sent items or deleted all open in outllook express #4
there
are mbx , idx and there is a folders .nch #5. the only ones that open are
the mbx and those open as outlook express. #6. I deleted a couple of the
files and identified them, when i put the cd back in , those files were
gone
from outllook express. #7, Apparently this procedure that I was informed
of
does not retain the files? #8, The computer must be "avoiding the cd and
reading from outlook express? Being I am ignorant here, I am just trying
to
get an answer why? #9. When i open the .eml files in folders i have they
open up individually, and not as outlook express,just as an .eml file.
Sorry, just trying to understand why a cd opens up an entire program when
it
is on cd and does not retain the complete files if you delete them? it
show
the pop3 uidl.dat also: D:\Outlook Express, this shows the mail and news
folders, there are 14 items here dbx, has a clean up log, sent, in
deleted,
offline, etc,;D:\Outlook Express\Mail, this has idx and dbx, the mbx have
outlook express symbol on them, the idx have the blue explorer e on them.
Best i can do without sending you the cd.
thanks

"Michael Santovec" wrote:

I'm not clear what you are seeing on the CD.

Describe step-by-step how you are viewing the CD and what you see.

For example, you are using the Windows File Explorer and seeing the DBX
files on the CD?

If so, how to you see the individual messages? Do you double click a
DBX file? If so,
what does the Window title say?

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"shortstop643" wrote in message
...
cd Thanks
Can you tell me why i can read the files now when i open up the cd
from,
C:ApplicationData/Folder,,, the sub folder Microsoft, then Outlook
Express,
all the messages are displayed.? "I am not opening Outllook Express
from the
Desktop.

This question keeps getting walked around. Is that the same as
opening it
from the Desktop/Programs/OutlookExpress, even though I am using the
cd in
the cd rom? If you can clear this up,for me?
Thanks

"Steve Cochran" wrote:


"shortstop643" wrote in message
...
Thanks
Question # 1;
Being i can read them on my pc from the cd rom, if i delete them
from
outlook express, they will still be readable on my pc from the cd
?


OE will not be able to read them. You will have to reincorporate
them into
OE. You can use the method in the last paragraph on this page:
www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx or see other methods:
www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4

OE is nearly the only program that reads the message store, so you
have to
reincorporate the dbx files into OE.

Question #2
Being i am able to read them from the cd on my system in the cd
rom by
opening the the folder from C:/Windows/Application Data, which is
how it
was
burned, why do they read there if the mbx dbx idx extensions are
there?
Is
it because it is the whole outlook express is backed up on the cd
and ny
pc
then recognizes it?


The files are on the CD because you backed them up on the CD. OE
will not
read them from the CD though.

Question #3
Being i am going to be getting a new system soon, what di i have to
do to
make these readable on a new system?



See the links above the links referenced in them.

steve




thanks in advance.

"Michael Santovec" wrote:

What file extension is showing on the CD? DBX, MBX or EML?

EML files are directly readable from CD if the PC has Outlook
Express
installed AND the
EML file association is properly configured.

In the case of DBX files, OE cannot directly access them from CD.
However, if you have
installed a program such as DBXtract that can read DBX files (and
convert them to EML),
you could read them that way. But another PC without such a
program
wouldn't know what to
do with the DBX files.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"shortstop643" wrote in
message
...
Thanks

When I open the cd on my system from the application data
folder, in
the cd
rom, why does it show all the existing emails on the cd just as
they
are in
my outlook express? If those are the same emails, can I
delete them
from
ny outlook express and they will still be on the cd as i have
it
burned? I
get the impression these are not readable ?
They show the same identical # of files as well

I just want to delete the existing email from outlook express,
and i
don't
understand why it's showing on my computer, and not on some one
else's
except
for the right file extension. Do you understand what i want to
do?
thanks

"Michael Santovec" wrote:

The only way to read those files is to either restore them to
a
working Outlook Express
(you could use an identity just for that) or convert them to
EML
files and then read
those.

The MBX/IDX files are from OE version 4 and might no longer be
of any
value to you.
They
were presumably imported to OE 5 or later when the upgrade was
done.
For converting
MBX
files to EML files, see:
OUTDUMP.EXE -
http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_san...es/outdump.zip
MBXtract - http://www.oehelp.com/MBXtract/Default.aspx

For converting DBX files to EML files, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXtract/Default.aspx

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"shortstop643" wrote in
message
...

