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Networked Office
I think you have the option upon installing if you want to install Office to
a server, but I am thinking if you have 10 users it is going to slow down your server badly. Is there a particular reason you dont want to install on the workstations? You can setup admin install of office to install just like Outlook installs on SBS client upon connection. "Sarah Tanembaum" wrote in message ... Is it possible to run office from a server? We just purchased 10 brand new PC with Windows XP Pro Pre-installed, an a server with ample of memory and disk space. We also purchase a 15-user license of Microsoft Office 2003 Professional. Instead of installing MS Office 2003 on all the workstation, is there a way to run Office from a server? I know of the terminal services/citrix way but that is out of the question as it will add cost per client. Thanks |
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No, you can either run Office from a TS/Citrix environment or you can
install it locally. You can create an admin installation point on the server and have the clients load office via a logon script when they first start Windows. But you cannot run it from a plain server. -- Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without reading. After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Sarah Tanembaum asked: | Is it possible to run office from a server? | | We just purchased 10 brand new PC with Windows XP Pro Pre-installed, | an a server with ample of memory and disk space. | | We also purchase a 15-user license of Microsoft Office 2003 | Professional. | | Instead of installing MS Office 2003 on all the workstation, is there | a way to run Office from a server? | | I know of the terminal services/citrix way but that is out of the | question as it will add cost per client. | | Thanks |
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Is it possible to run office from a server?
We just purchased 10 brand new PC with Windows XP Pro Pre-installed, an a server with ample of memory and disk space. We also purchase a 15-user license of Microsoft Office 2003 Professional. Instead of installing MS Office 2003 on all the workstation, is there a way to run Office from a server? I know of the terminal services/citrix way but that is out of the question as it will add cost per client. Thanks |
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I'm trying to use my server as a file server, where I will store all the
Office executable. If MS so willing, then they can tell us what registry setting on the local machine has to change so each of my workstation can run office apps, e.g. MS Word, Excel, and other, right from their workstation? Is it a technology issues that prevent this to happen? What's the big problem since other OSes can handle multi-user apps? Imagine if I can do that, everytime the workstation crashed and corrupted the disk, all I have to do is install the os, mount the directory where office reside, and voile ... it's back up again. Also, when the office need upgrade, all I have to do is to upgrade the one on the server and again, those 10(or for that matter 100K)workstation has their office upgraded! Any ideas? "Chris Jones" wrote in message ... I think you have the option upon installing if you want to install Office to a server, but I am thinking if you have 10 users it is going to slow down your server badly. Is there a particular reason you dont want to install on the workstations? You can setup admin install of office to install just like Outlook installs on SBS client upon connection. "Sarah Tanembaum" wrote in message ... Is it possible to run office from a server? We just purchased 10 brand new PC with Windows XP Pro Pre-installed, an a server with ample of memory and disk space. We also purchase a 15-user license of Microsoft Office 2003 Professional. Instead of installing MS Office 2003 on all the workstation, is there a way to run Office from a server? I know of the terminal services/citrix way but that is out of the question as it will add cost per client. Thanks |
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Why not possible?
Thanks. "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote in message ... No, you can either run Office from a TS/Citrix environment or you can install it locally. You can create an admin installation point on the server and have the clients load office via a logon script when they first start Windows. But you cannot run it from a plain server. -- Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without reading. After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Sarah Tanembaum asked: | Is it possible to run office from a server? | | We just purchased 10 brand new PC with Windows XP Pro Pre-installed, | an a server with ample of memory and disk space. | | We also purchase a 15-user license of Microsoft Office 2003 | Professional. | | Instead of installing MS Office 2003 on all the workstation, is there | a way to run Office from a server? | | I know of the terminal services/citrix way but that is out of the | question as it will add cost per client. | | Thanks |
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Sarah, what you have described is called 'Windows Terminal Server'. You are
right about the fact that by installing Office on one system, and letting everyone access it reduces administrative issues. But, SBS2003 does not allow you to configure Terminal Server on the SBS server itself. You can add a separate system to act as a terminal server alongside your SBS server. The temrinal server would house your Office apps, and your SBS server would handle Exchange/email, Internet access, and file/print services. -- Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP] "The days pass by so quickly now, the nights are seldom long" "Sarah Tanembaum" wrote in message ... I'm trying to use my server as a file server, where I will store all the Office executable. If MS so willing, then they can tell us what registry setting on the local machine has to change so each of my workstation can run office apps, e.g. MS Word, Excel, and other, right from their workstation? Is it a technology issues that prevent this to happen? What's the big problem since other OSes can handle multi-user apps? Imagine if I can do that, everytime the workstation crashed and corrupted the disk, all I have to do is install the os, mount the directory where office reside, and voile ... it's back up again. Also, when the office need upgrade, all I have to do is to upgrade the one on the server and again, those 10(or for that matter 100K)workstation has their office upgraded! Any ideas? "Chris Jones" wrote in message ... I think you have the option upon installing if you want to install Office to a server, but I am thinking if you have 10 users it is going to slow down your server badly. Is there a particular reason you dont want to install on the workstations? You can setup admin install of office to install just like Outlook installs on SBS client upon connection. "Sarah Tanembaum" wrote in message ... Is it possible to run office from a server? We just purchased 10 brand new PC with Windows XP Pro Pre-installed, an a server with ample of memory and disk space. We also purchase a 15-user license of Microsoft Office 2003 Professional. Instead of installing MS Office 2003 on all the workstation, is there a way to run Office from a server? I know of the terminal services/citrix way but that is out of the question as it will add cost per client. Thanks |
