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Custom shapes with special behaviour
Hi,
I use Visio 2003 and 2007. I want to know if it is possible to create a custom shape from two rectangles (for example) grouped together and have only one rectangle be resized when the custom shape is resized? I do not want the user to have to ungroup the components to do the job. Thanks for any help. -- Jac Tremblay |
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"Jac Tremblay" wrote in message
... Hi, I use Visio 2003 and 2007. I want to know if it is possible to create a custom shape from two rectangles (for example) grouped together and have only one rectangle be resized when the custom shape is resized? I do not want the user to have to ungroup the components to do the job. Thanks for any help. -- Jac Tremblay This can be done as a single shape or if you need two seperate rectangles grouped together. If two grouped together, then the first rectangle can be based on the W&H of the group while the second rectangle can be fixed or something relative to the group shape. So can you provide more details of what you would like? John... Visio MVP |
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Hello Jac,
Checkout this blog post: http://blogs.msdn.com/visio/archive/...esizemode.aspx Best regards John John Goldsmith (Visio MVP) www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "Jac Tremblay" wrote in message ... Hi, I use Visio 2003 and 2007. I want to know if it is possible to create a custom shape from two rectangles (for example) grouped together and have only one rectangle be resized when the custom shape is resized? I do not want the user to have to ungroup the components to do the job. Thanks for any help. -- Jac Tremblay |
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Hi John,
As I can see, there is not much I can do. Actually, I wanted a rectangular shape with a small rectangle at the top left corner. That small one would always be the same size and would stay at the top left corner of the big rectangle no matter how the big one is resized. I guess I will forget about my idea. Thank you for your answer, it is very appreciated. -- Jac Tremblay "John Goldsmith_Visio_MVP" wrote: Hello Jac, Checkout this blog post: http://blogs.msdn.com/visio/archive/...esizemode.aspx Best regards John John Goldsmith (Visio MVP) www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "Jac Tremblay" wrote in message ... Hi, I use Visio 2003 and 2007. I want to know if it is possible to create a custom shape from two rectangles (for example) grouped together and have only one rectangle be resized when the custom shape is resized? I do not want the user to have to ungroup the components to do the job. Thanks for any help. -- Jac Tremblay |
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Hi John,
Are you the same John (Goldsmith)? If yes, sorry for the confusion. If not, please see the answer I posted to the other one. In any case, thanks for your asnwer, John. It is always a pleasure to get MVPs comments. -- Jac Tremblay "John... Visio MVP" wrote: "Jac Tremblay" wrote in message ... Hi, I use Visio 2003 and 2007. I want to know if it is possible to create a custom shape from two rectangles (for example) grouped together and have only one rectangle be resized when the custom shape is resized? I do not want the user to have to ungroup the components to do the job. Thanks for any help. -- Jac Tremblay This can be done as a single shape or if you need two seperate rectangles grouped together. If two grouped together, then the first rectangle can be based on the W&H of the group while the second rectangle can be fixed or something relative to the group shape. So can you provide more details of what you would like? John... Visio MVP |
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I am the old guy (John Marshall - Visio.mvps.org) who has been around since
Visio 1. The other John, John Goldsmith is the latest (and well deserved) addition to the Visio MVP community. John... Visio MVP "Jac Tremblay" wrote in message ... Hi John, Are you the same John (Goldsmith)? If yes, sorry for the confusion. If not, please see the answer I posted to the other one. In any case, thanks for your asnwer, John. It is always a pleasure to get MVPs comments. -- Jac Tremblay "John... Visio MVP" wrote: "Jac Tremblay" wrote in message ... Hi, I use Visio 2003 and 2007. I want to know if it is possible to create a custom shape from two rectangles (for example) grouped together and have only one rectangle be resized when the custom shape is resized? I do not want the user to have to ungroup the components to do the job. Thanks for any help. -- Jac Tremblay This can be done as a single shape or if you need two seperate rectangles grouped together. If two grouped together, then the first rectangle can be based on the W&H of the group while the second rectangle can be fixed or something relative to the group shape. So can you provide more details of what you would like? John... Visio MVP |