Hi
I thought you could burn the Application Data folder or
Microsoft
folder or
Outlook Express folder from C:/Windows to a cd and have all
your
messages
saved that way? I have them on a cd, and i can read them
on my cd
rom, but
on my daughters Dell with xp, i can not open the files, it
looks
for a file
association.
It said to connect to web, but her isp is real slow, and I
could
not read
the files.
I only want these for saving on cd, not to restore, before i
delete
them
from my system i want to be sure i can read them on another
system
in a cd
rom. I know how to do the eml files, and copy and paste to
text or
save as
text, i am asking if copying the Aplication Data folder will
save
on cd for
another system to read only-" not resrore"? These are mbx,
idx and
dbx
extensions, in Outlook Express 6.0
thanks

OK,
That's what i thought, So how do you get it to read the mbx being i am using
outlook express 6? It says, in one of those links from microsoft you have to
have the same version "4" to read those, [The messages I have saved are
from Outlook Express 6, which I am using?] Remember I am not wanting to
"RESTORE" these only to "READ" them from the cd.

Thanks

"Steve Cochran" wrote:

You have me completely confused now. OE will not read off the CD. OE is
reading from the directory located via Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store
folder. That is what OE is using for the message source. There should be
no interaction with what is on the CD, as OE can't read the CD.

steve

"shortstop643" wrote in message
...
Thanks for asking!
Here's my situation: #1. I used Roxio ecdc , data, and burnt the C:
Windows/Application Data folder to cd. #2 When i view the cd from my cd
rom,
I find the Application Data Folder, and that contains Microsoft, Outlook
Express and others,#3. When I open the Mail folder",D:\ " I have the cd
in
now,D:\Outlook Express;D:\Outlook Express\Mail when i click on Inbox,
Outlook
Express opens.,sent items or deleted all open in outllook express #4
there
are mbx , idx and there is a folders .nch #5. the only ones that open are
the mbx and those open as outlook express. #6. I deleted a couple of the
files and identified them, when i put the cd back in , those files were
gone
from outllook express. #7, Apparently this procedure that I was informed
of
does not retain the files? #8, The computer must be "avoiding the cd and
reading from outlook express? Being I am ignorant here, I am just trying
to
get an answer why? #9. When i open the .eml files in folders i have they
open up individually, and not as outlook express,just as an .eml file.
Sorry, just trying to understand why a cd opens up an entire program when
it
is on cd and does not retain the complete files if you delete them? it
show
the pop3 uidl.dat also: D:\Outlook Express, this shows the mail and news
folders, there are 14 items here dbx, has a clean up log, sent, in
deleted,
offline, etc,;D:\Outlook Express\Mail, this has idx and dbx, the mbx have
outlook express symbol on them, the idx have the blue explorer e on them.
Best i can do without sending you the cd.
thanks

"Michael Santovec" wrote:

I'm not clear what you are seeing on the CD.

Describe step-by-step how you are viewing the CD and what you see.

For example, you are using the Windows File Explorer and seeing the DBX
files on the CD?

If so, how to you see the individual messages? Do you double click a
DBX file? If so,
what does the Window title say?

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"shortstop643" wrote in message
...
cd Thanks
Can you tell me why i can read the files now when i open up the cd
from,
C:ApplicationData/Folder,,, the sub folder Microsoft, then Outlook
Express,
all the messages are displayed.? "I am not opening Outllook Express
from the
Desktop.

This question keeps getting walked around. Is that the same as
opening it
from the Desktop/Programs/OutlookExpress, even though I am using the
cd in
the cd rom? If you can clear this up,for me?
Thanks

"Steve Cochran" wrote:


"shortstop643" wrote in message
...
Thanks
Question # 1;
Being i can read them on my pc from the cd rom, if i delete them
from
outlook express, they will still be readable on my pc from the cd
?


OE will not be able to read them. You will have to reincorporate
them into
OE. You can use the method in the last paragraph on this page:
www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx or see other methods:
www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4

OE is nearly the only program that reads the message store, so you
have to
reincorporate the dbx files into OE.

Question #2
Being i am able to read them from the cd on my system in the cd
rom by
opening the the folder from C:/Windows/Application Data, which is
how it
was
burned, why do they read there if the mbx dbx idx extensions are
there?
Is
it because it is the whole outlook express is backed up on the cd
and ny
pc
then recognizes it?


The files are on the CD because you backed them up on the CD. OE
will not
read them from the CD though.

Question #3
Being i am going to be getting a new system soon, what di i have to
do to
make these readable on a new system?



See the links above the links referenced in them.

steve




thanks in advance.

"Michael Santovec" wrote:

What file extension is showing on the CD? DBX, MBX or EML?

EML files are directly readable from CD if the PC has Outlook
Express
installed AND the
EML file association is properly configured.