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"KevinK" wrote in message
... Technically it can be installed and run from the server, and would save the problem of updating all 10 PCs. How? Does MS supply a setup script for workstation to run office from network-mounted-disk? But as Chris mentioned, it would use huge amounts of the network. This is not an issues for us. We have ample bandwidth to spare. You can copy the CDs to the server and install to each workstation from there. This does not make any sense. Why can I just use them from network disk(attached to each workstation), and execute the apps from there? This is time consuming and it just plain old technology. The only thing I can think of is if MS is collaborating with: 1. Disk vendors -- so we need to buy a lots of disk space to store the same executable programs 2. Consultant -- more billable time(yeah.) But seriously, why don't they(MS) make our lives(SysAdmin) a bit easier? Once installed, don't forget "Office Update" as opposed to "Windows Update" -----Original Message----- Is it possible to run office from a server? We just purchased 10 brand new PC with Windows XP Pro Pre-installed, an a server with ample of memory and disk space. We also purchase a 15-user license of Microsoft Office 2003 Professional. Instead of installing MS Office 2003 on all the workstation, is there a way to run Office from a server? I know of the terminal services/citrix way but that is out of the question as it will add cost per client. Thanks . |
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Thanks Kevin. Unfortunately the terminal services are out of the question.
We have pretty powerful workstation and server, why would I use my workstation as a terminal(Isn't this goes again MS ideology)? Secondly, why would I pay an additional license for each workstation to access the terminal server. It is just not economical. Or perhaps Microsoft is still ironing-out on how to implement this this type of technology(networked-multi-user-multi-task-apps)? Thanks "Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]" wrote in message ... Sarah, what you have described is called 'Windows Terminal Server'. You are right about the fact that by installing Office on one system, and letting everyone access it reduces administrative issues. But, SBS2003 does not allow you to configure Terminal Server on the SBS server itself. You can add a separate system to act as a terminal server alongside your SBS server. The temrinal server would house your Office apps, and your SBS server would handle Exchange/email, Internet access, and file/print services. -- Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP] "The days pass by so quickly now, the nights are seldom long" "Sarah Tanembaum" wrote in message ... I'm trying to use my server as a file server, where I will store all the Office executable. If MS so willing, then they can tell us what registry setting on the local machine has to change so each of my workstation can run office apps, e.g. MS Word, Excel, and other, right from their workstation? Is it a technology issues that prevent this to happen? What's the big problem since other OSes can handle multi-user apps? Imagine if I can do that, everytime the workstation crashed and corrupted the disk, all I have to do is install the os, mount the directory where office reside, and voile ... it's back up again. Also, when the office need upgrade, all I have to do is to upgrade the one on the server and again, those 10(or for that matter 100K)workstation has their office upgraded! Any ideas? "Chris Jones" wrote in message ... I think you have the option upon installing if you want to install Office to a server, but I am thinking if you have 10 users it is going to slow down your server badly. Is there a particular reason you dont want to install on the workstations? You can setup admin install of office to install just like Outlook installs on SBS client upon connection. "Sarah Tanembaum" wrote in message ... Is it possible to run office from a server? We just purchased 10 brand new PC with Windows XP Pro Pre-installed, an a server with ample of memory and disk space. We also purchase a 15-user license of Microsoft Office 2003 Professional. Instead of installing MS Office 2003 on all the workstation, is there a way to run Office from a server? I know of the terminal services/citrix way but that is out of the question as it will add cost per client. Thanks |
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Sarah,
There's different solutions available to fit different needs. By your post it appears that you bought your solution before determining your needs. If your need and desire is to administer a single installation of Office for all of your users, then Terminal Services is a valid solution. Is this against MS idealogy? Not in my mind, since there are many, many companies, both large and small, that have installed Terminal Services as a solution. As with all needs/solutions, you weight the benefits, the pros and cons, and make the best choice possible. You say it's not economical. But compared to what? It appears that you consider the time and cost of administrative overhead in maintaining, upgrading, and patching standard PC's with individual copies of Windows and Office installed on each PC to be a high priority issue. So, if you can reduce the overhead and hassle of administering such a network, then you've answered your own question: yes, it's economical. Don't know what you mean by claiming that Microsoft is still ironing out how to implement such a solution. I previously managed the IT dept for a large health care facility that has over 200 users operating on Microsoft Windows Terminal Server. You want to talk about economical? You want to talk about redundancy? You want to talk about ease of administering such network? You want to talk about implementing new security policies? No, a TS environment is not for all ... but don't just knock it ... it