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Hello Jac,
That's no problem to implement... 1) Draw your larger rectangle 2) Draw your smaller rectangle and position in the top left hand corner of the previous one 3) With your smaller rectangle selected, click Format / Behavior / Reposition only (on the Behavior tab) 4) Click OK to close the dialog 5) Select both rectangles and click Shape / Grouping / Group This takes care of the resizing issue. Now to make sure the small rectangle stays in the top left corner.... 6) Sub-select the smaller rectangle (first click selects the group shape and second the sub-shape) 7) Click Window / Show ShapeSheet (see this post for more info: http://visualsignals.typepad.co.uk/v...or-starte.html ) 8) In the first section ('Shape Transform') change the following cells: PinX = Sheet.3!Width*0 PinY = Sheet.3!Height*1 LocPinX = Width*0 LocPinY = Height*1 (Note the '3' in 'Sheet.3' above may be a different number for you - it's refering to the group shape) If you're interested in what all those Pin... things are then you might want to have a look at this link: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...ffice.10).aspx Hope that helps Best regards John PS - The other John is older (as an MVP) and wiser one John Goldsmith (Visio MVP) www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "Jac Tremblay" wrote in message ... Hi John, As I can see, there is not much I can do. Actually, I wanted a rectangular shape with a small rectangle at the top left corner. That small one would always be the same size and would stay at the top left corner of the big rectangle no matter how the big one is resized. I guess I will forget about my idea. Thank you for your answer, it is very appreciated. -- Jac Tremblay "John Goldsmith_Visio_MVP" wrote: Hello Jac, Checkout this blog post: http://blogs.msdn.com/visio/archive/...esizemode.aspx Best regards John John Goldsmith (Visio MVP) www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "Jac Tremblay" wrote in message ... Hi, I use Visio 2003 and 2007. I want to know if it is possible to create a custom shape from two rectangles (for example) grouped together and have only one rectangle be resized when the custom shape is resized? I do not want the user to have to ungroup the components to do the job. Thanks for any help. -- Jac Tremblay |
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Hi John Marshall,
I'm glad I noticed the difference. I will check your web reference and come back with some more questions later onn (unless I find the answers by myself). Thank you for your precious time and for helping all those people over the years. -- Jac Tremblay "John... Visio MVP" wrote: I am the old guy (John Marshall - Visio.mvps.org) who has been around since Visio 1. The other John, John Goldsmith is the latest (and well deserved) addition to the Visio MVP community. John... Visio MVP "Jac Tremblay" wrote in message ... Hi John, Are you the same John (Goldsmith)? If yes, sorry for the confusion. If not, please see the answer I posted to the other one. In any case, thanks for your asnwer, John. It is always a pleasure to get MVPs comments. -- Jac Tremblay "John... Visio MVP" wrote: "Jac Tremblay" wrote in message ... Hi, I use Visio 2003 and 2007. I want to know if it is possible to create a custom shape from two rectangles (for example) grouped together and have only one rectangle be resized when the custom shape is resized? I do not want the user to have to ungroup the components to do the job. Thanks for any help. -- Jac Tremblay This can be done as a single shape or if you need two seperate rectangles grouped together. If two grouped together, then the first rectangle can be based on the W&H of the group while the second rectangle can be fixed or something relative to the group shape. So can you provide more details of what you would like? John... Visio MVP |
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Just for the sake of having an optional way to do this, it is possible to do