In the case of DBX files, OE cannot directly access them from CD.
However, if you have
installed a program such as DBXtract that can read DBX files (and
convert them to EML),
you could read them that way. But another PC without such a
program
wouldn't know what to
do with the DBX files.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"shortstop643" wrote in
message
...
Thanks

When I open the cd on my system from the application data
folder, in
the cd
rom, why does it show all the existing emails on the cd just as
they
are in
my outlook express? If those are the same emails, can I
delete them
from
ny outlook express and they will still be on the cd as i have
it
burned? I
get the impression these are not readable ?
They show the same identical # of files as well

I just want to delete the existing email from outlook express,
and i
don't
understand why it's showing on my computer, and not on some one
else's
except
for the right file extension. Do you understand what i want to
do?
thanks

"Michael Santovec" wrote:

The only way to read those files is to either restore them to
a
working Outlook Express
(you could use an identity just for that) or convert them to
EML
files and then read
those.

The MBX/IDX files are from OE version 4 and might no longer be
of any
value to you.
They
were presumably imported to OE 5 or later when the upgrade was
done.
For converting
MBX
files to EML files, see:
OUTDUMP.EXE -
http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_san...es/outdump.zip
MBXtract - http://www.oehelp.com/MBXtract/Default.aspx

For converting DBX files to EML files, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXtract/Default.aspx

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"shortstop643" wrote in
message
...

Hi
I thought you could burn the Application Data folder or
Microsoft
folder or
Outlook Express folder from C:/Windows to a cd and have all
your
messages
saved that way? I have them on a cd, and i can read them
on my cd
rom, but
on my daughters Dell with xp, i can not open the files, it
looks
for a file
association.
It said to connect to web, but her isp is real slow, and I
could
not read
the files.
I only want these for saving on cd, not to restore, before i
delete
them
from my system i want to be sure i can read them on another
system
in a cd
rom. I know how to do the eml files, and copy and paste to
text or
save as
text, i am asking if copying the Aplication Data folder will
save
on cd for
another system to read only-" not resrore"? These are mbx,
idx and
dbx
extensions, in Outlook Express 6.0
thanks

I think I know what's happening.

You've set up a file association for DBX files to Outlook Express (MSIMN.EXE), which is of
not use. With the exception of a few startup parameters for EML or NWS files, if you
start OE that way, it ignores the file and starts as if you just started OE from a desk
top icon or other means. So it's not read the CD at all. The CD was just used to trigger
the starting of OE.

If you took the CD to another PC and it didn't have the DBX file association, you would
get the message that the file has no association. If they did have the DBX association,
it would open that PC's Outlook Express data.

So back to square one.

Doing the backup as you did, you need to either restore the data to Outlook Express to
view it or use a program such as DBXtract to convert the DBX files on CD to EML files to
read them.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"shortstop643" wrote in message
...
Thanks for asking!
Here's my situation: #1. I used Roxio ecdc , data, and burnt the C:
Windows/Application Data folder to cd. #2 When i view the cd from my cd rom,
I find the Application Data Folder, and that contains Microsoft, Outlook
Express and others,#3. When I open the Mail folder",D:\ " I have the cd in
now,D:\Outlook Express;D:\Outlook Express\Mail when i click on Inbox, Outlook
Express opens.,sent items or deleted all open in outllook express #4 there
are mbx , idx and there is a folders .nch #5. the only ones that open are
the mbx and those open as outlook express. #6. I deleted a couple of the
files and identified them, when i put the cd back in , those files were gone
from outllook express. #7, Apparently this procedure that I was informed of
does not retain the files? #8, The computer must be "avoiding the cd and
reading from outlook express? Being I am ignorant here, I am just trying to
get an answer why? #9. When i open the .eml files in folders i have they
open up individually, and not as outlook express,just as an .eml file.
Sorry, just trying to understand why a cd opens up an entire program when it
is on cd and does not retain the complete files if you delete them? it show
the pop3 uidl.dat also: D:\Outlook Express, this shows the mail and news
folders, there are 14 items here dbx, has a clean up log, sent, in deleted,
offline, etc,;D:\Outlook Express\Mail, this has idx and dbx, the mbx have
outlook express symbol on them, the idx have the blue explorer e on them.
Best i can do without sending you the cd.
thanks

"Michael Santovec" wrote:

I'm not clear what you are seeing on the CD.

Describe step-by-step how you are viewing the CD and what you see.

For example, you are using the Windows File Explorer and seeing the DBX files on the
CD?

If so, how to you see the individual messages? Do you double click a DBX file? If so,
what does the Window title say?

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"shortstop643" wrote in message
...
cd Thanks
Can you tell me why i can read the files now when i open up the cd from,
C:ApplicationData/Folder,,, the sub folder Microsoft, then Outlook Express,
all the messages are displayed.? "I am not opening Outllook Express from the
Desktop.

This question keeps getting walked around. Is that the same as opening it
from the Desktop/Programs/OutlookExpress, even though I am using the cd in
the cd rom? If you can clear this up,for me?
Thanks

"Steve Cochran" wrote:


"shortstop643" wrote in message
...
Thanks
Question # 1;
Being i can read them on my pc from the cd rom, if i delete them from
outlook express, they will still be readable on my pc from the cd ?