is a valid solution for those with the need of such a solution. -- Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP] "The days pass by so quickly now, the nights are seldom long" "Sarah Tanembaum" wrote in message ... Thanks Kevin. Unfortunately the terminal services are out of the question. We have pretty powerful workstation and server, why would I use my workstation as a terminal(Isn't this goes again MS ideology)? Secondly, why would I pay an additional license for each workstation to access the terminal server. It is just not economical. Or perhaps Microsoft is still ironing-out on how to implement this this type of technology(networked-multi-user-multi-task-apps)? Thanks "Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]" wrote in message ... Sarah, what you have described is called 'Windows Terminal Server'. You are right about the fact that by installing Office on one system, and letting everyone access it reduces administrative issues. But, SBS2003 does not allow you to configure Terminal Server on the SBS server itself. You can add a separate system to act as a terminal server alongside your SBS server. The temrinal server would house your Office apps, and your SBS server would handle Exchange/email, Internet access, and file/print services. -- Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP] "The days pass by so quickly now, the nights are seldom long" "Sarah Tanembaum" wrote in message ... I'm trying to use my server as a file server, where I will store all the Office executable. If MS so willing, then they can tell us what registry setting on the local machine has to change so each of my workstation can run office apps, e.g. MS Word, Excel, and other, right from their workstation? Is it a technology issues that prevent this to happen? What's the big problem since other OSes can handle multi-user apps? Imagine if I can do that, everytime the workstation crashed and corrupted the disk, all I have to do is install the os, mount the directory where office reside, and voile ... it's back up again. Also, when the office need upgrade, all I have to do is to upgrade the one on the server and again, those 10(or for that matter 100K)workstation has their office upgraded! Any ideas? "Chris Jones" wrote in message ... I think you have the option upon installing if you want to install Office to a server, but I am thinking if you have 10 users it is going to slow down your server badly. Is there a particular reason you dont want to install on the workstations? You can setup admin install of office to install just like Outlook installs on SBS client upon connection. "Sarah Tanembaum" wrote in message ... Is it possible to run office from a server? We just purchased 10 brand new PC with Windows XP Pro Pre-installed, an a server with ample of memory and disk space. We also purchase a 15-user license of Microsoft Office 2003 Professional. Instead of installing MS Office 2003 on all the workstation, is there a way to run Office from a server? I know of the terminal services/citrix way but that is out of the question as it will add cost per client. Thanks |
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Hi Sarah
You can run the executables from the server if you wish but a certain number of DLLs will have to be on the WS. You don't want to do this though because your Office programs will run as slow as mollasses because the executables will have to be loaded across the 100 mb network lines instead of from a much faster HD unless you are using Terminal services where only the video is transmitted across the Network and even that is slower than running local. The only time you would want to run from server is if you had extremely small Hard Disks which make no sense with the price of HDs these days. Frank McCallister COMPUMAC "Sarah Tanembaum" wrote in message ... Thanks Kevin. Unfortunately the terminal services are out of the question. We have pretty powerful workstation and server, why would I use my workstation as a terminal(Isn't this goes again MS ideology)? Secondly, why would I pay an additional license for each workstation to access the terminal server. It is just not economical. Or perhaps Microsoft is still ironing-out on how to implement this this type of technology(networked-multi-user-multi-task-apps)? Thanks "Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]" wrote in message ... Sarah, what you have described is called 'Windows Terminal Server'. You are right about the fact that by installing Office on one system, and letting everyone access it reduces administrative issues. But, SBS2003 does not allow you to configure Terminal Server on the SBS server itself. You can add a separate system to act as a terminal server alongside your SBS server. The temrinal server would house your Office apps, and your SBS server would handle Exchange/email, Internet access, and file/print services. -- Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP] "The days pass by so quickly now, the nights are seldom long" "Sarah Tanembaum" wrote in message ... I'm trying to use my server as a file server, where I will store all the Office executable. If MS so willing, then they can tell us what registry setting on the local machine has to change so each of my workstation can run office apps, e.g. MS Word, Excel, and other, right from their workstation? Is it a technology issues that prevent this to happen? What's the big problem since other OSes can handle multi-user apps? Imagine if I can do that, everytime the workstation crashed and corrupted the disk, all I have to do is install the os, mount the directory where office reside, and voile ... it's back up again. Also, when the office need upgrade, all I have to do is to upgrade the one on the server and again, those 10(or for that matter 100K)workstation has their office upgraded! Any ideas? "Chris Jones" wrote in message ... I think you have the option upon installing if you want to install Office to a server, but I am thinking if you have 10 users it is going to slow down your server badly. Is there a particular reason you dont want to install on the workstations? You can setup admin install of office to install just like Outlook installs on SBS client upon connection. "Sarah Tanembaum" wrote in message ... Is it possible to run office from a server? We just purchased 10 brand new PC with Windows XP Pro Pre-installed, an a server with ample of memory and disk space. We also purchase a 15-user license of Microsoft Office 2003 Professional. Instead of installing MS Office 2003 on all the workstation, is there a way to run Office from a server? I know of the terminal services/citrix way but that is out of the question as it will add cost per client. Thanks |
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