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Old May 31st, 2006, 06:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.installation
Charles Kenyon
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Default Installing Outlook 2007 in different partition / OS / User erased rules?

Not theory. Observation. I simply reported what happened and what the
sequence was. I am not saying anything about causation. Like many people, I
tend to infer causation from this, but it may be coincidence. Anyway. I'm
done talking about it.

--
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"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
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So your theory is that installing Office 2007 on a different partition
that never touched Outlook 2003's PST file, eliminated the rules from that
file? Not sure I see the connection here.
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[MVP-Outlook]
"Charles Kenyon" wrote in message
...
No. Different pst file. Different logical disk drives. Different
operating system. Different user. The only link is sequential.

User 1 - Rules in place. Outlook 2003 works fine.
Shut down computer. Restart computer in Windows XP Home edition.
Log in as User 2. Double check to make sure user 2 is using different pst
file on different disk drive.
Quit Outlook 2003 in User 2.
Download and Install Office 2007 in User 2.
Installation requires restart.
Restart in Windows XP Pro 64-bit.
Log in as User 1.
Start Outlook 2003.
Send/Receive.
No rules in effect. No rules show in Rules dialog.

Weird.
--
Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome!

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"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
Do you mean that you were using the same PST file in Outlook 2003 that
you were using in Outlook 2007?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Charles Kenyon" wrote in message
...
Never mind, I figured out how to import the old rules back into Outlook
2003.

I lost the rules by installing Outlook 2007. Or it may simply be
coincidence. Anyway, after installing Office 2007 in Windows XP Home
version, I restarted the computer in Windows XP 64 (different logical
disk) and opened Outlook 2003. I did a send-receive and everything was
going into my Inbox instead of the other folders. I checked and all the
rules were gone. Nothing else was gone, recent Journal entries,
recently sent emails, changes to the calendar - all there.

--
Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome!

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"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
You'll need to clarify exactly how you "lost the rules." I've already
told you that in Outlook 2003, rules are stored with and migrate with
the PST file.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Charles Kenyon" wrote in message
...
I lost the rules from a separate installation of Outlook 2003 when I
installed Office 2007. Office 2007 was installed for a different user
on a different partition under a different operating system.
Completely separate Outlook.pst files on different drives and
partitions.

I want to get my rules back in my working Outlook 2003 installation.
I don't know how to do this. I do have an existing rwz file from a
couple of months ago as well as backup Outlook pst files.

I installed Office 2007 in what I thought was a completely separate
environment so I could look at it. I don't want to use the beta to do
work.
--
Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome!

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"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
There is probably still a question in here. If so, I'm having
trouble understanding it, especially when I try to reconcile to your
first post, from which I shall quote: "I don't really care whether I
can import the rules into Outlook 2007 at this point."
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Charles Kenyon" wrote in message
...
Yes. In both instances Outlook.pst.

I have rwz files, just don't know how to import (Outlook 2003, not
Outlook 2007)
--
Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version
of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome!

My criminal defense site: http://addbalance.com
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"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
You didn't say. Are we to assume you are using a PST file?
In recent all Outlook versions, rules are stored with the PST
file. I've noticed in beta 2, however, that for the first time
they do not migrate with the PST. You must export/import to an RWZ
file.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Charles Kenyon" wrote in message
...
Outlook 2003

I just downloaded the Beta 2 of Office 2007 Pro. I installed it
on a different partition running a different OS for a different
user. My rules in Outlook 2003 in my regular user disappeared!

Regular user:
Outlook 2003
Windows XP Pro 64 bit OS
Partition1, program installed in Program Files (x86)
Datafile in userprofile on Partition1

Experimental user
Outlook 2007
Windows XP Home Edition
Partition 2, program installed in Program Files (different
logical hard drive)
Datafile in userprofile on Partition 2

Huh?
I suppose it could just be coincidence, but the only thing I did
was first make sure that the Outlook 2003 which had been
installed for Experimental user had a different data file and
then install the beta while running as that user under the
different OS.

Where are rules stored? I know I have a backup of most of them
but I don't know how to reinstall from the backup and don't look
forward to reinventing them.

The Office 2007 installation is just to look at, I hadn't planned
on actually letting it have access to any of my email accounts. I
don't really care whether I can import the rules into Outlook
2007 at this point.

Any ideas?
--
Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version
of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide)
http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is
awesome!

My criminal defense site: http://addbalance.com
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  #12  
Old May 31st, 2006, 06:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.installation
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
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Default Installing Outlook 2007 in different partition / OS / User erased rules?

OK, fine. I suspect there was more to it than just installing Office 2007 on
a separate partition, but I have no need to troubleshoot it if you don't.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Charles Kenyon" wrote in message
...
Not theory. Observation. I simply reported what happened and what the
sequence was. I am not saying anything about causation. Like many people,
I tend to infer causation from this, but it may be coincidence. Anyway.
I'm done talking about it.