OE will not be able to read them. You will have to reincorporate them into
OE. You can use the method in the last paragraph on this page:
www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx or see other methods:
www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4

OE is nearly the only program that reads the message store, so you have to
reincorporate the dbx files into OE.

Question #2
Being i am able to read them from the cd on my system in the cd rom by
opening the the folder from C:/Windows/Application Data, which is how it
was
burned, why do they read there if the mbx dbx idx extensions are there?
Is
it because it is the whole outlook express is backed up on the cd and ny
pc
then recognizes it?


The files are on the CD because you backed them up on the CD. OE will not
read them from the CD though.

Question #3
Being i am going to be getting a new system soon, what di i have to do to
make these readable on a new system?



See the links above the links referenced in them.

steve




thanks in advance.

"Michael Santovec" wrote:

What file extension is showing on the CD? DBX, MBX or EML?

EML files are directly readable from CD if the PC has Outlook Express
installed AND the
EML file association is properly configured.

In the case of DBX files, OE cannot directly access them from CD.
However, if you have
installed a program such as DBXtract that can read DBX files (and
convert them to EML),
you could read them that way. But another PC without such a program
wouldn't know what to
do with the DBX files.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"shortstop643" wrote in message
...
Thanks

When I open the cd on my system from the application data folder, in
the cd
rom, why does it show all the existing emails on the cd just as they
are in
my outlook express? If those are the same emails, can I delete them
from
ny outlook express and they will still be on the cd as i have it
burned? I
get the impression these are not readable ?
They show the same identical # of files as well

I just want to delete the existing email from outlook express, and i
don't
understand why it's showing on my computer, and not on some one else's
except
for the right file extension. Do you understand what i want to do?
thanks

"Michael Santovec" wrote:

The only way to read those files is to either restore them to a
working Outlook Express
(you could use an identity just for that) or convert them to EML
files and then read
those.

The MBX/IDX files are from OE version 4 and might no longer be of any
value to you.
They
were presumably imported to OE 5 or later when the upgrade was done.
For converting
MBX
files to EML files, see:
OUTDUMP.EXE -
http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_san...es/outdump.zip
MBXtract - http://www.oehelp.com/MBXtract/Default.aspx

For converting DBX files to EML files, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXtract/Default.aspx

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"shortstop643" wrote in message
...

Hi
I thought you could burn the Application Data folder or Microsoft
folder or
Outlook Express folder from C:/Windows to a cd and have all your
messages
saved that way? I have them on a cd, and i can read them on my cd
rom, but
on my daughters Dell with xp, i can not open the files, it looks
for a file
association.
It said to connect to web, but her isp is real slow, and I could
not read
the files.
I only want these for saving on cd, not to restore, before i delete
them
from my system i want to be sure i can read them on another system
in a cd
rom. I know how to do the eml files, and copy and paste to text or
save as
text, i am asking if copying the Aplication Data folder will save
on cd for
another system to read only-" not resrore"? These are mbx, idx and
dbx
extensions, in Outlook Express 6.0
thanks

For mbx files you either have to copy them to the hard drive and the import
them into OE, or else you can use MBXtract to extract the messages from the
mbx file as eml files and then you can read them outside of OE, or
reincorporate them.

www.oehelp.com/MBXtract/

steve

"shortstop643" wrote in message
...
OK,
That's what i thought, So how do you get it to read the mbx being i am
using
outlook express 6? It says, in one of those links from microsoft you have
to
have the same version "4" to read those, [The messages I have saved are
from Outlook Express 6, which I am using?] Remember I am not wanting to
"RESTORE" these only to "READ" them from the cd.

Thanks

"Steve Cochran" wrote:

You have me completely confused now. OE will not read off the CD. OE
is
reading from the directory located via Tools | Options | Maintenance |
Store
folder. That is what OE is using for the message source. There should
be
no interaction with what is on the CD, as OE can't read the CD.

steve

"shortstop643" wrote in message
...
Thanks for asking!
Here's my situation: #1. I used Roxio ecdc , data, and burnt the C:
Windows/Application Data folder to cd. #2 When i view the cd from my
cd
rom,
I find the Application Data Folder, and that contains Microsoft,
Outlook
Express and others,#3. When I open the Mail folder",D:\ " I have the
cd
in
now,D:\Outlook Express;D:\Outlook Express\Mail when i click on Inbox,
Outlook
Express opens.,sent items or deleted all open in outllook express #4
there
are mbx , idx and there is a folders .nch #5. the only ones that open
are
the mbx and those open as outlook express. #6. I deleted a couple of
the
files and identified them, when i put the cd back in , those files
were
gone
from outllook express. #7, Apparently this procedure that I was
informed
of
does not retain the files? #8, The computer must be "avoiding the cd
and
reading from outlook express? Being I am ignorant here, I am just
trying
to
get an answer why? #9. When i open the .eml files in folders i have
they
open up individually, and not as outlook express,just as an .eml file.
Sorry, just trying to understand why a cd opens up an entire program
when
it
is on cd and does not retain the complete files if you delete them?
it
show
the pop3 uidl.dat also: D:\Outlook Express, this shows the mail and
news
folders, there are 14 items here dbx, has a clean up log, sent, in
deleted,
offline, etc,;D:\Outlook Express\Mail, this has idx and dbx, the mbx
have
outlook express symbol on them, the idx have the blue explorer e on
them.
Best i can do without sending you the cd.
thanks