it without grouping. The steps are basically the same as John indicated, except you don't need to change the re-size mode, and you don't group. Let's say the large rectangle has an ID =1, and small rectangle is ID=2. Select and open small rectangle shape sheet. Set PinX = guard(sheet.1!PinX) Set PinY = guard(sheet.1!PinY). Set LocPinX = width*0 Set LocPinY = height*1 Select and open large reectangle shape sheet Set LocPinX = width*0 Set LocPinY = height*1. This gives the same functionality as the grouping technique bit now either shape is selectable with a single click. HTH Wapperdude "Jac Tremblay" wrote: Hi John, As I can see, there is not much I can do. Actually, I wanted a rectangular shape with a small rectangle at the top left corner. That small one would always be the same size and would stay at the top left corner of the big rectangle no matter how the big one is resized. I guess I will forget about my idea. Thank you for your answer, it is very appreciated. -- Jac Tremblay "John Goldsmith_Visio_MVP" wrote: Hello Jac, Checkout this blog post: http://blogs.msdn.com/visio/archive/...esizemode.aspx Best regards John John Goldsmith (Visio MVP) www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "Jac Tremblay" wrote in message ... Hi, I use Visio 2003 and 2007. I want to know if it is possible to create a custom shape from two rectangles (for example) grouped together and have only one rectangle be resized when the custom shape is resized? I do not want the user to have to ungroup the components to do the job. Thanks for any help. -- Jac Tremblay |
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Hi John,
Sorry for the time I took to answer. I really appreciate your comment and it is very useful. I checked the links you provided and I noticed there are a lot of informations I have to master before I go on with other interrogations. In my solution, I would like to try to avoid VBA, but if it is needed, I will not hesitate to use it. I checked your answer, but there are a few drawbacks. One is that the user can select the big rectangle in the group and resize it without resizing the group which leads to some other problems. A second drawback is that the user cannot enter text in either rectangles. Another one yet is that if I want to create a master form from that group, it does not work properly at all. Of course, I did not have the time to check the creation of master forms. I certainly will in the next few days (I saw the refencences in MSDN). So that is it for now. Thanks again for your time, John. -- Jac Tremblay "John Goldsmith_Visio_MVP" wrote: Hello Jac, That's no problem to implement... 1) Draw your larger rectangle 2) Draw your smaller rectangle and position in the top left hand corner of the previous one 3) With your smaller rectangle selected, click Format / Behavior / Reposition only (on the Behavior tab) 4) Click OK to close the dialog 5) Select both rectangles and click Shape / Grouping / Group This takes care of the resizing issue. Now to make sure the small rectangle stays in the top left corner.... 6) Sub-select the smaller rectangle (first click selects the group shape and second the sub-shape) 7) Click Window / Show ShapeSheet (see this post for more info: http://visualsignals.typepad.co.uk/v...or-starte.html ) 8) In the first section ('Shape Transform') change the following cells: PinX = Sheet.3!Width*0 PinY = Sheet.3!Height*1 LocPinX = Width*0 LocPinY = Height*1 (Note the '3' in 'Sheet.3' above may be a different number for you - it's refering to the group shape) If you're interested in what all those Pin... things are then you might want to have a look at this link: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...ffice.10).aspx Hope that helps Best regards John PS - The other John is older (as an MVP) and wiser one John Goldsmith (Visio MVP) www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "Jac Tremblay" wrote in message ... Hi John, As I can see, there is not much I can do. Actually, I wanted a rectangular shape with a small rectangle at the top left corner. That small one would always be the same size and would stay at the top left corner of the big rectangle no matter how the big one is resized. I guess I will forget about my idea. Thank you for your answer, it is very appreciated. -- Jac Tremblay "John Goldsmith_Visio_MVP" wrote: Hello Jac, Checkout this blog post: http://blogs.msdn.com/visio/archive/...esizemode.aspx Best regards John John Goldsmith (Visio MVP) www.visualSignals.typepad.co.uk www.visualSignals.co.uk "Jac Tremblay" wrote in message ... Hi, I use Visio 2003 and 2007. I want to know if it is possible to create a custom shape from two rectangles (for example) grouped together and have only one rectangle be resized when the custom shape is resized? I do not want the user to have to ungroup the components to do the job. Thanks for any help. -- Jac Tremblay |
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