--
Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome!

My criminal defense site: http://addbalance.com
--------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies
and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
from my ignorance and your wisdom.


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
So your theory is that installing Office 2007 on a different partition
that never touched Outlook 2003's PST file, eliminated the rules from
that file? Not sure I see the connection here.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Charles Kenyon" wrote in message
...
No. Different pst file. Different logical disk drives. Different
operating system. Different user. The only link is sequential.

User 1 - Rules in place. Outlook 2003 works fine.
Shut down computer. Restart computer in Windows XP Home edition.
Log in as User 2. Double check to make sure user 2 is using different
pst file on different disk drive.
Quit Outlook 2003 in User 2.
Download and Install Office 2007 in User 2.
Installation requires restart.
Restart in Windows XP Pro 64-bit.
Log in as User 1.
Start Outlook 2003.
Send/Receive.
No rules in effect. No rules show in Rules dialog.

Weird.
--
Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome!

My criminal defense site: http://addbalance.com
--------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies
and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
from my ignorance and your wisdom.



"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
Do you mean that you were using the same PST file in Outlook 2003 that
you were using in Outlook 2007?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Charles Kenyon" wrote in message
...
Never mind, I figured out how to import the old rules back into
Outlook 2003.

I lost the rules by installing Outlook 2007. Or it may simply be
coincidence. Anyway, after installing Office 2007 in Windows XP Home
version, I restarted the computer in Windows XP 64 (different logical
disk) and opened Outlook 2003. I did a send-receive and everything was
going into my Inbox instead of the other folders. I checked and all
the rules were gone. Nothing else was gone, recent Journal entries,
recently sent emails, changes to the calendar - all there.

--
Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome!

My criminal defense site: http://addbalance.com
--------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies
and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
from my ignorance and your wisdom.


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
You'll need to clarify exactly how you "lost the rules." I've already
told you that in Outlook 2003, rules are stored with and migrate with
the PST file.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Charles Kenyon" wrote in message
...
I lost the rules from a separate installation of Outlook 2003 when I
installed Office 2007. Office 2007 was installed for a different user
on a different partition under a different operating system.
Completely separate Outlook.pst files on different drives and
partitions.

I want to get my rules back in my working Outlook 2003 installation.
I don't know how to do this. I do have an existing rwz file from a
couple of months ago as well as backup Outlook pst files.

I installed Office 2007 in what I thought was a completely separate
environment so I could look at it. I don't want to use the beta to
do work.
--
Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome!

My criminal defense site: http://addbalance.com
--------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies
and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
from my ignorance and your wisdom.


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
There is probably still a question in here. If so, I'm having
trouble understanding it, especially when I try to reconcile to
your first post, from which I shall quote: "I don't really care
whether I can import the rules into Outlook 2007 at this point."
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Charles Kenyon" wrote in message
...
Yes. In both instances Outlook.pst.

I have rwz files, just don't know how to import (Outlook 2003, not
Outlook 2007)
--
Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version
of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide)
http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome!

My criminal defense site: http://addbalance.com
--------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies
and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
from my ignorance and your wisdom.


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in
message ...
You didn't say. Are we to assume you are using a PST file?
In recent all Outlook versions, rules are stored with the PST
file. I've noticed in beta 2, however, that for the first time
they do not migrate with the PST. You must export/import to an
RWZ file.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Charles Kenyon" wrote in message
...
Outlook 2003

I just downloaded the Beta 2 of Office 2007 Pro. I installed it
on a different partition running a different OS for a different
user. My rules in Outlook 2003 in my regular user disappeared!

Regular user:
Outlook 2003
Windows XP Pro 64 bit OS
Partition1, program installed in Program Files (x86)
Datafile in userprofile on Partition1

Experimental user
Outlook 2007
Windows XP Home Edition
Partition 2, program installed in Program Files (different
logical hard drive)
Datafile in userprofile on Partition 2

Huh?
I suppose it could just be coincidence, but the only thing I did
was first make sure that the Outlook 2003 which had been
installed for Experimental user had a different data file and
then install the beta while running as that user under the
different OS.

Where are rules stored? I know I have a backup of most of them
but I don't know how to reinstall from the backup and don't look
forward to reinventing them.

The Office 2007 installation is just to look at, I hadn't
planned on actually letting it have access to any of my email
accounts. I don't really care whether I can import the rules
into Outlook 2007 at this point.

Any ideas?
--
Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented
version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide)
http://addbalance.com/usersguide

See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is
awesome!

My criminal defense site: http://addbalance.com
--------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies
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