"Michael Santovec" wrote:

I'm not clear what you are seeing on the CD.

Describe step-by-step how you are viewing the CD and what you see.

For example, you are using the Windows File Explorer and seeing the
DBX
files on the CD?

If so, how to you see the individual messages? Do you double click
a
DBX file? If so,
what does the Window title say?

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"shortstop643" wrote in
message
...
cd Thanks
Can you tell me why i can read the files now when i open up the cd
from,
C:ApplicationData/Folder,,, the sub folder Microsoft, then Outlook
Express,
all the messages are displayed.? "I am not opening Outllook
Express
from the
Desktop.

This question keeps getting walked around. Is that the same as
opening it
from the Desktop/Programs/OutlookExpress, even though I am using
the
cd in
the cd rom? If you can clear this up,for me?
Thanks

"Steve Cochran" wrote:


"shortstop643" wrote in
message
...
Thanks
Question # 1;
Being i can read them on my pc from the cd rom, if i delete
them
from
outlook express, they will still be readable on my pc from the
cd
?


OE will not be able to read them. You will have to reincorporate
them into
OE. You can use the method in the last paragraph on this page:
www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx or see other methods:
www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4

OE is nearly the only program that reads the message store, so
you
have to
reincorporate the dbx files into OE.

Question #2
Being i am able to read them from the cd on my system in the
cd
rom by
opening the the folder from C:/Windows/Application Data, which
is
how it
was
burned, why do they read there if the mbx dbx idx extensions
are
there?
Is
it because it is the whole outlook express is backed up on the
cd
and ny
pc
then recognizes it?


The files are on the CD because you backed them up on the CD. OE
will not
read them from the CD though.

Question #3
Being i am going to be getting a new system soon, what di i
have to
do to
make these readable on a new system?



See the links above the links referenced in them.

steve




thanks in advance.

"Michael Santovec" wrote:

What file extension is showing on the CD? DBX, MBX or EML?

EML files are directly readable from CD if the PC has Outlook
Express
installed AND the
EML file association is properly configured.

In the case of DBX files, OE cannot directly access them from
CD.
However, if you have
installed a program such as DBXtract that can read DBX files
(and
convert them to EML),
you could read them that way. But another PC without such a
program
wouldn't know what to
do with the DBX files.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"shortstop643" wrote in
message
...
Thanks

When I open the cd on my system from the application data
folder, in
the cd
rom, why does it show all the existing emails on the cd
just as
they
are in
my outlook express? If those are the same emails, can I
delete them
from
ny outlook express and they will still be on the cd as i
have
it
burned? I
get the impression these are not readable ?
They show the same identical # of files as well

I just want to delete the existing email from outlook
express,
and i
don't
understand why it's showing on my computer, and not on some
one
else's
except
for the right file extension. Do you understand what i
want to
do?
thanks

"Michael Santovec" wrote:

The only way to read those files is to either restore them
to
a
working Outlook Express
(you could use an identity just for that) or convert them
to
EML
files and then read
those.

The MBX/IDX files are from OE version 4 and might no
longer be
of any
value to you.
They
were presumably imported to OE 5 or later when the upgrade
was
done.
For converting
MBX
files to EML files, see:
OUTDUMP.EXE -
http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_san...es/outdump.zip
MBXtract - http://www.oehelp.com/MBXtract/Default.aspx

For converting DBX files to EML files, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXtract/Default.aspx

--

Mike -
http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"shortstop643" wrote
in
message
...

Hi
I thought you could burn the Application Data folder or
Microsoft
folder or
Outlook Express folder from C:/Windows to a cd and have
all
your
messages
saved that way? I have them on a cd, and i can read
them
on my cd
rom, but
on my daughters Dell with xp, i can not open the files,
it
looks
for a file
association.
It said to connect to web, but her isp is real slow, and
I
could
not read
the files.
I only want these for saving on cd, not to restore,
before i
delete
them
from my system i want to be sure i can read them on
another
system
in a cd
rom. I know how to do the eml files, and copy and paste
to
text or
save as
text, i am asking if copying the Aplication Data folder
will
save
on cd for
another system to read only-" not resrore"? These are
mbx,
idx and
dbx
extensions, in Outlook Express 6.0
thanks

OK

What file association do i need to have if i can change that to read the cd
as it is backed up? #2 If that doesn't work how do i convert the mbx or dbx
to eml,? #3 How do you know another system has or has not a DBX association
? I understand where we are now, now what do we do to read it? #4 iI think
the right question is , how do i do DBXtract?

LARRY THE CABLE GUY" GIT R DUN" "HUMOR"
THANKS

"Michael Santovec" wrote:

I think I know what's happening.

You've set up a file association for DBX files to Outlook Express (MSIMN.EXE), which is of
not use. With the exception of a few startup parameters for EML or NWS files, if you
start OE that way, it ignores the file and starts as if you just started OE from a desk
top icon or other means. So it's not read the CD at all. The CD was just used to trigger
the starting of OE.

If you took the CD to another PC and it didn't have the DBX file association, you would
get the message that the file has no association. If they did have the DBX association,
it would open that PC's Outlook Express data.

So back to square one.

Doing the backup as you did, you need to either restore the data to Outlook Express to
view it or use a program such as DBXtract to convert the DBX files on CD to EML files to
read them.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"shortstop643" wrote in message
...
Thanks for asking!
Here's my situation: #1. I used Roxio ecdc , data, and burnt the C:
Windows/Application Data folder to cd. #2 When i view the cd from my cd rom,
I find the Application Data Folder, and that contains Microsoft, Outlook
Express and others,#3. When I open the Mail folder",D:\ " I have the cd in
now,D:\Outlook Express;D:\Outlook Express\Mail when i click on Inbox, Outlook
Express opens.,sent items or deleted all open in outllook express #4 there
are mbx , idx and there is a folders .nch #5. the only ones that open are
the mbx and those open as outlook express. #6. I deleted a couple of the
files and identified them, when i put the cd back in , those files were gone
from outllook express. #7, Apparently this procedure that I was informed of
does not retain the files? #8, The computer must be "avoiding the cd and
reading from outlook express? Being I am ignorant here, I am just trying to
get an answer why? #9. When i open the .eml files in folders i have they
open up individually, and not as outlook express,just as an .eml file.
Sorry, just trying to understand why a cd opens up an entire program when it
is on cd and does not retain the complete files if you delete them? it show
the pop3 uidl.dat also: D:\Outlook Express, this shows the mail and news
folders, there are 14 items here dbx, has a clean up log, sent, in deleted,
offline, etc,;D:\Outlook Express\Mail, this has idx and dbx, the mbx have
outlook express symbol on them, the idx have the blue explorer e on them.
Best i can do without sending you the cd.
thanks

"Michael Santovec" wrote:

I'm not clear what you are seeing on the CD.

Describe step-by-step how you are viewing the CD and what you see.

For example, you are using the Windows File Explorer and seeing the DBX files on the
CD?

If so, how to you see the individual messages? Do you double click a DBX file? If so,
what does the Window title say?

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"shortstop643" wrote in message
...
cd Thanks
Can you tell me why i can read the files now when i open up the cd from,
C:ApplicationData/Folder,,, the sub folder Microsoft, then Outlook Express,
all the messages are displayed.? "I am not opening Outllook Express from the
Desktop.

This question keeps getting walked around. Is that the same as opening it
from the Desktop/Programs/OutlookExpress, even though I am using the cd in
the cd rom? If you can clear this up,for me?
Thanks

"Steve Cochran" wrote:


"shortstop643" wrote in message
...
Thanks
Question # 1;
Being i can read them on my pc from the cd rom, if i delete them from
outlook express, they will still be readable on my pc from the cd ?


OE will not be able to read them. You will have to reincorporate them into
OE. You can use the method in the last paragraph on this page:
www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx or see other methods:
www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4

OE is nearly the only program that reads the message store, so you have to
reincorporate the dbx files into OE.

Question #2
Being i am able to read them from the cd on my system in the cd rom by
opening the the folder from C:/Windows/Application Data, which is how it
was
burned, why do they read there if the mbx dbx idx extensions are there?
Is
it because it is the whole outlook express is backed up on the cd and ny
pc
then recognizes it?


The files are on the CD because you backed them up on the CD. OE will not
read them from the CD though.

Question #3
Being i am going to be getting a new system soon, what di i have to do to
make these readable on a new system?



See the links above the links referenced in them.

steve




thanks in advance.

"Michael Santovec" wrote:

What file extension is showing on the CD? DBX, MBX or EML?

EML files are directly readable from CD if the PC has Outlook Express
installed AND the
EML file association is properly configured.

In the case of DBX files, OE cannot directly access them from CD.
However, if you have
installed a program such as DBXtract that can read DBX files (and
convert them to EML),
you could read them that way. But another PC without such a program
wouldn't know what to
do with the DBX files.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"shortstop643" wrote in message
...
Thanks

When I open the cd on my system from the application data folder, in
the cd
rom, why does it show all the existing emails on the cd just as they
are in
my outlook express? If those are the same emails, can I delete them
from
ny outlook express and they will still be on the cd as i have it
burned? I
get the impression these are not readable ?
They show the same identical # of files as well

I just want to delete the existing email from outlook express, and i
don't
understand why it's showing on my computer, and not on some one else's
except
for the right file extension. Do you understand what i want to do?
thanks

"Michael Santovec" wrote:

The only way to read those files is to either restore them to a
working Outlook Express
(you could use an identity just for that) or convert them to EML
files and then read
those.

The MBX/IDX files are from OE version 4 and might no longer be of any
value to you.
They
were presumably imported to OE 5 or later when the upgrade was done.
For converting
MBX
files to EML files, see:
OUTDUMP.EXE -
http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_san...es/outdump.zip
MBXtract - http://www.oehelp.com/MBXtract/Default.aspx

For converting DBX files to EML files, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXtract/Default.aspx

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"shortstop643" wrote in message
...

Hi
I thought you could burn the Application Data folder or Microsoft
folder or
Outlook Express folder from C:/Windows to a cd and have all your
messages
saved that way? I have them on a cd, and i can read them on my cd
rom, but
on my daughters Dell with xp, i can not open the files, it looks
for a file
association.
It said to connect to web, but her isp is real slow, and I could
not read
the files.
I only want these for saving on cd, not to restore, before i delete
them
from my system i want to be sure i can read them on another system
in a cd
rom. I know how to do the eml files, and copy and paste to text or
save as
text, i am asking if copying the Aplication Data folder will save
on cd for
another system to read only-" not resrore"? These are mbx, idx and
dbx
extensions, in Outlook Express 6.0
thanks

Those trying to help this guy deserve a medal.
--
~PAB

~PAB
THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT, VERY WISE PERSON!

"PA Bear" wrote:

Those trying to help this guy deserve a medal.
--
~PAB

"shortstop643" wrote in message
...
OK

What file association do i need to have if i can change that to read the
cd
as it is backed up?

You cannot read the files on the cd without reincorporating them into OE.
To reincorporate them into OE see www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4 and the last
paragraph he www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx.

#2 If that doesn't work how do i convert the mbx or dbx
to eml,?

MBXtract. www.oehelp.com/MBXtract/

#3 How do you know another system has or has not a DBX association
?

Nothing except OE can read dbx files and display them. And it can only read
them if they are part of the message store.

I understand where we are now, now what do we do to read it? #4 iI think
the right question is , how do i do DBXtract?


DBXtract comes with directions. You can basically browse to the directory
holding the dbx files and then select the file from which you wish to
extract and set the output directory and then click on the extract button.
Then you can drag the eml files back into OE.

My newest program, OEX (www.oehelp.com/OEX/) will allow one to just point to
a dbx file and it will automatically import it into OE's message store. So
you could use that to pull the messages off the CD into OE's message store.

steve



LARRY THE CABLE GUY" GIT R DUN" "HUMOR"
THANKS

"Michael Santovec" wrote:

I think I know what's happening.

You've set up a file association for DBX files to Outlook Express
(MSIMN.EXE), which is of
not use. With the exception of a few startup parameters for EML or NWS
files, if you
start OE that way, it ignores the file and starts as if you just started
OE from a desk
top icon or other means. So it's not read the CD at all. The CD was
just used to trigger
the starting of OE.

If you took the CD to another PC and it didn't have the DBX file
association, you would
get the message that the file has no association. If they did have the
DBX association,
it would open that PC's Outlook Express data.

So back to square one.

Doing the backup as you did, you need to either restore the data to
Outlook Express to
view it or use a program such as DBXtract to convert the DBX files on CD
to EML files to
read them.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"shortstop643" wrote in message
...
Thanks for asking!
Here's my situation: #1. I used Roxio ecdc , data, and burnt the C:
Windows/Application Data folder to cd. #2 When i view the cd from my
cd rom,
I find the Application Data Folder, and that contains Microsoft,
Outlook
Express and others,#3. When I open the Mail folder",D:\ " I have the
cd in
now,D:\Outlook Express;D:\Outlook Express\Mail when i click on Inbox,
Outlook
Express opens.,sent items or deleted all open in outllook express #4
there
are mbx , idx and there is a folders .nch #5. the only ones that open
are
the mbx and those open as outlook express. #6. I deleted a couple of
the
files and identified them, when i put the cd back in , those files
were gone
from outllook express. #7, Apparently this procedure that I was
informed of
does not retain the files? #8, The computer must be "avoiding the cd
and
reading from outlook express? Being I am ignorant here, I am just
trying to
get an answer why? #9. When i open the .eml files in folders i have
they
open up individually, and not as outlook express,just as an .eml file.
Sorry, just trying to understand why a cd opens up an entire program
when it
is on cd and does not retain the complete files if you delete them?
it show
the pop3 uidl.dat also: D:\Outlook Express, this shows the mail and
news
folders, there are 14 items here dbx, has a clean up log, sent, in
deleted,
offline, etc,;D:\Outlook Express\Mail, this has idx and dbx, the mbx
have
outlook express symbol on them, the idx have the blue explorer e on
them.
Best i can do without sending you the cd.
thanks

"Michael Santovec" wrote:

I'm not clear what you are seeing on the CD.

Describe step-by-step how you are viewing the CD and what you see.

For example, you are using the Windows File Explorer and seeing the
DBX files on the
CD?

If so, how to you see the individual messages? Do you double click a
DBX file? If so,
what does the Window title say?

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"shortstop643" wrote in message
...
cd Thanks
Can you tell me why i can read the files now when i open up the cd
from,
C:ApplicationData/Folder,,, the sub folder Microsoft, then Outlook
Express,
all the messages are displayed.? "I am not opening Outllook
Express from the
Desktop.

This question keeps getting walked around. Is that the same as
opening it
from the Desktop/Programs/OutlookExpress, even though I am using
the cd in
the cd rom? If you can clear this up,for me?
Thanks

"Steve Cochran" wrote:


"shortstop643" wrote in
message
...
Thanks
Question # 1;
Being i can read them on my pc from the cd rom, if i delete them
from
outlook express, they will still be readable on my pc from the
cd ?


OE will not be able to read them. You will have to reincorporate
them into
OE. You can use the method in the last paragraph on this page:
www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx or see other methods:
www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4

OE is nearly the only program that reads the message store, so you
have to
reincorporate the dbx files into OE.

Question #2
Being i am able to read them from the cd on my system in the
cd rom by
opening the the folder from C:/Windows/Application Data, which
is how it
was
burned, why do they read there if the mbx dbx idx extensions are
there?
Is
it because it is the whole outlook express is backed up on the
cd and ny
pc
then recognizes it?


The files are on the CD because you backed them up on the CD. OE
will not
read them from the CD though.

Question #3
Being i am going to be getting a new system soon, what di i have
to do to
make these readable on a new system?



See the links above the links referenced in them.

steve




thanks in advance.

"Michael Santovec" wrote:

What file extension is showing on the CD? DBX, MBX or EML?

EML files are directly readable from CD if the PC has Outlook
Express
installed AND the
EML file association is properly configured.

In the case of DBX files, OE cannot directly access them from
CD.
However, if you have
installed a program such as DBXtract that can read DBX files
(and
convert them to EML),
you could read them that way. But another PC without such a
program
wouldn't know what to
do with the DBX files.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"shortstop643" wrote in
message
...
Thanks

When I open the cd on my system from the application data
folder, in
the cd
rom, why does it show all the existing emails on the cd just
as they
are in
my outlook express? If those are the same emails, can I
delete them
from
ny outlook express and they will still be on the cd as i
have it
burned? I
get the impression these are not readable ?
They show the same identical # of files as well

I just want to delete the existing email from outlook
express, and i
don't
understand why it's showing on my computer, and not on some
one else's
except
for the right file extension. Do you understand what i want
to do?
thanks

"Michael Santovec" wrote:

The only way to read those files is to either restore them
to a
working Outlook Express
(you could use an identity just for that) or convert them
to EML
files and then read
those.

The MBX/IDX files are from OE version 4 and might no longer
be of any
value to you.
They
were presumably imported to OE 5 or later when the upgrade
was done.
For converting
MBX
files to EML files, see:
OUTDUMP.EXE -
http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_san...es/outdump.zip
MBXtract - http://www.oehelp.com/MBXtract/Default.aspx

For converting DBX files to EML files, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXtract/Default.aspx

--

Mike -
http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"shortstop643" wrote
in message
...

Hi
I thought you could burn the Application Data folder or
Microsoft
folder or
Outlook Express folder from C:/Windows to a cd and have
all your
messages
saved that way? I have them on a cd, and i can read
them on my cd
rom, but
on my daughters Dell with xp, i can not open the files,
it looks
for a file
association.
It said to connect to web, but her isp is real slow, and
I could
not read
the files.
I only want these for saving on cd, not to restore,
before i delete
them
from my system i want to be sure i can read them on
another system
in a cd
rom. I know how to do the eml files, and copy and paste
to text or
save as
text, i am asking if copying the Aplication Data folder
will save
on cd for
another system to read only-" not resrore"? These are
mbx, idx and
dbx
extensions, in Outlook Express 6.0
thanks